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c**2
发帖数: 8496
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来自主题: EB23版 - [合集] 请问关于结婚绿卡
Some comments above are wrong. If your spouse is US citizen or GC holder,
you can NOT cross charge your visa number to his/her country of birth.
cross chargeability applies when spouse is to get GC with you in your
category, and because GC holder or US born person does not (and cannot) get
GC with you, your visa number can only charge to your own birth country
quota but not spouse's.
I****8
发帖数: 988
2
我被interview过,过程和这个相似,这个是一个老印论坛上看到了,贴在下面:
Just came back from the AOS interview that lasted just under 10 minutes.
Officer said that he will approve the applications as soon as visa numbers
are available come October. As of now there are no visa numbers as far as he
knows. Those who want to read just the summary can scroll down and just
read the summary.. rest ..Keep on reading.
Here is the complete experience -
We(Me and my wife and kid) reached the Local Office at San Jose half an hour
before t... 阅读全帖
r**********s
发帖数: 233
3
来自主题: EB23版 - VB 出了~~
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
CHINA- mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 15FEB08 01SEP04 C C
3rd 01MAY07 22JAN07 22NOV02 01MAY07 01SEP06
H******i
发帖数: 4704
4
来自主题: EB23版 - 今天又问了奥本
今天又问了奥本,这厮制定排期的时候并没有NYssgg(ssgg)对法律精神吃得那么透,这
厮只要不犯大错误,小小误差反正没有人管。我问得无比直接,他也回答得无比直接。
这厮今天的原话是:Any “unused” numbers are made available strictly in
priority date order without any regard to the applicant’s place of birth.
Any unused EB1 numbers which fall to EB2 would be available for use by any
country. If there were 100 extra numbers, and the 100 earliest priority
dates represented applicants from a single county, they get them.
此事暂时没有中国人的组织和其他中国人能够系统地和奥本斡旋,我认为NYssgg(ssgg)
的看法是对的,但是法律永远有灰色地带,... 阅读全帖
l**7
发帖数: 3940
5
Cross-chargeability 必须在你们申请材料第一页第一行必须大字写上 否则cis才不会
帮你处处着想呢 你再file一遍吧

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
b******7
发帖数: 8200
6
这个不是老印的了吧。我看叫落地生恨很符合这里人的素质。
http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5953.html
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
CHINA- mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 15JUL08 01SEP04 C C
3rd 01SEP08 01SEP08 08JAN03 01SEP08 22SEP06
Other Workers 01SEP08 22OCT03 08JAN03 01SEP08 22SEP06
4th C C C C C
Certain Religious Workers C ... 阅读全帖
d********g
发帖数: 10550
7
我听说的是可以这样,只要你们485一起递的。什么独立申请的就别信了,要分开递485
那是坑爹的
s*****o
发帖数: 49
8
是不是跟一般的EB2一样,该怎么申请怎么申请,只是140批了以后,交485的时候写个
说明就行了,是吧?
w******7
发帖数: 445
9
你们这种140、485一起交的,应该去talent版,或者华人。我们这里都是等了n年的苦
逼们,对你这种走捷径的表示不满
C********e
发帖数: 841
10

证拿卡比谁都快
s*****o
发帖数: 49
11
我还早呢,今年H1B抽签没中,明年先拿个H1B再说了。
k*****c
发帖数: 1670
12
来自主题: EB23版 - August VB is out. EB2C does not move
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
CHINA- mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 08AUG08 01JAN08 C C
3rd 01JAN09 01JAN09 22JAN03 01JAN09 22OCT06
j*e
发帖数: 1987
13
来自主题: EB23版 - 怎样才能驳倒这篇文章?
"Where do the additional 12,000 EB2 numbers go?
By law, the extra 12,000 EB2 numbers are made available to the entire world
in priority date order. INA 203(e). And they are allocated without regard
to country of chargeability. "
这句话就有问题,203(e)是general rule,并没有针对SO来说,把general rule套用到
SO那是属于乱套用法律。我们认为严格的PD顺序并不存在,因为ROW PD晚得多,却能插
队到前面,所以立法者的原意是PD与国别相结合的分配方案。
在中印reach 7% limit之后,严格的PD顺序被打破,ROW开始插队,既然这时候严格PD
顺序已经不存在,说明203(e)并不适用之后的情况。
我们的观点是SO分配方案法律并无明确规定,这时就应该从立法者原意(congrational
intent)出发,应该按照整部移民法... 阅读全帖
C********e
发帖数: 841
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来自主题: EB23版 - 如果eb3c持续比eb2c快
SB - chargeability is in terms of alternate birth nation, 大陆的是除了会算就
是会妄想了,还family用,真叫会起个说法
N*********L
发帖数: 517
15
NIU EB2C 剩余名额分配项目组现将一周以来的工作进展向大家做一个汇报:
1. NIU 已经向 Li 律师所在的律师事务所递交了请求 pro bono 帮助的申请。目前正
在等待该律师事务所的批准。与此同时,项目组长 Franklin 与 Li 律师就起诉的细节
问题进行了讨论。我们起诉的主要观点是:
a. 目前 DOS 执行执行中印捆绑政策是剩余名额的分配不区分国别仅按照排期前后分配
:“Such numbers must be provided strictly in applicant priority date order
regardless of chargeability.”在移民法中唯一说明绿卡发放顺序的章节是203(e)(1
) “Order of Consideration. - (1) Immigrant visas made available under
subsection (a) [指家庭移民] or (b) [指职业移民] shall be issued to eligible
immigrants in the order in which a ... 阅读全帖
N*********L
发帖数: 517
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NIU EB2C 剩余名额分配项目组现将一周以来的工作进展向大家做一个汇报:
1. NIU 已经向 Li 律师所在的律师事务所递交了请求 pro bono 帮助的申请。目前正
在等待该律师事务所的批准。与此同时,项目组长 Franklin 与 Li 律师就起诉的细节
问题进行了讨论。我们起诉的主要观点是:
a. 目前 DOS 执行执行中印捆绑政策是剩余名额的分配不区分国别仅按照排期前后分配
:“Such numbers must be provided strictly in applicant priority date order
regardless of chargeability.”在移民法中唯一说明绿卡发放顺序的章节是203(e)(
1
) “Order of Consideration. - (1) Immigrant visas made available under
subsection (a) [指家庭移民] or (b) [指职业移民] shall be issued to eligible
immigrants in the order in which a... 阅读全帖
K*******9
发帖数: 297
17
um...I am probably not as smart as you are...but based on the visa bulletin,
ROW are 'All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed (China Mex Phil India'.
j***e
发帖数: 2428
18
来自主题: EB23版 - VB out
http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_6211.html
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
CHINA- mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st
C
C
C
C
C
2nd
C
08NOV08 15NOV04
C
C
3rd
01OCT11
01OCT11
01SEP03
01OCT11
08JAN07
f**u
发帖数: 2769
19
系统里面单独列,那是因为有些人出生时候的“中华人民共和国”作为一个国家还没成
立呢。你要是仔细看,跟中国大陆这个chargeability有关的还有一堆“满洲国”什么
的,你听说过中国东北出生的中国老人不需要排期吗?
f**u
发帖数: 2769
20
那是因为人家被认为受到迫害(暂不评论是不是真的),和法轮功一样。这和承认不承
认是不是一个国家有关系吗?
Rules for Chargeability 你如果想系统学习可以看一下 DOS 的 9 FAM 42.12。
f**u
发帖数: 2769
21
我已经贴出了chargeability的定义了。你不信就算了。
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY12AnnualReport-TableV-PartIII
里面也没有西藏,但是有港澳台。
p*********n
发帖数: 288
22
来自主题: EB23版 - 律师说可以降级不用perm
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/EB23/31962769_0.html
chargeable是对的。
但是你们都以为amendment是取消旧申请了,实际上是应对两个不同的情况。
t*******e
发帖数: 1511
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来自主题: EB23版 - Do Not Approve EB2 Downgrade -zt
Hi!
I just signed the petition "USCIS: Do Not Approve EB2 Downgrade To EB3
Without New PERM" on Change.org.
It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:
https://www.change.org/petitions/uscis-do-not-approve-eb2-downgrade-to-eb3-
without-new-perm
Thanks!
xxxx
USCIS: Do Not Approve EB2 Downgrade To EB3 Without New PERM
Petition by
EB3C Against Downgrade Without PERM
The undersigned are beneficiaries of employment-based immigration, third
preference (“EB3”). We are waiting for our prior... 阅读全帖
t*******e
发帖数: 1511
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来自主题: EB23版 - Do Not Approve EB2 Downgrade -zt
Hi!
I just signed the petition "USCIS: Do Not Approve EB2 Downgrade To EB3
Without New PERM" on Change.org.
It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:
http://goo.gl/w2cI9r
or
https://www.change.org/petitions/uscis-do-not-approve-eb2-downgrade-to-eb3-
without-new-perm
Thanks!
xxxx
USCIS: Do Not Approve EB2 Downgrade To EB3 Without New PERM
Petition by
EB3C Against Downgrade Without PERM
The undersigned are beneficiaries of employment-based immigration, third
preference (“EB3”). We a... 阅读全帖
c*****4
发帖数: 1777
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摘要
1、律师说可以降级;AILA说USCIS接受基于旧的EB2 Labor Certification的新的EB3
I140申请。
2、雇主(HR)已答应给钱;雇主不给PP费用。
3、PP可以自己出;如果PP被拒,钱会退回申请人;没有PP审批大概3-5个月。
4、EB2的I140仍然有效,如果EB2又比EB3快,可以用EB2的I140。(不知道是否需要再
提交485及另外交费)
5、(如果新排期不倒退,)由于EB3已经Current,因此可以双飞485。雇主支付485费
用。
原文:
Dear XXX employee,
I hope you are having a prosperous holiday season.
You are being contacted because our records indicate you are the beneficiary
of an approved EB-2 I-140 with a chargeability of China. As you may be
aware, the current priority date for... 阅读全帖
s**g
发帖数: 709
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我的link写到:
Each month, the Visa Office subdivides the annual preference and foreign
state limitations specified by the
INA into monthly allotments based on totals of documentarily qualified
immigrant visa applicants reported at
consular posts and CIS Offices, grouped by foreign state chargeability,
preference category, and priority date.
包括CP吗?
你的的link写到:
It is important to note that eighty-six percent of all Employment preference
immigrants were processed as adjustment of status cases at CIS off... 阅读全帖
i****l
发帖数: 137
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本人12年9月初,另外row是怎么回事?为什么几个国家都在 01SEP12?公司可以降级,
但是不能一起file 485,这种情况值不值得现在就降级?
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
China - mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 15FEB09 15NOV04 C C
3rd 01SEP12 01SEP12 15SEP03 01SEP12 01MAY07
Other Workers 01SEP12 01SEP12 15SEP03 01SEP12 01MAY07
i****l
发帖数: 137
28
确实是中国的和worldwide的,是不是row就是worldwide的或者说表格里面的
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
---
Employment Third:
Worldwide: This cut-off date has been advanced over four and one half years
since last spring in an effort to generate new demand. After such a rapid
advance of a cut-off date applicant demand for number use, particularly for
adjustment of status cases, can be expected to increase significantly. Once
such demand begins to materialize at a greater rate it could have a
significant impact... 阅读全帖

发帖数: 1
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来自主题: EB23版 - timeline帖子
NSC
EB2
PD: cross-chargeability, Current
140:
approved in Nov, 2015
485:
RD 2/19/2016
EAD/AP 3/25/2016
FP 4/9/2016

发帖数: 1
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来自主题: EB23版 - timeline帖子
NSC
EB2
PD: cross-chargeability, Current
140:
approved in Nov, 2015
485:
RD 2/19/2016
EAD/AP 3/25/2016
FP 4/9/2016
l****l
发帖数: 3394
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来自主题: EB23版 - APR VB OUT - EB3 - OCT 1, 2012
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
China - mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 08MAR09 15NOV04 C C
3rd 01OCT12 01OCT12 15SEP03 01OCT12 15JUN07
Other Workers 01OCT12 01OCT12 15SEP03 01OCT12 15JUN07
U***A
发帖数: 849
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来自主题: EB23版 - VB OUT - EB3维持10/1/2012
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
China - mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 15APR09 15NOV04 C C
3rd 01OCT12 01OCT12 01OCT03 01OCT12 01NOV07
Other Workers 01OCT12 01OCT12 01OCT03 01OCT12 01NOV07
4th C C C C C
Certain Religious Workers C C C C C
5th
Targeted
Employment Areas/
Regional Centers
and Pilot Programs
C C C C C
w*******y
发帖数: 372
33
来自主题: EB23版 - VB out
http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy/bu
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
China - mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 15APR09 15NOV04 C C
3rd 01OCT12 01OCT12 01OCT03 01OCT12 01NOV07
i*********9
发帖数: 69
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All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
China - mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 15APR09 15NOV04 C C
3rd 01OCT12 01OCT12 01OCT03 01OCT12 01NOV07
看看这个 我是觉得至少我会这样做:
2013 9月份的PERM 然后等批准以后(这个现在就要8个月 还是要运气好的情况下)
然后赶紧先上EB2 140 然后180天内 看下的来吗 如果下不来去PP 搞定下来
然后观望EB3 看看如果时机到了 用EB2的PERM 同时申请EB3 140 和485 双飞走起
关键的问题是 这个东西没有人说不行 或者行 但是还是要试试 而且到底是不是180天
内必须下来一个140才以后 180天以后继续其他的140 没有人知道 所以最好180天内 搞
定EB2 14... 阅读全帖
y*****n
发帖数: 210
35
PD 2013/06
EB2 140 filed on 2014/03
如果现在和ROW无绿卡的人结婚,还可不可以用cross chargeability然后马上C交485?
还是需要重新file 140因为之前填的是single?
如果现在和美国公民结婚,是等EB23好呢,还是去交130好呢?交了130会不会就自动
revoke了之前的PERM和140,还是两边可以同时进行,互不影响。
考古好像没有发现类似问题,所以发帖问一下各位专家,贴个链接也行,省得码字。多
谢。
F*********u
发帖数: 12190
36
有些情况下,比如降级,比如换工作后重新relink以前的PD,比如cross
chargeability
都可能导致递交I-140的时候已经或者将要PD current
这时pp就有意义了
具体的去google吧
Q**F
发帖数: 995
37
来自主题: EB23版 - VB out - EB3 01OCT06
Employment- Based
All Chargeability Areas Except Those Listed
China - mainland born INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
1st C C C C C
2nd C 22MAY09 15NOV04 C C
3rd 01APR11 01OCT06 15OCT03 01APR11 01JAN08
Other Workers 01APR11 01JAN03 15OCT03 01APR11 01JAN08
4th C C C C C
Certain Religious Workers C C C C C
5th
Targeted
Employment Areas/
Regional Centers
and Pilot Programs
C C C C C
n**1
发帖数: 318
38
Yes, one can share his/her spouse's priority date (PD) even if they were
born in different countries. You can google "cross chargeable" for details.
H******i
发帖数: 4704
39
我担心什么,他当然要理,他的回答必然是:INA Section 202(a)(5) provides that
if total demand is insufficient to use all available numbers in the
Employment First and Second preference, then the unused numbers may be made
available without regard to the annual per-country limits for a country
which is considered to be "oversubscribed". Since under INA Section 203(e)
such numbers must be provided strictly in priority date order regardless of
chargeability, greater number use by one country would indicate greater
dema... 阅读全帖
z*****u
发帖数: 19
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Sorry I can not type chinese at work.
I copied 202(a)(5) and 203(e) from USCIS website.
INA Section 202(a)(5)
(5) 2/ RULES FOR EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS-
(A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF
ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under
paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar
quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be
issued such visas, the visas made available under that p... 阅读全帖
N****g
发帖数: 2829
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撇开有没有道理不讲,事实是拿学卡的人大部分是知识分子留学生。
法律原文如下。
“(d) Offset in Per Country Numerical Level.—
“(1) In general.—The numerical level under section 202(a)(2) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act [8 U.S.C. 1152(a)(2)] applicable to natives
of the People's Republic of China in each applicable fiscal year (as defined
in paragraph (3)) shall be reduced by 1,000.
“(2) Allotment if section 202(e) applies.—If section 202(e) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act is applied to the People's Republic of China
in an ... 阅读全帖
m******i
发帖数: 49
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来自主题: EB23版 - cross chargeability 是怎么work的
只要spouse不是中印的就行么?
这样的话究竟谁算主申请人,谁算副申请人?
还有是不是要一起file还是follow to join?
d******1
发帖数: 282
43
来自主题: EB23版 - cross chargeability 是怎么work的
主申请人就是有申请140的那个。基本上就是你们谁的排期快就用谁的排期。不过不幸
的是,移民局也许就看一眼你的排期(或者配偶是主申请人)然后以为排期不当前就扔一
边去啦。更有甚者直接告诉你你排期不当前,不会处理。这帮人基本负智商。至于是一
起file还是follow to join我就不清楚了,你得问律师了。
d******1
发帖数: 282
44
来自主题: EB23版 - cross chargeability 是怎么work的
还要打电话提醒,不然根本不理,直接扔一边。
g*****n
发帖数: 57
45
DOS Predictions: FB2A to Move Forward, EB2 India to Retrogress
July 15, 2014
The American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) has announced that it
will now begin to issue a report each month intended to provide reliable
predictions and analysis regarding the movement of cutoff dates in the visa
bulletin. These reports will be based on discussions with Charles Oppenheim,
Chief of the Visa Control and Reporting Division, U.S. Department of State
(DOS), following the release of each month's vis... 阅读全帖
l*******n
发帖数: 8388
46
You can claim chargeability to spouse’s country of birth, and submit 485
application for both of you.
p******i
发帖数: 1358
47
你的逻辑就正确了?
巴马说的可是'immigration reform','fix the broken immigration system'
他可没指明把合法排除在外。
这个版本来就是吐吐槽用的,正常渠道合法拿卡太多事情不受个人控制,没什么好讨论
的。
要旁门左道的话我给你指出来
1. 回去参加个zz然后回来政避
2. 真结婚 FB
3. 假结婚 FB
4. 娶个排期current国家的姑娘用cross chargeability跳过排期
出门左转不送
l*******z
发帖数: 4276
48
On Friday, May 30, 2014, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
reversed a longstanding policy of extending the validity of the physician
endorsement on the Report of Medical Examination and Vaccination Record (
Form I-693). This form, commonly referred to as the “medical exam,” is
required of all applicants for adjustment of status to permanent residence
filed on Form I-485. Each applicant must have an appointment with a USCIS
authorized civil surgeon who then completes and signs the... 阅读全帖
B********n
发帖数: 12753
49
http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy/st
V.
Immigrant Visas Issued and Adjustments of Status Subject to Numerical
Limitations (by Foreign State of Chargeability):
Fiscal Year 2014
Part 1 (Family Preferences)
Part 2 (Employment First through Fourth)
Part 3 (Employment Fifth and Totals, Grand Totals)
EB1234
EB5
EB123类CP
n***m
发帖数: 1627
50
VI.Preference Immigrant Visas Issued (by Foreign State of Chargeability):
Fiscal Year 2014
Part 2 (Employment 1st through 3rd)
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