s*********y
发帖数: 1189 | 1 FYI
Parents often discuss about circumcision in this board. Many say there is no
medical benefits. From a report I read in Science magazine, circumcision
can protect from HIV infection. This report also says "Surprisingly few
groups have published studies about the protective mechanism of circumcision"
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6193/161.full |
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b*********n
发帖数: 2975 | 2 LOL
then circumcision will not be covered by your insurance
Will circumcision make JJ bigger? if so, I will do it for my baby boy.
One of the baby book I have show baby boy with big JJ, I was wondering is
that because of circumcision, or just race difference? |
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a***n
发帖数: 665 | 3 谢谢各位xdjm的回复。
纯粹技术讨论啊：其实我们想给儿子circumcision跟宗教或卫生没啥关系。原因是这样
的：偶没circumcision，在跟ld嘿咻的时候，小弟弟太敏感，一般十几分钟就缴枪了，领
导有时能满意，有时不满意。
然后尝试用了一些能降低敏感度的tt, 时间就延长两倍至三倍，ld绝大部分时候都很满
意。
所以，想给儿子做circumcision的原因主要在于将来长大成人了，小弟弟的敏感度降低
，在性方面的能力强一些，而这是做男人有自信的重要环节之一，大家说呢，尤其做爸爸的。
纯粹技术讨论... |
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b*********n
发帖数: 2975 | 4 LOL
你是男生? 叫(迎春花)?
纯技术讨论, 做得太少了, 做个一夜七次郎就不会有这个问题了, 呵呵
谢谢各位xdjm的回复。
纯粹技术讨论啊：其实我们想给儿子circumcision跟宗教或卫生没啥关系。原因是这样
的：偶没circumcision，在跟ld嘿咻的时候，小弟弟太敏感，一般十几分钟就缴枪了，领
导有时能满意，有时不满意。
然后尝试用了一些能降低敏感度的tt, 时间就延长两倍至三倍，ld绝大部分时候都很满
意。
所以，想给儿子做circumcision的原因主要在于将来长大成人了，小弟弟的敏感度降低
，在性方面的能力强一些，而这是做男人有自信的重要环节之一，大家说呢，尤其做爸
爸的。
纯粹技术讨论... |
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h*****t
发帖数: 1030 | 5 宝宝刚出生就要Circumcision吗？听朋友说医生都会问下，要不要Circumcision，一般
妈妈们都怎么选择的呀？俺以后好参考下 |
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c*****r
发帖数: 2608 | 6 not true, It is inverse actually.
Reasons for circumcision fall into three broad groups:
* for an immediate medical indication
* to prevent future disease
* as an act of religious dedication.
The best advice is 'if it isn't absolutely necessary, don't circumcise'. |
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h****m
发帖数: 1490 | 7 我问：如果做circumcision，是谁做？
OB答：我或on call OB。宝宝出生后会问你们意见，要做的就马上做。
我问：在你的案例里有多少生男孩子的父母决定做circumcision的？
OB答：80%.主要是social consideration.自己的三个儿子都做了。保险不cover的一般
不做，用medicaid的一般不做，因为medicaid不cover
我问：做circumsision风险大吗？好护理吗？
OB答：10min的小手术，打点麻药。很好护理。
========================
看到前段时间有人问这个问题。
只是提供些信息，不要拍我。
BTW，我的OB是女的美国白人 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 8 Banning circumcision | Against the Cut; The “intactivist” movement takes
on the oldest surgery known to man. Economist, May 19, 2011
http://www.economist.com/node/18712852
("Circumcision arrived in America not primarily with Jewish immigrants but
as a Victorian British fad, in which the original stated objective was to
discourage masturbation and nocturnal emissions")
Note: Prince v. Massachusetts, 321 U.S. 158 (1944)
http://supreme.justia.com/us/321/158/case.html
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m*******0
发帖数: 52 | 9 去看医生做孕期常规检查，前台突然拿出一个单子让我们签字，仔细一看是关于
Circumcision 的，是让宝宝出生后做的，后来问了医生，医生说很多美国当地人会做
，可以根据自己的传统和信仰决定做不做。
不知大家对Circumcision 怎么看的？ |
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e******l
发帖数: 1416 | 10 【 以下文字转载自 NextGeneration 讨论区 】
发信人: easygirl (gg), 信区: NextGeneration
标 题: circumcise or not?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 17 12:15:22 2010, 美东)
昨天OB问了我是否要给要出生的儿子做CIRCUMCISE的问题。他给我提供的参考意见是：
美国人基本都做，西YI不做，亚洲人有一般做。由太人当然都做了。
他觉得主要是＂好看＂避免peer pressure，还有清洁；不好的是有人认为影响性生活
的敏感度。
我有个疑问：人体上天然的东西，一般都是有用的，这个包皮是不是其实是起保护作用
的呢？
另一个问题：好象个体差异，人的包皮是不一样长的，有的长到了必须做手术的程度，
有的稍稍短一点，那给婴儿做手术
的时候都切掉的是相同的长度吗？
我们还在犹豫中，大家都是怎么想的？ |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1829 | 11 Will circumcision make JJ bigger? if so, I will do it for my baby boy.
One of the baby book I have show baby boy with big JJ, I was wondering is that because of circumcision, or just race difference? |
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x******t
发帖数: 3911 | 12 circumcision is a small procedure, but the other one is not. It is much
easier to clean when circumcision is done.
Plus, it is not un-heard of to have the appendix removed while having other
surgery. |
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s****t
发帖数: 1 | 13 想在美国做Circumcision手术，其实回国也可以做，国内算是门诊手术，但可能得休息
1周，很麻烦，所以想问问如果在美国做。
听说好像美国一般都是刚刚出生的时候给做的，所以不知道20多岁的应该怎么个流程，
步骤。找医生？去医院？比较茫然，因为自己也最多看看感冒，不知道这种应该怎么个
步骤？一般花费多少呢？大家给点建议把，谢谢啦！ |
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O*******d
发帖数: 20343 | 14 Unless you cannot fold back your foreskin, there is no need to do
circumcision. |
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s****i
发帖数: 498 | 15 刚在网上看到宝宝Circumcision后，不要用Baby Wiper 擦，要用Sponge和温开水洗
Poop，是这样的吗？
每次都是用装在Warmer里的Wiper擦，再抹Diper Paste。不知道行不行。。。 |
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j********e
发帖数: 1244 | 17 前一阵看华人有个妈妈写她3岁儿子circumcise的过程
感觉痛苦不大 恢复也很快 当然不能跟新生儿比
我没给宝宝做 打算大点看看 说不定根本没必要呢
至少现在不错 已经能翻开了 ped说一周翻开洗一次
没有什么显而易见的好处 我就不想折腾了 |
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W*******g
发帖数: 458 | 18 Ok, 我承认我又纠结了，本来都打算做了算了。here is a link to US circumcision
incidence:
http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/
It's below 50% on West coast, especially CA, where I am. National wide it's
around 50% now, used to be much higher...To be honest I never ever paid
attention to this in previous relationships. Had to google to see what it is
like...
The only problem is that the processure is non-reversable...I started to
think maybe I should leave this decision to my son himself later. |
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N******u
发帖数: 11939 | 19 我觉得做不做还是由lg决定把，毕竟我们不是男的，没实际感受。
circumcision
s
is |
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s******L
发帖数: 536 | 20 宝7周大，做circumcise后一直恢复很好，2周看儿医也说没问题，但从最近一周洗PP时
发现包皮前端
一圈有点红肿，并且有小水泡样子的小肿包，触摸宝没反应说明不痛！不知道有这样情
况的宝妈是怎么
处理的？ |
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m*******e
发帖数: 1886 | 21 risks for UTI in uncircumcised boys ->
about 9 folds compared with the rate of risks in circumcised boys.
Ask you OB about this research results. |
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t*****r
发帖数: 543 | 22 你征求过孩子自己意见？现在不做，将来长大自己愿意随便做。现在割掉，将来懂事了
再想要，没了，埋怨你们怎么办？
再说，是个手术就有风险，割包皮这个东西利弊关系争议很大，本身也是对于身体的一
种创伤，并发症也不少，感染，瘢痕，畸形，还有鸡鸡不小心被割掉的都有先例，又不
是说不割皮，这辈子就过不下去了，就不是正常娃了，不明白为什么这么多人热中这个
东西。不要认为这个洋人玩意儿时髦跟风！我劝你还是三思吧！
去看医生做孕期常规检查，前台突然拿出一个单子让我们签字，仔细一看是关于
Circumcision 的，是让宝宝出生后做的，后来问了医生，医生说很多美国当地人会做
，可以根据自己的传........
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G********n
发帖数: 468 | 23 前两天产检，OB让我考虑一下circumcision的事情。当时我都不知道这是啥意思，告诉
OB说我要回来做一下research，然后再做决定。回家后，查了一下这个单词，发现原来
是割包皮的意思。想问一下版上生男娃的妈妈们都是怎么处理这个问题的。 |
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p*********d
发帖数: 2373 | 24 我们没割，觉得没必要
前段时间看到文章说现在美国＞50%的男娃没有circumcised |
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o********8
发帖数: 821 | 25 宝宝刚出生做了circumcision，医院的护士说用3、5天的ointment+纱布就可。今天去
看儿医，他说可以不用纱布了，但建议只要穿尿布就摸些ointment在diaper上。。。一
下子晕了。。。不知道大家都给娃用多久呀？ |
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m*****y
发帖数: 75 | 26 本來對這個話題不感興趣，不過做了一些研究之後，覺得有必要和大家分享一下。
帖子裡都是後悔的父母，情況不一樣，但是很多人都是後悔當時太young，uninformed
，或者迫於“和爸爸不一樣”等等的家庭觀點。最近這個帖子太多了，不想引起爭吵，
但是供大家參考，至少是聽一聽另一面的消息，而且是親身經歷者的感受。
其中一個鏈接還提到，手術時候要收錢，之後有問題兒醫要收錢，而且割下來的包皮會
高價販賣給美容研究機構用於護膚品的研究，所以是一本萬利的買賣。
If you regret circumcising your son(s), please post here.
http://www.mothering.com/community/t/112410/if-you-regret-circu
我老大5歲，沒割，從沒有任何問題。小時候jj出不來，婆婆還擔心，最近發現他自己
就翻出來了，而且裡面很乾淨。
老二 on the way，也不會挨這一刀。 |
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c****a
发帖数: 546 | 27 新生男孩，目前在母婴室观察。昨晚有护士问要不要给小孩做circumcision。
请有类似经验的或了解情况人士谈谈看法。
刚才google了一下，好像美国50-60%的男孩都做了。不知道华人小孩是不是也做。
您的小孩出生后是不是在医院里也做了。实在拿不准啊。
在线等。谢谢。 |
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j***e
发帖数: 708 | 28 there is a lot of debates on going on now. used to be an easy decision that
most babies will have the surgery. but now more and more parents are
hesitant.
for the cosmetic reason, it really depends, everybody should feel good about
themselves and their loved ones. i recall from what i read that those who
circumcised would give more pleasure to women that's true, and intact one
will give himself more pleasure - from sensitivity point of view.. |
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y***d
发帖数: 2330 | 29 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070901213548AAQrVgF
Yousif (Joe) R
Resolved Question
Does Circumcision reduce penis size?
I hate my parents for this...
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Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
Would chopping your hair off change your height?
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Jorge
Only if too much skin was removed. If too much skin is removed, there wouldn
't be enough skin for the penis to expand during erections, which could also
cause discomfort and pull pubic hair to the shaft.
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No, it |
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y***d
发帖数: 2330 | 30 same page
by cut50yearsago
Question ; During puberty, were your erections tight-painfull? If so the
lack of skin may have restricted the growth of you penis. Of course the skin
could stretch and grow too; but this would still slow the growth at the
time the organ was supposed to grow and thus might result in a smaller penis.
This is a problem with infant-child circumcision, it is guess-work to judge
how much tissue to amputate, too much and the penis is restricted and
deformed, "too little" and |
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T******t
发帖数: 420 | 32 去年的文章。有点长，但是很全面，很中肯。
August 30, 2009
The Latest Fight Over the Foreskin
By RONI CARYN RABIN
In the late 19th century, Victorian-era doctors described the male foreskin as a “source of serious mischief.”
Convinced that masturbation led to insanity, and that it was the sensitive,responsive foreskin that stimulated masturbation, surgeons started promoting therapeutic circumcision to cure young men of the “sin” of excessive indulgence and prevent its corollary, “masturbatory insanity,” a catchall ph |
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T******t
发帖数: 420 | 33 我以为你是恨Circumcision，原来你是恨犹太人。
要不要怪天主教没有在Spanish Inquisition时斩草除根？还有二战也结束的太早？
的.
. 别看美国强大, 其实是个給犹太人寄生了的僵尸而已. |
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y***d
发帖数: 2330 | 34 http://www.circinfo.net/Circumcision_and_penis_length.html
Length when erect:
Average erect penis length was 16.0 cm (95% CI 12.2-19.8) in 156 White men
aged 18-55 years (mean 33) in Sydney, Australia [Richters et al., 1995].
Length in the 102 who were circumcised was 0.8 cm (5% or 1/20th) less than
length in the 43 who were uncircumcised. It was suggested that "insufficient
residual foreskin in some uncircumcised men may have tethered their
erections". There are at least two interpretations of |
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s******2
发帖数: 3519 | 35 只从上课看到那个circumcision之后的照片，就坚定了不切的决心。中国大部分都不切
的不是照样好好的。 |
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x******t
发帖数: 3911 | 36 Just heard a 70 year old had to do a circumcision due to infection. I'd say
have the baby boy get the procedure done. |
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a***n
发帖数: 665 | 37 但一般而言，circumcision过的小弟弟敏感度会降低，是吧。
我们在犹豫就是想，等小家伙大了自己决定，还是现在就替他决定了，hehe |
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j***e
发帖数: 708 | 38 it'll please his wife more having a circumcision, and it'll please himself
more having it intact
，领
爸爸的。 |
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e****i
发帖数: 2152 | 39 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: erkuai (三天不上bbs,赶得上刘少奇), 信区: Military
标 题: On the Jews and Their Lies, 1543
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 12 23:21:23 2011, 美东)
by Martin Luther (1483-1546)
Translated by Martin H. Bertram
copyright © 1971 Fortress Press & Augsburg Fortress - On the Jews and
Their Lies is from Luther’s Works Volume 47. Augsburg Fortress is the
publishing ministry of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Funded through sales revenue, Augsburg Fortress is called to provide
produ... 阅读全帖 |
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e****i
发帖数: 2152 | 40 by Martin Luther (1483-1546)
Translated by Martin H. Bertram
copyright © 1971 Fortress Press & Augsburg Fortress - On the Jews and
Their Lies is from Luther’s Works Volume 47. Augsburg Fortress is the
publishing ministry of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Funded through sales revenue, Augsburg Fortress is called to provide
products and services that communicate the Gospel, enhance faith, and
enrich the life of the Christian community from a Lutheran perspective.
Part I
I had mad... 阅读全帖 |
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c******i
发帖数: 4091 | 41 割包皮会造成一生的心理创伤和生理隐患，会增加妇科疾病的发病率，会增加艾滋病的
发病率，等等。
How Male Circumcision Harms Women
Ronald Goldman, Ph.D.
Learn about the hidden negative psychological and sexual effects of
circumcision and how these effects harm women in relationships with men.
This article is based on research reports in the medical and psychological
literature.
Marilyn Milos didn't know much about circumcision when she consented to have
her three sons circumcised. She trusted her doctor who told her it did not
hurt and "only to... 阅读全帖 |
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z**n
发帖数: 22303 | 42 DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO CIRCUMCISE YOUR SON?
Circumcision is a painful, risky, unethical surgery that deprives over a
million boys each year of healthy, functional tissue, while wasting health
care dollars that could be spent on medically necessary services. Learn more
about the myths and facts of infant circumcision, visit our Resources page,
read the "Ten Reasons NOT to Circumcise Your Baby Below" below – and learn
why you should keep your newborn son intact.
10 Reasons NOT to Circumcise Yo... 阅读全帖 |
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l*********e
发帖数: 5385 | 43 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
sunflower33 (我也来了) 于 (Mon Dec 3 09:27:46 2012, 美东) 提到:
Boy or girl:
Yes or no?
Why yes?
Why no?
自己也有些confusion, 故看看大家的态度，谢谢
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mimyw (小猫子:3) 于 (Mon Dec 3 09:29:57 2012, 美东) 提到:
Boy,
Yes,
cuz that's what daddy wants. also easy to keep clean.
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lightgreen (四月芽) 于 (Mon Dec 3 09:42:02 2012, 美东) 提到:
Boy
Yes
Easy to clean, low risk of infection.
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 44 CHAPTER XXVIII
Of Baptism
I. Baptism is a sacrament of the new testament, ordained by Jesus Christ,[52
2] not only for the solemn admission of the party baptized into the visible
church;[523] but also, to be unto him a sign and seal of the covenant of gra
ce,[524] of his ingrafting into Christ,[525] of regeneration,[526] of remiss
ion of sins,[527] and of his giving up unto God, through Jesus Christ, to wa
lk in newness of life.[528] Which sacrament is, by Christ’s own appointment
, to be contin... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 45 CHAPTER XXVIII
Of Baptism
I. Baptism is a sacrament of the new testament, ordained by Jesus Christ,[52
2] not only for the solemn admission of the party baptized into the visible
church;[523] but also, to be unto him a sign and seal of the covenant of gra
ce,[524] of his ingrafting into Christ,[525] of regeneration,[526] of remiss
ion of sins,[527] and of his giving up unto God, through Jesus Christ, to wa
lk in newness of life.[528] Which sacrament is, by Christ’s own appointment
, to be contin... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 46
25. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be
a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
"
25. For circumcision indeed profits, etc. He dissipates by anticipation what
the Jews might have objected in opposition to him in the defense of their
own cause: for since circumcision was a symbol of the Lord’s covenant, by
which he had chosen Abraham and his seed as his peculiar people, they seemed
not to have gloried in vain; but as they neglected what ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 47 C. Full Exegetical Outline
I. The Jew thinks that through his relationship to the Law he has the essent
ial features of knowledge and truth and can guide and teach the Gentile (2:1
7-20).
A. Many Jews rely on the Law and boast in their relationship to YHWH and cla
im to know his will since they are instructed out of the Law (2:17-18).
1. Many Jews proudly call themselves Jews, rely on the Law, and boast in the
ir relationship with God (2:17).
2. Many Jews know God’s will and approve of morally a... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 48 C. Full Exegetical Outline
I. The Jew thinks that through his relationship to the Law he has the essent
ial features of knowledge and truth and can guide and teach the Gentile (2:1
7-20).
A. Many Jews rely on the Law and boast in their relationship to YHWH and cla
im to know his will since they are instructed out of the Law (2:17-18).
1. Many Jews proudly call themselves Jews, rely on the Law, and boast in the
ir relationship with God (2:17).
2. Many Jews know God’s will and approve of morally a... 阅读全帖 |
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