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发帖数: 923 | 1 well said:
RIO DE JANEIRO - Swimming star Lilly King took her crusade against doping to
a new level following her victory in the 100-meter breaststroke final on
Monday, by insisting that American athletes previously banned for drug
offenses should have been kicked off the United States team.
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"I have to respect (the track authorities') decision even if it is something
I don't necessarily agree with," King said. "No, do I think people who have
been caught doping should be on the team? They s... 阅读全帖 |
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d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 2 放心吧, 现在这帮跳出来的crusaders, 最后能抓出一票dopers来 |
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g********n
发帖数: 2314 | 3 原来是'Performance profiling' could help to catch cheater 现在是 '
Performance profiling' could help to dispel doubts.
Why great Olympic feats raise suspicions
'Performance profiling' could help to dispel doubts.
Ewen Callaway
01 August 2012 Corrected: 03 August 2012
Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen broke the world record for the women's 400-metre
individual medley event at the Olympic Games on 28 July.
L. NEAL /AFP / GETTY IMAGES
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p********y
发帖数: 5141 | 4 It is a bit annoying to see a ex-doper won the Olympic road race. I was keep
questioning myself whether he is clean. The difference between Millar and
Vino on dopping is similar to the attitude taken by German and Japan on WWII
. Hi Vino, doping will never be the past which you can put away.
Should doper ever be allowed to be back to pro cycling? If not, will it make
pro cycling a field which is cleaner?
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 5 Copied from somewhere
Let's see who gets those titles, now that Armstrong is stripped.
2005 - Basso (convicted doper)
2004 - Kloden (convicted doper)
2003 - Ulrich (admitted doper)
2002 - Beloki (Fuentes patient - timely retired during doping investigation)
2001 - Ulrich
2000 - Ulrich
1999 - Zulle - (Implicated in Festina)
What's the point of USADA strip the title from a doper and give to another
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发帖数: 6210 | 6 Why great Olympic feats raise suspicions
‘Nationality profiling’ could help to catch cheaters
The New Voice
At the Olympics, how great is too great? That question has dogged American
swimmer Michael Phelps after the 27-year-old shattered the world record of
the most decorated Olympian of on Friday. In the wake of that race, some
swimming experts wondered whether Phelps’s win was aided by performance-
enhancing drugs. He has never tested positive for a banned substance and the
International Olymp... 阅读全帖 |
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x********o
发帖数: 1442 | 7 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
发信人: xiaobenmao (水晶瓶子), 信区: Olympics
标 题: 对Nature失望透顶
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 2 14:20:55 2012, 美东)
Nature太让我失望了，竟然发了这么一篇无论逻辑还是数据分析都漏洞百出的的狗屎文
章。
At the Olympics, how fast is too fast? That question has dogged Chinese
swimmer Ye Shiwen after the 16-year-old shattered the world record in the
women's 400-metre individual medley (400 IM) on Saturday. In the wake of
that race, some swimming experts wondered whether Ye’s win was aided by
performance-enhancing drugs. She has n... 阅读全帖 |
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X****i
发帖数: 492 | 8 【 以下文字转载自 Olympics 讨论区 】
发信人: XianDi (先帝), 信区: Olympics
标 题: Re: nature的原文可以找到么
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 3 09:30:00 2012, 美东)
找到了：
Why Great Olympic Feats Raise Suspicions: Scientific American
“Performance profiling” could help catch athletes who use banned performan
ce-enhancing drugs
From Nature magazine
At the Olympics, how fast is too fast? That question has dogged Chinese swim
mer Ye Shiwen after the 16-year-old shattered the world record in the women'
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发帖数: 1 | 9 The difference between the Australian doper and SunYang is the Aussie doper
did dope positive but Sun didn’t!!
for Sun The facts at the current stage are simple and clear :
First, the vile Sun’s security guard broke was deemed iilegal and was done
without proper clearence that they had enquired about before they destroyed
it.
Second, two of the three testers are unqualified and unauthorized. a simple
question to ask yourself: If you are an athelete, will you allow testers who
are not qulified an... 阅读全帖 |
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t******l
发帖数: 10908 | 10 其实这不算啥，我娃看伦敦奥运会长跑决赛的时候，笔记本上一查，说这就是个 doper
's run，前几名都是 doper。。。
：反正我不吃药，到时后最后一名坐等补发奖牌，说不定还能得金牌呢 |
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发帖数: 228 | 11 My letter to the editors of Nature. May not be a good one. For your
reference only.
Dear Editors,
Nature has often been thought to represent one of the highest standards in
scientific publication, thanks to the collaborative works from editors,
authors and reviews in many years. With that in mind, I was both surprised
and disgusted by the recent article from Nature.com titled "Why great
Olympic feats raise suspicions" http://www.nature.com/news/why-great-olympic-feats-raise-suspicions-1.11109.... 阅读全帖 |
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z*i
发帖数: 58873 | 12 ”道德呢 伦理呢“
Wow such a 振聋发聩的voice. 绝对应该好好查查在所有有可能involved的地方：
1. New York? No, the "classy" organization has become glassy long time ago.
Also the Darth Vader in suits parades on Park Ave everyday. It simply can't
survive in New York...
2. Washington state? Unlikely it is there. Too many dopers and apples there.
Apples+Dopers=Sin, according to THE rule book...
3. Massachusetts? Nay, last time checked， it was deflated and shot dead.
Some people even suggested it was on tape even though we are not ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4426 | 13 ft，evidence是球迷能掌握的么？要是球迷都有evidence了，那就已经结案了。
armstrong这个case的影响，显然不局限在自行车领域了。
所有的运动，现在都在为这个头疼。
你没看以前说起tennis的药检，几乎所有players都抱怨太严了什么的（其实根本就不
严）。
结果去年armstrong事发没多久，大家的口风都转了。
我现在对几乎所有职业体育的干净程度表示怀疑。
这里的人都知道我是铁杆费粉，但是现在我觉得federer也有不小可能是doper。
至于nadal，murray，ferrer，我觉得就是100％。joker我也相当怀疑。
讲逻辑的话，建议你好好去研究一下itf对药检的规定。
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发帖数: 654 | 14 Does he know something?
http://espn.go.com/tennis/blog/_/name/bodo_peter/id/9010025/ten
There are all different kinds of "clean," and no sport covers more of the
bases in that regard than tennis.
When was the last time you read about a tennis player charged with DWI? When
was the last time a tennis player was arrested for toting a weapon more
lethal than a Babolat Aeropro Drive? When was the last time the top athletes
in another sport clamored for an improved drug-testing regimen?
Andy Murray ha... 阅读全帖 |
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z**c
发帖数: 7595 | 15 往Nature灌水那是一大波人的终身梦想，包括我的老板 ：）
http://club.kdnet.net/dispbbs.asp?page=1&boardid=1&id=8518328
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Why great Olympic feats raisesuspicions
""""Performanceprofiling"""" could help to catch cheaters in sport.
· Ewen Callaway
01 August 2012
At the Olympics,how fast is too fast? That question has dogged Chinese
swimmer Ye Shiwen afterthe 16-year-old shattered the world record in the
women""""s 400-metre individualmedley (400 IM) on Saturday. In the wake of
that race, some swimming expe... 阅读全帖 |
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p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 16 他有没有doping,其实都无所谓。如果没有用过，那他比他那个年代的dopers都厉害，
要是真的用了doping了，那他也是所有dopers里最快的. |
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m*********k
发帖数: 10521 | 17 =====================================================================
=========================Nature质疑叶诗文事件========================
============================网友回复及去信===========================
发信人: sanyanghu (忍者无敌之不去股票版), 信区: Olympics
标 题: 大家继续评论nature上的那个文章，保持热度（附我的评论）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 6 12:03:47 2012, 美东)
大家继续跟进！！
（my recent comments):
I am happy to see that Nature started to do the right thing by adding
Laijiang's comments which was intentionally deleted before for some reasons.
N... 阅读全帖 |
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m**c
发帖数: 7349 | 20 TUE, a doper's dupe........ |
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b******k
发帖数: 10 | 21 这几天经历的太多。感动、欣喜、愤怒、委屈、绝望、惊讶，只能说伦敦这些天带给我
们的真的很难一时消化。如果说以前西方世界的虚伪和霸权只是含蓄的表露，那么这次
的露骨真是令人瞠目结舌。从对叶诗文的无端诽谤到羽毛球女双事件的最后处理，以及
自行车比赛的判罚等等，无需多重复，其间西方媒体的双重标准让很多人惊诧！这里面
的是是非非讨论的已经够多，其中多次提到了“话语权”，我不禁想这“话语权”究竟
是什么？
当大家知道年仅16岁的叶诗文被无耻恶毒的指责时，相信许多生活在海外的人做过一件
事，就是默默的打开电脑，在google中输入“Ye Shiwen Doping”，无非想看看大多
数主流的西方媒体是怎么评论的，或者说心存一丝“侥幸”地渴望看到有良知的媒体出
来为这样一个单纯的小姑娘辟谣。可是，你绝望了。尽管有国际奥委会的人出来澄清事
实，大多数媒体还都是引用John Leonard的充满偏见的所谓“证据”，即使提及奥委会
药检的结果，也是不忘接连说药检并不能证实她的清白。无法不让我们中国人抓心挠肝
。这是西方媒体“聪明”的地方，他们不会在新闻中直接表达对你的否定，而是通过
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 23 行,这姑娘还行,至少比较consistent.
她说的显然是加特林,泰森给这票. |
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k*********v
发帖数: 923 | 24 When asked if U.S. athletes who have fallen foul of the drug testers, such
as sprinters Justin Gatlin and Tyson Gay, deserved to be in Rio, King, 19,
pulled no punches. |
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发帖数: 1 | 25 小妞儿厉害
to
something
have
unfortunate |
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h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 28 大麻算什么 我们总统这代年轻时候估计没几个没吸过几口
: Phelps是吸大麻照片被拍到吧
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v****e
发帖数: 10715 | 29 自己一把一把的吃 还能说出这话，心理真心强大
to
something
have
unfortunate |
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a******g
发帖数: 13519 | 30 吸毒就没事？马拉多纳就是吸海洛因被踹出世界杯的。 |
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v****e
发帖数: 10715 | 33 美国药好，等到版本升级了，就把旧版的放到禁药里去，lillynking这么牛气显然是用
上新产品了 |
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S****a
发帖数: 2568 | 35 她这是顾头不顾腚的说法，她是先见到加特林，盖伊，还是先见到艾佛莫娃，我敢打包
票记者有美国代表团一起party的照片。
[在 Maverick (好吃不过饺子) 的大作中提到：]
:行,这姑娘还行,至少比较consistent.
:她说的显然是加特林,泰森给这票. |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 38 现在游泳纪录年年涨，都是药罐子在支撑，你天赋再好也抵不过。你不用可能连决赛都
进不了。
总不会天赋好的都集中在这个年代吧。 |
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a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 39 这种叫得响的早晚出事
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 11 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 40 Heroin proves a formidable foe in suburban Ohio county
HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) — Scenes from a community under siege:
— It's been a hectic morning for the Butler County coroner, who's
investigating three new deaths, all of them suspected heroin overdoses. If
Dr. Lisa Mannix's office confirms heroin as the cause, they will add to a
deadly pace well ahead of last year's record toll.
— Less than a mile away, Steve Monnin, wearing a sleeveless neon-green
shirt with the message "God is Good," spreads out... 阅读全帖 |
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e****x
发帖数: 77 | 41 tek is a doper. so is nomar.
be
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b********n
发帖数: 4256 | 42 and he was a doper...... |
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b********n
发帖数: 4256 | 43 小声说一句哈：Albert is a doper...呵呵。 |
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 44 the man is a better rider and a better doper. what not to love? to me,
selling out a friend is a lot worse than systematic doping. |
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 45 Courtesy of Gentleman's Quarterly,
http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201008/andrew-corsello-on-lance-armstrong-doping-controversy
Lie Strong
Is Lance Armstrong a doper? At this point, that is officially irrelevant.
Lance, you've got your story, and even if you're lying through your teeth,
we need you to stick to it.
By Andrew Corsello
August 2010
Lie to me. I promise I'll believe. —Sheryl Crow, "Strong Enough"
Look, I'm not saying Lance Armstrong is lying. How could I? Nothing of the
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p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 46 是的，我也觉得奇怪，这个药可以帮助人lose weight， 但是也有副作用，比如
dehydrate,所以对他好像没有什么多大的作用，副作用倒是蛮大。
他好像要申诉了，要求查sample B, 具体是什么我也不清楚，不过要是sample B 也是
positive的话，他要上诉是poisoning.
我个人不大相信他是doper。 |
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j********l
发帖数: 551 | 47 Me too.(rooting for Vino)
And Wiggins and Froome are both dopers.
doped
point, |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 48 可笑的是，即便胳膊壮被取消title，候补的估计都是dopers，在那个年代，有不嗑药
的在前几名么？ |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 49 After some deep thought, I decided to take the yellow band off my wrist. Not
that I don't support cancer fighting anymore, I just couldn't justify
supporting a foundation setup and promoted by LA anymore.
I lost my dad to cancer last summer, so fighting cancer and raising cancer
awareness would still be my life-long mission. That will never change.
LA is still a great cyclist (for beating other dopers and stood on top of
the TdF podium 7 times), and he won his own war against cancer. For these
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