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t*******y
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http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/EB23/32224141.html
标 题: 共和党参院移民委员会主席Jeff Sessions对STEM宣战了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jan 26 16:06:42 2015, 美东)
Jeff Sessions刚刚被任命为新一届国会共和党参院移民委员会主席,他的顶头上司是
本版最爱戴的参院司法委员会主席Chuck Grassley,俗称格老。
本版最爱的高科技移民之友--共和党--对STEM移民打脸Policy来了。
硅谷STEM骗局:
http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/67ae7163-6616-4023-a5c4-534c53e6fc26/immigration-primer-for-the-114th-congress.pdf
THE SILICON VALLEY STEM HOAX
The false claim that has gained the most acceptance is the notion that ... 阅读全帖
c*****n
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让本版那些舔共和党的急于漂白的情何以堪
Jeff Sessions刚刚被任命为新一届国会共和党参院移民委员会主席,他的顶头上司是
本版最爱戴的参院司法委员会主席Chuck Grassley,俗称格老。
本版最爱的高科技移民之友--共和党--对STEM移民打脸Policy来了。
硅谷STEM骗局:
http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/67ae7163-6616-4023-a5c4-534c53e6fc26/immigration-primer-for-the-114th-congress.pdf
THE SILICON VALLEY STEM HOAX
The false claim that has gained the most acceptance is the notion that there
is ashortage of qualified Americans with degrees in science, technology,
engineering, andmathematics (STEM). Th... 阅读全帖
d**********r
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来自主题: USANews版 - 有人听说过 gambler's fallacy 吗?
就是说赌徒认为以前赢钱的规律一定实用于下一次,结果连底裤都输掉。
G****e
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critical thinking,小孩能够read logical fallacies了,就让他们读,问题解决。
n**********n
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G****e
发帖数: 11198
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logical fallacies,趁机好好研读一番啊,避免被洗脑。尤其是要推荐给小孩读。
G****e
发帖数: 11198
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来自主题: USANews版 - 去左媒挑逗他们的回复
Every time when I read such a topic, I will ridicule how stupid the writer
is---it's a purely logical fallacy-- to mislead the readers and yes, to
brainwash them and let them stop thinking and reasoning so as to control
them--walking dead.
看到合适的文章,把这段话copy and paste,就走,不管他们怎么回复。倒是会收到很
多”like“。
T**********1
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Circular Reasoning.
Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with
what they are trying to end with. The components of a circular argument are
often logically valid because if the premises are true, the conclusion must
be true.
Often times, it is caused by head injury.
S*******l
发帖数: 4637
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来自主题: USANews版 - 百人回又出雄文
是啊,我注意到很明显的straw man fallacy反复出现,忍不住来提请各位注意一下。
x****d
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Guys,
You also have to look at this from perspective.
Going back 36 years, that is 1982. What was like for female students who was
rebellious as Christine Ford? The stuff back then can be totally un-
acceptable today.
Not mention there is no credible evidence to support her.
We still live in a country that believes "innocent until prove guilty."
This fallacy from left is similar to accusing George Washington is criminal
because he owned slaves; Or your ancestor is murderer because he cut off
som... 阅读全帖
l****z
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August 14, 2019
Rhetoric, healthy debate, and intellectual integrity are concepts that seem
to be increasingly foreign in the world of academia these days.
Professionals who have worked in medical fields their whole lives are
finding that their expertise and experience are no longer wanted. The truth
that they bring to discussions is in direct conflict with the political
ideologies that are being propagated by the reigning ideology of cultural
Marxism.
Long, respectable careers are being ruined ... 阅读全帖
E*V
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: EUV (奶特都是卖国贼), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 【huffington post】胶州湾跨海大桥,美国读者沸腾了。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 4 23:42:41 2011, 美东)
发信人: helloterran (hi you), 信区: Military2
标 题: Re: 【huffington post】胶州湾跨海大桥,美国读者沸腾了。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 3 15:40:06 2011, 美东)
这个评论很有深度
What is in a name? The fundamenta-l story about China is their complete reje
ction to the idea of DEMOCRACY: it does not make sense that ordinary people
can hold national policies at ransom with some sort of voti... 阅读全帖
b*******l
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 内饰质量 - Mercedes-Benz vs. Lexus
You have to make sure that you don't fall for the "better mouse-trap fallacy". Just because it is more technologically innovative and difficult to manufacture, it doesn't necessarily mean it is better for the consumer. What the consumers see is still a blackbox; a blackbox that has many outputs such as safety, performance, comfort, gas consumption and reliability. Toyota and lexus do a very good job at most if not all of these areas.
Many auto-enthusiasts only emphasize on the performance factor... 阅读全帖
b********e
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 内饰质量 - Mercedes-Benz vs. Lexus
Safety: Nissan=Toyota
Performance: Nissan>Toyota
Comfort: Nissan>Toyota
Fuel economy: Toyota>Nissan
Reliability: Toyota>Nissan
平手

fallacy". Just because it is more technologically innovative and difficult
to manufacture, it doesn't necessarily mean it is better for the consumer.
What the consumers see is still a blackbox; a blackbox that has many outputs
such as safety, performance, comfort, gas consumption and reliability.
Toyota and lexus do a very good job at most if not all of these areas.
... 阅读全帖
G*****m
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 内饰质量 - Mercedes-Benz vs. Lexus
toyota内饰如果好点就好了

fallacy". Just because it is more technologically innovative and difficult
to manufacture, it doesn't necessarily mean it is better for the consumer.
What the consumers see is still a blackbox; a blackbox that has many outputs
such as safety, performance, comfort, gas consumption and reliability.
Toyota and lexus do a very good job at most if not all of these areas.
important to note that performance is only one of the many things at which
the general consumers look.
A*******s
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finally some1 points out one fallacy of the report...
another one is only comparing the counts of accidents without comparing the
sale volumes.

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G*K
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对。以点盖面是逻辑fallacy之一
g********d
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shorea (未注册用户) 于 (Wed Jan 15 00:10:55 2014, 美东) 提到:
能买德国车,买德国车去吧。
不久前刚买了个福特escape 2014,因为看各大网站上评价都非常高,价钱也便宜。后
来就到处打电话问价,问到一家最低的,就去了。因为白天上班,只有下了班那一会儿
去,又急着回家;心想新车也就大概看看就成了(现在想想真后悔没多试几次)。先试
了一个车,然后再去选了颜色,看好一个颜色后使劲砍价(已经不是原来试过的那一辆
了),砍到后来dealer不干,我们就回家了。第二天打电话来说,这个价可以。于是晚
上又去。因为还是急着回家,所以又是稍稍试驾了一下,一通谈判误会再谈判,当晚就
把车开回去了。
于是噩梦来了。开回去的当天就觉得,这车减震好像有点问题,开回到家里觉得浑身颠
得难受,心想也许是错觉。好几次之后发现,好像真是颠得有点厉害,感觉还不如我的
破烤肉平稳(我觉得SUV应该是比小车的减震要好的吧,不知道是不是)。我之前也试
驾过、乘坐过朋友的escape 2012,... 阅读全帖
x****d
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The point I was trying to make is EPA is a political agency, setup to
achieve political agendas. The link I provided gave different view on CO2
and other things.
The earth naturally emits 100 times greater CO2, Nitrogen oxides, etc than
human activities. Climate always change, it changed long before Human exists.
VW's act should be punished. They are stupid and brave.
But the whole thing was based pn EPA's fallacy regulations.
b*******n
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来自主题: ChinaStock版 - 归纳推理
逻辑谬误(转载)billinmon 收录于2009-11-05 阅读数:查看 收藏数:18
公众公开 原文来源 
tags: 逻辑
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分散注意力的谬误(Fallacies of Distraction)
两难推理(False Dilemma)
错谬:为多于一个答案的问题提供不足(通常两个)的选择,即是隐藏了一些选择,最
典型的表现是非黑即白观点。
例子:萨达姆是邪恶的,所以美军是正义之师。
解释:除正邪之争外,还有邪邪之争及许多难分正邪的纷争,所以不能单以萨达姆邪恶
便认定美军正义。
诉诸无知(From Ignorance)
错谬:因为不能否定,所以必然肯定,反之亦然。
例子:没有人能证明鬼不存在,那么鬼肯定存在。
解释:总有些事是既不能否定,亦不能肯定的。除了肯定和否定,我们还可以存疑吧!
滑坡谬误(Slippery Slope)
错谬:不合理使用连串因果关系。
例子:迟到的学生要判死刑。因为迟到是不用功的表现;将来工作也不勤力;不勤力导
致公司损失;公司损失就会倒闭;公司倒闭会使人失业;失业造成家庭问题;家
b*******n
发帖数: 1267
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来自主题: ChinaStock版 - 归纳推理
逻辑谬误(转载)billinmon 收录于2009-11-05 阅读数:查看 收藏数:18
公众公开 原文来源 
tags: 逻辑
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分散注意力的谬误(Fallacies of Distraction)
两难推理(False Dilemma)
错谬:为多于一个答案的问题提供不足(通常两个)的选择,即是隐藏了一些选择,最
典型的表现是非黑即白观点。
例子:萨达姆是邪恶的,所以美军是正义之师。
解释:除正邪之争外,还有邪邪之争及许多难分正邪的纷争,所以不能单以萨达姆邪恶
便认定美军正义。
诉诸无知(From Ignorance)
错谬:因为不能否定,所以必然肯定,反之亦然。
例子:没有人能证明鬼不存在,那么鬼肯定存在。
解释:总有些事是既不能否定,亦不能肯定的。除了肯定和否定,我们还可以存疑吧!
滑坡谬误(Slippery Slope)
错谬:不合理使用连串因果关系。
例子:迟到的学生要判死刑。因为迟到是不用功的表现;将来工作也不勤力;不勤力导
致公司损失;公司损失就会倒闭;公司倒闭会使人失业;失业造成家庭问题;家
b*******n
发帖数: 1267
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来自主题: ChinaStock版 - 归纳推理
逻辑谬误(转载)billinmon 收录于2009-11-05 阅读数:查看 收藏数:18
公众公开 原文来源 
tags: 逻辑
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分散注意力的谬误(Fallacies of Distraction)
两难推理(False Dilemma)
错谬:为多于一个答案的问题提供不足(通常两个)的选择,即是隐藏了一些选择,最
典型的表现是非黑即白观点。
例子:萨达姆是邪恶的,所以美军是正义之师。
解释:除正邪之争外,还有邪邪之争及许多难分正邪的纷争,所以不能单以萨达姆邪恶
便认定美军正义。
诉诸无知(From Ignorance)
错谬:因为不能否定,所以必然肯定,反之亦然。
例子:没有人能证明鬼不存在,那么鬼肯定存在。
解释:总有些事是既不能否定,亦不能肯定的。除了肯定和否定,我们还可以存疑吧!
滑坡谬误(Slippery Slope)
错谬:不合理使用连串因果关系。
例子:迟到的学生要判死刑。因为迟到是不用功的表现;将来工作也不勤力;不勤力导
致公司损失;公司损失就会倒闭;公司倒闭会使人失业;失业造成家庭问题;家
c*********7
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you cannot say that ex-post
logical fallacy
A********e
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【 以下文字转载自 Biology 讨论区 】
发信人: albertsmwk (.)(.), 信区: Biology
标 题: 第一批“青年千人计划”生物类@publication列表@
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 18 15:04:16 2011, 美东)
花了一个小时,深深的鄙视一下自己的无聊行径!!
125 蔡亮 男 1980年11月 复旦大学 生命
科学 2007年12月毕业于[美国]北卡大学 [美国]加州大学旧金山分校 博士后
Cai L, Mostov K. Polarity is destiny. Cell. 2009 Nov 13;139(4):660-2. PubMed
PMID: 19914162; PubMed Central PMCID: PMC2900917.
Cai L, Makhov AM, Schafer DA, Bear JE. Coronin 1B antagonizes cortactin and
remodels Arp2/3-containing actin branche... 阅读全帖
c****n
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【 以下文字转载自 Mathematics 讨论区 】
发信人: pmsl (pmsl), 信区: Mathematics
标 题: 王孟源对丘成桐的答复zz
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 4 09:36:15 2016, 美东)
回答丘成桐教授
发表时间:2016-09-01 07:18:40
请支持独立网站,转发请注明本文链接:http://www.guancha.cn/QiuChengTong/2016_09_01_373061_s.shtml

(作者:王孟源 原文发表于作者在中国时报的专栏博客)

过去这个月,我原本有好几个话题要谈,包括中英关系、LHC的实验结果和CIA最新的幕
后运作,因为手臂受伤,就暂时搁置。没想到有媒体拿我的文章去质问丘成桐教授,现
在有好事的读者和媒体牵线,要我答复。我被逼上梁山,只好忍着手臂痛楚,慢慢打出
这篇文章。

丘教授的评论是这样开头的:王孟源在高能物理界籍籍无名,我是哈佛数学教授,我同
伙的超弦大佬们比他论文发得多的太多了。

大家还记得我写过的《美国式的恐龙法官(三)》那篇文章吗?如果有媒体拿它去质... 阅读全帖
I********e
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来自主题: Family版 - 婆媳矛盾,求意见
There are so many fallacies in your post I don't even know where to start...
z******d
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 生物 PHD 报个转码工的 offer
楼主说的 去年 Poo 在神经所的讲话 拜读了,
(edit: 顺便贴在这里,应该是这篇吧 科学追求的事实和谬论
Facts and Fallacies in Science 
蒲慕明 Mu-ming Poo
2011.12.29 16:30-17:15
http://www.guokr.com/post/84250/
)
谢谢分享。
Good luck & have fun!
z******d
发帖数: 93
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 生物 PHD 报个转码工的 offer
楼主说的 去年 Poo 在神经所的讲话 拜读了,
(edit: 顺便贴在这里,应该是这篇吧 科学追求的事实和谬论
Facts and Fallacies in Science 
蒲慕明 Mu-ming Poo
2011.12.29 16:30-17:15
http://www.guokr.com/post/84250/
)
谢谢分享。
Good luck & have fun!
c*****r
发帖数: 214
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 关于FB的Bootcamp
From Quora:
Facebook Engineering Bootcamp: What does it feel like to not make it through
Facebook Engineering Bootcamp?
Also, would love to hear about those who've moved on to bigger better things.

Joel Seligstein, Bootcamp Engineering Manager
28 votes by Tudor Achim, Anon User, Adrien Ecoffet, (more)
I've been asked to answer this question now a couple of times, and have
debated a bit about how to answer or really whether to answer at all.
In short, this question is fairly irrelevant, and it... 阅读全帖
i******k
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经济学上有一个名词,叫做sunk cost fallacy. 很多人因为已经在一个项目上起
步花了钱,即使项目不好,也觉得自己一定要继续投资源,否则以前的钱就”浪费“掉
了。
“很多人对“浪费”资源很担忧害怕,被称为“损失憎恶”。比如说很多人会强迫自己
看一场根本不想看的电影,因为他们怕浪费了买票的钱。这有时被叫做“沉没成本谬误
”(然而对于完美主义者这也可能是一种满足性效益)。经济学家们会称这些人的行为
“不理智”,因为类似行为低效,基于毫不相关的信息作出决定错误地分配了资源。”
买房子也是这样。仅仅因为自己花了几百元的手续费,就舍不得走开,那么买了房子以
后几万元的修理费算什么?以后卖不掉房子空置损失算什么?
有些时候,理论上都懂,可是感情上还是放不下。
B******1
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Another fallacy: 于是少年得志。很容易就失去踏实苦干的态度..
Well, possibility does not equal certainty.
The opposite might be true as well:
Those who struggle to get high scores feel frustrated because even if they spend 20% more time than those so-called 少年得志, they would not catch the latter in the future. Why not give up and spend more time playing! Hence 少年不得志,很容易就失去踏实苦干的态度
The assumption that those 少年得志 很容易就失去踏实苦干的态度 is that these overachievers spent less time and get more results. Mostly true. But that assumpt... 阅读全帖
f*******e
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谨以此文献给准备推孩子爬藤、读博、考医学院的父母们,呵呵。
如果哪怕仅仅有一家人看了此文,决定不卖房供孩子爬藤、读博、考医学院,我就积德
了,呵呵。
The 10 Steps to Make Your Kid A Millionaire
[The 10 Steps to Make Your Kid A Millionaire]
We're spending our children's money. So goes the refrain from people
appalled at the government's deficits. As long as entitlement spending and
tax collections continue on their present course, it's an undeniable truth.
Instead of wringing your hands, do something about it. Make your children
so prosperous that they can withstand the... 阅读全帖
B******1
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 林同学的事迹告诉我们
Logic fallacies found again: False Analogy and Straw Man.
My reasoning does not say that Asians CANNOT play hoops. Rather, my
reasoning says the fact that Asians do not compete well at the highest level of hoops - NBA -
proves that they do not have the best chance, in terms of genetics, of making it to the top.
If you have evidence that there are many more Linsanity currently playing
in NBA, let me know.
Any the analogy you used is ??? Well, in your case, you can do whatever you want. But if you... 阅读全帖
B******1
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 观所谓辩论的艺术有感
Again, learn the art of debate.
Logical fallacy: Ad Hominem
B******1
发帖数: 9094
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I think the reasoning used by Confucius was flawed. He used a special
example - a defective container - to derive a general conclusion to all
containers. If you were an enginer, you would laugh at Confucius' suggestion
that a half-filled container is better than a totally filled container.
This fallacy is called Hasty Generalization through which an inductive
generalization is reached by focusing on insufficient evidence —
essentially making a hasty conclusion without considering all of the
vari... 阅读全帖
B******1
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在你们的中文版"号召书"中有这么一句"哈佛大学年初时被教育部调查是否在录取上
对亚裔有歧视之嫌,今年亚裔的录取率就是近年来最高的,比往年增加了15%。"
Hehe, logical fallacy. Correlation does not equal causation. The reason
could be that 2012 is the Dragon year!
我查了一下,这个调查开始15天之后就被停止了,因为起诉的人撤诉了,现在也没有
类似的调查。这都是事实。80-20作为一个标榜自己多么神圣的组织,连这种给别
人抹黑给自己贴金的下三烂的伎俩都使得出来,欺负我们中国人没脑子,没逻辑,没调
查研究的能力,是不是?
你的谎言可能欺骗部分人一世,也可能蒙所有人一时,但你决不可能唬弄
所有人一辈子!等潮水落下去的时候,你会发现自己的泳裤都没了!
他们那场的21个学生几乎都是亚裔小朋友,颁奖的时候孩子们几乎也都考上了级。
Hehe. If you look at the other facet of the problem, why no OTHER races pay
such... 阅读全帖
B******1
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来自主题: Parenting版 - SHOW一下我的新头像和签名档!
1) The author's name was wrong.
2) The style of the writing is called "satirical."
3) The greatest danger is to copy and paste everything without thinking
about anything!
4) Logical fallacy: quoting out of context.
B******1
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 某些华人独善其身也就罢了
Logical fallacies:
Faulty Generalization: Even though you have 70W email substribers, you might
not have 70W MEMBERS. 80-20 admits it only has about 3,150 members. To see
how this plays out, let's look at the recent poll 80-20 conducted regarding
the so-call discriminative admission policy. How many total votes were
counted? Less than 5W, most of them are NOT 80-20 members or email
substribers.. 70W vs. 5W vs. 3150. I would say the 70W email substription
service is not effective, to say the lea... 阅读全帖
L********r
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Good response!
Anyway, as for this specific case LZ described, I would recommend LZ
approach the kid with the straight answer but leave room for her to correct
her behavior by herself. For example, point out to her the fallacy in her
statement and all the obvious facts, and tell her that her answer is
actually an insult to LZ's intelligence and totally not acceptable. Then
offer her one day to think it over, then face LZ with the true story and her
corrections, otherwise LZ will make sure her pa... 阅读全帖
L*****h
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你考 LSAT 呀
您老是英文长篇大论,还喜欢揪别人拼写错误,
可惜写六个英文词还错了一个
logical fallacies not logical fallies
l******a
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poisonous (poisonous) 于 (Fri Jun 15 16:01:12 2012, 美东) 提到:
难道就是因为他是单身母亲养大的,我儿是double income family的?一样的教育环境
,一样的课外活动,一样的成绩,一样的社区服务,但不一样的肤色决定了不同的命运
。这在一个标榜平等的社会里公平吗?
说到弱势群体,难道我们不是弱势群体吗?孩子们上学要傅双倍的努力。还担心被划入
nerd的行列。从一出生他们就没有在同一起跑线上,这对他们不公平。谁是犹太人没有
写在脸上,但谁是亚裔,一眼便知,一生也不会变。
在美国屁大的事都有人去小白楼举牌子,我们也应voice out,为我们的下一代,为我们
的族裔。我要建议员!
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mamallama (dahema) 于 (Fri Jun 15 16:02:07 2012, 美东) 提到:
举牌子,去抗议!
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B******1
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[IF] it is white, then it is white.
The above statement is a circular reasoning, one form of logical fallacies.
Circular logic cannot prove a conclusion because, if the conclusion is
doubted, the premise which leads to it will also be doubted.
s******e
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as if that could help me a bit...
sorry your logical fallacie mumbo jumbo does not help you or me, a bit. so
enjoy about reading and talking about it for free.
c******i
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你这逻辑跳跃得。。。怎么说呢?
你是如何推理出大侄子提倡弱肉强食,无耻,抢石油,灭种,活埋的呢?
建议参考:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
另,请核实事实:米国国债是米国拿后清挣痔菊子孙当人质逼着后清当局买的吗?
又,请核实事实:后清的户口制度,辅导员制度,毕业分配制度,算不算领袖了剥削其
他人?完蛋了吗?谁完蛋了?

你。
c******i
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很显然,好好说话,这个“好好”的标准,有些人硬是和黑白颠倒的。
大侄子原帖的题目是比较中美教育的差别。
而这几个赵钱孙李,避而不谈帖子题目内容,反而挑剔作者身份是不是张三李四王二麻
子,又是傻啊,二呀,脑残啊之类的往上招呼。
这在形式逻辑上是个典型的fallacy, character attack,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
这是后清尚黑组织惯用的批深批透批倒批臭打翻在地再踏上一万只脚的路数。
这就是尚黑组织五毛所谓的“好好说话”的标准。
而一旦提出后清的户口制度,辅导员制度,毕业分配制度是否培养奴才制度的事实,立
刻就被倒打一耙成为“看不懂”的不好好说话的了。
c******i
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你这逻辑跳跃得。。。怎么说呢?
你是如何推理出大侄子提倡弱肉强食,无耻,抢石油,灭种,活埋的呢?
建议参考:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
另,请核实事实:米国国债是米国拿后清挣痔菊子孙当人质逼着后清当局买的吗?
又,请核实事实:后清的户口制度,辅导员制度,毕业分配制度,算不算领袖了剥削其
他人?完蛋了吗?谁完蛋了?

你。
c******i
发帖数: 4091
47
很显然,好好说话,这个“好好”的标准,有些人硬是和黑白颠倒的。
大侄子原帖的题目是比较中美教育的差别。
而这几个赵钱孙李,避而不谈帖子题目内容,反而挑剔作者身份是不是张三李四王二麻
子,又是傻啊,二呀,脑残啊之类的往上招呼。
这在形式逻辑上是个典型的fallacy, character attack,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
这是后清尚黑组织惯用的批深批透批倒批臭打翻在地再踏上一万只脚的路数。
这就是尚黑组织五毛所谓的“好好说话”的标准。
而一旦提出后清的户口制度,辅导员制度,毕业分配制度是否培养奴才制度的事实,立
刻就被倒打一耙成为“看不懂”的不好好说话的了。
c******i
发帖数: 4091
48
来自主题: Parenting版 - 中国人的家教应该是什么样的?
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发信人: rainlion (rainlion), 信区: Parenting
标 题: Re: 中美教育之差3 (16岁高中少年的思想)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 21 00:58:24 2012, 美东)
要说话 就好好说话 好好讨论
不会说话就回去让父母重新教你说话 一副没有家教的样子 就算你真的是有远见的 真
的说的有道理 又有谁愿意听你说呢?
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(在下深感中国传统的礼仪廉耻家教被后清尚黑组织摧毁得不成样子,所以罗嗦几句。)
摆事实讲道理的算不算好好说话?
黔驴技穷说不出道理,贼喊捉贼只知道人身攻击的,现在狗急跳墙,升级到父母了?
就这种家教,先标记下来,给版主和围观群众做个备份。
很显然,好好说话,这个“好好”的标准,有些人硬是和黑白颠倒的。
大侄子原帖的题目是比较中美教育的差别。
而这几个赵钱孙李,避而不谈帖子题目内容,反而挑剔作者身份是不是张... 阅读全帖
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1. 综合你1,2,3点, 你认为你处在单身而有钱的情况已然是你个人人生的顶点。
2. 但是这个板上其他有家庭的人没有办法也没有动力变成象你一样的单身汉, 因为他
们认为有家庭的人生对于他们的payoff大于单身。
3. 因此你的说教对于2中所述人群没有意义。你自己如何厉害, 有其特殊实用性, 不
可推而广之, please google "fallacy of hasty generalization".
B******1
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来自主题: Parenting版 - Support Asian American students!!!
Did the numbers of White, Black, and Hispanic (especially) rise every year??
Why did not the graph show the numbers of the other ethnic groups together
with the Asian youth? Draw those lines, and you will see different things.
Another way to draw the graph may be to draw the percentage of donations
made to Ivy schools by each ethinic group.
Numbers and percentages is the key concept in flaws in logical thinking.
Another way to see the flaw in the reasoning: according to the graph, if the
Asian p... 阅读全帖
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