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s*y
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 刚出生的婴儿有什么罪?
他不是在戒网么
so, let me try post two verses, all from NIV.
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Ezekiel 18:20 The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not
share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the
child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the
wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.
Exodus 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD
your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the
parents to t... 阅读全帖
m****a
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Preliminary Principles
First of all, it needs to be initially recognized that this passage is
Hebrew poetry. And Hebrew poetry abounds with bold and imaginative figures
of speech; it is frequently characterized by a freedom which departs from
customary forms of expression. It is, therefore, a mistake of great
magnitude to extract statements from poetical literature and thus employ
them as a foundation for doctrinal schemes.
This is precisely the error of the materialists (Watchtower Witnesses,
A... 阅读全帖
m****a
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here are numerous Bible verses, in plain, literal language, that affirm the
innocency of infants, and Psalm 51:5 must not be arrayed against these.
Consider the following:
(1) Scripture plainly teaches that sin is not inherited. “[T]he son shall
not bear the iniquity of the father” (Ezekiel 18:20); every person is
responsible for his own conduct (Romans 14:12).
惟有犯罪的,他必死亡。儿子必不担当父亲的罪孽,父亲也不担当儿子的罪孽。义人的
善果必归自己,恶人的恶报也必归自己。
14:12这样看来,我们各人必要将自己的事,在神面前说明。
(2) Human sinfulness commences in that period of... 阅读全帖
s***u
发帖数: 1911
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 说说jym0237
I am cursing Calvinism because the calvinists shall pull down the top articl
es cursing Mormonism.
My views about christianity and confucianism are here
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/index/Ezekiel
when I wrote these posts, JYM0237 were deleting myelsa's posts.
Now I stop writing,I only want to fight jym0237 and seeketernal untill they
can treat myelsa and other christians right.
s***u
发帖数: 1911
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 说说jym0237
I am cursing Calvinism because the calvinists shall pull down the top articl
es cursing Mormonism.
My views about christianity and confucianism are here
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/index/Ezekiel
when I wrote these posts, JYM0237 were deleting myelsa's posts.
Now I stop writing,I only want to fight jym0237 and seeketernal untill they
can treat myelsa and other christians right.
D*****r
发帖数: 6791
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don't forget where voldemort is feared by all and call
himself lord.
And seriously:
have strong and independent characters siting Ezekiel. and the
ending theme song Leaning On the Everlasting Arms is a religious song.
where gods and humans interact.
where truth's value is debated. I remember a good line: "Many
people put other things before truth: their life, job, family".
R*o
发帖数: 3781
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 2:17-29
2:19-20 Therefore, as someone who knew the will of God through Torah (i.e.,
the Law), he was confident (pevpoiqa", pepoithas) that he fulfilled the chie
f mediatorial (for God) and pedagogical role in the world. First, he was a g
uide to the blind (oJdhgoVn ei ai tuflw'n, hodegon einai tuphlon); he was su
pposed to lead those without Torah into a right relationship with YHWH. Seco
nd, and intimately related, he was supposed to be, again via his connection
with YHWH and the Torah, a light to thos... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 2:17-29
2:19-20 Therefore, as someone who knew the will of God through Torah (i.e.,
the Law), he was confident (pevpoiqa", pepoithas) that he fulfilled the chie
f mediatorial (for God) and pedagogical role in the world. First, he was a g
uide to the blind (oJdhgoVn ei ai tuflw'n, hodegon einai tuphlon); he was su
pposed to lead those without Torah into a right relationship with YHWH. Seco
nd, and intimately related, he was supposed to be, again via his connection
with YHWH and the Torah, a light to thos... 阅读全帖
K*V
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 聖經各卷書中﹑英文名稱與縮寫
聖經各卷書中﹑英文名稱與縮寫
舊約
中文卷名 中文縮寫 英文卷名 英文縮寫
創世記 創 Genesis Gen
出埃及記 出 Exodus Exo
利未記 利 Leviticus Lev
民數記 民 Numbers Num
申命記 申 Deuteronomy Deu
約書亞記 書 Joshua Jos
士師記 士 Judges Jug
路得記 得 Ruth Rut
撒母耳記上 撒上 1 Samuel 1Sa
撒母耳記下 撒下 2 Samuel 2Sa
列王紀上 王上 1Kings 1Ki
列王紀下 王下 2Kings 2Ki
歷代志上 代上 1 Chronicles 1Ch
歷代志下 代下 2 Chronicles 2Ch
以斯拉記 ... 阅读全帖
G*******s
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Reo/sishu学今天太惨了
就剩下这个MJ了?还是不肯用你的GhostKiller?
你的Ezekiel怎么也不用啊?
G*******s
发帖数: 4956
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 神组(Godhead)
THE GODHEAD
"...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
Matthew 28:19
Copyright ? 1976, 1977 by Diane S. Dew
I. The doctrine of the Trinity (or, Godhead) – attacked by cults (such
as the Watchtower Society,
or Jehovah's Witnesses) so that they can also deny the deity of Jesus
– is one of the most basic
fundamentals of Christianity.
A. Although the word "trinity" is not in the Bible, the concept of
the three-in-one, the triune
Go... 阅读全帖
G*******s
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 神组(Godhead)
THE GODHEAD
"...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
Matthew 28:19
Copyright ? 1976, 1977 by Diane S. Dew
I. The doctrine of the Trinity (or, Godhead) – attacked by cults (such
as the Watchtower Society,
or Jehovah's Witnesses) so that they can also deny the deity of Jesus
– is one of the most basic
fundamentals of Christianity.
A. Although the word "trinity" is not in the Bible, the concept of
the three-in-one, the triune
Go... 阅读全帖
G*******s
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Godhead (Christianity)
THE GODHEAD
"...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
Matthew 28:19
Copyright ? 1976, 1977 by Diane S. Dew
I. The doctrine of the Trinity (or, Godhead) – attacked by cults (such
as the Watchtower Society,
or Jehovah's Witnesses) so that they can also deny the deity of Jesus
– is one of the most basic
fundamentals of Christianity.
A. Although the word "trinity" is not in the Bible, the concept of
the three-in-one, the triune
Go... 阅读全帖
R******d
发帖数: 168
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 神恩独作(monergism)是什么意思?
神恩独作是什么意思?
What does monergism mean?
诚之获授权翻译。
原文载于:http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/qna/monergis
m.html
神恩独作(Monergism):在重生时,不是依靠我们未重生的人性与神有任何的合作,而
是圣灵使我们与基督联合。祂藉著外在的呼召,即神的道的宣讲,解除我们内在敌意的
武装,除去我们的瞎眼,照亮我们的心智,使我们明白,把我们的石心变成肉心——使
我们喜爱神的话——以我们被更新的情感,竭尽全力、心甘情愿地拥抱基督。被圣灵所
默示的先知以西结断言:“我要使他们有合一的心,也要将新灵放在他们里面,又从他
们肉体中除掉石心,赐给他们肉心,使他们顺从我的律例,谨守遵行我的典章。他们要
作我的子民,我要作他们的神。”(结11:19-20;另参36:26)。使徒保罗说,“被神
所爱的弟兄啊,我知道你们是蒙拣选的;因为我们的福音传到你们那里,不独在乎言语
,也在乎权能和圣灵,并充足的信心”。(帖前1:4-5)这就是说,在重生时,神的道
不是单独做工的,必须伴... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 5:1-11
5:5 The hope about which Paul speaks does not disappoint (ouj kataiscuvnei,
ou kataischunei), because like Abraham’s hope, it is derived from God (thro
ugh the Spirit), not from our circumstances (4:19-21). Those who trust in Ch
rist will in no way end up embarrassed or disappointed for so having committ
ed themselves to him. Paul’s words recall the prayer of the psalmist and hi
s earnest expectation that he would in no way be disappointed (Ps 22:5; 25:2
0; cf. also Isa 28:16).
The reason this h... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 我对义人说、你必定存活
Ezekiel 33:13我对义人说、你必定存活.他若倚靠他的义而作罪孽、他所行的义、都
不被记念.他必因所作的罪孽死亡。
R*o
发帖数: 3781
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 我对恶人说、你必定死亡
Ezekiel 33:14 再者、我对恶人说、你必定死亡.他若转离他的罪、行正直与合理的事
h*******d
发帖数: 1191
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 罪的本质是上帝?-看看jym解经
I need brothers and sisters pay more attention on two different things: the
origin of human sin and the origin of sin.
The origin of human sin, accoding to the Bible, is very simply ascribed to
the willful self-corruption of the creature under temptation. The record is
given in Genesis 3 and the fact of the original human sin is expounded in
Romans 5:12-21. According to the account of Genesis 3, man was created with
a holy nature, in fellowship with God, and placed in an environment which
was "a... 阅读全帖
s***u
发帖数: 1911
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"priestly child raping" proves that the Arminianism is right.
Ezekiel 33:13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live;
if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his
righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath
committed, he shall die for it.
s***u
发帖数: 1911
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"priestly child raping" proves that the Arminianism is right.
Ezekiel 33:13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live;
if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his
righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath
committed, he shall die for it.
R*o
发帖数: 3781
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 那讨论什么呢
Ezekiel 33:13 hen I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live;
if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his
righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath
committed, he shall die for it.
R*o
发帖数: 3781
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 那讨论什么呢
Ezekiel 33:14 And if I say to a wicked person, you will surely die,but
they then turn away from their sin and do what is just and right15 if they
give back what they took in pledge for a loan, return what they have stolen
, follow the decrees that give life, and do no evil that person will surely
live; they will not die. 16 None of the sins that person has committed will
be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will
surely live.

l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【福音派版本】罗马书1:22-32

去行。
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are
worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do
them.
"
Though this passage is variously explained, yet the following appears to me
the correctest interpretation, — that men left nothing undone for the
purpose of giving unbridled liberty to their sinful propensities; for having
taken away all distinction between good and evil, they approved in
themselves and in others those things which they ... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - mitbbs提到耶稣次数最多的人
排名 作者 匹配的帖数
1 myelsa 2076
2 leonana 1125
3 jym2307 916
4 SEEKETERNAL 821
5 qilikacha105 673
6 BlizzFlare 658
7 qilikacha 612
8 isle 592
9 qilikacha1 582
10 imrobot 545
11 GetThere 508
12 leonany 441
13 Eloihim 365
14 whiterose 298
15 yyyyy 297
16 qiaqiafeng 295
17 apie ... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - mitbbs提到神次数最多的
排名 作者 匹配的帖数
1 Eloihim 2687
2 SEEKETERNAL 2415
3 casact 2243
4 jym2307 2153
5 leonana 1919
6 myelsa 1830
7 Dreamer 1528
8 whiterose 976
9 leonany 960
10 imrobot 934
11 BlizzFlare 920
12 google2005 876
13 Dignity 842
14 one1 827
15 syrsyr 803
16 cursor 737
17 GetThere ... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - mitbbs提到上帝次数最多的
排名 作者 匹配的帖数
1 myelsa 1640
2 Eloihim 728
3 newland2010 643
4 leonana 601
5 GetThere 556
6 jym2307 371
7 windmind 365
8 one1 351
9 Dreamer 303
10 BlizzFlare 289
11 yyyyy 253
12 koreanorth 236
13 CCWiki 235
14 jadetreeaz 220
15 runsun 216
16 leonany 197
17 TNEGIETNI 194
18 whiterose 193
19 imrobot 179
20 Godwithus 179
21 D... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - mitbbs提到基督次数最多的
排名 作者 匹配的帖数
1 jym2307 1019
2 myelsa 873
3 leonana 831
4 Godwithus 563
5 SEEKETERNAL 523
6 leonany 520
7 Eloihim 516
8 burma 396
9 bomber3 387
10 whiterose 386
11 qiaqiafeng 353
12 CCWiki 338
13 BlizzFlare 306
14 GetThere 284
15 imrobot 284
16 seexeternal 271
17 delia 266
18 windking 255
19 Dignity 245
20 koreanorth 236
21 G... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - mitbbs提到罪次数最多的
排名 作者 匹配的帖数
1 cursor 726
2 myelsa 684
3 Cnews 508
4 jym2307 484
5 SEEKETERNAL 436
6 powershadow 381
7 leonana 347
8 brihand 337
9 CCWiki 300
10 casact 287
11 Eloihim 264
12 whiterose 249
13 Communipig 240
14 inews 237
15 Dreamer 222
16 canews 209
17 Godwithus 202
18 Walk2012 187
19 windking 181
20 qiaqiafeng 167
21 chen123 16... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - mitbbs提到圣经次数最多的
排名 作者 匹配的帖数
1 xmwang 2898
2 jym2307 2220
3 SEEKETERNAL 2185
4 myelsa 1862
5 whiterose 1363
6 leonana 1221
7 qilikacha105 974
8 qilikacha 762
9 Eloihim 757
10 GetThere 621
11 isle 592
12 leonany 588
13 qiaqiafeng 556
14 Dignity 529
15 qilikacha1 495
16 one1 489
17 LADYQIAN 472
18 BlizzFlare 469
19 Godwithus 462
20 imrobot ... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - mitbbs提到祷告次数最多的id
排名 作者 匹配的帖数
1 myelsa 389
2 whiterose 297
3 yyyyy 289
4 leonana 260
5 leonany 252
6 SEEKETERNAL 193
7 imrobot 180
8 jym2307 171
9 CCWiki 164
10 qiaqiafeng 164
11 qilikacha 154
12 BlizzFlare 153
13 Dignity 143
14 newland2010 133
15 Eloihim 131
16 LADYQIAN 125
17 casact 124
18 Godwithus 123
19 windmind 121
20 xlxie 119
21 qi... 阅读全帖
G******e
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Ezekiel 23:19-20
Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her
youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers
, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that
of horses.
C*****e
发帖数: 367
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 芝加哥「《聖經》無誤」宣言
请看《西敏斯特信仰告白》是怎么说的:
第一章 论圣经
一、本性之光与创造护理之工,虽彰显神的善良、智慧和权能,叫人无可推诿1;但
都不足以将得救所必须的,有关神及其旨意的知识赐予人2。所以神愿意多次多方将自己
启示给他的教会,并向教会宣布□的旨意3;以后,为了更加保守并传扬真理的缘故,而
且为了更坚立教会,安慰教会,抵挡肉体的败坏,并撒但与世界的恶意起见,遂将全部
启示笔之于书4。于是,神先前向他百姓启示自己旨意的方法已经停止5,故圣经成为我
们最必要的6。
二、在圣经,或笔之于书的神言的名义下,包括旧新约全书,即旧约三十九卷,新
约二十七卷(书名于此从略)。这些书都是出于神的默示7,为信仰与生活的准则。
三、一般称为伪经(Apocrypha)的各卷,既非出于神的默感,所以不属圣经正典,
因此(伪经)在神的教会中没有权威,只能当作其他属人的著作看待或使用之8。
四、应受信服的圣经权威,不在乎任何人或教会的见证,乃完全在乎神(他是真理
的本身)是圣经的著者。因为圣经是神的话,所以当为我们接受9。
五、我们可能受教会所作之见证的感动与影响,因而对圣经有高度敬畏的尊重10。
圣经主题属天的性... 阅读全帖
l*****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Top 10 failed prophecies in the Bible
说真格的这个所谓的先知Ezekiel真是搞笑极了,在围攻推罗的时候"预言"推罗咋咋地
,没成功又转身在国王进攻埃及的时候大放厥词的说他那些被上帝附体永远成空的"预
言",还什么预言,其实就是些诅咒罢啦,
C*****e
发帖数: 367
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【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: 《威斯敏斯特信仰告白》第一章论圣经
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Apr 28 23:48:07 2012, 美东)
第一章 论圣经
一、本性之光与创造护理之工,虽彰显神的善良、智慧和权能,叫人无可推诿1;但
都不足以将得救所必须的,有关神及其旨意的知识赐予人2。所以神愿意多次多方将自己
启示给他的教会,并向教会宣布□的旨意3;以后,为了更加保守并传扬真理的缘故,而
且为了更坚立教会,安慰教会,抵挡肉体的败坏,并撒但与世界的恶意起见,遂将全部
启示笔之于书4。于是,神先前向他百姓启示自己旨意的方法已经停止5,故圣经成为我
们最必要的6。
二、在圣经,或笔之于书的神言的名义下,包括旧新约全书,即旧约三十九卷,新
约二十七卷(书名于此从略)。这些书都是出于神的默示7,为信仰与生活的准则。
三、一般称为伪经(Apocrypha)的各卷,既非出于神的默感,所以不属圣经正典,
因此(伪经)在神的教会中没有权威,只能当作其他属人的著作看待或使用之8。
四、应受信服的... 阅读全帖
G*******s
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 圣经无误之现有资源
五楼:
威斯敏斯特信条第一章 论圣经 http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_622134fd01015m8x.
html
《威斯敏斯特信仰告白》第一章论圣经 (2012-04-29 11:46:17)[编辑][删除]转载▼
标签: 杂谈 分类: 基督徒百科
第一章 论圣经
一、本性之光与创造护理之工,虽彰显神的善良、智慧和权能,叫人无可推诿1;但
都不足以将得救所必须的,有关神及其旨意的知识赐予人2。所以神愿意多次多方将自己
启示给他的教会,并向教会宣布□的旨意3;以后,为了更加保守并传扬真理的缘故,而
且为了更坚立教会,安慰教会,抵挡肉体的败坏,并撒但与世界的恶意起见,遂将全部
启示笔之于书4。于是,神先前向他百姓启示自己旨意的方法已经停止5,故圣经成为我
们最必要的6。
二、在圣经,或笔之于书的神言的名义下,包括旧新约全书,即旧约三十九卷,新
约二十七卷(书名于此从略)。这些书都是出于神的默示7,为信仰与生活的准则。
三、一般称为伪经(Apocrypha)的各卷,既非出于神的默感,所以不属圣经正典,
因此(伪经)在神的教会中没有权威,只能当作其他属人... 阅读全帖
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Ezekiel 23:19-20
Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her
youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers
, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that
of horses.
创世记[合合本 简体] 19:31 大女儿对小女儿说,我们的父亲老了,地上又无人按着世
上的常规进到我们这里。
创世记[合合本 简体]19:32 来,我们可以叫父亲喝酒,与他同寝。这样,我们好从他
存留后裔。
创世记[合合本 简体] 19:33 于是,那夜她们叫父亲喝酒,大女儿就进去和她父亲
同寝。她几时躺下,几时起来,父亲都不知道。
创世记[合合本 简体] 19:34 第二天,大女儿对小女儿说,我昨夜与父亲同寝
。今夜我们再叫他喝酒,你可以进去与他同寝。这样,... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 蔡元培:以美育代宗教说
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/TrustInJesus/827821.html
连环杀手杀人也是发自内心的,
These quotes and many others have been used by christian serial killers in
order to justify their crimes. This is in direct contradiction of christian
claims that christianity is a religion of “peace” and “love”.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must
be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
A priest's daug... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 信了教就没有离婚,凶杀,吸毒了
These quotes and many others have been used by christian serial killers in
order to justify their crimes. This is in direct contradiction of christian
claims that christianity is a religion of “peace” and “love”.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must
be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and
thereby dishonors... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 说说科学
These quotes and many others have been used by christian serial killers in
order to justify their crimes. This is in direct contradiction of christian
claims that christianity is a religion of “peace” and “love”.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the
priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must
be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and
thereby dishonors... 阅读全帖
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3 God’s Judgment against Jerusalem
(Ezekiel 22:17-22)

for
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - This Text Is Hebrew(zz)
He turned to 1 Nephi and began to read. He stopped and said, “This text is
Hebrew.”
He then explained why the text appeared to be an English translation of
Hebrew. I told him the book was written by a tribe of Israel. I cited
Ezekiel 37:15–20, which speaks of the stick of Judah and the stick of
Joseph. We agreed that the stick of Judah represents the Bible, and I
explained that the stick of Joseph is the Book of Mormon.
After our three-hour conversation the rabbi expressed an interest in
obtaini... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 灵魂的进化(转贴)
灵魂的进化
也和话

现代基督教认为人是二元化的,人是由肉体和灵魂组成的。肉体死后,灵魂不灭,要受
耶和华审判,然后,信的人,不管是杀人、放火、强奸,照上天堂;不信的,不管做了
多少好事,一律下地狱受永火烧烤。
这个概念是从人们有灵魂这个概念起,经过几千年的演变,才发展到现在的样子。要了
解灵魂的历史,我们得回到六千年前的中东。
两个古代文明
由西面的幼发拉底河(Euphrates)和东面的底格里斯河(Tigris)冲出的平原地带,
共同界定美索不达米亚(Mesopotamia,希腊文,mesos 之间, potamos 河流,即“两
河之间”)。在现代的地图,美索不达米亚相当于伊拉克大部分和伊朗的西面。苏美尔
(Sumer,公元前4000年-前2000年)和巴比伦(公元前3000年-前700年)是其中两个
著名的美索不达米亚文化。
美索不达米亚是人类有记载的最早文明发源地,他们是最早掌握耕种技术的人群之一,
他们也是最早懂得通商的人,巴比伦国王汉谟拉比(Hammurabi,公元前1792年-前
1750年在位)更是人类文明第一个使用法典的人,根据传说,汉谟拉比是从太阳神那里
得到律... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 灵魂的进化(转贴)
灵魂的进化
也和话

现代基督教认为人是二元化的,人是由肉体和灵魂组成的。肉体死后,灵魂不灭,要受
耶和华审判,然后,信的人,不管是杀人、放火、强奸,照上天堂;不信的,不管做了
多少好事,一律下地狱受永火烧烤。
这个概念是从人们有灵魂这个概念起,经过几千年的演变,才发展到现在的样子。要了
解灵魂的历史,我们得回到六千年前的中东。
两个古代文明
由西面的幼发拉底河(Euphrates)和东面的底格里斯河(Tigris)冲出的平原地带,
共同界定美索不达米亚(Mesopotamia,希腊文,mesos 之间, potamos 河流,即“两
河之间”)。在现代的地图,美索不达米亚相当于伊拉克大部分和伊朗的西面。苏美尔
(Sumer,公元前4000年-前2000年)和巴比伦(公元前3000年-前700年)是其中两个
著名的美索不达米亚文化。
美索不达米亚是人类有记载的最早文明发源地,他们是最早掌握耕种技术的人群之一,
他们也是最早懂得通商的人,巴比伦国王汉谟拉比(Hammurabi,公元前1792年-前
1750年在位)更是人类文明第一个使用法典的人,根据传说,汉谟拉比是从太阳神那里
得到律... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规
上帝不喜欢恶人受罚,而喜欢恶人悔改。基督徒为啥要赞美上帝自己都不喜欢的事呢?
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。(注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人,是完全错误的。)
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦,与邻居发生性行为(对婚姻的不忠),搞同性性
行为,与动物发生性行为,把孩子作为祭品,祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek(不是
上帝)。(嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解,说上帝对他们不公平。)
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规
上帝不喜欢恶人受罚,而喜欢恶人悔改。基督徒为啥要赞美上帝自己都不喜欢的事呢?
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。(注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人,是完全错误的。)
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦,与邻居发生性行为(对婚姻的不忠),搞同性性
行为,与动物发生性行为,把孩子作为祭品,祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek(不是
上帝)。(嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解,说上帝对他们不公平。)
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果... 阅读全帖
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跟你说很多遍了,我不赞美神杀恶人。神自己都不喜欢杀恶人我们基督徒为什么要赞美
呢?
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 , 主 耶 和 华 说 : 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 , 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 , 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 , 你 们 转 回 , 转 回 罢 ! 离 开 恶 道 , 何 必 死 亡 呢 ?

使_
them
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跟你说很多遍了,我不赞美神杀恶人。神自己都不喜欢杀恶人我们基督徒为什么要赞美
呢?
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 , 主 耶 和 华 说 : 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 , 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 , 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 , 你 们 转 回 , 转 回 罢 ! 离 开 恶 道 , 何 必 死 亡 呢 ?

使_
them
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督教徒为什么传教
简单的说,不管好人坏人,如果不信,我们不知道上帝会怎么判。但是不管好人坏人,
只要信了,就可以上天堂。
上帝决定谁上谁不上天堂,我们只是吧这个好消息告诉大家而已。
如果一个罪大恶极的人可以真心悔改,上帝应该是很高兴的。这正会体现上帝的伟大。
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 , 主 耶 和 华 说 : 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 , 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 , 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 , 你 们 转 回 , 转 回 罢 !... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 请基们思考:“圣经”自相矛盾举例
我是人,不是机器人,我真的有点烦了。跟你说多少遍了。
上帝自己都不喜欢看恶人死亡,我们信徒为什么要赞美呢?
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 , 主 耶 和 华 说 : 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 , 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 , 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 , 你 们 转 回 , 转 回 罢 ! 离 开 恶 道 , 何 必 死 亡 呢 ?
J*******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 请基们思考:“圣经”自相矛盾举例
上帝自己都不喜欢看恶人死亡,我们信徒为什么要赞美呢?
基督徒不赞美主,你怎么那么纠结呢?
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 , 主 耶 和 华 说 : 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 , 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 , 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 , 你 们 转 回 , 转 回 罢 ! 离 开 恶 道 , 何 必 死 亡 呢 ?
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