v********1 发帖数: 319 | 1 West and east Jin plus southern and northern dynasties spans only ~300 years
You don't even have the basic idea about Chinese history. |
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p**2 发帖数: 87 | 2 A few titled ladies from Ming's court lived well into Qing dynasty with high
age.
Qing treated them well.
Qing granted OK post-death titles to 崇祯 and his wife. |
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l********r 发帖数: 123 | 3 (轉自人人網)
現在壹些中國人,為了把成吉思汗吹成中國人,已經到了令人發指的地步。壹開始在教
科書上吹,鬧成了國際笑柄。後來又弄出了所謂“蒙古人起源於中國”“外蒙人是內蒙
人奴隸”的可笑謬論。而最近網絡上出現了壹段視頻,內容居然是上海復旦大學生命科
學學院教授李輝通過基因檢測斷定成吉思汗是的父系是漢人,而且還號稱在國際上發表
了相關論文。然後筆者就用英文搜索李輝對外發表的這篇論文,於是有趣的東西出現了。
以下就是上海復旦大學復旦大學生命科學學院教授王傳超和李輝在國際上對外發表的論
文中提及成吉思汗的部分:
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Inferring human history in East Asia from Y chromosomes
Chuan-Chao Wang and Hui Li*
Haplogroup O-M175 is the largest haplogroup in East Asia, comprising
roughly 75% of the Chinese and more than half of the Japanese populat... 阅读全帖 |
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s***i 发帖数: 10182 | 4 随便wiki一下就知道是胡扯了
The stirrup was one of the milestones in saddle development. The first
stirrup-like object was invented in India in the 2nd century BC, and
consisted of a simple leather strap in which the rider's toe was placed. It
offered very little support, however. The nomadic tribes in northern China
are thought to have been the inventors of the modern stirrup, but the first
dependable representation of a rider with paired stirrups was found in China
in a Jin Dynasty tomb of about AD 302.[1... 阅读全帖 |
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o**n 发帖数: 2130 | 5 The first bristle toothbrush, resembling the modern toothbrush, was found in
China during the Tang Dynasty (619–907) and used hog bristle.[4][9] The
bristles were sourced from hogs living in Siberia and northern China because
the colder temperatures provided firmer bristles. They were then attached
to a handle manufactured from bamboo or bone, forming a toothbrush.[3] In
1223, Japanese Zen master Dōgen Kigen recorded on Shōbōgenzō that he saw
monks in China clean their teeth with brushes made of... 阅读全帖 |
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m***n 发帖数: 12188 | 6 East Rome (Byzantine) : 1,000 years
Zhou dynasty: 800 years |
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b**********s 发帖数: 9531 | 7 问题的关键在于怎么定义朝代。朝代按中国的定义(社稷),可以延伸到东亚,最长应
该算周。但仔细想想,那个周其实名不符实,后面的春秋战国都不买天子的帐。我们古
人写史分东汉西汉,南宋北宋还是对的。东汉西汉明摆着,中间有王莽。南宋是赵构建
立的,是北宋皇帝的儿子,问题在于赵构当皇帝没有北宋政府的授权(他老爸老哥没有
指定他,在先主去世没有遗嘱的情况下太后也有决定权,所以我说没有原宋朝廷的授权
),另外事实上北宋高层几乎都被俘虏了,所以南宋是草创的,单成一朝,尽管南宋自
己宣称和北宋是相连的。
如果按世界史来算,定义就复杂了,算dynasty,算政权。如果算政权,如果是和平颠覆
怎么算(比如选举,光荣革命)? |
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d********t 发帖数: 837 | 8 从tetrarchy到Constantine, 从Valens到Theodosius, 都是地方门阀乘乱统一全国的,
这种跟黄袍加身,关陇门阀起事有什么本质区别? 这么算的话从隋到宋都可以算一个
朝代了。东罗马从Constatine算起都换了几茬了,中间还有大乱无主的时候,就从你洋
爹dynasty的定义上来讲也有十七八个朝代了。
发现越是言必称希腊罗马的,越是对欧洲史一知半解就瞎忽悠。 |
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f**********4 发帖数: 2617 | 9 每一次玩文明都是激发我了解新历史的过程。Civ5 Brave New World里新增文明:屠华
先锋大印尼以及其新奇迹”婆罗浮屠“(Borobudur),激起了俺的兴趣。婆罗浮屠位
于爪哇岛中部,是世界现存最大的佛教崇拜遗址。具体情况我也不必从wiki批发了,可
自行搜索。
这里想说的是它的兴建时间是公元9世纪,以除了中国和印度以外的东亚-东南亚世界的
标准来说,非常的早且大(比较一下,更加有名的吴哥窟是12世纪的,缅甸瑞光大金塔
始建差不多同时,但是很小,是后代加高的)。这个奇迹出现在当时政治史非常模糊的
印尼,是让我感到惊奇的,打破了我以前对印尼土人的一些偏见。修建该奇迹的
Saliendra王朝,貌似并没有在中国史料里有同时期的记录,现在被翻译成”岳帝“或
者”山帝“王朝。这是因为印尼语言对这个王朝统治者头衔的释义是:山大王(Lord
of the Mountain)。
关于”岳帝王朝“(让我们还是用好听点儿的字眼)的起源,现在貌似有三种说法,两
种外来说,一种本土说。一种可能是来自印度东部的羯陵伽(Kalinga)。对孔雀王朝
的阿育王故事有所了解的同学应该知道,传说中阿育王... 阅读全帖 |
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z**********e 发帖数: 22064 | 10 张广达专访:中国历史的实态与表述
李丹婕
2015-02-15 09:57
【编者按】台湾中央研究院院士、台湾政治大学历史系讲座教授张广达先生近年来持续
关注十九世纪末叶二十世纪初叶汉学研究在中、日、俄、法、美等不同国家 的转型特
色,其中对法国方面就以沙畹为例进行了深入剖析。在张先生看来,沙畹的最大贡献可
以归结于一点:他以亲自的践行为当代汉学确立了专业规范 (professional
standards),与当代同侪相比,他更卓有成效地将汉学这一专业训练(professional
training/discipline)引上了现代学术研究的轨道。十九世纪末二十世纪初,汉学不
再仅仅是西方传教士、外交家等业余者的嗜好了。
1814 年法兰西学院创设“汉语和鞑靼-满语语言与文学”讲座,是法国现代汉学建立的
标志性事件,迄今已逾两百周年;刚刚到来的2015年,又恰逢沙畹诞辰一百五十周年。
澎湃新闻因而邀请张广达先生就沙畹及其所代表的法国现代汉学形成之初的诸多特征做
些介绍。
访谈分上下两篇,以下为下篇。
埃玛纽埃尔-爱德华·沙畹 ,简称沙畹,是学术界公认的19世纪末20世纪初世界上最有
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K*****2 发帖数: 9308 | 11 通常不会说帝国,都是王朝,英文里面也没有han empire这个词,只有han dynasty。 |
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D********i 发帖数: 514 | 12 Check your own words:
后来长平出结果后,李牧就带着那10万军队缩回邯郸了。后来秦国
继续攻赵国,被李牧打的挺惨。秦国之后基本不再碰赵国了,继续搞
韩国和魏国。直到灭了韩魏,外加李牧已死,才攒了足够实力再灭赵。
After googling, don't you think you were making up your own stories? At the
time of 长平, 李牧 is simply non-existent in historical events.
赵国=/=代国. Just like everyone knows that Ming Dynasty was ceased in 1644,
although their royal powers existed for decades more. |
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 13 没有马蹬会骑射的多了,匈奴就是
亚述在马蹬之前很久就有枪骑兵,马蹬不是必需的。
某骑兵专家撰文论没有马蹬如何冲击:
http://www.classicalfencing.com/articles/shock.php
It has also been asserted that modern reenactment and experimental
archaeology has shown that the stirrup provides very little benefit for a
mounted lancer, and a cantled saddle and spurs have a greater effect.[
dubious – discuss] White noted the importance of the prior emergence of the
saddle, but argued, "The stirrup made possible—although it did not demand
—a vastly more effective mode... 阅读全帖 |
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m***n 发帖数: 12188 | 14 历史写作的变化巨大,不久以前的作品的许多说法,在今天很多都是禁忌,比如种族主
义的描述。
英国 Will Durant 写的名著《世界文明史》的第一卷《Our oriental heritage 》。
从名字看就是明显的西方中心。写于上世纪初期,其中对中国的描写还不错。我发现,
从16世纪到20世纪初期,凡是对东方有一点了解的,基本都是对中国观感不错。
但是在50年代以后,也就是中共上台,西方历史著作对中国人整体的评价急转直下了。
抄录几段有趣的:
作者说中国人总体上是亚洲最优秀种族。
The Chinese vary in stature, being shorter and weaker in the south, taller
and stronger in the north; in general they are the most vigorous people in
Asia.
They show great physical stamina, magnificent courage, exceptional
resistance to disease, and a cl... 阅读全帖 |
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o**********e 发帖数: 18403 | 15
re. 孝was a heuristic, widely used during
Han dynasty, in order to educate and select
trustworthy bureaucrats (忠).
Examination is the 2nd heuristics, in order to
supplement and improve 忠孝's results.
敝帚自珍明珠蒙尘(VIII) 孝文化绝对珍贵
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/History/32145081.html
The Chinese heuristics were unique and
spectacularly successful among pre-industrial
societies. I don't understand why post-industrial Chinese
or anybody could look down their noses on the ancient Chinese. |
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 16
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If you believe in 鲧和禹治水, then doesn't believe in existence of 夏 would
be very foolish. 治水 is not something that can be accomplished by a mere
tribe, even a very powerful tribe. Whatever entity that take on this kind
of project would have to have a very large base population, very organized
society, have very advanced tool making skills and agriculture for its day,
must have a system for food storage and distribution, enough engineering
skills, and book keeping methods. Any "tribe" that pos... 阅读全帖 |
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h******i 发帖数: 21077 | 17 That were true if and only if resources are absolutely evenly distributed.
Especially in Mao's concentrated government it was impossible.
Even in Deng's dynasty, there are still starving people.
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h******i 发帖数: 21077 | 18 hehe
Science is based on scientific methods.
In ancient era, nobody really knew Science.
You are defining GDP in the Song Dynasty lol. |
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Z****a 发帖数: 5434 | 19 夏朝就算存在,也不会是Summer Dynasty的意思 |
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f**********4 发帖数: 2617 | 20 时间轴0:08 公元800-900年:
视频的意思大约是波兰先民选择在这片土地上定居,开始了村庄,城市,国家的发展过
程。波兰人属于斯拉夫民族的西支。语言上和东支(乌克兰,俄罗斯等,中世纪称“罗
斯”)以及南支(克罗地亚,塞尔维亚等)的斯拉夫人都是同源的。同样属于西支的捷
克人和波兰人在血缘和语言上则更加接近,可算亲兄弟。和其它民族一样,波兰也有自
己民族的起源神话。话说有三个亲兄弟分别叫做莱赫(Lech),切赫(Cech)和罗斯(
Rus)的有一天分头出去打猎。三人分别选择了北,西,东三个方向追逐自己的猎物。
莱赫在北上的途中遇见了一头巨大的白鹰。他在这里定居下来,成为了波兰人的先祖,
并以白鹰作为波兰的象征一直至今,他的名字也演化成为波兰民族的别称”莱契亚“(
Lechia)。而切赫和罗斯则分别成为了捷克(波希米亚)和罗斯人的先祖。这个传说基
本体现了斯拉夫人在民族大迁徙时代的运动过程,唯独漏掉了南斯拉夫。
实际上在波兰这片土地上最早见于史载的居民并非斯拉夫人,而是属于日耳曼民族的哥
特人和汪达尔人。他们早在罗马帝国时代就从自己寒冷的老家斯堪迪纳维亚半岛跨海移
居至此。作为民族大迁... 阅读全帖 |
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w***u 发帖数: 17713 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: wwwhu (fc), 信区: Military
标 题: 共济会在中国最辉煌的时刻
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 18 14:04:05 2016, 美东)
就是朱元璋采用明教的名字给自己朝代取名:Dynasty of Illuminatti
完全继承了“石人一只眼"的精神遗产,石匠雕出来的一只眼图腾
石匠会对中国的渗透始于蒙古野蛮人对欧亚大陆的破坏,要推翻蒙古人的统治,不仅要
在欧洲,近东,中东西亚,印度南亚次大陆抵抗,更需要在中国消灭元朝统治者,于是
一场秘密组织组织的全世界抵抗运动展开了...
朱明建立后,明教恢复一向的低调和隐蔽...
有明三百年,亡于鞑子,于是有天地会洪门,反清复明,时至今日,海外洪门、致公堂
都是石匠会分舵,孙文等人都是明面上的共济会成员,我党主要成员如周恩来也是秘密
成员。民国共和国成立后,明教又无声无息了。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 23 中商文化和考古学商史编年的新视野
----畏友唐际根教授《考古与文化遗产论集》一书述评
科学出版社最近出版了著名考古学家、中国社会科学院考古研究所研究员、研究生院教
授、伦敦大学考古学博士唐际根教授的大作《考古与文化遗产论集》一书,我虽治商周
彝铭研究有年,然才疏学浅加之缺乏田野考古实践,所以至今也不敢归队到专业考古学
科研人员行列之中。蒙唐兄不弃,使我有机会在第一时间内就得到了他的赠书。通读之
下,多有振聋发聩、耳目一新之感,骨鲠在喉,欲吐之而快,因成是文!
该书收录了唐际根教授从事商代考古学专题研究的学术论文共33篇,从内容上看,作者
先后分为考古学理论与方法、商研究、铁器与冶金术、文化遗产四个部分。其中,“考
古学理论与方法”收论文9篇,“商研究”收论文18篇,“铁器与冶金术”收论文3篇,
“文化遗产”收论文3篇。内容上虽然分为四个部分,但是全部论文皆为围绕殷墟考古
和商代编年的考古学实证这一核心而来,可说主题集中。从时间上看,本论文集所收最
早的一篇论文是1993年6月发表在《考古》上的《中国冶金术的起源问题》一文,到此
论文集出版时最新发表的《殷墟早期田野工作的得失》等6篇论... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 24 著名预言著作《推背图》及其神奇传说
一、《推背图》是一部什么性质的著作
相传《推背图》一书诞生在唐代初期,它是一部中国历史发展预言书。它的作者是唐代
初期著名预言家袁天罡和李淳风二人。其中,由南宋抗金名将岳飞的后代岳珂所作的《
桯史》中主张此书的作者只是李淳风一人。
此书的由来是唐太宗李世民问袁天罡和李淳风二人:“大唐的江山能够维持多久?继承
大唐江山的都是些什么人?”这个问题本来是中国古代社会中的帝王们所患的一种“江
山病”而已。但是,精通天文、历法的著名预言家袁天罡和李淳风二人,为了回答唐太
宗李世民的这一疑问,立刻一人在前面走、一人在后面推前面人的后背,二人走一步就
说出一句识语和颂语 (即预言诗),御用画家马上就把他们二人所说所看的情景画下来
。故名之为《推背图》。
传说,袁天罡和李淳风二人共走了一千六百步,象征着自大唐开国626年开始,往下预
言了一千六百年的中国历史更替。即此书预言的范围始自626年、终于2026年。实际上
此识语和颂语(即预言诗)的内容是开始自盘古开天地的,即此二人首先把唐代以前的历
史更替进行了说明。但《推背图》只有六十幅图,它利用了中国古代易学理论中的... 阅读全帖 |
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w***u 发帖数: 17713 | 25 明朝是我共济会的产物,是我石匠会在全世界驱逐鞑虏的重大成就,是石人一只眼,即
我石匠雕刻出来的Eye of Providence,挑动黄河天下反。即使明朝完蛋了,反清复明的
天地会洪门,也是堂而皇之的共济会分部。反鞑子,也反色目回回,是共济会的一贯责
任。这就是海日恨洪门孙文反共济会的原因。我共济会在明朝之后,还建立过另外一个
政权,就是美国,这个比较广为人知,但是明朝就比较少为人知了。毕竟我石匠会是不
会掌权进行政权的日常运作的,明朝也好美国也好,我们石匠都不会前台掌权,民国和
共和国都有我们的人,但是周恩来过后就没什么影响力了,现在北京城里大量满遗搞清
宫戏欢得很哪。无论如何,把明教后面运作的几个色目人当作回回看,完全是南辕北辙
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w******y 发帖数: 8040 | 26 得出土一块漂亮的石头
石头上写着
“We are kings of the Summer Dynasty
- Great Yu and Qi, BC 2200”
除此之外, 我们都不承认有夏朝 |
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发帖数: 1 | 27 http://ihmm.ustb.edu.cn/xueshuduiwu/2011/0807/3544.html
梅建军
教授/博士生导师
冶金与生态工程学院科学技术与文明研究中心常务副主任
办公地点: 冶金楼909
办公电话: 010-62332523
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研究生课程: 考古学与艺术史、文化遗产概论、文化遗产学
科研方向:科技考古 文物保护 中西文化交流
社会职务:国际冶金史大会执委会主席
中国科技史学会副理事长
中国考古学会理事
《中国科技史杂志》副主编
《Journal of Archaeological Science》编委
《Archaeometry》编委
简历
1984年毕业于北京钢铁学院冶金物理化学专业,获工学学士学位;1987年毕业于北京科
技大学科学技术史专业,1988年获中国科学技术大学理学硕士学位;2000年毕业于英国
剑桥大学考古系,获哲学博士学位。1994... 阅读全帖 |
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w******y 发帖数: 8040 | 28 这些逗逼那么踊跃的认白爹, 手法倒是和白蝶完全一样: 双重标准
某个年代的某个人说了一句话,这句话里提到了N年前的一本书,
这N年前的一本书里提到了N*N年前的一个帝国,
然后这个帝国就是信史了, 白蝶对自己不就是这个逻辑嘛
反过来对中国, 除非出土一个前21世纪的石头,上面刻着
Welcome to the Summer Dynasty
- by Great Yu and Qi
否则夏朝是没有的
年。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 29 http://ihmm.ustb.edu.cn/xueshuduiwu/2011/0807/3544.html
梅建军
教授/博士生导师
冶金与生态工程学院科学技术与文明研究中心常务副主任
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社会职务:国际冶金史大会执委会主席
中国科技史学会副理事长
中国考古学会理事
《中国科技史杂志》副主编
《Journal of Archaeological Science》编委
《Archaeometry》编委
简历
1984年毕业于北京钢铁学院冶金物理化学专业,获工学学士学位;1987年毕业于北京科
技大学科学技术史专业,1988年获中国科学技术大学理学硕士学位;2000年毕业于英国
剑桥大学考古系,获哲学博士学位。1994... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 30 谢谢。这个有意思。
Ancient Egyptians were an archaeologist's dream. They left behind intricate
coffins, massive pyramids and gorgeous hieroglyphs, the pictorial writing
code cracked in 1799. Egyptians recorded tales of royalty and gods. They
jotted down life's miscellanies, too, as humdrum as beer recipes and doctor'
s notes.
But there was one persistent hole in ancient Egyptian identity: their
chromosomes. Cool, dry permafrost can preserve prehistoric DNA like a
natural freezer, but Egypt is a gene inci... 阅读全帖 |
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m***n 发帖数: 12188 | 31 不是说考试,而是官僚系统。
你根本就没搞清楚你在说什么。
伊斯兰的教士有担任统治者的参谋的传统。比如Ibn Sina, Avicenna (980 – 1037)
曾经是 the vizier to Shams al-Dawlah of the Shii Buyid Dynasty,
Ibn Rushd also known as Averroes of Cordoba (1126 – 1198), In 1160 he was
assigned a judge of Seville. Later he served in many other court
appointments in Cordoba & Morocco.
莫卧尔王朝也一样。
其实基督教的教士还没有这个传统。因为是二元的。教士忠于教会,一般并不忠于领主
。只是个别。
而且,欧洲和伊斯兰那根本不是文官官僚体系。
古代世界的官僚体系只有中国一个,最多加上朝鲜。 日本也不是。 |
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T*******x 发帖数: 8565 | 32 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: jhe123 (jhe), 信区: Military
标 题: 中国人千万不能重犯汉唐时大量接受异族的错误
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 21 23:29:36 2017, 美东)
操他妈的,非我族类其心必异,果不其然啊!!!这个傻逼还号称自己喜欢中国文化和
历史,比很多中国人都更“中国”,结果下面这段话就暴露出丫始终是个蛮夷。居然说
中国人杀光羯人仅仅是因为他们的白皮?后赵对汉人犯下的罪行,灭他一回族已经是便
宜他们了。
The Jie people, who were probably of Central
Asian stock, established the Later Zhao dynasty but were massacred shortly
thereafter, around A.D. 350. The killings were said to be based on their
Caucasian looks, and many bearded people were killed ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********d 发帖数: 9770 | 33 BRIEF DISCUSSION ON IRON CREDENTIALS OF QIAN CHU DYNASTY
文/御简斋 By Yu Jianzhai
In modern times, because of world-wide wars and revolutionary movements,
there is no longer privilege for the old lord. The law advocates equality,
and those new aristocrats call themselves ordinary people. But under
oligarchy, there're still privileges. Therefore, its meaningful in rereading
Qian Liu's iron credentials.
壹
《百家姓》以“赵钱孙李”开头,
宋王明清《玉照新志》据此考证说,是
“两浙钱氏有国时小民所著”,成书于北
宋初年吴越国尚存之时。北宋开国皇帝
姓赵,因此排第一。而钱氏为五代十国
时吴越国王的姓氏... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 34 作者: 秦晖
尼德兰画家老勃鲁盖尔的名作《死亡的胜利》(约作于1562年),反映了黑死病之后社
会的动荡与恐怖。
“历史上中国人口的大起大落,可以说是任何别的民族都没有的”
大灾难的形成机制
与那些“封建”文明形成鲜明对比的是:秦以后中国历史的明显特征就是它的大盛大衰
。承平之时,“秦制”不像“封建”那样领主林立多内耗,因而可以多次取得“大国崛
起”的成就。英国经济学家安格斯·麦迪森说“鸦片战争前中国GDP占世界的三分之一
”,今天流传甚广,我以为难以置信。但至少在明初以前,即马可·波罗和郑和的时代
,中国的王朝盛世要比当时的欧洲繁荣许多,则应该是不争的事实。然而我们历史的一
大特点是始终无法摆脱“治乱循环”,即所谓“其兴也勃焉,其亡也忽焉”。而且中国
秦以后历代王朝的寿命不但比“封建”时代的周“王朝”和欧洲、日本的宗主王系(不
是dynasty)短很多,其“改朝换代”的巨大破坏性更几乎是人类历史上独有的。
古代没有精确统计,惟一能反映国家兴亡、社会荣衰的指标就是人口的增减,而历史上
中国人口的大起大落,可以说是任何别的民族都没有的。固然,人口(在农业时代基本
也就是经济)的升降并非传... 阅读全帖 |
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r*******r 发帖数: 36 | 35 【 以下文字转载自 RisingChina 讨论区 】
发信人: roverster (土农), 信区: RisingChina
标 题: 俄真理报文章:Foolishness Over the Olympics and Tibet
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 13 14:24:05 2008)
3月24日希腊点火仪式上三个闹场者原来全是法国人,全文见http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/104872-0/
Tibet has been a part of China since ancient days. Historical records have
shown that Tibet had been under the central government of China for more
than 700 years since the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368). Less than 6 decades ago,
China emerged from a century of co |
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R********n 发帖数: 5904 | 36 Westerns only won during very recent 200 years. Almost every dynasty of China lasted longer than that, while China had been leading for 2000 years before that.
And, painstakingly for westerns, it may again lead in the next 2000 years.
else
like |
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y***l 发帖数: 6963 | 37 this design is originated in china
ask when did jp steal that from china? tang dynasty? |
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d********y 发帖数: 6566 | 38 this is exactly what the US has been doing all time.
I am not sure our heaven dynasty has the ability to copy and apply this
power. |
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i***a 发帖数: 4718 | 39 Very interesting about Sart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sart
Separation between the Uzbek and Uyghur nationalities
Throughout the Qing Dynasty, the sedentary Turkic inhabitants of the oases
around the Tarim speaking Qarluq-Chagatay dialects were still largely known
as Taranchi, Sart, ruled by their Moghul rulers of Khojijan or Chagatay
lineages. Other parts of the Islamic World still knew this area as
Moghulistan or as the eastern part of Turkestan, and the Qing Chinese
generally lumped all off |
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R********n 发帖数: 5904 | 40 They are mostly killed by 冉闽,and then Xianbei comes to the power.
Xianbei is yellow some how close to Korean. But Turkii is still there until Tang dynasty rised and drove them to ruin East Roman.
Those historic days were really exciting. Its also crucial days for Chinese to survive. Or, "Chinese" might have been extinct as Indians. |
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y****e 发帖数: 23939 | 41 鲜卑也有白种的一只
现在的云南白族就是白种鲜卑和当地混血的
until Tang dynasty rised and drove them to ruin East Roman.
Chinese to survive. Or, "Chinese" might have been extinct as Indians. |
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G***G 发帖数: 16778 | 42 wrong. hydrology has a histroy of at least two thousand years since dynasty
of qin.
the delayed time is not difficult to calcuate at all.
a lot of paper were published about the prediction of rain density.
a lot of experts are majored in it.
if they cannot do this, what can they do, and what are they expected to do?
let NSF fund me, I can build a prediciton model for it.although I am
not an expert at all. |
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h***i 发帖数: 89031 | 43 滞后时间当然好算阿
你说说多少天。
跟nsf说你能提前10天预报卡垂娜的路径,人家一个嘴巴煽过来
dynasty |
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c**i 发帖数: 6973 | 44 (7)
(a) In my view, Qing Dynasty's faults started the war.
* First Opium War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
(Lin Zexu "asked that all opium be surrendered to the Chinese authorities *
* * forced the British hand by closing the channel to Canton, effectively
holding British traders hostage in Canton. The British Chief Superintendent
of Trade in China, Charles Elliot, got the British traders to agree to hand
over their opium stock with the promise of eventual compensation for their
l |
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d****g 发帖数: 824 | 45 The Min dynasty did too bad in the second half from 1500 to 1640. |
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t******r 发帖数: 8600 | 46 等人均GDP超过美国, 人八國聯軍攻. In Qing dynasty, China GDP was 33% of the
world combine. |
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E*******1 发帖数: 3464 | 47 So he could beat whom? He was the loser to Japan and the loser to TG, and
when being fucked by Japan, he even could not make it clear how to fight and
who to fight with. With almost all Chinese resources, he could not do
worse. He might not beat Japan, but even worse than Qin dynasty did? TG even
can fight with US, however, Jiang could lose most of the important land in
a rediculously short time, with pant down, what he did for China in the war
and before the war? And to TG, a bigger joke. I do |
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E*******1 发帖数: 3464 | 48 So I was saying what he did before the war as well. You may argue he was too
busy to deal with so many things, that made China far worse than Qin
Dynasty. Okay, that makes sense. Then why you guys take time show your full
respect to him. Chaotic period can produce heroes, he is just not in this
set. He is too normal in Chinese history, a lot of people did much better in
much worse era of China. He failed all the time, failed to construct a
strong China, failed to kill TG earlier, was fucked to d |
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I********n 发帖数: 1468 | 49 From Wikipedia:
"From the third century CE, the Gupta dynasty oversaw the period referred
to as ancient "India's Golden Age".[33][34] Empires in southern India
included those of the Chalukyas, the Cholas and the Vijayanagara Empire.
Science, technology, engineering, art, logic, language, literature,
mathematics, astronomy, religion and philosophy flourished under the
patronage of these kings."
我说"上千年", 没说"几前年前". 一直到西方工业革命, 印度还是很不错的. |
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