p*********y
发帖数: 2741 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 CivilSociety 讨论区 】
发信人: playadelrey (A smile is a curve gets things straight), 信区: CivilSociety
标 题: Affirmative action at California colleges: A debate based on fear
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 8 00:18:08 2014, 美东)
Affirmative action at California colleges: A debate based on fear
Asian Americans worry they will lose seats at UC campuses if affirmative
action is reinstated.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0307-ramakrishn
By Karthick Ramakrishnan
March 7, 2014
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发帖数: 2741 | 2 【 以下文字转载自 CivilSociety 讨论区 】
发信人: playadelrey (A smile is a curve gets things straight), 信区: CivilSociety
标 题: Affirmative action at California colleges: A debate based on fear
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 8 00:18:08 2014, 美东)
Affirmative action at California colleges: A debate based on fear
Asian Americans worry they will lose seats at UC campuses if affirmative
action is reinstated.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0307-ramakrishn
By Karthick Ramakrishnan
March 7, 2014
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p*********y
发帖数: 2741 | 3 Affirmative action at California colleges: A debate based on fear
Asian Americans worry they will lose seats at UC campuses if affirmative
action is reinstated.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0307-ramakrishn
By Karthick Ramakrishnan
March 7, 2014
Advertisement
Is the debate on affirmative action versus race-blind policies mainly about
principle, or mostly about preserving narrow group interests? We are
beginning to find out in California. A bill passed by the state Senate and
pe... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1041 | 4 Unequal protection
by From the print edition: Briefing
April 25, 2013
WILLIAM POWERS is the president of the University of Texas at Austin (UT-
Austin). Lino Graglia holds an endowed chair at its law school. Both have
kindly demeanours, impressive records and that crucial perk of academic
success, offices with great views: Mr Powers looks out over the heart of the
university’s campus, Mr Graglia at its football stadium.
They also hold strong and opposing opinions on whether admissions to their
... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9926 | 5 Asian Americans would lose out under affirmative action
Los Angeles Times
By YUNLEI YANG
A Recent Field Poll claimed that most registered voters and Asian Americans
in California support affirmative action. Based on the poll data, Karthick
Ramakrishnan, a professor of public policy and political science at UC
Riverside, indicated that the intense opposition to State Constitutional
Amendment 5 (or SCA-5) earlier this year, an attempt to restore affirmative
action in California's public universiti... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 7299 | 6 Liz Goodwin, Yahoo News October 7, 2013 5:36 AM
Just 10 years after the Supreme Court upheld the University of Michigan’s
use of race in admissions as a necessary step to foster campus diversity,
the justices are set to decide whether that state’s voters are allowed to
ban affirmative action in admissions entirely.
The case, Schuette v. Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, is one of
several controversial cases on the docket in the 2013-14 term, which began
Monday.
The justices are also set to... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 7 这个大胸白牛Gratz 1995年只是因为没录取UM的主校区给安到分校就一直告到最高法院
，导致Michigan公投禁止AA。上次TX那个告AA的Fisher也是白牛。
白男现在越来越萎了，大学新生白牛远多于白男，美帝未来政治就看白牛了。
The woman who killed affirmative action. Twice.
No one was more thrilled with Tuesday’s Supreme Court decision to uphold
Michigan’s affirmative action ban than Jennifer Gratz.
Her name wasn’t on the Schuette v. Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action
case — but it may as well have been. It was Gratz’s rejection from the
University of Michigan in Ann Arbor in 1995 that set the co... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 8 Dr. Hanson轰种族配额Affirmative Action政策：奥巴马的孩子难道比来自旁遮普或柬
埔寨的移民的孩子更需要帮助吗？
Sometime in the first years of the new millennium, “global warming”
evolved into “climate change.” Amid growing controversies over the planet
’s past temperatures, Al Gore and other activists understood that human-
induced “climate change” could explain almost any weather extremity —
droughts or floods, temperatures too hot or too cold, hurricanes and
tornadoes — better than “global warming” could.
Similar verbal gymnastics hav... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 382 | 9 Fisher v. University of Texas今天刚被最高法院接受审理。明年的判决结果将可能
影响全国高校的Affirmative Action。这起案件的推动人，正是5月30日应SVCA
Foundation之邀来湾区讲座的Edward Blum先生。
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-supreme-court-may-be-the-verge-e
The Supreme Court may be on the verge of ending affirmative action
The U.S. Supreme Court announced on Monday that it would take on another
major hot-button issue in its next term: affirmative action.
Here’s what you need to know about the case that could mark the end of race
-based admissions in the ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 34098 | 10 Dear friends,
I am writing to you regarding the serious violation of equal protection,
injustice, and discrimination inflicted by racial preference policies, in
particular affirmative action in college admissions, which almost every
college-bound Asian American student is confronted with today. They need
our help.
America is poised to become a majority-minority nation. In fact, several
states have crossed that line. Based on the current demographic shift shown
in Census data, by 2043 or sooner... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 11 by Jerome Hudson
ExposingLeftists.com arrived on the campus of the University of California,
Merced, last May to gather signatures on a petition calling for a
redistribution of grade-point averages. Not surprisingly, few star students
wanted to share the fruits of their academic labors.
But the logic was liberally sound. Students who worked hard and studied
longer than their peers—in the spirit of fairness—should be willing to
sacrifice their higher GPAs to benefit those whose grades weren’t s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5443 | 13 wiki里面很多呀
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States
UCLA professor Richard H. Sander published an article in the November 2004
issue of the Stanford Law Review that questioned the effectiveness of racial
preferences in law schools. He noted that, prior to his article, there had
been no comprehensive study on the effects of affirmative action.[79] The
article presents a study that shows that half of all black law students rank
near the bottom of their class after the f... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 14 水星报的标题。
California affirmative action challenge is dead
http://www.mercurynews.com/education/ci_25361339/california-aff
A bill that would have let California voters reconsider the state's 16-year-
old ban on race-conscious college admissions is off the table, its author
announced on Monday.
Constitutional Amendment 5 passed the state Senate in late January on a
party-line vote but ran into an unexpected wave of resistance -- mostly,
from Asian-Americans concerned that affirmative action policies... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5 | 15 WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld a Michigan voter
initiative that banned racial preferences in admissions to the state’s
public universities.
“This case is not about how the debate about racial preferences should be
resolved,” Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote in a controlling opinion joined
by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. “It
is about who may resolve it. There is no authority in the Constitution of
the United States or in this court’s precede... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 472 | 16 Affirmative Action: Who Does it Help, Who Does it Hurt?
There's a certain irony in the fact that white students usually bring these
affirmative action lawsuits (and that defenses of affirmative action are
often framed in terms of white privilege). The evidence seems to show that
if completely race-neutral admissions policies were adopted at colleges and
universities, the admissions rates for blacks and hispanic would fall
dramatically . . . but the admissions rates for whites wouldn't change mu... 阅读全帖 |
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c****o
发帖数: 2071 | 17 昨天必将是美国历史上一个黑暗的日子,最高法院裁决支持密歇根禁止用affirmative
action。真的很让人失望。
为什么affirmative action需要维护，没有affirmative action，我们可能没有历史上
第一位黑人总统。将来也可能不会有一位拉丁裔总统。没有affirmative action，美国
人很难偿还当年对黑人的种族歧视。知道吗,黑人是当牲口一样来贩卖。没有
affirmative action，黑人和拉丁裔不会改善社会地位，一直在社会底层，和其他族裔
的差距加大。
不过大家要有信心，当年LGBT也是非法的，现在教皇都认可。affirmative action在美
国被接受只是时间问题。 |
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发帖数: 1041 | 18 The Ecomonist
Apr 27th 2013
ABOVE the entrance to America’s Supreme Court four words are carved: “
Equal justice under law”. The court is pondering whether affirmative action
breaks that promise. The justices recently accepted a case concerning a
vote in Michigan that banned it, and will soon rule on whether the
University of Texas’s race-conscious admissions policies are lawful. The
question in both cases is as simple as it is divisive: should government be
colour-blind?
America is one of many ... 阅读全帖 |
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l**t
发帖数: 10440 | 19 看看左派怎么想的 :-)
http://www.mercurynews.com/education/ci_25617295/californias-af
California's 16-year-old affirmative action ban is lodged more firmly than
ever in state law after the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday shut off further
court challenges in states that have enacted such bans.
By upholding a Michigan law nearly identical to California's, the ruling
left only a legislative -- or ballot initiative -- route for allowing racial
and gender preferences in public college admissions, contracts and ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****l
发帖数: 217 | 20 刚才在买买提首页看到一则新闻里面提及“平权法案”（Affirmative Action），觉得
很奇怪，就到网上查了一下，原来Affirmative Action的中文翻译果然是“平权法案”
！这些年来中文媒体的东西看得少了，连这个都不知道:(
可是这样翻译实在是太颠倒是非了吧。。。中国人莫非已经习惯于混淆视听？还查到美
国旧金山有个华人组织叫做CHINESE FOR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION，中文是“華人權益促進
會”，促进的是谁的权益？
港台那边好像也是主要使用这种错误的翻译；偶尔见到稍好的：“（種族）優惠措施”
，或“矯正性命令”。
俺不懂日文，在google搜索日语网页看到这样的翻译：“積極的優遇[差別撤廃]措置”
或“積極的差別是正措置”，有的词条注解也点明“逆差別”。根据英文对照，上面的
“差别”就是“歧视”的意思；“是正”就是“矫正”。还有一个译法是“肯定的措置
”，不如上两个。
Affirmative有“积极”的含义，Affirmative Action的实质就是为了纠正歧视而优待
，所以翻译成“积极优惠措施”比较妥当。可惜俺人微言轻，以后只好继续被中文媒体 |
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发帖数: 6201 | 21 https://bit.ly/2yNUIjg
肯定性行动（Affirmative Action）的内在缺陷
原创： 戈壁老王 舍路新知 昨天
这篇文章是为了回应”低头弄鱼“同学几天前发表在<美国华人>公众号上的一片文章《
我家孩子也被哈佛拒了，但我仍然捍卫AA》。读完之后我提交了一段留言，但不知何故
始终没有出现在留言区。这给了我一些激励让我在留言的基础上详细扩展成这篇文章作
为回应。真理越辩越明，相信读者们自然有自己的判断。
1什么是肯定性行动（Affirmative Action)
Affirmative Action（以下简称AA）最早的使用是在1961年肯尼迪总统的第10925号总
统令，其内容主要包含两点，第一是要求政府不得以种族，信仰，肤色和起源国为由歧
视雇员和申请人，第二是采取肯定性行动以确保政府雇员和政府工作申请人在过程中不
受到以种族，信仰，肤色和起源国为由的歧视。1965年约翰逊总统发布了取代10925号
总统令的11246号总统令，并重申了上述内容。1967年的第11375号总统令把“性别”也
加入了受保护类别。
AA通常被翻译为平权法案，这实际上是不准确的... 阅读全帖 |
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k*****e
发帖数: 1235 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: longspear (Chang Mao), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 哈佛法学院关于AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的辩论
关键字: affirmative action
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 21 13:11:39 2014, 美东)
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/1054
辩题是：Affirmative Action On Campus Does More Harm Than Good
正方辩手有UCLA法学院的Rich Sander教授，他对AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的负面效果实证
研究很有名，当然也有争议，值得一看。 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: longspear (Chang Mao), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 哈佛法学院关于AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的辩论
关键字: affirmative action
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 21 13:11:39 2014, 美东)
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/1054
辩题是：Affirmative Action On Campus Does More Harm Than Good
正方辩手有UCLA法学院的Rich Sander教授，他对AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的负面效果实证
研究很有名，当然也有争议，值得一看。 |
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发帖数: 38600 | 24 http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/08/obama_the_affirmative_action_president.html
Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as
an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria
akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder,
did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into
thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's
most powerful military, execute the ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4911 | 25 看见thex 随便抄了现在变了味的affirmative action的解释，我只好晒affirmative
action的原意了。
In 1961, President John F. Kennedy became the first to utilize the term "
affirmative action" in its contemporary sense in Executive Order 10925 to
ensure that government contractors "take affirmative action to ensure that
applicants are employed, and employees are treated during employment,
without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin."
肯尼迪的aa明确说的是，招工不考虑族裔。 |
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f*******2
发帖数: 149 | 26 非法移民的诉求，是一种自下而上的诉求，也就是说，这些非法移民自己想要待在美国。
affirmative act,其实一开始并不是自下而上的，因为有些群体自己是真的不爱学习，
不爱学习的群体会care自己能不能上腾校? 他们不见得特别care. affirmative act一
开始，就是因为靠merit-based的system,亚洲人实在是太多了，有些白左看不下去了(
作为佐证，至少我周围的白左都complain过好学校亚洲人的比例太高了,they think it
's a problem,周围的某些华左也认为华人太多了不好，让我说你们什么好),他们拿非
洲和
拉美族裔的人当枪使，躲在他们后面打压亚洲人。凡是鼓
吹什么歧视非洲和拉美族裔的人可以歇歇了，这个affirmative act就是打压亚洲人的
，我们只是反抗被歧视，并没有歧视别的族裔。
反过来，提出affirmative act的人，才是racist,1) 因为他们不喜欢太多的亚洲人，2
) 他们assume非洲和拉美族裔的人无法通过正常的考试渠道去和别人竞争。这才是最大
的歧视，这对于那些真正聪明的，有天分的非洲和拉美族... 阅读全帖 |
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h***n
发帖数: 1600 | 27 请把嘴巴放干净点!
以前招工广告上有Affirmative Action二字吗？Affirmative Action 是Equal
Employment Opportunity吗？要经过很多训练才能工作的行业,而且明显学习这些行业
的人某些种族的人很少, 竟然要求招工要diversify, 要和种族比例靠近，要多傻才会
相信这样的Affirmative Action 是Equal Employment Opportunity, 要多傻才会相信
在需要经过很多培训才能工作的行业Affirmative Action 和Equal Employment
Opportunity是可以同时存在的?!
medical
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j***b
发帖数: 5901 | 28 大家讨论Affirmative action的时候容易进入一个误区，那就是仇视黑人。其实应该针
对的不是黑人，而是白人。
Affirmative action起因是为了照顾黑人。这个有情可原，毕竟历史上黑人受到过很不
公正的待遇。而且黑人民权运动不能不说是造福了各种有色人种的。
就说Affirmative action,本意也不是歧视华人，而是照顾少数民族。但是具体实施起
来就大有猫腻了。比如本来是应该照顾学习上不行的少数民族，而没说限制太优秀的少
数民族。这个立足点是对少数民族的一点照顾不会很冲击最为多数的白人的利益。结果
被当权者给执行成了按种族划分名额。这个显然是针对亚裔的。现实的结果就是AA极大
地伤害了亚裔的利益，而实际上对白人的利益是起保护作用的，因为如果没有AA限制亚
裔，那即使不照顾黑人，白人上大学的机会也不是增加，而是减少。实际上美国反对
Affirmative action的声音也是有些白人以为AA牺牲的是他们。实际上部分州取消AA的
结果是白人上大学非但没变容易，反而难了。如果白人明白这一点那绝对不会反对AA的。
总之AA就是一个本意是想少数民族倾斜的政策，结果被... 阅读全帖 |
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G****e
发帖数: 11198 | 29 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: longspear (Chang Mao), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 哈佛法学院关于AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的辩论
关键字: affirmative action
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 21 13:11:39 2014, 美东)
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/1054
辩题是：Affirmative Action On Campus Does More Harm Than Good
正方辩手有UCLA法学院的Rich Sander教授，他对AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的负面效果实证
研究很有名，当然也有争议，值得一看。 |
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j**t
发帖数: 47 | 31 【 以下文字转载自 Boston 讨论区 】
发信人: leod (臭蛋他爸), 信区: Boston
标 题: 哈佛法学院关于Affirmative Action的辩论
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Apr 12 10:02:55 2014, 美东)
认为Affirmative Action "do more harm than good"的一方胜出。
http://www.npr.org/2014/03/26/293767851/debate-does-affirmative
胜负评判标准是看哪一方能在辩论后sway the most people。辩论前，认为
Affirmative action do more harm（正方）的支持率为22%，反对率为48%，30%未定。
辩论后，正方的支持率为36%（上升14%），反对率为55%（上升7%）。意味着更多的人
为正方说服。 |
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u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 32 "It is an indisputable fact that Asian Americans are hurt most by race-based
affirmative action in college admissions."
这个属于自我定义。穷白人"受害"的，不见得比亚裔少。问问红脖儿就知道了。话说回
来，费舍尔倒是去告了，还没告赢。怎么这最受害的，属于重灾区的族裔没人来打官司
，讨个说法呀？前一阵儿那个SAT 2230（？）的候选人，目测打不赢。那些“hurt
most by race-based affirmative action in college admissions”在哪里呀？其实
该作者也在玩语言游戏：提出一个 race-based affirmative action 的录取规则，当
然没人会赞同。问题是，哪个学校的录取规则是 race-based 的啊？从费舍尔案中我们
可以看到，族裔这个因素，在入学录取时的作用，有，但是某小项的某支项之一，绝对
不是录取结果的决定因素。It is not race-BASED!
至于“it's highly que... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******9
发帖数: 4371 | 33 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: longspear (Chang Mao), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 哈佛法学院关于AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的辩论
关键字: affirmative action
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 21 13:11:39 2014, 美东)
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/1054
辩题是：Affirmative Action On Campus Does More Harm Than Good
正方辩手有UCLA法学院的Rich Sander教授，他对AFFIRMATIVE ACTION的负面效果实证
研究很有名，当然也有争议，值得一看。 |
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发帖数: 38600 | 34 http://www.jewishpress.com/blogs/guest-blog/affirmative-action-
It should properly be called “Affirmative Action Looting.” Having lectured
the world for decades that American blacks should not be expected to obey
the law or conform to the standards of behavior applicable to others, that
black crime is a protest against social injustices, that blacks cannot
succeed because of white skin privilege and never mind that there is a black
president, the liberal establishment might as well be torching t... 阅读全帖 |
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h***n
发帖数: 1600 | 35 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: hsbbn (habby), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 210k Job ads 不再宣称Equal Employment而是affirmative action employer
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 14 10:08:00 2016, 美东)
大家自己看, indeed job ads, 公开宣称是affirmative action employer有210k:
http://www.indeed.com/q-affirmative-action-jobs.html |
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l******d
发帖数: 5255 | 36 我反对。原因：
1.白人是在用牺牲亚裔来补偿黑人。白人没有牺牲自己。
白人要补偿黑人我没有意见。但是不能以牺牲亚裔的利益来实现。
刚才在本版看了一个帖子，说aa实际上是把亚裔的位置让给了黑人（取消aa，白人入学
等比率几乎不变，会大量增加亚裔入学）。
白人祖先犯了罪，为什么要亚裔还债？道理何在？
2.affirmative action是对黑人的歧视
实际上是认为他们没有足够的能力与其他人种竞争。aa打击的是黑人心底的自尊和自豪感self-esteem.
3.affirmative action违反美国宪法
美国宪法禁止以肤色种族为标准来判断一个人。aa正是以肤色种族来判断一个人是否符
合录取条件。
4.affirmative action违背了Martin Luther King的理想
mlk的理想是人不被肤色来判断。mlk如果活着也会反对aa的，因为这与他的理想正相反。之所以单提出他来，因为他是美国黑人的追求平等的代表。
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也许我们中的大部分上了好大学，也许我们不在乎是否被损害了利益。
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a********s
发帖数: 4 | 37 非常简单的说一下教育领域里的AA, 希望大家了解一点历史，特别是稀饭们，不要再说
affirmative action违宪了。最高法院几十年前裁定AA作为一种race conscious
remedy是符合美国宪法的。
Race conscious remedy最早的出现是为了执行Brown v. Board of Education的
desegregate school并建立种族融合的学校的精神，所以AA的前身是affirmative
integration。 Brown案子大家应该都听说过，它实际上是两个部分，1954的第一部分
只判定了separate but equal 的教育系统违反了宪法中的equal protection，然后最
高法院在1955年裁决的第二部分里开始要求全国学区以最快的速度desegregate and
integrate。对于有些地区实行的affirmative integration，最高院在1971年的Swann
v. Charlotte Board of Education中判定这种方式是合法的，而且阐明学校have
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x****k
发帖数: 2932 | 38 版上认识我的ID的都应该知道我的立场，所以人身攻击就免了（也对我无效）
请大家帮忙找一下donald trump 对于 affirmative action的态度。我直接google了
"donald trump on affirmative action"
总体感觉是他的态度是在不明确到支持AA之间。
对比ted cruz在 Jun. 30, 2015的采访（link会在回帖给出）
“When affirmative action came up, Cruz argued vigorously against race-based
admissions, and warned that de-prioritizing academic merit in selecting
applicants would inevitably lead to unintentional injustices. As evidence,
he pointed to Ivy League schools that used to enforce “negative quotas” to
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x****k
发帖数: 2932 | 39 还有这个link里他和 Chuck Todd 的对话
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/12/trump-piles-on-sc
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Here is Trump’s exchange with Chuck Todd on the subject this summer:
CHUCK TODD:
Affirmative action. Should we keep it? Yes or no.
DONALD TRUMP:
I’m fine with affirmative action. I mean, I think —
CHUCK TODD:
Should it be expanded? Or should it —
DONALD TRUMP:
— we’ve been having —
CHUCK TODD:
— be limited?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, y... 阅读全帖 |
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h***n
发帖数: 1600 | 40 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: hsbbn (habby), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 210k Job ads 不再宣称Equal Employment而是affirmative action employer
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 14 10:08:00 2016, 美东)
大家自己看, indeed job ads, 公开宣称是affirmative action employer有210k:
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f*******2
发帖数: 149 | 41 至少我周围的白左都complain过好学校亚洲人的比例太高了,they think it
's a problem - did you see this?? I've heard multiple people graduating from
top US universities complained about they are seeing too many Asians on
campus， 这不是被迫害妄想症吧。
read this from google post:
Affirmative action is a subject of controversy in American politics.
Opponents of affirmative action argue that these policies amount to reverse
discrimination which entails favoring one group over another based upon
racial preference rather than achievement... 阅读全帖 |
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h*****m
发帖数: 1034 | 44 文章里提供了不同的观点和思考。
这是我赞同的：
Critics of affirmative action, however, say focusing on enrollment numbers
is the wrong goal. Because race-based discrepancies in academic achievement
emerge in early childhood, “college is way too little, too late to source
the pipeline” said Amy Wax, a professor of law at the University of
Pennsylvania. Aggressive affirmative action policies lead to “trouble down
the road” for admitted students, she said. “When you put people in who are
struggling to compete, that’s ver... 阅读全帖 |
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a***k
发帖数: 1038 | 45 3012的支持者用先来先得的公平原则来推动法案。可是美国当前的一个重要的政治原则
是affirmative action高于简单的公平。在affirmative action大行其道的美国政坛搞
3012是严重的政治路线错误。
众院主席Lamar7月11号已经明确表明2012年因为时间有限，不会再处理任何移民法案。
2012年，3012已经铁定死掉了。可以看到下一届国会再搞3012也将同样是一轮政治闹剧。
苦难深重的技术移民们应该意识到affirmative action在美国政坛的至高无上性，不要
把精力无谓的浪费在3012上，应该大力推动过去浪费名额的recapture和取消配偶名额
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t***h
发帖数: 2924 | 47 美国的大公司和政府,学校部门的聘用术语, 正在从几十年来一直使用的:
we are an equal opportunity employer 逐渐变成为:
we are an affirmative action employer.
equal opportunity指的是, 不管申请者的年龄性别和种族,都获得一视同仁的对待.
affirmative action指的是,优先录用黑人,墨西哥人,LGBT, 女性等. 在这个
affirmative action的录用优先顺序里, 华裔男子排名倒数第一,是最后一个被录用的,
华裔女子享受到对女人的照顾,所以是倒数第二被录用的, 比华女低的,只有一群人: 华
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 48 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: yourtt (rainmaker), 信区: USANews
标 题: 种族歧视将要重回加州:affirmative action
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 28 12:12:08 2012, 美东)
种族歧视将要重回加州.
Affirmative action suit gets Brown's support
More than 15 years after California voters approved a ban on affirmative
action based on race or gender preferences, a new challenge to Proposition
209 has reached a federal appeals court - and the challengers this time
include Gov. Jerry Brown.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********r
发帖数: 4612 | 49 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: HazelEyes (HazelEyes), 信区: Military
标 题: 最高法院推翻AFFIRMATIVE ACTION [小律师闲得无聊专业点评]
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 24 13:56:06 2013, 美东)
其实没完全推翻，只是限制了一下现在法院对大学的放任
背景说一下：德州大学奥斯汀分校（其实是总校好不好）在收录学生的时候把种族当作
考虑因素之一，某白人MM被拒不爽，于是状告学校录取学生的做法种族歧视。
初级法院在案子没有上庭之前判定MM败诉（Summary Judgment)。
MM上诉，上诉法院维持原判，说根据以前最高法院的判决，虽然任何与种族歧视的政府
措施都要以所谓“严格审查”的标准来断定其合（宪）法性，但在教育问题上，因为
student diversity是一个正当而且非常重要的政府目标（legitimate and compelling
state interest)，法院会尊重大学自己来掌握分寸；除非学生能证明学校的作为不正
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M******e
发帖数: 382 | 50 (This article is widespread like a virus, so it deserves responses, even
though its content is full of factual errors and empty of logic)
Ms. Jenn (A Chinese Canadian)’s article for SCA5 starts with a rhetorical
title: “Top 5 anti-Affirmative Action Myths About SCA5 | #NoLiesNoHate”.
Unfortunately, right in the second paragraph, before she could even bring up
a “lie” from anti-SCA5 camp, Ms. Jenn created a lie of her own:
“Prop 209 has had a devastating effect on UC schools: Black, Latino …
admi... 阅读全帖 |
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