n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 1 all first ballot HOFers.
Maddux, despite his stellar career, was not voted in unanimous. Some
reporters simply refuse to vote for anyone who played in the steroids era. I
do not agree with this approach. But I respect that.
Maddux is hands down the best pitcher I ever watched. And Randy Johnson is
the most dominant. :) |
n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 2 on the same front:
Craig Biggio did not make it this year either. He got 74.8 pct. The cutoff
line is at 75%.
I just do not understand why Frank Thomas got in. He was a power hitter like
Sosa and Bonds. Frank Thomas never got caught, of course. But he is a power
hitter in the steroids era. This sounds like double standard to me.
In any case, I am glad that both Maddux and Glavine got in. I just remember
how they tortured my Phillies year in and year out.
I
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: all first ballot HOFers.
: Maddux, despite his stellar career, was not voted in unanimous. Some
: reporters simply refuse to vote for anyone who played in the steroids era. I
: do not agree with this approach. But I respect that.
: Maddux is hands down the best pitcher I ever watched. And Randy Johnson is
: the most dominant. :)
|
t*a
发帖数: 18880 | 3 不认识第三个...
I
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: all first ballot HOFers.
: Maddux, despite his stellar career, was not voted in unanimous. Some
: reporters simply refuse to vote for anyone who played in the steroids era. I
: do not agree with this approach. But I respect that.
: Maddux is hands down the best pitcher I ever watched. And Randy Johnson is
: the most dominant. :)
|
n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 4 Frank Thomas was a long time White Sox. He was a two time MVP, and got 500
HR under his belt.
This is how he looks like when he was a rookie.
This is how he looks like in 2005
【在 t*a 的大作中提到】
: 不认识第三个...
:
: I
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t*a
发帖数: 18880 | 5 还是不大认识，觉得前2个有名许多，赫赫，可能所在球队的缘故? 记得葛拉文在90年
代的中华职棒二代游戏中就有... 最强力的外援投手...
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: Frank Thomas was a long time White Sox. He was a two time MVP, and got 500
: HR under his belt.
: This is how he looks like when he was a rookie.
: This is how he looks like in 2005
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 6 does this open the door to other players potentially linked to PED? |
s***o
发帖数: 2191 | 7 Maddux主要是控制超强吧，这个吃药作用大吗？ |
n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 8 For those who are linked, I'd say no. But for guys like Griffey Jr, they are
in.
This is a shame that Thomas got in before Bonds, not to mention that he got
the honor of first ballot HOFer.
【在 a********l 的大作中提到】
: does this open the door to other players potentially linked to PED?
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 9 No one questions Maddux. He absolutely should be in. :)
【在 s***o 的大作中提到】
: Maddux主要是控制超强吧，这个吃药作用大吗？
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a***n
发帖数: 5665 | 10 就算bonds 2000之后数据全不算，也应该比big hurt强吧？
I
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: all first ballot HOFers.
: Maddux, despite his stellar career, was not voted in unanimous. Some
: reporters simply refuse to vote for anyone who played in the steroids era. I
: do not agree with this approach. But I respect that.
: Maddux is hands down the best pitcher I ever watched. And Randy Johnson is
: the most dominant. :)
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 11 抗拒从严了吧。。。
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 就算bonds 2000之后数据全不算，也应该比big hurt强吧？
:
: I
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 12 maddux relied more on hitting his spots. when he does not hit his spots he
can be very hittable.
【在 s***o 的大作中提到】
: Maddux主要是控制超强吧，这个吃药作用大吗？
|
l*****d
发帖数: 1948 | 13 楼上指的是Thomas吧
【在 s***o 的大作中提到】
: Maddux主要是控制超强吧，这个吃药作用大吗？
|
i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 14 maybe those voters (mostly reporters) have some insider information?
like
power
remember
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: on the same front:
: Craig Biggio did not make it this year either. He got 74.8 pct. The cutoff
: line is at 75%.
: I just do not understand why Frank Thomas got in. He was a power hitter like
: Sosa and Bonds. Frank Thomas never got caught, of course. But he is a power
: hitter in the steroids era. This sounds like double standard to me.
: In any case, I am glad that both Maddux and Glavine got in. I just remember
: how they tortured my Phillies year in and year out.
:
: I
|
z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 15 The Houston Astros are still waiting for the first Hall of Famer inducted
wearing their cap... |
n*****n
发帖数: 1361 | 16 So I guess Frank Thomas paved the way for Ortiz to get in, as DH? |
n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 17 Ortiz tested positive once, I think.
【在 n*****n 的大作中提到】
: So I guess Frank Thomas paved the way for Ortiz to get in, as DH?
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z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 18 A lot may happen in 20-25 years;
Yet the way is still stormy for Ortiz judging from today. He may have 2-3
years left to play, then have to wait 5 years, then may have to spend a lot
of years lingering around 30% of the ballot.
【在 n*****n 的大作中提到】
: So I guess Frank Thomas paved the way for Ortiz to get in, as DH?
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 19 I do not care whether he gets in or not. In fact, I think he should. I also
think Bonds, Clemens, Rose, Palmero... all should get in. Just do not use
double standards.
lot
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: A lot may happen in 20-25 years;
: Yet the way is still stormy for Ortiz judging from today. He may have 2-3
: years left to play, then have to wait 5 years, then may have to spend a lot
: of years lingering around 30% of the ballot.
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l*****d
发帖数: 1948 | 20 right. do not use double standard. use asterisk.
also
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】
: I do not care whether he gets in or not. In fact, I think he should. I also
: think Bonds, Clemens, Rose, Palmero... all should get in. Just do not use
: double standards.
:
: lot
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