S***d
发帖数: 1802 | 1
incompetent
the guy in DMV maybe slow and stupid, but you dont get to be a lawyer if you
are that dumb... no matter who you are working for, DoJ or private
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 2 我也是门外汉，随便扯两句
听说以前很多人都磕PED
从打击到投手
所以史上打出HR最多的Bonds在记录本上要打星号
史上Cy Young最多的Clemens官司还没结束
这几年联盟好像比较重视这个问题了，大家比较收敛了
那些数据一下就掉下去的自然就被人怀疑之前是磕药的 |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 3 I do not know how the jury reached this decision. I thought
after Andy Pettitte came out, Roger Clemens would surely
spend time behind bars. |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 4 but this is not important. what is important is that Roger
Clemens is an athlete who entertained a lot of people
in his career. He will forever be remembered as a great
pitcher. Steroids or not, it is not important.
It is a shame that the federal prosecutors decided to push
this case twice. This is how our tax money goes down to the
drain. |
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H*******o
发帖数: 504 | 5 clemens和arod, bonds还是不能比，媒体一干人马上跳出来给他唱赞歌 |
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 6 他这是闹哪样？
打官司打穷了？
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 7 delay HOF clock by 5 years. |
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 8 这人有点不知死活啊。等着被打的七荤八素的时候再送他四个字：
药不能停 |
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c*********e
发帖数: 16335 | 11 50岁了，没钱了？儿子老子都干这行，身体要紧啊。
signed
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 12 With his age and the years taxing on his body, I'm really afraid
he might die from a heartattack during the game. That will settle
all the disputes about HOF. |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 14 I don't think he can attract a lot of tickets sales.
and I don't think Astros would sign him either.
For the rockets, this is a publicity move, he is trying to prove something,
which is really stupid and will never prove in public opinions.
some |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 15 我靠， scott kazmir 和 jason lane 都堕落成这样了。 |
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r**y
发帖数: 731 | 19 刚才听广播，有个投手都进了hof，还想come back，
结果春训时候坚持了2/3inn就不行了 |
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 21 这仨进去了，落榜的那几位肯定后悔死：“早知当年多吃点药，I can be BETTER” |
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 23 那是时代的错误
他们几个在同辈中能脱颖而出也算是人才
体育界就是因为记录这么个玩意儿
所以总是关公战秦琼
在这些人的记录上打个星号就好了
个人觉得他们的天分和努力还是应该得到一定程度的承认的 |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 26 how can the career hit leader not be in the HOF? :) |
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H*******o
发帖数: 504 | 27 今早收音机里有tom verducci上节目，这家伙当年紧跟clemens，吹捧的文章写了不知
多少，现在摇身一变成了道德卫士，真是甲醇 |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 28 Bonds and Clemens are never confirmed of doping either.
That entire period was dark. We have reason to question every slugger and
every pitcher. I do not care if it is Unit or Maddux or Biggio. They need to
be treated the same despite the fact that some of them might not be doping. |
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H*******o
发帖数: 504 | 29 怎么定义cheater啊？药检没过？那clemens可不算。Bonds那个也本来应该是
confidential的，要公平也该把名单上所有人公布才成。
一般情况下只罚被抓的没什么问题，但对steroid era来讲，太多的人吃药没被揪出来
，没被查出来本身已经得利了，要是再以此为由选入名人堂就更过分了
而且现在已经有药检了，不存在影响将来的问题 |
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 30 唉
都是浮云
像clemens好像之前还试图重返职业联赛以推迟提名HOF
真是纠结
看看lance armstrong
直接承认算了
甩掉这些负担
后半辈子好好过就是了
后人再提起他来，他的故事也算是有个交待
没有人会忘记他的七次环法冠军
如果死不承认，就永远被人打星号了 |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 31 Cliff Lee is not a conventional power pitcher. He definitely has a few good
years left.
Even power pitchers can last very long. Remember Randy Johnson and Roger
Clemens? :) |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 32 Americans adore heroes.
In the last 10-15 years, only a few athletes really stand out.
Baseball: Bonds, Clemens, ARod, Jeter
Football: Manning, Brady, Favre
Hockey: none
Basketball: Lebron, Kobe
Tennis: none
Swimming: Phelps
Boxing: Mayweather
Golf: Tiger, Phil
Cycling: Lance Armstrong
Those folks are born and live for the glory. Others are in their shadows.
Just think about this: A Korean woman golfer is putting for her Major Grand
Slam at this moment. All we hear was Tiger whined about the put... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 33 key words,
Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Grady Little, Mariano Rivera, Aaron Boone...
Yankee Standium Aurora, Deja Wu again... |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 34 I do not care whether he gets in or not. In fact, I think he should. I also
think Bonds, Clemens, Rose, Palmero... all should get in. Just do not use
double standards.
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 36 2003 roger clemens 这个老drama宣布退役，我去了老阳极球场看他常规最后一场。结
果没多久，这老妖精就复出了。 |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 37 It would have been fine if Kluber's ERA is slightly worse than King Felix,
or Kluber is
an established ace like Clemens.
The lowest ERA for a long time, the most dominant record of 16 straight
games of
7 innings no more than 2 earned runs weren't valued more than 3 wins. These
voters
simply have no brain and have no common sense. |
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 38 Johnson, Martinez, Smoltz, and Biggio入选
除Biggio是第三年选，其他三人first ballot
Clemens和Bonds得票都低于40%
道奇现任教头Mattingly今年最后一次机会，没入选。 |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 39 to make one more point about it,
Pedro, Unit, Maddux are clearly the best among the bunch. Way better than
everyone else. The same thing can be said about Roger Clemens but his
candidacy is tainted by PED.
Now, it comes to this quesiton, 3 other pitchers, Smoltz, Mussina, Schilling
, who's better? One can argue that Smoltz is the best because he has a Cy
Young and he's got all those saves. Schilling had a few really dominant
years with both Dbacks and RedSox and has a better career ERA+ than Smo... 阅读全帖 |
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 40 Griffey以史上最高得票率入选，也是第一个状元秀入选
Piazza也入选，史上最低选秀顺位入选名人堂
Piazza入选了，其它磕药的也可以排队进场了
明年轮到Bagwell了，Clemens和Bonds这俩大药罐子可能还得多等几年 |
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 41 Scherzer今晚K了20个
平历史记录
其他三个是Wood, Clemens, and Johnson |
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s****n
发帖数: 4266 | 42 我猜的和你一样，只是多了这些
Catfish Hunter?
Wade Bogg(不是Boog)?
Chili Davis?
Trot Nixon?
Rogers Clemens? Kenny Rogers?
Ugueth Urbina? |
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S*******t
发帖数: 174 | 43 Here is a quote from letsrun:
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“Virtually everything in Armstrong’s life was built on a fraud. …
Armstrong is not like Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens — who, by all accounts,
were rich, famous and headed for the Hall of Fame before they started using
performance-enhancing drugs. Without doping, Armstrong would be just another
guy. That was never enough for him – which, of course, is why he doped.”
- Sports Illustrated‘s Michael Rosenberg.
We 100% agree. Don’t feel sorry for Lance’s big fall or ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*i
发帖数: 9453 | 44 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
pingp (小神经~当且仅当) 于 (Sun Aug 12 02:49:46 2007) 提到:
好像睡觉时候肌肉增长，请问睡觉前吃蛋白
是否合适
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AngLee (stay hungry, stay foolish) 于 (Sun Aug 12 10:21:25 2007) 提到:
我基本抖着样
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clemens (I+will!) 于 (Sun Aug 12 16:53:17 2007) 提到:
睡觉的时候消化吸收能力是不是有下降啊？
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pingp (小神经~当且仅当) 于 (Mon Aug 13 06:02:19 2007) 提到:
再白烂一下，不锻炼休息天也吃
蛋白纷么。
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z*i
发帖数: 58873 | 45 吃药的头会变大很多
Bonds
Clemens
McGwire
Canseco
Giambi
Rodriguz
都是大头仔 |
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z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 46 首先恭喜Michigan拿下the game。
Texans的第二四分卫Matt Leinart打了半场好球，扔了个漂亮的TD然后broke
collarbone，现在只剩下一个五轮秀T J Yates和发叔之前的Jets替补Clemens了，很痛心
总经理把发叔来的路堵死了，那么给华叔去个礼节性的电话吧——上周他在NFL.com刚
刚表达了对Leinart的支持以及像99年MJ一样99.999%退役的决心 |
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p****s
发帖数: 3153 | 47 居然还有球队想要clemens，难道真是卖不出票去了？ |
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z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 48 Clemens这个事一定是传闻，要不真成那啥了，不过球票销售那个惨，前排座位都可以
晒老抽了。
这还是这赛季新老板上来，球票价格冻结，允许球迷进场带吃的。 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 50 Tom Clemens
就是去年进攻教练去海豚前的四分卫教练。
绿湾迷回应说，注意落，龙哥不附送。
新年第一天就学新东西了。原来，原队主教练可以阻止助理教练跳槽，但是如果是面试
主教练的职位，那就没法了。以前狗熊就想挖汤姆去做进攻教练，被麦胖阻止了。这次
是主教练职位，麦胖没办法。 |
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