a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 1 这个不太同意。
陈竺有政治成分，但是贡献也还是很大的，我觉得比一公大。Dennis Lo也算国际临床
诊断的老大级人物了
，直接创造的产值绝对1B$以上了，对生物医学比一公大。
Yuk-Ming Dennis Lo, MD
AACC-NACB Award for Outstanding Contributions to Clinical Chemistry in a
Selected Area of Research
Dr. Lo is the director of the Li Ka Shing Institute of Health Sciences and
chair of the department of chemical pathology of The Chinese University of
Hong Kong. In 1997, Dr. Lo and his co-workers reported the presence of cell-
free fetal DNA in the plasma of pregnant women. This discovery... 阅读全帖 |
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e*****e
发帖数: 263 | 2 your research history is not so long as you said
but you did not indicate your whole academic/professional history at all in
your first post.
If you are seeking constructive suggestions, you'd better give a more
detailed and well-rounded info about yourself
Based on your limited bio, i could only deduce that you just worked for 3
yrs, and before that, it must be academic research until 34.
As you also said below, competition of faculty in OM is insane,
which means you are not competitive and exc |
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发帖数: 176 | 3 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/masy.19900320118/pdf
On the nature of active species in cationic ring-opening polymerization of
cyclodimethylsiloxanes
Authors
Pierre Sigwalt,
Vivian Stannett
First published: February 1990Full publication history
DOI: 10.1002/masy.19900320118View/save citation
Cited by: 5 articlesCitation tools
Abstract
Contrarily to cationic ring-opening polymerization of cyclic ethers and of
some other cyclic monomers, for which direct identification of the various
t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 791 | 4 大伙说说，云计算是什么？是不是又一个reinvent of wheel：冷饭热炒？
藕看了个youtube，一帮混蛋扯了半天，总算藕知道它们想说什么啦；以下是藕的整理
、抽象、思辨后的：
clouding computing is simply the old grandpa idea: mainframes+terminals;
however, as A scientist with unusual power of reflection, i refuse to deduce
that the oldness means uselessness;
at this point of time, 藕们 actually have two types of nets;
type 1: the internet;
the internet is constituted by 3 components, 藕们's end computers, networks,
and servers; in internet, the majority work is done by worldwide |
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s*******1
发帖数: 135 | 5 If W is selected, then either X or Y is selected.
It should be deduced as W TO X or W TO Y, what is the counter positive
negation?
1. (-) (X+Y) TO (-) W?
2. (-) X TO (-) W
3. (-) Y TO (-) W
A. 1 is correct
B. 2 and 3 are correct |
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b*o
发帖数: 47 | 6
Personally, I think the major drawback of Flory polymer solution
theory is the interaction parameter, whose physical meaning is so unclear and
difficult to deduce from chemical structures .
Actually, Huggis' theory is a little bit different on describing the polymer-
solvent interactions. Welcome further comments. |
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 7 [eta] is intrinsic viscosity.
you can get criteria for dilute solution from any polymer textbooks..
overlapping concentration C* can be also deduced using a simple fomula.
but this predicted one generally is lower than the real overlapping
concentration.
what's your polymer?
people already have MHS formula for different polymers in different solvents.
you can first use MHS to get [eta], then C*.
what's dilute solution?
just means the regime in which eta-eta(s) is linear with C. |
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 8 in these two days, I read more publications and book chapters.
some experimental hints were already there.
first of all,
SANS results showed a slight difference between Rg in theta solvents and in
melts. Kirste thought that's due to prefactor in the equation for deducing
Rg. (Kirste, R. G.; et al, 1975, Polymer)
second,
some recent results by Japanese researchers showed excluded volume effect
cannot be screened out until the short chain (as "solvent") molecular
weight Ns is higher than ~Ne, whic |
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 9 标 题: 已知天空是蓝色的，请推导出“阿伏加德罗常数”
据说是princeton物理系一个有个性的教授出的期末考试题：
整个考试只有一道题：
The sky is blue, please deduce "Avogadro Constant".
翻译过来是：
已知天空是蓝色的，请推导出“阿伏加德罗常数”。
提示：蓝光的波长，空气的密度概率分布，光的散射折射等
想好之后再看答案
Original by Philip Gibbs May 1997.
Why is the sky blue?
A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter
blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look
towards the sun at sunset, we see red and orange colours because the blue
light has been scattered out |
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s*****g
发帖数: 221 | 10 sorry, my question originally is,
I believe The second equation obtained the
Wc fraction based on composite's mass.
because it looks like not convincing (maybe I am wrong).
so I intended to simplify it but gave you the first equation.
my difficulty here is I need a equation to calculate
the Wc fraction based on composite's mass.
but I need to convince the reviewer the eq. is right.
I donot think it is a good idea to deduce it using high school
knowledge(step by step).
so I am asking for a refer |
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 11 固含量 or gel fraction is not crosslinking density.
normally people use shear modulus (G) or tensile modulus to deduce Mc
between two neighboring crosslinks via Mc=rouRT/G. |
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 12 Italian physics professor Enzo Di Fabrizio captures twisted ladder that
props up life
DNA's double-helix structure is on display for the first time in this
electron microscope photograph of a small bundle of DNA strands.
Fifty-nine years after James Watson and Francis Crick deduced the double-
helix structure of DNA, a scientist has captured the first direct photograph
of the twisted ladder that props up life.
Enzo Di Fabrizio, a physics professor at Magna Graecia University in
Catanzaro, Italy,... 阅读全帖 |
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a***n
发帖数: 40 | 13 f>=0, integral of f over a probability space is finite,
can we deduce that f is finite directly?
By contradiction, I think it is correct, but feel it is a bit weird. Is it
correct??? Thanks a lot! |
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C******e
发帖数: 96 | 14 in fact I wanna use lim f(x)=inf so as to use L'hopital rule...
seems the only way is to use definition now..
but, how can I deduce "int2/x is no more than 1/2*epsilon far from A" ?
could u give me a bit more detail?
limf |
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B********e
发帖数: 10014 | 15 同问
我上课常说deduce或者derivation
学生也没意见，只是一直不懂对不对 |
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t******r
发帖数: 209 | 16 Here is recurrence deduction:
if
sum(T(n)-T(i)) = O(n^2) (1
and T(1) = 0 and T(2) = 1,
how to deduce the tightest upperbound of T(n)? |
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t******r
发帖数: 209 | 17 Here is recurrence deduction:
if
sum(T(n)-T(i)) = O(n^2) (1
and T(1) = 0 and T(2) = 1,
how to deduce the tightest upperbound of T(n) complexitiy? |
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b*******i
发帖数: 548 | 18 Donaldson's approach is very different from Thurston.
Thurston can image everything,
while Donaldson can deduce topological results from hard analysis. |
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k*******s
发帖数: 134 | 19 You can not deduce N is prime because N can't be divided by P1, P2, ... Pk,
You can only get N is either
1) a prime number
or
2) a composite number which can be divided by a prime which is larger than
Pk
Both case contradicts the original claim |
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g****a
发帖数: 1520 | 20 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: xiaoshushu (songshu), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 关于近期Fano流形上构造KE度量的工作(转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Aug 31 10:30:12 2013, 美东)
关于近期Fano流形上构造Kähler-Einstein度量的工作
最近公布的Fano流形上构造Kähler-Einstein度量的工作，是Kähler几
何近年来引人注目的进展，专家们正在验证。若验查无误，将证明丘成桐关于Fano流形
的构想与猜测是正确的。Donaldson的稳定性条件是其中的关键步骤，还需在代数几何
上把此概念搞清楚，这样丘猜测就为深刻理解Fano流形奠定了基础。由于近期发生了一
些混淆不清的事件，我们将相关工作的公开记录做了客观、学术的分析，望有助于澄清
事实。本文主要涉及文献的比较，阅读本文无需是专家，数学专业本科高年级学生或研
究生可读懂绝大部分。欢迎关于数学上的批评与指正。
本文分三个部分：
1) 陈-Don... 阅读全帖 |
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g****a
发帖数: 1520 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: xiaoshushu (songshu), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 关于近期Fano流形上构造KE度量的工作(转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Aug 31 10:30:12 2013, 美东)
关于近期Fano流形上构造Kähler-Einstein度量的工作
最近公布的Fano流形上构造Kähler-Einstein度量的工作，是Kähler几
何近年来引人注目的进展，专家们正在验证。若验查无误，将证明丘成桐关于Fano流形
的构想与猜测是正确的。Donaldson的稳定性条件是其中的关键步骤，还需在代数几何
上把此概念搞清楚，这样丘猜测就为深刻理解Fano流形奠定了基础。由于近期发生了一
些混淆不清的事件，我们将相关工作的公开记录做了客观、学术的分析，望有助于澄清
事实。本文主要涉及文献的比较，阅读本文无需是专家，数学专业本科高年级学生或研
究生可读懂绝大部分。欢迎关于数学上的批评与指正。
本文分三个部分：
1) 陈-Don... 阅读全帖 |
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k*****a
发帖数: 1518 | 22 BTW, from Continuum Mechanics point of view, fluid/solid are the same,
can be expressed by same constitutive relations.
gas, if the free distance is still within "continua", their constitutive
equations can also be deduced from more general continuum theory. |
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k********n
发帖数: 756 | 23 At the age of around 30s, you are fully loaded and you are capable of
achieving anything. Since the jargon you used, for instance, "2nd class
doctors", has always been sparkling in your dictionary, I can only deduce
that the mindset of putting yourself in the 2nd class and projecting
yourself is quiet masochistic and sadistic. Or let us just say that you have
been keep yolking your eyeballs up because of your "potential" 1st class
status like the self-titled king James, you will be ending up lik |
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g*******l
发帖数: 58 | 24 Not a cow at all, just find something to share.
Based on the results of a study, the risk of stroke in patients without
valvular heart disease can be classified as low, moderate or high.
The risk is low in patients similar to those enrolled in this trial (without
any of the four risk factors) who, in addition, have no history of
hypertension. In this group, the stroke rate is around 1% per year if these
patients are treated with aspirin alone, which is similar to the stroke rate
in the general a... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******r
发帖数: 182 | 25 The description of vagina and cervix is to exclude answer D and E.
From TSH (normal) and T4 (low), it can be deduced that increase of prolactin
is not due to hypothyroidism (increase of CRH).
Low estradiol and FSH/LH support that GnRH is low or delivery of GnRH is
defective (Answer C).
mucosa |
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j*********t
发帖数: 217 | 26 不是G8，是E8
Jacques Distler有一篇文章批驳这个
http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.2658
There is no "Theory of Everything" inside E8
Jacques Distler, Skip Garibaldi
(Submitted on 16 May 2009)
We analyze certain subgroups of real and complex forms of the Lie group E8,
and deduce that any "Theory of Everything" obtained by embedding the gauge
groups of gravity and the Standard Model into a real or complex form of E8
lacks certain representation-theoretic properties required by physical
reality. The arguments themselves |
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b******r
发帖数: 45 | 27 In QED, I can simply demand that the theory describes a massless spin-1 part
icle and deduce the U(1) gauge symmetry from it. The same logical route exis
ts for QCD, but it's mathematically too complicated so that people adopt the
reverse route: to impose the SU(3) gauge symmetry in the Lagrangian. In sho
rt, gauge symmetries are a mathematical convenience that is so convenient th
at people just build theories on it.
The term "broken gauge symmetry" appears in many places, but it's a bad and
mis... 阅读全帖 |
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z**********g
发帖数: 16 | 28 前言：中国大陆的庄一龙先生独创了斥力子理论，可以用来解释爱因斯坦未能解释的疑
难问题，目前已经得到国内科学界某些人的关注，有兴趣的科学界人士可以了解一下斥
力子的基本理论。
我是庄一龙的朋友，目前暂时在美国居住，受其委托，在本站发表他的文章，因为未名
网站在国内是被屏蔽的。
如果想进一步了解该理论，请在网上留言，我会和您联系的。
下面我把对这个理论的大致介绍发表在这里。
2010年12月)中国科学院《科技促进发展》杂志文章：
斥力子理论
撰文 张宇
上海科技管理干部学院庄一龙副教授所创立的“斥力子理论”是一种物理哲学理论，该
理论认为，地面的物体一旦动起来，不管方向如何，都具有一种挣脱地球引力的能力，
就好象物体吸收了一种对抗万有引力的物质。
该理论把普朗克能量子看作是一种具有对抗万有引力能力的实物粒子，称它为“斥力子
”，并认为物体运动状态的改变，就是由于吸收或释放斥力子造成的，作用力的过程是
实实在在的物质转移过程，通过斥力子的转移，斥力子所具有的质量、能量、动量就会
叠加到速度增加的物体上去，造成运动物体的相对性效应。反引力实物能量粒子的引入
，打破了物理学理论的“引力论”框架，... 阅读全帖 |
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z**********g
发帖数: 16 | 29 继续发表有关斥力子的文章，请指正。
“斥力子理论”对物理学的影响1
庄一龙
近年来，由中国学者创立的“斥力子理论”，经过中国科学院《科技促进发展》《
科技成果管理与研究》、《科技中国》、《中国科技财富》、《中国科技成果》等主流
科技杂志报导后，引起了学术界广泛重视。那么，这一理论究竟有那些观点震动了学术
界，值得人们如此关注呢？
“斥力子理论” 是一种新物质作用理论，实际上也是一种物理哲学理论。它的代
表性文章是《论“斥力子”的存在及其意义》，另外还包括《相对性效应和牛顿定律的
本质》、《物理学中精细结构常数的理论推导与解释》等几十篇论文。同牛顿的苹果从
树上掉下来的万有引力理论相对应，这是一个可称作“苹果如何转移到树上去的‘万有
斥力’理论”。该理论认为，地面的物体一旦动起来，不管方向如何，都具有一种挣脱
地球引力的能力，就好象物体吸收了一种对抗万有引力的物质那样。“斥力子理论”把
普朗克能量子看作是一种对抗引力的实物粒子，称它为“斥力子”，并认为物体运动状
态的改变就是由于吸收或释放斥力子造成的。
在思维方法上，它有两个根本突破：其一,是把抽象的能量概念实物化，使能量有
一个实物载... 阅读全帖 |
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z**********g
发帖数: 16 | 30 Thesis about the relationship between electron charge
value and electron moving velocity
Yilong Zhuang*
Shanghai Institute of Science and Technology Administration
Jiading,Shanghai 201800
Abstract: “The value of charge has no changes”has not been proved,
but is admitted as a truth.Now that the electron mass can been changed with
it’s moving velocity,then electric charges,as the expression of the
substance’s nature,can be changed accordingly.Following this clue,th... 阅读全帖 |
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l***y
发帖数: 1166 | 31 Tesla's aether concept
特斯拉的以太概念
It is important to correctly comprehend Tesla's unique aether concept as
several popular researchers in the field have not done. Tesla's aether is
analogous to the classical aether "gas" theory.
正确地理解特斯拉独特的以太概念是重要的，因为几位流行的研究者都没有做过这个领
域的研究。特斯拉的以太是类似于古典的以太“气体”理论。
"Long ago he recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary
substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha or
luminiferous ether, acted upon by the life giving Prana or ... 阅读全帖 |
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k***g
发帖数: 7244 | 32 呵呵，看来上面的帖子，有些糊涂，因为各方的观点弄得不是很明白。有几个问题：
【to restless】
1）呵呵， game theory 不是一个paradigm啊，这个好象有几位很著名的政治学家都强调
过的，game theory (或是更广泛的--实证政治理论）只是一种方法（methodology)，它
只是提供了一个deductive的工具。按照Lakatos的那一套东东，Game
Theory可以作为paradigm的辅助工具。首先由几个core assumption，然后利用game
theory deduce出来testable hypothesis，再用empirical的东西验证。举个例子，IR中
的neo-R和neo-L关于relative gains 和 absolute gains的争论都在用game theory，因
为它是 paradigm-independent的。
2）呵呵，还有 game theory的影响好像也不止于negotiation 和joint decision
making，就像1）里说的那样，它的dedective power对于IR整个 |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 33 【 以下文字转载自 PsychoAnalysis 讨论区 】
发信人: Commissar (柯密同志), 信区: PsychoAnalysis
标 题: Jung's The Red Book
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 7 14:31:41 2013, 美东)
For more than 25 years, pioneer psychologist and seeker Carl Jung's Red Book
was hidden away inside a Swiss bank vault. A huge lovely volume bound in
red leather, also known as Liber Novus (The New Book), the book is
essentially Jung's personal journals written in calligraphy and gorgeously
illuminated during a very strange period in his life. The Red B... 阅读全帖 |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 34 【 以下文字转载自 PsychoAnalysis 讨论区 】
发信人: Commissar (柯密同志), 信区: PsychoAnalysis
标 题: Jung's The Red Book
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 7 14:31:41 2013, 美东)
For more than 25 years, pioneer psychologist and seeker Carl Jung's Red Book
was hidden away inside a Swiss bank vault. A huge lovely volume bound in
red leather, also known as Liber Novus (The New Book), the book is
essentially Jung's personal journals written in calligraphy and gorgeously
illuminated during a very strange period in his life. The Red B... 阅读全帖 |
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J******d
发帖数: 506 | 35 Again, if you believe there is a correlation between HH jobs and real jobs,
you can still deduce something from the data.
Macro economic data is never clean enough for us to make arguments without
assumptions I reckon. |
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m******n
发帖数: 354 | 36 actually i have done it already, see the formel (1) in my first post,
you can deduce that
Ln(S_T/S_0) = sigma*sqrt(T)*((2k-n)/sqrt(n))
k is binomial distributed,
so E(k) = np, V(k)= np(1-p), you know that fact?
i think you are actually intrested in how to show V(k) = np(1-p), you can
find it in any probability text book
then you can see direct see V(Ln(S_T/S_0)) = sigma^2*T,
the trick is to use the features of binomial distribution. |
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x********9
发帖数: 31 | 37 如果题目让证明的东西没有错，那么tau的 expectation肯定是正无穷，因为如果ruin
probability <1， 那么with positive probability ,tau = +\inf, so the
expectation is \inf.
You should try to use Markov chain.
let p_n denotes the probability of hitting -10 starting from n.
p_{-10} =1, p_{\inf} = 0,
then p satisfies p_{n} = 0.5*p_{n-1} + 0.5*p_{n+2}
this sequence can be solved in closed form and with the boundary conditions
, we can deduce
p_{n} = ((\sqrt{5}-1)/2)^{n+10} |
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c********l
发帖数: 8138 | 38 Former SAC Manager Mathew Martoma Found Guilty in Insider Case
By CHRISTOPHER M. MATTHEWS And JOHN CARREYROU
Updated Feb. 6, 2014 3:49 p.m. ET
Mathew Martoma, a former SAC Capital Advisors portfolio manager, leaves
federal court in New York on Thursday with his wife, Rosemary. A jury
Thursday convicted Mr. Martoma of insider trading. Bloomberg News
A jury found former SAC Capital Advisors LP portfolio manager Mathew Martoma
guilty of insider trading, a verdict that burnishes prosecutors' virtual... 阅读全帖 |
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k*****n
发帖数: 117 | 39 Below are taken from wikipedia. In practice, all model assumptions can be
violated:
The Black–Scholes model assumes that the market consists of at least one
risky asset, usually called the stock, and one riskless asset, usually
called the money market, cash, or bond.
Now we make assumptions on the assets (which explain their names):
(riskless rate) The rate of return on the riskless asset is constant and
thus called the risk-free interest rate.
(random walk) The instantaneous log returns... 阅读全帖 |
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y****e
发帖数: 71 | 40
Protein sequence is very hard to do. In fact, people all sequence DNA, then
deduce protein sequence.
Also, you might form unstable mRNA, since most amino acids have more than
one
codon, you do not know which one you should use.
Even though, people still did this in small peptides synthesis. However, I
did not hear anyone do the same thing to big proteins. |
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 41 why being so lazy? It is not hard at all to deduce the formula on your own. |
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b**********e
发帖数: 61 | 42 A drug trial gives the result that the drug works better than the placebo
, with 95% confidence. What exactly does this statement mean? What further
assumptions are needed to be able to deduce that the probability of the drug
working is actually 95%? |
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T*******I
发帖数: 5138 | 43 关于随机变量与概率论之间的一个关系
2012/08/02日记
随机变量是统计学和概率中最重要的概念。在整个数理统计学领域有一种说法是，
概率论是统计学的基础，而测度论是概率论的基础，由此，统计学被称为了一门纯粹的
数学分支学科。换句话说，这意味着一个非数学背景出生的人将没有可能性在统计学的
方法论领域做出有实质意义的贡献。他们将不会被那些数学背景的统计学家们放在眼里。
概率论以纯数学的语言对随机变量作了一种数学意义上的抽象而又严格的定义和解
释：一个随机变量是定义在其概率空间上的一个可测函数。这个概念的定义在非数学背
景的统计学家们看来是一个无法被直观理解或晦涩的陈述。
其实，我们应该知道，一个随机变量并非存在于概率论中，而是存在于现实世界里
，而现实世界是一个直观且容易被一般人类的智力所理解的存在。概率论不过是在基于
某种关于现实世界中随机变量的基本认识的基础上给出的一种理论性的解释。一旦关于
随机变量的基本认识得到深化和发展，概率论中关于它的理论性解释也就应该会被改变
。因此，当一个人谈论关于随机变量是什么... 阅读全帖 |
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j**e
发帖数: 1059 | 44 we, the readers who spent sometime reading chinanews and has some brain
to deduce from thorton's posts, clearly not you. |
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t****n
发帖数: 2601 | 45 'we, the reader' 'has some brain'
’has‘？
靠，几个老将读者合用一个brain啊？怪不得。
哈哈
发信人: jihe (何必 -- 请置顶 ), 信区: Complain
标 题: Re: 总结一下刚才cn版的问题，
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 30 17:46:37 2008)
we, the readers who spent sometime reading chinanews and has some brain
to deduce from thorton's posts, clearly not you. |
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t****n
发帖数: 2601 | 46 老将有时间投诉，不如恶补初中英语，提高自己水平
sometime和some time要分清
坏英语浪费别人时间，害人害己啊，吼吼。
发信人: 【jihe (何必 -- 请置顶 )】, 信区: Complain
标 题: Re: 总结一下刚才cn版的问题，
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 30 17:46:37 2008)
we, the readers who spent sometime reading chinanews and has some brain
to deduce from thorton's posts, clearly not you. |
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I***i
发帖数: 14557 | 47 （才知道，龙虾竟然是很长寿的动物。）
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/30/lobster-age_n_2215990.
Lobster Age Shown By Counting Its Rings Like A Tree, Study Reveals
PORTLAND, Maine -- For the first time, scientists have figured out how to
determine the age of a lobster – by counting its rings, like a tree.
Nobody knows how old lobsters can live to be; some people estimate they live
to more than 100.
But knowing – rather than simply guessing – their age and that of other
shellfish could help scientists better u... 阅读全帖 |
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fatboyslim (fatboyslim) 于 (Tue Oct 17 12:25:48 2006) 提到:
just too risky. take it to a qualified mechanic for a thorough check.
deducate all the suggested repair from the price.
but I would just pass... too risky
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hauppauge (蓓) 于 (Tue Oct 17 13:49:18 2006) 提到:
Check engine的灯亮着，但是车还可以开，是不是说明不是什么大问题。我有个朋友开
的是chevy，他的check engine的灯就亮着，修了一次也没有修好，就那么一直开着。
长岛哪里有比较好的saab修理厂，想去检查一下。
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p*****r
发帖数: 1883 | 49
干脆走保险，花个deducible的钱，猛修一下 |
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g**e
发帖数: 6127 | 50 也跟风quote了一下，geico给了半年$463， 50k/100k limit, 500 deducible
不知道真假 |
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