D*****A
发帖数: 551 | 1 昨天第一天到lax,当天晚上就奔去Bicycle。
那里面真够乱的，一进去全是排桌，蜥蜴，老头老太太满眼皆是。没有slot machine.
筹码可以在桌上现买，也可以提前买，特别随意。而且$1-2 NL max buyin 是80块钱。
所有筹码都是1块的。我觉得很傻。下注20已经一大堆了，所以有时候一个100块的Pot,
满桌子都是筹码。
我选了一个1-3的桌子，最高buyin120.
很背。
Hand 1.
我AK, Late Position.
EP raised $9.
EP+1 called.
fold, fold..
I raise to $29.
SB, BB folded.
EP called me $29. EP+1 folded.
Flop 7 K Q rainbow, so I have top pair and top kicker. I raised all in. he
called.
I have AK, he has Q5s.
Turn is a Q......
我觉得我打得没问题，但是运气不好。
Another hand:
Similar case,... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 2 Lost 3 mini-buyins last night at ring game RAZZ 50/100 with 10 ante
Anyone here plays RAZZ? Like to share some helping tips?
I played not many hands (I am trying to learn. not found lower table).
Except one unlucky hand (23456 beaten by 12345 at river with allin).
The others are not good play, or at least not commfy play.
Good thing is the loss is covered by PLO H/L 10/25. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 3 No, real money. It goes fast, 3 mini-buyin in half an hour.
But it is covered. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 4 Mini-buyin is $5 only. I did $6 thrice.
In FL/PL, it counts diff.ly |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 5 大牛们用的是那个版本啊，最高级的还是只是low buyin 的？
RUSH |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 6 Ok, I am clear.
That sounds. In that case any play with FTP loses rackback.
1) FTP SNG/MTT is even gain, no +EV
2) FTP takes the rackback on the FTP buyin.
sure,
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STILL
which |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 the result is just sick.
But hard to find the game now, even the buyin is as low as 20$. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 这个月经历了打牌以来最大的downswing 12 buy in in 2 days,然后在以后3 天里在小
幅反弹回6个buyin 后又第2次探底到15个buy in down over all. 这是我今年300k+ 手
牌后最大的downswing. 以前最多只有4 buy in down,也是屈指可数..
我当时觉得这个月几乎是不可能赢利了, 只希望可以报住平局, 同时在downswing 中找
到几个leak 来fix. 几个preflop 3 bet/4 bet 中的致命leak, 我很快就意识到了(虽
然downswing 不全是这些leak 造成的), 也有意fix 了一下.
终于经过艰难爬坡差不多爬上最高坡, 这个月也突破重重困难, 盈利+rakeback, 接近1
千.. 自觉是一个小奇迹..
有图有真相,今年战绩. see the big double dip in the end...... |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 9 This downswing is not huge. I have 20 buyin downswings in one day, and it is
regular game. Yeah, it is my bad, get tilted later on.
Usually, the more aggressive you are, the high likely the variance is.
Not a big deal though.
手
近1 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 10 This matches what's written in the "most expensive" poker book. In low to mi
d buyin games, always over shove your nuts because people will call them wit
hout any problem. so probably you should fold to overbet more often, too.
This
is so exploitable. |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 11 10个buy-in去200是有点under roll，真要认真打， 弄个50个buyin 去试试看吧，估计
要做好big variance的准备
。
HUD |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 12 名字已由投票选出。 通俗易懂。
比赛时间：每周5晚上6点准时开打，目前每次参加活动的人数基本在15到20人之间（两
桌）。
比赛地点：基本上在boston附近，melrose 和 revere
比赛形式：目前是table game，10NL（今后人再多可以玩tournament，或者调整买入级
别等）
气氛轻松，热情高涨，水很深，风格各异
我们的招牌 黎叔 在第一次活动经历了3个buyin的loss之后，本周大获全胜。
请版主帮忙置顶， 欢迎任何boston地区的poker爱好者加入。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 13 I arrange those tables by "tile tables". And I put those games which need
highlight on the left side. It means that the games on my top-left are more
important.
What are the highlight tables?
a. Satellite ending games
b. Deep MTTs
c. SNG final tables
d. high buyin games
Use HUD, such as HEM. |
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p******e
发帖数: 327 | 14 心态很重要。
我当初很多MTT花了好几个钟头，最后无数次被bad beat，心情太遭，然后就tilt，就
更loose play, 输的更惨。
后来心态稍微好一点点，也稍微lucky一点了，一次daily dollor打到第8，还有一次$3
buyin 8000ppl打到第3。
其他比赛基本打水漂，我可是每天基本都玩3-5个tourney, 这样算下来时间花不少，开
销还真不小，赢的又太少。。。
我心态又开始不好了。。。真不想quit poker啊。。。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 15 Do not make fun of me. I am just a little fish. Hopefully I can some 1k$
buyin tourneys later on. |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 16 10k buyin包括大概6%的fee。第一名拿13%，对于massive MTT来说还好了.sunday
million也就是16%~18%的样子。 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 17 我一直是这样，基本是坐下之后先挖1 buyin的坑然后慢慢填...FTP还非常给力的经常
给我QQ或者AK这样吸引我进去的东西...没地方说理了。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 18 I think your skill is good, but you can not Multi-tabling, that is a big
issue. If you can solve that, you can full time it.
当时就是突发奇想，那些在美国经常打牌的外国人都用的什么visa ------ that is
huge buyins, I do not consider it at all. Plus, we do not have any edge on
those fields. |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 19 i mean main event, coz the buyin is 10000.
maybe a more reasonable way is the player take 20%
and the rest is divided between the back ups?
paying |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 20 all of them are, if buyin is higher than 200$.
Just like WSOP have many events. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 21 comfort. Last Saturday, just as I was ready to move up to NL100. Got 4 buyin
below EV downswing. Just moved back to NL50 to grind the money back =( |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 Me 2. Have some big downswings, have to lower the stake and grind the way up
again.
buyin |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 23 see. 这两天tilt太严重。其实到现在FTP还欠我10个buyin呢... |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 24 肯定啊，cms91赢了一个sunday million，他lp就赶紧没收奖金，生怕他输回去，换成
aggresive的或许就用这钱作为本钱，去打5/10 or higher level了，或者天天打几百
buyin的mtt |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 25 没，尝试multitable中
昨天一个session +4 buyin, 第二个session输回去了...well, variance... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 26 Take it easy man.. When i was downswinging last month, i think it really
helped when I told myself not to push too hard. Just look at all the
money you have won the whole year. Relax, enjoy the game and try to improve
it. You will get better... The money is always there to be made as long as
the donk/fish are out there.
after the 15 buyin downswing, 我的心态好了很多.. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 (续上)
到poker room后，先看有没有waiting list，把自己的initial注册上，然后等。
1/2NL一般的min-buyin是$60，max是$300，你可以随意。一般1/2NL只用到$1或者$5的
筹码，你买比如$200 $5的红筹码就行了。
坐下来第一把，看你的位置和赌场规矩，有些要求你第一把要post $2，dealer会问你"
post or wait?"，如果你看big blind离你的位置很近了，可以等2把，没有必要第一把
就玩。
如果只是call，你放个$5的筹码进去就行，dealer会等preflop action结束以后，把$3
退还给你。
短时间出去休息，筹码可以留在桌子上，但如果超过比如半个小时，可能floor
manager(简称floor)会来把你的筹码取走，然后你的座位取消，你得到他那拿筹码，重
新注册。
如果休息回来，发现miss了SB和BB，你需要post才能重新游戏，除非你等到下一圈轮到
你BB时。
差点忘了，小费问题，这个是网上和home game没有的，如果你赢了一把，留点筹码在
中间或者递给dealer。数量看pot大小情况... 阅读全帖 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 28 10M HKD to sit down, and we call $200k buyin games "high stakes poker"...
ante直接0.5bb，这比HSP还凶... |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 29 Those Chinese business men were insane.
How many money they have to play game this big?
一般的煤老板和贪官都没有这个身家吧？buyin 都要三四千万港元（5，6 美元）。
TNND，这样下去 Dwan 要常驻澳门了。打过这样的 Stake， 其他的 high stake 都太
小了
下次估计 patrick 都要去了。呵呵。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 30 从free 到micro 到medium 到large buyin
不同level的注意事项
自身风格的转变
以及bso下自己的成就
谢谢 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 31 When I first play on FTP. I deposit 400$. The first game I played is the
Main Event Satellite(200$ buyin), quickly busted.
Then, play several 100 chips super super turbo satellite. That 400$ almost
goes away in just one day. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 32 I just had one 8 buyins swing yesterday as well. It's only NL100... If it's
NL 400, I definitely cant handle the swings. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 其实就一心态.. 把bank roll 当play money. 有钱就升级, 没钱就降级. 又不靠这吃
饭... 第一次我NL100 down swing 15 buyin.. 我也觉得自己肯定承受不了再高的级别
.. 不过想通了就好... 现在问题还是升不升得上去..
s |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 34 也是，我上星期25 buyin的swing都熬过来了现在不是一样活蹦乱跳... |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 35 Comfort.我也觉得２／５ Skill level is not much higher than 1/2. People there
still make all kinds of mistakes. But I don't really feel comfortable play
that much money, which affects my decisions. Passive poker cant be winning
strategies.
When I play online, 3 buyins swing a day is nothing for me. But I don't
think I can be okay with losing $1500 live in one day. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 36 fcf 老大，我一般 buy-in 2/5 会在 40 bb - 50 bb 左右。 同样的筹码 1/2 就在
100bb。
40bb-50bb 似乎在我的 comfort zone， 我起手牌敢看一些 KQs，AJ 之类的牌，人多
一些的话会玩一些中等的 suited connector。
我一般不会打 30bb 左右的 short-stack。那天你看到我玩 70 快左右，是已经给打下
来的钱。因为觉得运气不好，没有 re-buy。short-stack 我缺乏耐心和时机的把握，
有一个 top pair 就 all-in。
2/5 full buyin 对我来说太大了。
请问什么样的 stack size 比较适合 2/5？ 对于 40-50bb 来说，怎么样的打法为最佳
？ 想听听您的建议。
， |
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 37 Poker has no memory, you lost 80bb should have no effect to your decision at
this time. Also, the goal really shouldn't be trying to get that 80bb back
, it should be try to play your next hand as well as you possibly could.
since you started the table with 100bb, I would assume that you believed
that was the best stack size for you to start, unless something on the table
changed your opinion, you should probably reload back to 100bb and try to
continue to play every hand well.
by the way, lo... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 38 fryking is right.
I play 20$, 35$ dollar super turbos. They has great value in it. Definitely,
I play 50$ super turbos regularly sometimes. Sometimes, I go nuts, and play
200$, 500$ games, but just a couple here and there.
It is not just shoving preflop, you need play postflop. Because it is super
turbo, I will have a lot of Out of Position plays also. In regular HU sng, it is not profitable to play OOP.
Usually, the ROI is very small, pay attention to it.(for example, your average profit for on... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 39 From my experience, if you feel good, you can go directly to 50$ ones.
Grinding there, and if you can win 30 buyin, in our case, it is 1500$. After
that, then considering of moving to 100$ ones.
As I shown before, I do have 5000$ winnings mainly on 35$ games with ID=
pokeryjj.
But my MaJa does not run well, at 700 games, it has 900$ profit, then it
dwindles to 0$ profit when it reaches 1100 games. Then I stop playing with
that Maja. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 40 Those Sng stuff is all about the volume. If you get the volume, you get the
profit seriously.
Imo, the easiest way to get volume is super turbo.
I will grind in the 50$ level for some time. if I can win at least 100 buyin
, and get around 4% ROI, then I will consider about moving up to $100 level.
it |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 41
well.
some many 10k BUYIN tournaments. At that time, not a lot of player knows how
to play the tourney. He apparently knows how to win the game. He deserves
the respect even by this aspect "He is way ahead of other players at his
time" only.
LOL. Once Phil Hellmuth's sat same table in LAPC with Phil Ivey. Hellmth
asked if Ivey have ever played golf with Tiger wood. Ivey said he is really
bad at golf and ever have a chance to play with Tiger. Hellumth said" But
you are playing Holdem with me"... 阅读全帖 |
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 42 前几天去了一趟大西洋赌城(AC)， 这是美国东部的一个赌城，虽然是排全美第2的赌城
， 但比拉斯维加斯实在不是一个档次的。 这次去主要是跟另外一个论坛的一些朋友聚
一下。我们住在Borgata hotel， 是AC最好的赌场， 这里的poker room 是美国东部最
大的， 而且它跟其它赌场不是建在一起的，所以我们一群赌徒几天基本就没离开酒店。
凑巧的是我在一个桌子上打牌时还遇到一个北京来的年轻人， 现在住纽约，他告诉我
他主要是打现场比赛的，那天他刚在一个1k buyin的比赛里拿了第9. 不过他并不在
online打的，要不他应该可以和nicky 多交流交流。凑巧的是他的一个朋友是一天论坛
里的田品吕口，第二天他才知道我是fcf， 然后还专门跑来找我聊了聊。去赌场打牌说
实话对我来说没有太多吸引力，不过见见原来只在论坛上交流的朋友还是很好的。
到旅馆后，放下行李，因为还有些朋友要一起吃饭在路上，就跑去了楼下的扑克室打牌
，先是去了5/10的桌子看看， floor 把我带到了一个只有两个人的桌子，我一看高兴
了， 桌上人越少对我越有利， 那桌上的另外两个应该都是borgata 的... 阅读全帖 |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 43 Won 5, lost 3. Only up two buyins...
He played maniac style. Sometimes, just have to pay him off when he hit some
unexpected hand. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 44 Not much diff. from MTT except you play tigher andsurely much more hands. It finishes a little sooner(1/2 hours).
Buyin $3 and 32K Guarantee finishes in 8/9hours. It would take 10/11hours OW.
If you play RUSH NL, then you are more adapted to this. That is the most advtg. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 45 isn't that crazy, is it?
that is why i said i almost brain dead after playing so. many hands.
down 3.5 buyin when holdem manager showed i should be up 178 dollars after
all thosr hands. that just showed that 1. i was almost card dead. since
even 178 winning is small number for the hand i played. 2. i got fxxked left
and right by ftp bad beats. really frustrated.
windstorm, you should take a break too. playing so many hours really taxing
your body and mind. the bonus kind overrated because it... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 46 up 3.x buyins too.. but it's just NL25.. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 47 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 上来哭一哭 哎所以这就是低级别惹得祸 低级别上无脑驴们的宽shove range造就了我无脑地shove
我的kk。
因为赢了一个16刀 buyin的 小mtt，让我直接跳到50nl 6max，计划前20k tighten
range and gether info，但发现玩牌的时候心理上还不是那么comfortable，any
advice?
ps 请教在什么stack size下面，fold to headsup, shove kk 才算ok |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 48 会有minimum的，到不了minimum比赛取消buyin+fee退还。 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 49 poonking is a regular short stacker. I never saw him playing over $50 on the
table.
when he 4-bet , you are mostly behind with JJs. Stay true for most $40 min
buyin regulars. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 50 lol.
I am thinking the exact way. Their 2X ftp point is not attractive at all.
But with 3X or 4X, it will definitely attract me to play at FTP only.
In that case, I will chance my main game significantly. I will play super
turbo HU sng, super turbo 6man sng only.
The question left is whether I can get 1500 FTP points per day, I guess it
is possible, if I play 4 table of 20$ buyin super turbo 6man sng, I will get
around 180 FTP points per hour.
Another question left is what kind of stuff I can pu... 阅读全帖 |
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