T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 1 thanks, that is a great one.
AA,
AA
behind.
need
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 2 Just happened I played enough hands so I gained card runner access again.
I decided to login and watch Damn Ringer Rush poker video player recommended.
The video is RUSH NL200 part 2.
For some reason, I am a little disapointed ( no offense to player)
I focused on couple big hands he played, because that is where I have most
intest in: big pot. Unfortunately he played those hands rather poorly and
got cleaned out all three hands.
1. KK in position against a semi tight player on a 2 7 8 board, Vil... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 3
a little bit bored with rush. played some STHUSNG, did not play much
recently ,but still my favorate game. Many reg experienced 60-100 bi downswing. I have a few 30 bi downswing. Had a roller coaster run. played with an super loose , aggro guy. his ss got blocked. I would not say he is a fish, but not good either and defend BB with hands like J5o.
A little tilting at beginning , after losing a few huge favor situation,but
made a huge comeback. HU is all about adjustment. |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 4 直接推得那个fish是一个44/25的fish，Merge上这种aggro fish太多太多了
其实当时我也是和你这样想的，我当时想，如果call了，后面那个fish也跟过来就好了
从preflop的角度上来讲他拿着KTs,T8s,87s,76s,甚至65s都有可能，但是他直接推flop
的话KTs,T8s的可能性就是0,所以他只有可能87s,76s,65s这几种组合
结果是我输掉了这个pot，the fish shoved on flop got 62s
我的odds比我想象的要差很多 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 5 I agree, 3 betting against SB raise here looks too strong.
shove the turn when aggro SB bet big.
or you can simply shove on the flop, looks you have hand like JT and do not
want to get called.
target |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 6 我在Merge 50NL的经验是don't try to outplay TAG reg there, just play your
abc game with REG and most of your profits come from huge "who can not fold
top pair" fish.
你得学习观察桌上的其他players,这样你就不会over aggro了
bet
lightly
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 7 仔细想想还真是这样，打HU遇到的很多德国玩家基本都是TAG，而北欧的一般很凶很不
好对付，其实俄罗斯玩家倒是挺好对付的。不过总体风格tag可能是直到今年才有德国
玩家进WSOPME final table的原因吧。北欧玩家的aggro也使得他们当中更容易出现
isildur1这种高手。 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 8 大名鼎鼎的 player 对于亚洲人的看法有误，呵呵。
亚洲的，大概只有老中是字典式的 weak tight, or nit 吧。
我所见过的韩国棒槌，80% 以上的都是 loose aggro, 属于一条道跑到黑，怎么赶都赶
不走的那一类, 其中又有很高比例（相对老中而言）是 mania。
老印现在玩牌的也很多，但玩的好的几乎没有几个。他们很多是属于 loose passive，
奇怪，几乎每个老印上班都带饭，怎么一上桌就不把钱当钱呢？
日本人几乎不打牌，偶尔看到有个把的，也是 fish.
在东部的越南佬，我碰到的不是很多。中东，黎巴嫩 (Sammy Farha?)的，偶尔碰到几
个，也是超 loose, as a matter fact, 这里赌场我碰到的最大的 mania, 就是中东来
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 9 en. 我错了。
现在亚洲人打牌的多起来了。最近很多老印开始上网打牌了。 大概亚洲太大
了， 不能一概而论，我觉得老中和小日本都比较守， 我同意韩国棒槌很凶。不过韩国
的好牌手不多，毕竟poker光凶是不够的。
最大的菜鸟出产国，应该是巴西。 一般非常loose, 但又不aggro, 都打
自己的牌。 这个国家人的平均智商可能便低。我打ｈｕｓｎｇ,最喜欢和巴西人打。现
在他们钱也多了。 btw, I am not racial,just fact. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 10 http://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/bad-beat-on-cancer-poker-seminar/id444429153
All free.
Includes Phil G, jungleman, dolye brunson etc.
Honestly, quite educational. Not something that you can learn from CR's
vid often.
Have not watched them all, but highly recommend Vanessa Selbest's one.
Thought she is a just a pure aggro tourney player. Now I have more respect
to her game after watching some of her TV shows. She talks about table
image in this speech. She is well considere... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 Jerry Yang is super aggro. I do not think a lot of ppl have that guts. |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 12 网上aggro donk会变多？？
晚上打牌发现鱼有点增多 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 13 the reason is if you can outplay a fish postflop, you should play a wider
range
preflop in position. It doesn't equal to play aggro against fish. I often
see fish slowplays a lot of big hands online. If you always want to push
fish
out, it is not a good idea and not a good postflop either. Since fish don't
know how to make values from big hand, you can lose way less when you facing
a big hand from fish and get rewarded when you have big hands.
Actually, you can raise almost 80% of your range fro... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 14 5/10 NL. Very loose game and lots of action. A few guys sat down with 10+
K.
I played a super nitty game with shortstack(starting with 1k) at the table
and tried to not getting involved with many pots.
Then this hand came out: I was at SB with 1.8k, there were two limpers,
including button with very big stack. I looked my hand and I got KK. So I
made 100$ to go out of SB, BB called and button called as well.
BB is a very loose/aggro cash game pro and sat with more than 10K
s... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 15 I actually like my flop betsize there. The pot was 400$ and my bet is 75%
of the pot. I can find enough info with this bet.
Smaller bet would make ppl behind me float a lot in positioin and make
life really tough in later street. The button is a very good loose/aggro
player as well. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 16 Both BB and button sitting with deepstack are cash game pro. They are
both very aggro, but both are very thinking players. NO way they would
stack me off with TT-QQ with my super nitty image.
【 在 Windstormm (Windstormm) 的大作中提到: 】
give
10s
100$ |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 17 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 报一下喜 You are more suited to play tournament, IMO. You should defintely try
playing more.
Aggro has much bigger edge in tourny. Rock like me will scare to death to play players like u in tourney. Haha. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 18 you are a real nit! lol
All my game recently are HU, so maybe I play over aggro.
I would just ship there. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 19 【: hand 2, what size of the pot that he raised 140 into, and why you call
with
I am sorry that I fogot to mention that there was straddle preflop.I
called 20$ straddle UTG.
so there is 55$ in the pot before he raised to 140. I started the hand with
more than 3k and he got me covered. Calling 120 more with 99 is OK with
me with stack so deep. If I raised UTG and got 3 bet by suepr LAG(he
3 bet pretty light), I would have a hard time to continue with 99.
Super LAG is a young Amer... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 21 MM老师，我发现我确实有一些牌打得过于aggro，特别是不怎么会check behind to
take
a free card。 我觉得有些board过于激进可能导致我NL100上赚不到钱的主要原因。
有时候这个度很难控制，我经常尝试变化flop之后的AF，发现效果也不是特别好
should
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 22 我也有过坐台的日子，呵呵, 等客的时候那是超级无聊大概也就是看看电视打发时间。
不过我玩了几万手NL50就没玩下去了，我的打法太aggro donk了，还是sng/mtt不断all in
比较刺激也更合适。lol |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 23 was it heads-up? if mp is an OK player, i guess after u callied turn bet,
prolly u guys checked down the rest. I dont like to chase aggro with
relatively short stack tho. |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 24 被hnr是挺郁闷的，不过很多这种hnr的fish都是有很大的leak，都很急功近利地想
double up走人，经常是某些spot打得太aggro或太station。我基本上把所有hnr fish
当成一类来打，不会不给他们action，只要他们不broke还是会回来的。 |
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s*l
发帖数: 182 | 25 It is very unlikely he had a wrap on that flop. There are 6 blockers already
, no player would get crazy with wrap with paired board. I'd expect AAxx
fold on the turn blank (假设 turn 7) since this was in a PLO tournament, it
is pretty clear you at least had a K.
IMO, the calling range on the turn is very narrow, KTxx, Kxxx with a very
strong kicker like AKxx. Or the turn blank made his K7xx to a smaller full
house. He might have AK7x with the redraw. The worst case, he was
freerolling the river w... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 26 so have you tried to play the HU LH slot machine in Bellagio? there was a
huge thread in 2p2 about that machine. It was designed by IGT and based on
AI/neural network etc. some ppl said a top notch LH player can beat that
machine. I played a few times , but won a little bit each time. The machine
seems super aggro,but seems follow certain pattern.
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 27 A nice one! thanks for sharing. I definately agree with thinning field line.
Even in short stack heads up situation, getting FE is so important as well
. Even when play against some really bad/loose aggro opponent in short stack
headsup our winning rate is not as good as passive opponent who fold a lot.
It'
extended
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So
wants
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 28 in general 15-22bb stack is considered optimal 3bet-shove stack, in the
sense the risk-reward ratio is best, i.e., you're not risking too much to
gain a substantial pot. and you have decent fold equity because the initial
aggressor would not have proper odds to call your shove too light.
besides the 3bet-shove, you can still raise/fold vs some tight-nonaggressive
players (aka rocks). against hyper-aggro donks who shove over your raise
100%, raise/call with decent hands is high-variance but very ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 29 my2c
fold to passive players and call aggros
if villain's stats look balanced (wssd ex small 50?), call first time and
take notes |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 30 一口气看下来，觉得很赞，赞xwang这颗冉冉升起的牛星，扎实的基本功力，赞qing对
于poker的理解和拿捏，以及非常精确的分析
说下我个人的观点
扎实的poker abc在低级别live game里稳定挣钱，且盈率可观，这已经是公认的事实。
很多情况下，打牌的策略，无需考虑（也没办法考虑）对手的因素。只需要用最合理的
打法，利用对手的低级错误狠狠value就绰绰有余，这仿佛已经成了真理。
但是，我觉得，这并不代表，这样的感觉上最合理的打法，永远是最正确/最优的打法
。当你完全了解对手的风格，thinking level，甚至打法中所存在的问题的时候，往往
你的机会就来了，基于你更准确的read，你甚至可以很大程度上不依赖于自己牌的强度
，而在适合的spot里，迫使对手做出错误的决定，这就是所谓的play player的level
反过来讲，采用最扎实的poker abc的打法，在欢快而无脑地收取鱼儿们的价值的同时
，也会被那些知道你在干什么的对手狠狠的exploit。
低级别的live/online game，这点非常不明显，甚至可以忽略不计。因为你的绝大多数
对手都还没能够扎实的... 阅读全帖 |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 31 exactly! I hate live 1/2! Only played twice in my life, both ended up losing.
用qing哥的那种super aggro的高级打法去打live 1/2，我相信，他
会死得很惨。因为鱼群并不了解他的action代表着什么强度，是基于怎样的数学计算而
得出的接近最优的决策，他们眼里基本上，都是bluff，呵呵。
当然我也相信，真把qing哥扔到live 1/2里，他也会变得老老实实，跟那些个live 老
爷爷的打法没太大差别。 |
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R******d
发帖数: 976 | 32 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 也来一手 nice call啊，JJ对于这种aggro fish来说就是monster了，7d算是个cooler，没必要
quit啊 |
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R******d
发帖数: 976 | 33 安感脚蛤 online更aggro，对手普遍比较紧（因为multi－table？），variance更大
live的鱼多，打法松弱多，所以break even的online选手在水平上就可以打败live
安online是looser，live可以打败1/2和3/5，现在不打online了，有时候acr会给赠送
50块，安就进去0.25/0.5抡两蛤 然后睡觉 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 34 跟 villain 以前只同桌过一次，应该是一个 average tight 的 player。只有两副牌
有印象，一副是他拿了 quads，一路 check call，把一个 aggro 给 stack 了，属于
monster 的标准打法。另一副牌他 heavy bet a Q J 9 flop ，然后 fold to 400
raise，他摊出来 AA，人家 show 34s。
这次同桌，看了他几首牌：
1. 他 call 3 bet 很 loose，几乎大多数情况都会 call
2. 打法有些 tricky，而且一个很大的特点是喜欢 OOP bet into raiser。 因为几乎
没有 showdown，所以我不知道他 bet into raiser 的牌力如何。只好根据我以前经验
，即 bet into raiser 的牌力一般都是中等偏下，monster 的可能性比较低。
3. 有 bluff，看到他一副牌 river bluff 200 on missed draw，给人抓了。
在这之前刚跟他打了一副牌，7 8 T x T 的 board，我 A 7 nut flus... 阅读全帖 |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 35 Whats your image to him?
I'm not a big fun folding here on the river. one possible line is that he
was on draw or combo draw and river missed. Showdown value hands would've
check/call on river. If he had monster, no reason to push you out on river
unless he knew you like made hero call. As you said, you two don't have too
much history. Facing unknown villain, this line looks weird.
Or villain had special read on you, knew you had big pair or AK and he
flopped two pairs+, was trying to get maxi... 阅读全帖 |
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r*k
发帖数: 915 | 44 shiva的那个忍者保镖是男的...
看人家这样子...
沼泽师匠死了的话，她卖的那些高级咒术你没来得及买的话只得等下周目了，也就是这
点不便。所以说，找师匠的时候身上不能有任何aggro...此人经常的死法就是被石头砸
死，或者被蚊子弄死。 |
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r*k
发帖数: 915 | 45 得带rusted iron ring保证机动性...打里屋那个我有时候为了保险还会带个迷雾戒指
避免aggro到另一个....好在那个场地至少够大...
great |
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r*k
发帖数: 915 | 46 qualaana的常见死因之一，就是你去找他的时候aggro了旁边那几个扔石头的怪，于是
她被石头砸死了...
如果来生再见的话，找她之前先四周看看有没有引到怪.... |
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r*k
发帖数: 915 | 47 不是自己砍，而是你下去aggro那个蛇人，然后背靠着墙，提着盾让蛇人攻击你，如果
蛇人用了大剑往前戳的那招，就会把你身后的墙壁捅破。 |
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L******k
发帖数: 2945 | 48 前两天看到地上爬着一个人，上去就砍，结果竟然听到他在讨饶，原来此人是Cale,差
点把这个人打死了不过竟然没aggro，还是把钥匙给我了 |
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b***u
发帖数: 12010 | 49 我跳过前两个巨人直接杀了giant lord，是不是可以直接throne of want了？
因为没去其他两个，两个npc都不能招。没意思很多。古龙那回来也没人告诉去哪找巨
人，唯一有印象就是巨人森有个需要戒指的门，里面就是巨人boss。
这里分析巨人lord就是第一个boss，挺有意思。
1. Different from all other giants you can see in the memories, "The Giant
Lord" isn't bulky and rather tiny, he's large and kinda thin, just unique
like "The Last Giant".
2. The time you first meet "The Last Giant" he remains calm, but in the
moment he recognizes you, he grows incredibly aggro rips all his boundings,
in the end even his arm, just in o... 阅读全帖 |
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u******a
发帖数: 7843 | 50 入侵者自己不会 aggro 到别人世界的怪, 这设定太不合理了... |
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