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m****a
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来自主题: Belief版 - Why Do We Baptize for the Dead? ( ZZ)
Conditions of Salvation Set by Christ
Because we believe that Jesus Christ is the Redeemer, we also accept His
authority to establish the conditions by which we may receive His grace.
Otherwise we would not concern ourselves with being baptized for the dead.
Jesus confirmed that “strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
leadeth unto life” (Matthew 7:14). Specifically, He said, “Except a man be
born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God”
(John 3:5). This mean... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: Belief版 - Why Do We Baptize for the Dead? ( ZZ)
The Power of Christ’s Resurrection
As regards the Resurrection, Paul asked, “Else what shall they do which are
baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then
baptized for the dead?” (1 Corinthians 15:29). We are baptized for the dead
because we know that they will rise. “The soul shall be restored to the
body, and the body to the soul; yea, and every limb and joint shall be
restored to its body; yea, even a hair of the head shall not be lost; but
all things shall be restor... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: Belief版 - Why Do We Baptize for the Dead? ( ZZ)
http://www.lds.org/liahona/2009/03/why-do-we-baptize-for-the-de
这里是12使徒之一的弟兄,讲解为什么我们为死人受浸。以下是一些节选:
Christian theologians have long wrestled with the question, What is the
destiny of the countless billions who have lived and died with no knowledge
of Jesus? With the Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ has come the
understanding of how the unbaptized dead are redeemed and how God can be “a
perfect, just God, and a merciful God also” (Alma 42:15).
While yet in life, Jesus prophesied that He w... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: Belief版 - Why Do We Baptize for the Dead? ( ZZ)
Some have misunderstood and suppose that deceased souls “are being baptized
into the Mormon faith without their knowledge.” 2 They assume that we
somehow have power to force a soul in matters of faith. Of course, we do not
. God gave man his agency from the beginning. The Church does not list them
on its rolls or count them in its membership.
Our anxiety to redeem the dead and the time and resources we put behind that
commitment are, above all, an expression of our witness concerning Jesus
Chris... 阅读全帖
E*******t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Want to baptize in Easter
Do you remember , what difference most after baptized?
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 28章 论洗礼
CHAPTER XXVIII
Of Baptism
I. Baptism is a sacrament of the new testament, ordained by Jesus Christ,[52
2] not only for the solemn admission of the party baptized into the visible
church;[523] but also, to be unto him a sign and seal of the covenant of gra
ce,[524] of his ingrafting into Christ,[525] of regeneration,[526] of remiss
ion of sins,[527] and of his giving up unto God, through Jesus Christ, to wa
lk in newness of life.[528] Which sacrament is, by Christ’s own appointment
, to be contin... 阅读全帖
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 28章 论洗礼
CHAPTER XXVIII
Of Baptism
I. Baptism is a sacrament of the new testament, ordained by Jesus Christ,[52
2] not only for the solemn admission of the party baptized into the visible
church;[523] but also, to be unto him a sign and seal of the covenant of gra
ce,[524] of his ingrafting into Christ,[525] of regeneration,[526] of remiss
ion of sins,[527] and of his giving up unto God, through Jesus Christ, to wa
lk in newness of life.[528] Which sacrament is, by Christ’s own appointment
, to be contin... 阅读全帖
m****s
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [合集] 查经贴-使徒行传
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Dramaer (不要问我从那里来) 于 (Fri Oct 22 12:02:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
Act 1:1-11 Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven
1In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and
to teach 2until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving
instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3After
his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
... 阅读全帖
G******e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 中国历史问题
你是不是都不用英语说话和写作?
LZZ: 不然的话,那些替死人受洗礼的能有什么作用呢?如果死人总不能得才活起来,
为什么人还替他们受洗礼呢?
New Intl.: Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are
baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people
baptized for them?
King James: Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if
the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
New King James: Otherwise, what will they do who are baptized for the
dead, if the dead do not rise at all? Why then a... 阅读全帖
a********j
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 问两个问题
教堂平时非礼拜的时候开放吗?也就是说,是不是我随时都可以去教堂做做祷告?平时
礼拜堂里面会有人吗?我是想,有时候可以自己去一个人祷告,但是最好礼拜堂里面没
有别人的时候。。。
如果要baptize的话,一般是走什么程序?是先上查经班吗?我现在是有上一个学习小
组(但不是专门查经的,而是关于基督教的讨论)。查经班在周日的早上,和礼拜的时间
重复居然。我不想为了上查经班牺牲礼拜。。。baptize一般一个教堂一年会举行几次
?baptize之前要做什么吗?我是有些恐惧别人让我做个演说分享我和神相识的经历之
类的。。。最好是简单地baptize了,也不想要很多人知道我baptize的事。不过目前还
有些犹豫到底要不要baptize。我有一个朋友自称是基督徒,但是他became a
christian五年了,还没有洗礼过。他说他觉得只要自己相信,不需要这些仪式上的东
西。
而我呢,之所以还在犹豫,是因为还是有很多关于基督教义的疑惑。。。我是学理科的
。我觉得圣经里的一些东西即使我baptized了,还是没有办法相信。这样的情况之下,
我应该baptize吗?我觉得如果我坚持只有完全相信了圣经教
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 27章 论圣礼
CHAPTER XXVII
Of the Sacraments
I. Sacraments are holy signs and seals of the covenant of grace,[511] immedi
ately instituted by God,[512] to represent Christ, and his benefits; and to
confirm our interest in him:[513] as also, to put a visible difference betwe
en those that belong unto the church, and the rest of the world;[514] and so
lemnly to engage them to the service of God in Christ, according to his Word
.[515]
II. There is, in every sacrament, a spiritual relation, or sacramental union
... 阅读全帖
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1a. Jesus was conceived of a virgin.
1b. Horus was conceived of a virgin.
2a. Jesus was the “only begotten son” of the god Yahweh.
2b. Horus was the “only begotten son” of the god Osiris.
3a. The mother of Jesus was Mary. Sometimes referred to as Maria or Miriam.
3b. The mother of Horus was Meri.
4a. The foster father of Jesus was Joseph.
4b. The foster father of Horus was Seph.
5a. Joseph was of royal descent, being from the House of David.
5b. Seph was of royal descent.
6a. Jesus was born in ... 阅读全帖
l*****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 耶稣?荷鲁斯?巧合?抄袭?
1a. Jesus was conceived of a virgin.
1b. Horus was conceived of a virgin.
2a. Jesus was the “only begotten son” of the god Yahweh.
2b. Horus was the “only begotten son” of the god Osiris.
3a. The mother of Jesus was Mary. Sometimes referred to as Maria or Miriam.
3b. The mother of Horus was Meri.
4a. The foster father of Jesus was Joseph.
4b. The foster father of Horus was Seph.
5a. Joseph was of royal descent, being from the House of David.
5b. Seph was of royal descent.
6a. Jesus was born in ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 6:1-14
E. Exposition Proper
Justification and sanctification are two different realities, but they must
never be separated and isolated one from the other. If they become totally s
eparated, the logical end is license. If they become merged together, a “wo
rks” oriented salvation results.
Paul is moving from freedom from the penalty of sin, (1:18-5:21) to freedom
from the power of sin (6:1ff). He has explained “the righteous by faith” i
n 1:18-5:21, now he is moving on to explain “shall live” and fill ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Jesus vs the Horus Mythology
Is Jesus Simply a Retelling of the Horus Mythology?
What if I told you there was once an ancient religion whose God was
conceived by a virgin named Meri and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph)?
What if I told you this God was born in a cave and his birth was announced
by an angel, heralded by a star and attended by shepherds? He attended a
special rite of passage at the age of twelve (although the ancient texts
describing this God are silent about His life from the age of 12 to 30). At
30 years ... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: USANews版 - 梅恩这回难得帮了个忙
A top spokeswoman for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign mocked
Catholics and evangelical Christians in a 2011 email exchange exposed by
WikiLeaks this week.
In the exchange reported Tuesday night on Fox News Channel's "The Kelly File
", Jennifer Palmieri, now the Clinton campaign's director of communications,
says that politically conservative Catholics "think [Roman Catholicism] is
the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion. Their rich
friends wouldn't understand if th... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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Chapter 5.2 Burial Means An End
Peter goes on now to describe baptism in the passage just quoted as “the
answer of a good conscience toward God” (1 Peter 3:21 A.V.). Now we cannot
answer without being spoken to . If God had said nothing we should have no
need to answer. But He has spoken; He has spoken to us by the Cross. By it
He has told of His judgment of us, of the world, of the old creation and of
the old kingdom. The Cross is not only Christ’s personally—an ‘individual
’ Cross. It is an al... 阅读全帖
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Chapter 5.2 Burial Means An End
Peter goes on now to describe baptism in the passage just quoted as “the
answer of a good conscience toward God” (1 Peter 3:21 A.V.). Now we cannot
answer without being spoken to . If God had said nothing we should have no
need to answer. But He has spoken; He has spoken to us by the Cross. By it
He has told of His judgment of us, of the world, of the old creation and of
the old kingdom. The Cross is not only Christ’s personally—an ‘individual
’ Cross. It is an al... 阅读全帖
m****a
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On July 24th, pioneer day, my family will celebrate our 19th anniversary of
being baptized into this church. Into this ward, the Baybrook Ward, as a
matter of fact. July 24th, 1988.
I remember it fairly well. I was 11 years old at the time. But let me give
you some back story. I was raised going to sort of a non-denominational
church. I remember the Sunday school lessons, learning the book of the bible
, etc. I never had anything against it, but I would usually be glad when we
didn’t go because ... 阅读全帖
G******e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 中国历史问题
可以替死人受洗:
哥林多前书 15:29
NIV: Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized
for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for
them?
ASV: Else what shall they do that are baptized for the dead? If the dead are
not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them?
C****i
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CHAPTER VII
Of God’s Covenant with Man
I. The distance between God and the creature is so great, that although reas
onable creatures do owe obedience unto him as their Creator, yet they could
never have any fruition of him as their blessedness and reward, but by some
voluntary condescension on God’s part, which he hath been pleased to expres
s by way of covenant.[144]
II. The first covenant made with man was a covenant of works,[145] wherein l
ife was promised to Adam; and in him to his posterit... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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Chapter 5.1 Two Creations
Thus, in Satan’s hands, the first creation has become the old creation, and
God’s primary concern is now no longer with that but with a second and new
creation. He is bringing in a new creation, a new kingdom and a new world,
and nothing of the old creation, the old kingdom or the old world can be
transferred to the new. It is a question now of these two rival realms, and
of which realm we belong to.
The apostle Paul, of course, leaves us in no doubt as to which of thes... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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Chapter 5.1 Two Creations
Thus, in Satan’s hands, the first creation has become the old creation, and
God’s primary concern is now no longer with that but with a second and new
creation. He is bringing in a new creation, a new kingdom and a new world,
and nothing of the old creation, the old kingdom or the old world can be
transferred to the new. It is a question now of these two rival realms, and
of which realm we belong to.
The apostle Paul, of course, leaves us in no doubt as to which of thes... 阅读全帖
m*1
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - my1 (米伊) 违反“圣经”的言论
(NIV)Mar 1:5 The whole Judean countryside and all the people of
Jerusalem went out to him. Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him
in the Jordan River.
(ASV)Mar 1:5 And there went out unto him all the country of Judaea,
and all they of Jerusalem; And they were baptized of him in the river Jordan
, confessing their sins.
(NASB)Mar 1:5 And all the country of Judea was going out to him, and all
the people of Jerusalem; and they were being baptized by him in the Jordan
River, confes... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: Belief版 - LDS (Mormon) Prophet Wilford Woodruff
Wilford Woodruff was the fourth president of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, or Mormon Church. He was known for his missionary work,
the formation of the Genealogical Society, his witness of church history
extensively recorded, and for writing the manifesto that officially
prohibited plural marriage within the Church.
Wilford Woodruff was born on March 1, 1807, in Connecticut. His mother died
when he was only fifteen months old, but his father remarried three years
later and his... 阅读全帖
E*****m
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来自主题: Belief版 - 摩門教真是討人厭
Romney 給死人改宗教,也不管人家生前多討厭摩門。
http://gawker.com/5879888/yes-the-romneys-converted-mitts-dead-
Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism
Gawker's substantial Mormon readership has come through for us: Two readers
have sent us confirmation that Edward Davies, Mitt Romney's militantly
atheist father-in-law, was indeed posthumously converted to Mormonism by his
family, despite the fact that when he was alive he regarded all religions
as "hogwash."
As we mentioned yester... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 查经贴-使徒行传
Acts 8:9-25 Simon the Sorcerer
9Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and
amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great,
10and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and
exclaimed, “This man is the divine power known as the Great Power.” 11They
followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his magic.
12But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom
of God and the name of Jesus ... 阅读全帖
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 第二十五章 论教会
CHAPTER XXV
Of the Church
I. The catholic or universal church, which is invisible, consists of the who
le number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one,
under Christ the Head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fullness of
him that filleth all in all.[490]
II. The visible church, which is also catholic or universal under the gospel
(not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of all thos
e throughout the world that profess the true religion;[491... 阅读全帖
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chapter 13. 1 The Basis Of All True Ministry
No one can be a true servant of God without knowing the principle of death and the principle of resurrection. Even the Lord Jesus Himself served on that basis. You will find in Matthew 3 that, before His public ministry ever began, our Lord was baptized. He was baptized not because He had any sin, or anything which needed cleansing. No, we know the meaning of baptism: it is a figure of death and resurrection. The ministry of the Lord did not begin unt... 阅读全帖
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Hi, I'm Sean
http://mormon.org/me/6D2M/
Why I am a Mormon
I was baptized and became a Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
Day Saints (the Mormon Church) in 1997. I am thankful that my awesomest wife
invited two missionaries into our home to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ
and the Book of Mormon with our family. I grew up in a very spiritual home,
so I knew that Jesus was my savior. I grew up reading and learning the Bible
. Once I graduated High School and left home I didn't really c... 阅读全帖
J*******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译
你可以看看NET bible的解释:
https://net.bible.org/#!bible/Revelation+7:7
7:4The specific references to Israel and the names of the 12 Israelite
tribes strongly suggest that the nation of Israel is in view rather than the
church.[300] and the Literary Competence of John the Seer,” Journal of the
Evangelical Theological Society 38:2 (June 1995):213-18.
Most posttribulationists and amillennialists believe the 144,000 are members
of “spiritual Israel,” a title of theirs for the church.[301] Gundry
called the... 阅读全帖
B**T
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 耶稣复活始末
Jesus’ First Resurrection Appearance:
Mark 16:14-15 - Jesus appears to Mary Magdalena but it’s not clear where (
in older endings of Mark, he didn’t appear at all)
Matthew 28:8-9 - Jesus first appears near his tomb
Luke 24:13-15 - Jesus first appears near Emmaus, several miles from
Jerusalem
John 20:13-14 - Jesus first appears at his tomb
Jesus Ascends to Heaven:
Mark 16:14-19 - Jesus ascends while he and his disciples are seated at a
table in or near Jerusalem
Luke 24:50-51 - Jesus ascends outi... 阅读全帖
J*******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 你还要多少证据才能相信圣经呢?
你说呢?
不如您先看看这个
B. the appearances and ascension of Jesus 16:9-20
Many modern interpreters believe Mark ended his Gospel with verse 8. This
seems unlikely to some others since if he did he ended it with an example of
disciples too fearful and amazed to bear witness to the resurrected Jesus.
Throughout this Gospel we have noted many unique features that appeal to
disciples to serve God by bearing bold witness to Jesus, even in spite of
persecution and suffering. They believe the women’s example wou... 阅读全帖
l*******e
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来自主题: _BibleStudy版 - 我们来谈谈为什么要受洗的问题吧
我与discussing在"我来说说Bible Study"里的回复中谈了一些关于受洗的问题,我想
discussing是想了解更多这方面的内容,我不想我们的谈论被埋在另一个主题里,特别
是怕自己有些问题说得不对,因此开一个新的主题在这里。
我最开始的提问:
Could I ask a question? I hope to know do you have the opportunity to get
baptized? Do you know that is one of the most important thing in spiritial
life? If you understand we are sinner, and God is our only hope, I suggest
you get baptized first.
discussing的回复1:
Could you please help me to list sentences from Bible, as much as possible,
regarding to being baptized?
I
e****i
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: erkuai (三天不上bbs,赶得上刘少奇), 信区: Military
标 题: On the Jews and Their Lies, 1543
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 12 23:21:23 2011, 美东)
by Martin Luther (1483-1546)
Translated by Martin H. Bertram
copyright © 1971 Fortress Press & Augsburg Fortress - On the Jews and
Their Lies is from Luther’s Works Volume 47. Augsburg Fortress is the
publishing ministry of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Funded through sales revenue, Augsburg Fortress is called to provide
produ... 阅读全帖
e****i
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来自主题: Military版 - On the Jews and Their Lies, 1543
by Martin Luther (1483-1546)
Translated by Martin H. Bertram
copyright © 1971 Fortress Press & Augsburg Fortress - On the Jews and
Their Lies is from Luther’s Works Volume 47. Augsburg Fortress is the
publishing ministry of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Funded through sales revenue, Augsburg Fortress is called to provide
products and services that communicate the Gospel, enhance faith, and
enrich the life of the Christian community from a Lutheran perspective.
Part I
I had mad... 阅读全帖
d*******r
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Chinese Students Pushed to Find Jesus at U.S. Christian Schools
2011-12-20 21:00:01.0 GMT
By Daniel Golden
Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Haiying Wu’s family in Shandong
Province wasn’t religious. After a born-again Texan teaching
English in China advised her that Christian schools in the U.S.
are safe and academically strong, she enrolled at Ben Lippen
High School in Columbia, South Carolina.
Ben Lippen required her to attend church and chapel, take
Bible class, and join a Bible study group. ... 阅读全帖
d*2
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/catholic-group-demands-top-clinton-aide-resign-over-leaked-emails/ar-BBxjJ69?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
A top aide to Hillary Clinton is under fire from Catholic groups for remarks
she made in hacked emails published by Wikileaks, with one group calling on
Clinton's communications director Jennifer Palmieri to resign.
In an email exchange from 2011, senior fellow John Halpin at the progressive
think tank Center for American Progress sent an email to Palmier... 阅读全帖
j***e
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 真想打我儿子
i see many americans were baptized when they were baby, so they are 教徒. as
they grow up, most of people i get in touch think there is no jesus, but
they think they will go to heaven because they were baptized..
s*********5
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件) 与大家一起讨论如何在职场高竞争的环境中以信仰為中心来努力并有效地工作。这
是职场团契“信仰与工作”系列研讨会的首次专题Panel,题目是 “A Purpose-driven
Career”。聚会将会有中英双语。聚会的地点是在Grace Chinese School (5550
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邀请您的同事和朋友参加。為方便准备饭食,请发电邮给范明熙弟兄(mxfancbc2005@
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w***y
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Romans 6
Dead to Sin, Alive in Christ
1What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase
? 2By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3Or don't
you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized
into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into
death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the
glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
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来自主题: Belief版 - 板上有基督徒吗?
1. my point is in a fairview point, which is u guys think christian may go
to hell, and christian think they may go to heaven, the prob a christian
to go to hell is 50%. By the way, I don't care where we will be in the
end, I only care we are together.
2. for this question I couldn't give u a clear answer, since she baptized
pretty fast after we get married, only one month later. I never persuade
her anything, it is her own choice. I even don't know when she decide to
be baptized until the day s
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来自主题: Belief版 - 板上有基督徒吗?
1. my point is in a fairview point, which is u guys think christian may go
to hell, and christian think they may go to heaven, the prob a christian
to go to hell is 50%. By the way, I don't care where we will be in the
end, I only care we are together.
2. for this question I couldn't give u a clear answer, since she baptized
pretty fast after we get married, only one month later. I never persuade
her anything, it is her own choice. I even don't know when she decide to
be baptized until the day s
f***5
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来自主题: Belief版 - 板上有基督徒吗?
1. my point is in a fairview point, which is u guys think christian may go
to hell, and christian think they may go to heaven, the prob a christian to
go to hell is 50%. By the way, I don't care where we will be in the end, I
only care we are together.
2. for this question I couldn't give u a clear answer, since she baptized
pretty fast after we get married, only one month later. I never persuade her
anything, it is her own choice. I even don't know when she decide to be
baptized until the day s
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来自主题: Belief版 - 请教一个基督教的问题
Bible says "believe and baptize", which is supported by many
examples in the bible.
Of course you can baptize a person, but without believing,
baptism does not have the spiritual effect.
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Needless to say, we were quickly becoming very involved in investigating the
church. Many members of the ward were instrumental in our fellowship.
Brother Canon, who was the ward mission leader at the time, played a vital
role in helping us over come some trials.
And when the time came to be baptized, I said yes. I jumped up and smiled. "
Yes!" I knew then, that I had said no earlier for a reason. I knew that this
was right. A year later, we were sealed together in the Dallas Temple.
This leads ... 阅读全帖
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superfrankie (superman) 于 (Fri May 1 18:17:32 2009) 提到:
对于圣经的理解,需要多读读神学家的书。牧师只让你读圣经,那是他们懒得读释经书
,懒得思考。你读了,比他强了,他就没法做牧师了。
我以前去的是Evangenlical Free (属于信仰比较open的),每周都要去参加教会组织
的Bible Study。后来就不去了,原因很简单,pastor不喜欢doubt。在他看来,上帝就
是切实存在的,上帝就是某个客观体,而且还时常介入人间,甚至今天还介入人间作为
,(比如,举各种所谓的“见证”,什么不孕怀孩子了,病好了,他如何拿绿卡了什么
的)。感觉已经跟迷信没什么两样了。
所以,慢慢地我就怀疑上帝是否介入人间,上帝是否是一个客观体,天堂是否存在,上
帝是否存在,基督教的精髓到底是什么?
当然了,这些我后来都有了答案,而且感觉逻辑顺畅了,心情也舒适了,也没有挣扎了
。不过,这些我不能说,如果一下全说出来,对你也没有帮助。因为,这些都是需要体
悟的... 阅读全帖
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根据你提供的这个网站,说的很清楚的,在newfamily search上--就是我能上去的网站
,找不到的。
Some time in 1842, the prophet Joseph Smith introduced to The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a temple ceremony called Baptism for the
Dead, followed shortly by a full complement of salvific ordinances by proxy
for dead ancestors. But as these things often do, the original purpose of
the ordinances seemed to be forgotten by some members of the church and they
began trying to ‘redeem’ everyone they could identify. Since this was... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 云图 英文版
THE PACIFIC JOURNAL OF ADAM EWING
Thursday, 7th November—
Beyond the Indian hamlet, upon a forlorn strand, I happened on a trail of
recent footprints.
Through rotting kelp, sea cocoa-nuts & bamboo, the tracks led me to their
maker, a White man,
his trow-zers & Pea-jacket rolled up, sporting a kempt beard & an outsized
Beaver, shoveling
& sifting the cindery sand with a teaspoon so intently that he noticed me
only after I had hailed
him from ten yards away. Thus it was, I made the acquaintance of... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - myelsa 请进,我们接着说
myelsa的在另一个帖子,One Hundred Scriptural Arguments for a Unitarian,好像
有人对这个问题发表了回应
1. "马太28:19 分明是三位,为什么只用一个名?注意name用的是单数。Therefore
go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,"
其实原文更可能是“baptizing them in my name”. 见
http://apologista.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/in-the-name-of-the-father-and-the-son-and-the-oyly-spirit/

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