f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 sigh，也许是一生的等待.....抑或，哪天俺俩玩，俺让你狂badbeat一把？要咋beat咋
beat，要多bad有多bad，完了请俺吃点东西就成？
far.
draw,
we
fives
bad |
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i***g
发帖数: 80 | 2 他们在说wsop。这个本来是RaiN的错结果变成了他的double up。没办法运气的事。长
久来讲运气每个人都会光顾一下所以技术还是越高越好，高到一定程度，就能长期盈利
了。毕竟细分到每一手，还是赌博。这种preflop AA all in 被灭，也是没办法的事。
这种二愣子的牌之所以经典就因为出现概率还是很小。打牌打久了就比的是心态了。每
手输了不要想冤不冤，想想自己打错没有就释怀了。因为打久了，也会出现你badbeat
别人的情况。
那个谈论的大毛是一个高手。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 3 我最近遇到这种bad beat也很多.有时侯太多了会怀疑online software 出千.
不过如果能确定online software没问题,对这种bad beat并不是太care.因为时间长了
还是会赢回来.相反那位抓QQ的,是loser特症.在我看来是个fish.
我相信MTT打到最后,技术好的还是会赢.只不过技术要在相对较长的过程中发挥作用.就
是说,要打很多盘才赢一次大的.
S&G赢的概率会大的多.
badbeat |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 4 Last weekend went to Cesears trying to hit badbeat jackpot, got a horrible
one instead. Sitting in a loose 1/2 NL table, I was getting not many
playable hands and picking up 79o in BB, Button min-raise to $7. I called
and so did 4 limpers.
The flop came 568 rainbow I am first to act and bet 25 called by 3 spots.
Turm a A and I like it a lot, fishes may hit so I bet 55 called by one and
raised by
button, I pushed all in around 300 and they both called. The pot is around
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s**h
发帖数: 262 | 5 fish bites sometimes too. All we need to do is just keeping them happy so
they can stay longer and dump more money. If I suffered a badbeat from a
fish/donkey, I just say "nice hand" "well played", you don't want to make
them realize their mistakes and thus improve, you want them make the same
mistakes again cus they won't be lucky every time.
, |
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s**h
发帖数: 262 | 6 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 又是小费 实际上,那个赢了$6000 pot的美国小老头牌品还是不错的,他是很crazy,不过从不whine
about the loss,输的时候就说" you got me"
dealer的嘴脸有时也很丑陋,他们只想要tip,给了你个badbeat,还对别人说nice hand.
现在计划把tip要降低一些,遇到讨厌的就少给一点
in
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 7 Not playing such high stake, but is very usuall online site to induce
badbeats like this. Got KK once capped too I did not even call the rag flop
with raise and reraise in front. 4 hands saw the river and there were 3 sets.
I do believe they deal above-average hands in higer ratios to initiate
actions so they can collect rakes. They make little money dealing everybody
27,39s.
of
for
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p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 8 My friend told me the other day that on a flop of 766, he called a bet on
the flop with 22, on the turn, he hit his 2, capped the turn with the
opponent, the river is another 2, capped the river again. The opponent
showed pocket 77s. That's the ultimate badbeat, haha.
blank,
".
immediately |
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p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 9 I want to hit a badbeat jackpot too, I haven't even hit a royal flush at the
local casino. |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 10 This guy, Hellmuth, whenever he got a badbeat, there would be endless
complaints, as if his opponent committed crime. I am sick of his behavior. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 just hope everything will work out for him, "take it as a badbeat and move
on..." as david chiu said. |
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p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 12 no bother at all, actually if I hold 45h on a 678h, I will pray someone has
9Th, becasue I will get a big fat badbeat jackpot, hehe. |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 13 精华并不是badbeats.
精华是通过自己和对手的action,探索对手牌力,从而以弱牌击败强牌,或以强牌谋取最大收益. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 呵呵，BADBEAT长期来讲，还是属于小概率事件，只不过受害时印象比较深就是了。
昨天俺被搞两次：
1) As5s in a multi-way pot.
flop: 7s3s2s, do i have anything to worry about? bet medium with position, 3
callers.
turn: Kd. check to me. guess someone could have Ks and now gets a pair. bet
big and one caller (hehe, want to have 2 callers).
river: 7d. bet big and someone shoves, what else can i do?
33, i don't blame him at all.
2) KK before final table, good stack.
limp at UTG, waiting for some medium stacks to shove so i can cap it.
none. but SB |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 15 你这个算不上什么bad beats.
第一个66%, 第二个57%, 输了挺正常.
倒是你badbeat人家的比较低概率.
3
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 you cannot let your fear control you...
yes, you "avoid" badbeats by overbetting out of scare, but you're winning
much less than you should have.
in the long run, it'll be a losing strategy because every one will get his
fair share of "good cards", you need to win some "extra" beyond the average
to make even, or some big "extra" to be a winning player.
keep a notebook of your hands (don't forget the ones you got LUCKY), you'll
find online actually is no diff.
river
up |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 17 想想，很多人靠online poker生活呢
有啥可不信的
如果都是badbeat，这些人早撤了 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 18 I think Jerry Yang is a joke.
Jammie Gold is over aggressive.
在NBC看过几场Jerry Yang 的HU,差不多no read,就知道别人raise,他再reraise.差不多他所有的reraise都撞板.别人bluff是靠read,他是靠瞎蒙.2+2都在议论他是个fish.他拿一次世界冠军运气好而已.
我看过一次pokerstars欧洲之旅锦标赛,有一傻冒就知道raise,别人一bet,他就raise allin.大部分牌都是落后把人家badbeat,最后还拿了亚军.这个和Jerry Yang有一比. |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 19 So you were not only playing with tb**, right? And you failed take this into
consideration. You made a mistake but were lucky to badbeat another guy who
did the right thing.If you want to explain how your strategy would work out
, you should not post this hand as an example. This whole hand only shows
a bad play but good luck. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 20 看了下图片，好像很多badbeat啊，哈哈。
11 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 21 repeat after me: badbeat is normal - fryking
kaka. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 i did observe this for some time (not just for myself).
1) due to the slow speed, 6，7钟头 is realistically about 100 hands at most
(food, restroom breaks, change card decks, chip refill...);
2) rakes/tips eat too much from the table slowly. rake is $4 max each hand,
plus $1 for badbeat jackpot (if there's one), $1-2 tip (small hands) for
dealer, $1 for waitress (coffee, soda...)... all together, basically, at
least $50+ leaves the table quietly each hour;
3) to win big at such low stakes, you real |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 23 呵呵，没办法，歇几天吧，没有人可以厉害到完全不当回事，cardplayer上说了，几乎
没有哪个pro没有输光过至少一次的经历，它们至少比咱bankroll还厚，心理素质强，
大场面见得多吧？
连现在如日中天的durrrr，2007年夏天把3M输到1M，也想过是不是收关，把这剩下的钱
存到银行，然后去干个什么正常职业。
badbeat其实不可怕，怕的是没了自信，输光了也不可怕，咱们也没有倾家荡产的赌。
牌运太差，站起来就走的本事绝对要有，没有poker god，没有报仇。
bankroll management也确实有道理，在一张桌子上，不要玩超过5%的，当手气好，毛
驴多的时候看，也许很保守，不过回头背运时想想，多少人的血泪经验。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 hehe, after 3 years of play, i finally figured it out, i don't have it (win
big) in me.
as i read so many pros' stories, 3 years is like a cutoff line, you either
become one big winner or you never will. i guess for me, i'll be where i am
now for looooong time, eat like a bird, suck (hopefully) not like an
elephant, lol.
yeah, for my current play, it's really hard for me to go broke with my tiny
roll, and i can pretty much win little here and there consistently. i get
badbeats but with short buy |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 25 hehe, i'm not 超脱 at all.
it's a painful discovery/learning process. yeah, everyone gets badbeats, and
maybe quite a few in a row on the same day. it's easy to blame it on
software/sites/donks/pants you wear/...
however, if you record every key hand (including winning ones) you played
and indeed REVIEW them, you'll see how to improve and fix your leaks, which
is much more important in the long run.
nobody is going to win $2M in a day, instead, maybe 3K here and 500 there
and 15K there. you maximi |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 26 是的，live里面拿这种天大nuts，3 way pot，真的爽，哈哈。
这点就看出修养不够了，以前在AC，有个哥们儿ThQh，跟了俺的$15 pre，结果flop就
是royal，人家面不改色的一直check到river，才bet了一点点...亮牌后很冷静的问俺
是不是AA，人家原来盘算的是那15万的badbeat jack pot(那时候AAAJJ就可以算)。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 oh, that's another story.
at this time (even before the crazy blizzard), all casinos looked pretty
empty... but you'll see long waiting list for poker. some went as long as 28
players waiting for $1/2 game, and 10+ for $2/5!! i've played in AC for
almost 3 years and never seen anything like this, even when economy was
better.
everyone was talking about the badbeat jackpot. for caesars, it's the
largest now for $360K+, harrahs got $220K+. both poker rooms are 100% full.
ballys got a small one and |
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d*****t
发帖数: 245 | 28 版主威武。。。
我也跟风贴一个我这小半年的live game总结 呵呵
6月： 第一次去local casino. 我们乡下地方，当时人很少，只有一桌2/5， 因为第一
次去玩，手紧加上新手运气，3个小时下来赢了600.
7月： 第二次去， 1/2桌。 碰到一堆shark，输了100心里就承受不住了，走人
中间上课没时间
直到11月，感恩节前后再去（就是第一次来跟大家打了盘周六的tournament后， 1/2桌
，心态比较平和，小赢200
12月初，1/2桌 玩了3小时，基本持平
前天，平安夜再去，2个小时完全没牌，偶有有几把上了又被badbeat， 直接输掉500先
，郁闷到极点，最后一趟出去ATM再提200，心想这200再挂了就彻底走人，结果否极泰
来，接连3次double up 同一个老黑，后来手风顺了就挡不住，最后反弹到1k2， 算下
来还挣了600多， 走的时候那个老黑一直在旁边fuck,fuck不断。。。
小结： live game 速度比较慢，但是我还挺喜欢，online打过几回，总觉得看不到人
，很难判断，加上ftp经常搞些bad beat 觉得不可控因素太多，也许是 |
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 29 问题是不能指望总能badbeat别人呀，我22那一把看到AA的时候都收衣服站起来准备走
人了，看到flop以后又坐下去了，呵呵。还是觉得tourney偶然性太大，不象cash game
赢一把是一把，lol。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 31 I might go to ac over the weekend. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 wish worst luck to you, lol. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 I wouldn't call getting 4 of a kind or better bad lucky, winning the pot or
not. lol |
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 34 harrahs is high too. Maybe I'll go there sometime later this month. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 35 sigh, really wished the other guy got straight flush too when last time i
hit a higher one there... it was at $220K.
wish you the worst luck too! |
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z********i
发帖数: 3192 | 36 我元旦去的 45万
排队都排到50几个人
玩了1下午,也没人中,运气也差 就走了 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 老实孩子，呵呵，嘘，下次这么搞，买好筹码，把名字列上（以备后路），然后就开始
在里面逛，看到哪桌有空位，直接理直气壮的坐下就是了。不要心虚的东张西望，坐下
同时＂友好＂的给桌子上人打招呼，＂how's everyone doing? are we ready to hit
it?...＂。发牌员，其他赌客根本不知道，也不会在意你是不是waiting list上的XX呢。
不过至于jackpot么，越来越象守株待兔了。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 39 这就是俺常说的那个俄罗斯女人的做法。
她是一年到头的常客，和发牌员／经理都很熟，从来没有看见她等过。一张桌子没机会
，就四处逛找鱼，找到了就坐下来，还装模做样的说＂oh, i put a table change
request for this table earlier...＂，说给谁听啊？发牌员只是不要乐出声来而已
，其他的人要么不在乎，要么就根本是不知情的鱼....常客大家根本不会自己掐。 |
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D*****A
发帖数: 551 | 40 我一般去mohegan，那里都不用怎么等。
下次我去AC的时候试试。 |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 41 rushgame 输了好多，呵呵，大概200.
如果自己打得好一点能不输不赢，如果badbeat少一点能稍微赢一点，
现在不是很敢碰rushgame了。
rushgame里面的all in比普通cashgame多很多，有点像tournament一把定胜负的感觉。
我的感受是rushgame更像tournament，我开始打NL25的，buyin10，那么相当于
玩10的tournament，这可吃不消。 |
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 42 I guess in Vegas if the losing hand is AAAKK or better, it is badbeat
qualified, right? |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 43 should we add a "badbeat" sector in jing hua qu? haha. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 44 The guy bets so small at flop and turn, he thought i am drawing dead |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 46 online KKKK或者以上被干才算
live 有的是至少AAAxx或者2222或者JJJJ以上 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 47 no, this happens everyday.
mine is better. |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 48 lol, no one get away here |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 49 yeah, i know, but it's in a tournament and i think only trops has a
tournament bad beat jackpot.
and i guess i've played over 1 million hands in total (cash+tourney), this
is the only one that "qualifies".
amazingly how it happens so often in live, for example, caesars' jackpot (
quad 2s+) gets hit almost every 1 or 2 months, considering that only about
8K hands dealt everyday for the whole room. |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 50 注册的时候没有注册rb账号的话是不是就没有badbeat了？靠，我被骗了 |
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