s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 1 I play Rush PLO10 (sometimes PLO25). It is ok for FTP points and small $.
Play PLO Tourney, it is very tough. Limpin/raise and not sure to call re-raise or not. If call, hard to tell to call CBet or not. Position is more important
since of more scaring board/combination |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 2 stack? 对方是nit还是lag?
fold is kinda weak unless he is very tight and don't cbet a ;lot |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 3 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 请高手指点 If you eliminate all the leaks shown in Leakbuster. I think you're at least
5bb-10bb/100 winning player.
Easy ones to fix is VPIP, pfr, fold to 3 bet percentage, Cbet percentage ... |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 4 micro stake，6 max，通常怎么对付一个 60/8 的对手
他的hm status兴奋地泛着绿光
我基本上是25/18 + cbet（flop and sometimes turn） + 烧香保佑他撞不着
问高手们有没有什么特别的方法以及任何提醒 谢谢 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 5 stack size?相对位置？flop cbet不能乱来，有位置的话可以，没位置的话miss了就
check看情况。另外：泛绿的stat不一定代表人烂...看看sample size，小于20的话什
么都说明不了，>100才有参考价值。 |
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t*****s
发帖数: 1240 | 6 value bet, never cbet as bluff.
60/8 is typical loose/passive and don't want to fold. |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 7 KING真是又专业又nice ah。that is pretty much it for cash game. my 2cents
for tournament, depends on opponent and stage of tourney, in early
stage when everyone is deep, I tend to call with big implied odds.
in late stage when stack-pot ratio is small, check-raise cbet all in as
semi-bluff is fine.
同。
flush
draw要
情况，
raise，
hit了有
牌，你 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 8 前几天向各位求教如何应对62/28，昨晚碰到一位从我加入到他离开98/40的，估计那个
2%是他去上厕所了
6max 10NL， 每把没牌2x到4xpf，有牌6xpf，然后3barrel at least half pot cbet
额第神 我按奈不住 上手一把tptk 送给他100bb （runner runner q7 fullhouse） 然
后tilt的我 AKs 裸bet 又送他50bb by bottom pair 合着之前其他几位送他的厚礼
450bb赫然摆在他面前
然后我非常乖的坐在那里等啊等 终于没多久用qq 擒擒纵纵 b他就范 还我100bb 然后
继续等啊等 可惜没等到我媳妇熬成婆 他就已经撑不住了 |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 9 I don't like the idea of limping in unopened pots. Unless you want to limp
and reraise. If you limp, your range is so transparent. It's standard for
later position to raise 4-5xbb to isolate you. Now you have to actually pay
more to see the flop if you raised yourself. Most time, you probably gonna
fold to a flop Cbet. It's just -EV play. Even you make a set, it's pretty
hard to stack a good player out of position. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 10 I don't agree. My monster hand get called three streets far less in NL100.
Cbet get called more often in NL 100 for sure. People float more there. But
my river value bet in NL100 got called much less often base on my experience
. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 11 flop check to pot control and induce bluff
Not many worse hands would call my Cbet. I either get bluff raise or value
call, value raise.
played
could |
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l*****r
发帖数: 2123 | 12 Just won another big pot. EP LAG limp in, LP TAG raised $11, I Called with
QsTs in CO. EP Called. Flop QdTd4h. EP check , LP Cbet $25, I raised to $75
, EP all in with $160, LP folded. I called. He missed flush draw. |
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l*****r
发帖数: 2123 | 13 LAG called my AsQs MP In his EP HU. Flop 7s8s2c. I Cbet $15 he called. Turn
7c. I bet $40 He called. River 8c. He check I bet $55. He called with AcJC
. My bad |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 14 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 上来哭一哭 patpat, it is pain and reminds me of my unluck at the MTT last time.
But what do you do diffly? Fold?
Call? If you call, you have over pair on the flop. Are you to fold to Cbet? |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 15 第二把漂亮。第一把要是我是那个人我可能会flop cbet。
RAISE
的。 |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 16 生平第一次live game (boston 的family game实在不能算，limit太低，当百家乐玩的
）贡献给了vegas。 只能说，holiday实在是玩poker的天堂啊， 有人说，如果你在30
分钟之内找不到桌上的鱼，你就是鱼，那么如果在30分钟内找不到桌上哪个不是鱼的，
估计大家都要笑歪嘴了。
总共打了3个session，加起来10多个小时吧，在rio和harrah's玩的。 运气不错(只给
river了3次），赢了1500+， 玩的是1/2，1/3桌子。 具体的牌就不说了，我这个人不
记牌，但是可以给大家分享点自己的心得（warning，这个只适用于玩live against
fish，用到online就是找死）
1. fish有2种， 80% Loose passive，他们喜欢看pot，有一点点牌就喜欢跟下去,只要
你的bet别太大（比如overbet）， preflop有broadway，88+ 就raise吧，但是如果2个
high card， flop miss你就check，他们会让你免费看，千万不要bluff，哪怕是cbet
with nothing都... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 c-bet is standard.
but you could mix up too by checking here. some ppl like BB will be
supicious that you're stealing preflop, so they might mix up by check
calling or raising here with weak hands or air. so to counter fight this,
you can "pot control" too in some cases. if an A or K falls on the turn/
river, you might get good value from over played Ax or Kx from BB. even both
of you miss, AK still has showdown value.
another case, even you hit your A or K on the flop, you should delay c-
betti... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 18 i guess we shouldn't worry about the limp guy too much. It's really rare
that he has a monster while SB 3bets and I'm holding one A and one K.
I like to see flop with tight players. Although they won't pay off big, the
success rate of bluff is pretty high. The best flop is one high card two low
cards, or some draw heavy texture. I don't like all low cards because they
often have a pocket pair and could call my cbet. Perhaps I need to fire more
on turn/river..
...
show up with AQ- JJ- |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 19 where is the flop? you folded pre.
I like to see flop with tight players. Although they won't pay off big, the
success rate of bluff is pretty high. The best flop is one high card two low
cards, or some draw heavy texture. I don't like all low cards because they
often have a pocket pair and could call my cbet. Perhaps I need to fire more
on turn/river.. |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 20
heads
.
he has monster draw, if he is good, he will raise your non-allin flop bet,
so
no difference, btw, your preflop 3bet seems too small,
Botton
turn
yah, cbet in this situation is a must
bucks
flop is so wet, you should at least bet pot
seems your 3bet range is KK+, AK, too tight le... |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 21 我和fcf打HU，他从来不fold我的3-bet
对我flop后的cbet也是80% float
郁闷
下,
那"
, |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 22 They're actually two different questions. EV only tells you if FTP is fair
after you go allin.
Consider you have TT and villain has QQ. flop is T62, you cbet he raises
then you reraise, he calls. turn is Q you bet strong and he raises you allin
. Of course you call and could not curse FTP more. If FTP does this to you
everytime, there's some problem. But your EV will be perfect math wise.
However FTP only gains a bit more rake when creating big pots. Really not
enough incentive.
you |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 23 It's not really bad. It's just one raise and one Cbet to deal with the 12
dollars/hour. Standard preflop raise is 5-9 BB. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 24 In headsup, nobody give much credit to 3bet and 3bet's Cbet if your 3bet% is
around 20%.
A lot of time, you still need to shutdown without hitting flop. |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 25 how many times you cbet flop, and check turn, then lp guy lead with a solid
bet?
that's why I some times check turn with strong hand |
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 26 这条line行不行？+ev不？
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1136378
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
UTG: $34.79
CO: $26.00
Hero (BTN): $21.95
SB: $26.47
BB: $25.00
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Qh Jd
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.60) 3h 8c 8d (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.75, Hero raises to $5.50, BB calls
$2.75
Turn: ($12.60) 2s (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15.70 all in,... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 28 high-variance play to represent overpair. BB most likely does not have 8.
But very likely has small pair (if just two over cards, he beats you also). The
only way to take pot is bluff, which you did and get it well with here. |
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 29 thx. that's what happened. do u think it's +ev or -ev?
+var of course.
. The |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 31 I hate rakes ...
If this line is +ev, which is likely, rake might kill it ... |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 32 At this level, when people min-raise your cbet, do they usually hit a big
hand or just bluff?
We're supposed to respect min-raise but I doubt they're really stronger than
a typical 2.5x raise. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 33 I usually cbet more on this kind of flop, 70-80%. Turn I'll definitely bet
strong because I put him on draw. At river, I think I have him beat (draw,
T9, Js, QJ kind of hand). I will bet small to extract any possible value,
like 20% of pot. If he raise, I call.
and |
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s********0
发帖数: 4 | 34 call, river complete，flush check/call or bet/fold,K fullhouse bet/call,
incomplete,check/fold,villian能赢你的range中有一些top range，所以villian的
3bet range很重要，vpip也是一个衡量标准，还有fold to cbet，agg也能看看不过不
太重要，这几个数据可以用来衡量下villian的range，数据不极端的话一般call都是可
以的，我觉得一般pro来玩这种low stake打法都比较standard |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 35 lol, he tried to represent AA and dare not to bluff/CBet on flop.
He has JJ~99, I guess. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 36 I just played NL50 for one session, and think it's more aggressive than NL25
. At NL25 people don't bluff that often, so if someone check-raise your cbet
, or bet big on river, usually he has a hand. But I doubt it's the case at
NL50.
So maybe shifting towards calling station works better at higher level. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 play another 10K hands, hehe.
NL25 and 50 are not much different at all. a (donk or not) player who can
afford to play 25NL can surely play 50NL (at least for a while). 100NL has
more serious money because a donk's $500 would not go far.
many times i was so amazed to see what they had, after i made a "tough"
decision.
NL25
cbet |
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r*********l
发帖数: 65 | 38 one guy earlier in the tourney bluffed me with nothing and i showed him a
set. later on i raised utg with JJ, he called, flop is JA8, i cbet 25% of
the pot he called, turn is J, i checked, he min bet, i called, river i bet
half the pot, he folds. his stats 71/7/1.1. how come the trap didnt work?
where did i go wrong? |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 39 Not sure. I only have 500 hands with him. He never 4 bet in these 500 hands.
His fold to Cbet is 90% in my database, which indicating that he is a nit. |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 40 winstormm 来给分析一下
我也疑惑，感觉cash game，3bet out of position不是特别有效。尤其是no pair
high face card. 100+bb的话，flop出来，人家利用位置还是可以float你，3bet+cbet
一共25bb左右。如果没hit上flop很难打。
这手牌我觉得对手有Kx spades 或者KJ
3bet |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 41 其实作为3bet out of position， 我并不怕任何flop，因为我个人的3bet range就是
qq+ 加上ako+ 和少许杂牌，不管flop low cards也好 face cards也好 或者xyy，我基
本上都会cbet flop， 然而被call或者raise了之后 就有点尴尬，总是不能很
comfortably的玩好，望指点 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 42 这牌一亮大家乐了，果然是AK诈唬cbet，下次接着推。。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 43
(
迷惘了。。。
pf: 20/16 正负1
大多数情况下
77+ pfr in position or limp/cold call
22～66 limp or cold call(sometimes)
small SC(67~TJ) pfr to steal or fold（mostly） or cold call/limp(rarely)
Axs、JQs+、KJs+ pfr to steal and fold in rest cases
pf 3bet range:
jj+、AQs+（mostly fold to 4bet）、AKo
4bet range：QQ+ and some AKo oop
flop cbet > 2/3 if heads up, slightly > 1/3 if more ppl in
turn：honest in most cases
river： want to show down 25%， won money at show down 45%
对数据显示比较紧的 可能稍许多点2nd barrel和pf steal 但是fold to rerais... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 44 Too few post here now. Let's do some PROB tests.
I have two below. Whoever asks correctly (vote by others, I do not have the
correct answer) gets baozi.
1) MTT, Avg Chip=25BB (middle stage). You raise with high cards and one
caller at position calls with low pair.
On turn, all low cards (ten below; no pair; flop, you cbet and villian calls
). What is the PROB the villian hits set already on turn?
2) MTT, final table, 5 left, Avg chip=35BB
You raise 2.3BB w/ AKs at BTN and BB 2.4x. You wondering ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 45 1) flop a set+ == 12%, say the probability of his giving up flop cbet is x%,
then the prob that he has set on turn P = 12% + (1-12%)*(1-x%)*2/45
if x == 50, p = 14%, if x == 0, p = 16%, if x == 33, p = 14.6%
2)假设bb 3bet against btn steal range 是ATs AJs KQs AQ AK and 99+,以及非常少
的air（忽略不计）， 减去你block的A和K，一共3（ATs）+3（AJs）+3（KQs）+12（AQ
）+9(AK)+6*4(99~QQ)+3(KK)+3(AA)＝60手
AA三手，所以我猜他有AA的概率是3/60大约5%，完全取决于BB的range。
请指正 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 46
action,
i
preflop $
flush
sure he's not going anywhere, but the problem is that he acts AFTER us.
He could be thinking TPTK is good against the LAG but not hero. To me
it's more like he's scared by the flush flop as well. If we call I don't
see him coming in.
Agree with ATs
comment though. it's live, and ANY club would stay imo. Unless a T hits,
we are never good.
On another thought...what about open to $7~$10 pre? sure you'll get
called
by many ppl, but if someone 3bets it's easy to let go, a... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 47 at one Poker After Dark, three handed, two limpin and Chen at BB raise ~3BB.
Flop 6JJ. All check on flop, and turn (blank). River is blank also. SB bet
1/2- pot. Chen fold and btn fold. SB has 66.
It is hard to say where the implied odd stands. Chen even did not CBet there
. And fold on river without any hesitation. |
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l*****r
发帖数: 2123 | 48 1/2 live， 我有280在button 拿22， SB是个非常loose的家伙， 几乎每把都raise，
cbet 也很多， 他有400多， limp in到SB， 他raise到7， MP call， LP call ， 我
call。 flop 2， 8， 9， rainbow。 SB， MP check。 LP bet 20， 我call， SB
raise 40. LP call。 （这个家伙也很loose， 经常偷， 是个长期输家, 他现在还剩
大约100）， 我现在怎么办比较好？ call, raise or all-in? |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 49 朋友 你的数据能晒一下么 输赢倒是其次 我很好奇你的vpip pfr af 以及 cbet rate
还有 3bet 4bet的数据 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 50 I agree with livb's analysis. He should not worry about Minyh much since if
Miny had a set or AQ, he would raised that pot with such a draw heavy board
and multi way pot.
Matt would not call preflop raise with Q7, so his shoving range either AQ
, set 7s, which crush Phil's hand, also could be a combo draw/pair with
flush draw, so his a7 is actually under ranged at that spot. Also, he is
confident that he can get in with better spot since he is a better player,as
you said.
It was too late ... 阅读全帖 |
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