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g****r
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 八种武器(二)快球/Fastball
八种武器(二)快球/Fastball
还记得《小李飞刀》里的阿飞么?他没有剑招,出剑的秘诀就在于--快。
小李飞刀也在于快,快得连上官金虹都没办法躲过。
傅红雪也在于快,看见他刀光的人都已经不在人世了。。。。。
可见,快确实威力无比。棒球里Pitcher们的第一种武器就是快球。
快球有多快呢?90麦/小时以上。等一下,我拿个计算器。
一麦是1.6公里。一小时是3600秒。所以90麦/小时相当于40米/秒。
从投手丘的最高点到本垒板,距离是18.44米。(没错吧?)
那么,如果你是个击球手,快球从Pitchers出手到你面前,只需要0.46秒。
0.46秒是什么概念?
大概就是快速地眨一下眼的功夫。真是电光火闪一般。
所以,千万不要嘲笑那些被快球三振出局的击球手们。
因为在MLB里,面对那些魔鬼般的Pitcher们扔过来的子弹般的快球,
要击中一次实在是件很了不起的事。
这也是为啥Barry Bonds强调的眼和手的协调性之重要了。
快球作为棒球里历史最悠久的球路,在无数能人志士手里发展出了很多很多种变化。
最常见的是两种:4-seam fastball和2-seam fastball。
a*****i
发帖数: 4391
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Joba's fastball gets me worried.
He lost 5 mph on his fastball before the trip to DL.
I hope his arm/shoulder/elbow is fine.
a*****i
发帖数: 4391
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Tex seeing more fastballs?
http://www.statisticianmagician.com/?p=158
Last night, on the ESPN broadcast of the Yankees/Rangers game. Rick
Sutcliffe said that Mark Teixeira has been getting more fastballs since Alex
Rodriguez came back from a torn labrum.
I know that I have written about this before, about how Tex was a great
hitter and was going to get hot about that time anyway, as he does every
single year. But now I have some evidence.
Dave Allen over at The Baseball Analysts wrote a good piece questioning
whether or
r****m
发帖数: 1264
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 今天谈谈几种球路
逛了几个华人的BBS棒球版,还是台湾人的最有深度。
毕竟是棒球早先发达的地方。那里的球迷蛮内行的。
讨论的问题不可同日而语。
水母的没法去,不知道深浅。
北大比这里多人气,大致浏览其精华区,一般。
还有片文章讲到MITBBS,对这里充满不切之实的看法/幻想,
可见虽然是INTERNET时代,但还是无法突破地理障碍,
停留在雾里看花层次。
今天谈谈几种球路。个人就经常搞混老美口中的这些棒球名词,也见
到其它不同的说法和翻译。
根据看了一个下午BBS心得作个学习笔记/毕竟没有实战的经历,纯粹
纸上谈兵,不免饴笑大方,老鸟们就包涵则个。
投手的球路控制主要是靠三点:球速、球路轨迹变化、配速。
相应的三种不同用途的球路类型有fastball, breaking ball, and
offspeed,个人觉得这一般是约定俗成的讲法/还不能成为正式定义
的名词巴。
fastball通常就是指快速直球,但也不是绝对的直球,很多fastball
是非常有尾劲的,例如sinker/sink fastball, cutter/cut
fastball, 都归在fastball,MLB的球速可以达90+mi
z******n
发帖数: 1223
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http://www.my-youth-baseball.com/difference-between-sinker-ball
"I would consider them both types of fastballs, so to speak. I would say
that:
A sinker (伸卡球) is a fastball that gradually moves downward.
A splitter (快速指叉球) is more like a breaking pitch in that a good one
“falls off the table” at the end."
那么伸卡球一般是导致滚地球出局,指叉球则是swing and miss,Koji Uehara就十分
依赖指叉球
以下据wiki
具体到王建民的sinker:
His sinker, which is responsible for his elevation to ace status, has very
impressive lateral movement (大概指的是水平移动吧... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 4256
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来自主题: Taiwan版 - 带食日落
建民95mile的sinking fastball 是在美国洋基练成的。
据说他95mile的sinking fastball很难打,因为sinking fastball有强烈的下旋,所以
像个保龄球一样滚过来一样,打击一碰球就弹地,全是DP和infield 的球,所以打击很
头疼。而且sinking fastball很难投到95,一般就89,90左右。
而且他投球动作很顺很smooth,不太像会受伤的那种,所以真的很可惜。
投手是最重要的,防守其次。
r****m
发帖数: 1264
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 今天谈谈几种球路
一个讲4-seam fastball and 2-seam fastball的
发信人: JKL@Palmarama (Noresize) 看板: Baseball
标 题: Re: 【转贴】螺旋球与伸卡球 -- by fjs
发信站: 台大计中椰林风情站 (Wed Feb 9 20:33:20 2000)
==> poppet (Perfect-Desperado) 提到:
> talking about this...do everybody ever read the
Comics
> it talks about "4-seam" ball and 2-seam ball
嗯,耶鲁的教授把这个问题解释清楚花了叁章,要简单的说明真不
容易。
基本上快速球投出的时候,旋转的方向由叁垒方向看过来为逆时钟
方向。two-seam fastball与four-seam fastball的差异在握球时,
在旋转的圆周上绕过两道缝线或是四道缝线的差异。如果拿颗棒球来
看,这两种握球的角度在球体上约相差九十度。
从流体力学课本中对球体的讨论我们可
G*****e
发帖数: 2577
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【 以下文字转载自 Music 讨论区 】
发信人: Glavine (Tommy-MayFlowerPork), 信区: Music
标 题: 【翻唱】glavine-The Way-based on a true story
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 4 22:33:35 2013, 美东)
ID:
glavine
歌名:
The Way -- by Fastball
翻唱说明:
手机党来凑热闹。。。。
此歌基于一个真实的事件。。。(wiki)
......Fastball bassist Tony Scalzo came up with the idea for the song after
reading journalistic articles which described the disappearance of an older
married couple, Lela and Raymond Howard from Salado, Texas, who left home in
June 1997 to attend the Pioneer... 阅读全帖
g******a
发帖数: 667
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 今天谈谈几种球路
splitter基本上应该算fastball啦。fastball还包括shoot ball,这个是
日本人的叫法,球的路线很诡异,右投对右打时是往内角里钻
变化球中还有一个著名的是screwball螺丝球,是左投用来对付右打的利
器,它的飞行轨迹正好和曲球相反,左投投出是往右打的外角飞。不过
这种投法非常伤手,现在已经很少人用了,不用的另外一个原因是sinker
的发明。sinker的轨迹很象screwball,不过不同的是sinker的速度快,
相应的变化幅度小一些。
美国人把fastball分为two-seamer和four-seamer。区别是手指和缝线的
相对位置。two-seamer的球速慢一些,但有尾劲,相反four-seamer的
球速快,但轨迹缺乏变化。
还有一种球路叫knuckleball,就是蝴蝶球,球速最慢,球出手后不旋转,
因此在气流扰动的影响下会显得非常飘,打手很难打中。不过对捕手也
一样是个考验啦。
g******a
发帖数: 667
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Randy Johnson 4 CY, 95~97 fastball, 88~92 slider
Curt Schilling 0 CY, 94~96 high fastball, splitter in dirt
Pedro Martinez 4 CY, fastball, curveball, changeup,
Tom Glavine 2 CY, cutter, changeup, finesse pitcher
Greg Maddux 4 CY, cutter, changeup, finesse pitcher
Derek Lowe 0 CY, sinker, curveball, closer-converted
最近比较火的就这些。
J*C
发帖数: 4579
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http://tw.news.yahoo.com/mlb-%E5%AD%A3%E6%9C%AB%E6%9C%80%E5%A4%
陳偉殷大概還剩兩場先發,我想金鶯教練團,除非必要,應該不會再讓他投一休四了。
因為當今天陳偉殷在第六局,用12球三振掉桑德斯(Michael Saunders)之後,他的肢
體語言,很明顯看得出來他已經累了。
要說明一點:大聯盟的馬拉松球季,不只是比賽密集,投一休四等等... 還包括客場移
動(即使是坐飛機)的舟車勞頓,一向都是沒有體驗過這種生活的年輕選手,以及年紀
大的球員的最大考驗!所以當老球員退休後,你常常聽到他們會說,他們最不會懷念的
,就是飛來飛去的大聯盟生活。
而無論陳偉殷賽後承不承認他累了(很多球員不願意承認,因為不想被認為是找藉口)
,今天這場比賽,以及桑德斯那個三振之後的肢體語言,已經說明的很清楚了。
而今天的比賽,陳偉殷速球的控球方面,低角度的速球,整體來說控的不錯;但幾次捕
手威特斯(Matt Wieters)想要配「high fastball」,這個陳偉殷對打者的犀利武器
,今天卻老是控不好。而且今天他速球的尾勁不像以往那麼好,也導致他... 阅读全帖
k******i
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Masahiro Tanaka, the 25-year-old Japanese right-hander who was 24-0 for the
Rakuten Golden Eagles last season, has agreed to a seven-year, $155 million
contract with the New York Yankees, sources said Wednesday morning.
As part of the new rules governing the system that allows Japanese players t
o sign with a U.S. club, the Yankees will pay an additional $20 million to R
akuten. Tanaka can opt out of the contract after four years.
For $175 million, then, the Yankees sign the best starting pitche... 阅读全帖
G*****e
发帖数: 2577
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ID:
glavine
歌名:
The Way -- by Fastball
翻唱说明:
手机党来凑热闹。。。。
此歌基于一个真实的事件。。。(wiki)
......Fastball bassist Tony Scalzo came up with the idea for the song after
reading journalistic articles which described the disappearance of an older
married couple, Lela and Raymond Howard from Salado, Texas, who left home in
June 1997 to attend the Pioneer Day festival at nearby Temple, Texas,
despite Lela's Alzheimers and Raymond recently coming from brain surgery.
They were discovered two weeks later, dead, at th... 阅读全帖
G****a
发帖数: 10208
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The last time the St. Louis Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants met in
the playoffs, in the 2012 National League Championship Series, the Cardinals
jumped out to a three-games-to-one lead and had a chance to close out the
series at home. Then the Giants stormed back, winning the last three games
in swift, dominating fashion.
John Mozeliak, the Cardinals’ general manager, recalled that series, the
collapse and the aftermath during batting practice Sunday evening. The
Cardinals did not sound an... 阅读全帖
b****e
发帖数: 985
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Re: I watched the whole game this morning
i watched the 1st inning.
jeter led off, got jammed by a fastball inside,
weak ground ball to shortstop for the first out of the season.
matui batted 2nd and worked patiently to a 3-1 count.
zambrano decided to challenge him with a fastball down the middle,
which matui ripped hard to the gap for a standup double.
next came arod's first AB in pinstripe uniform.
with 1st base open, zambrano didn't throw anything hittable
and got him looking with a beautiful 2-2 curveball.
with 1 on 2 out, giambi b
g****r
发帖数: 88
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 八种武器(三)Changeup
八种武器(三)Changeup
什么是人生成功的最重要因素?是机遇。
在球场上,对于击球手也是一样。
只不过不叫机遇罢了,而叫timing。
如果说人生机遇是可遇而不可求的,
那么这个击球的timing就很具有主观能动性。
好的击球手,能做到球到-棒到-力道也要到。所谓三到。
那pitcher同志们就不能让你这么舒服了,会想方设法破坏你对timing的判断。
这就要依靠一个字,那就是---"骗"。
骗的手法有很多种。这里讲的是Changeup。也就是本系列的第二种武器。
这种球的握法初看上去和上回讲的fastball是一摸一样的。
但仔细一看,却有不同。
fastball是食指和中指卡住球的上方,握得非常浅(我上回也特别强调这个"浅"字)。
而Changeup是中指、无名指和小指覆盖住球,握得很深。另外,食指盖住大拇指
形成一个小环。
扔的时候,Pitcher把作用力用在在球的中心部位(扔快球时是用力在非中心
部位)。其他方面都和快球完全一样。
但效果是:Changeup能比快球慢上10麦/小时。(速度大概是80麦/小时)
对于打击手而言,从pitcher的肩部、腕部和球的转动而言,
g****r
发帖数: 88
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 八种武器(四)曲线球/Curveball
八种武器(四)曲线球/Curveball
这世界上什么最美?曲线最美。
学素描的人,第一堂课就是要画曲线,画各种各样的曲线。
熟练的画师,拿支铅笔在白纸上随手一画,就是条动人的曲线。
在棒球运动里,pitcher同学们也用各种各样的curveball,划出优美的曲线。
在我们讲第一种武器-fastball-的时候,我们知道快球在飞行的过程中,
是从上往下旋转的。(这样magnus force能够往上"托"球,使球的飞行线路相对较直)
而曲球则完全相反--它是从下往上转的。
在投曲球时,拿球的基本动作以及投球的启动动作和fastball非常类似。
只是在快出手的时候,手腕翻转,使大拇指在上方,食指和中指在下方然后用力一拨,
于是出手时,球就是从下往上快速旋转的。
这样,球在飞行时,就受到两个向下的力--地心引力和magnus力。
于是下坠幅度较大。(注:关于magnus力,参加本系列第一篇《让我们聊聊物理》)
曲球的球速比快球慢11-15麦/小时左右。
曲球的作用是:
1。常扰乱batters的视线,让对方以为是快速直球被迷惑。于是常常挥棒落空。
2。pitcher同学们扔曲球时通过调整
r**********e
发帖数: 2821
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接近40个pitchs一个splitter没有?基本就是fastball+几个slider和一个change up.
fastball比例太高了,多练练splitter就好了,当初县令不是教帮帮了
a*****i
发帖数: 4391
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来自主题: Baseball版 - mike lowell
It depends on the pitcher that you are gonna swing at 1st pitch or not.
If the pitcher seems aggressive, attacking the strike zone, you have
to swing at the 1st pitch, because it might be the best fastball
you are gonna see for the whole At Bat.
It is not a good idea if you are always going to let the 1st pitch go.
ARod caught the 1st pitch BP fastball and hit it out of the park.
G******f
发帖数: 16223
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 拍拍幫真敗家
应该是scouts的汇报然后教练设计的。记得看red sox rule那本书里面,讲到2007ALCS
sox对indians的时候,scouts汇报说upton打fastball总要慢半秒,结果没想到那天刮
大风,beckett的一个fastball就被homer了,把beckett气疯了。
crawford下来说,pap的那几个球看起来特deceiving,他以为是好球,结果挥棒的时候
才发现高了。。。说他们以后会记住。。 哈哈
G******f
发帖数: 16223
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来自主题: Baseball版 - nick green真是全才
and he got a 4-seam fastball, 2-seam fastball, slider and moderately filthy
CUTTER!! lol~
r**********e
发帖数: 2821
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 爬坡帮现在越来越shaky了
头几年还有三个pitch,fastball, slider, split finger,
现在越投fastball越多,指叉快球基本不用了,用了基本没人上当,投得太差了。
a*****i
发帖数: 4391
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Cracks in AL contenders
Buster Olney Blog:
Cracks in the AL contenders
Thursday, September 17, 2009 | Feedback | Print Entry
The count was full, the bases were loaded and Brian Fuentes fired a fastball
at the lowest part of the strike zone Wednesday night, and when home plate
umpire Rick Reed called the pitch a ball -- the K Zone indicated that
Fuentes' fastball nicked the strike zone -- and the tying run walked home,
Angels manager Mike Scioscia was incredulous. His lower jaw may or may not
have bounced off the dugout
n*******e
发帖数: 2213
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 谁能科普一下国民队的新秀
I do not know. but to me his four seamer is flat with little
movement. he had a great slider/curve ball on Tuesday. it
set up his fastball. on days he does not have this, hitters
will sit on his fastball and he will be hit hard. of coz, this
is a big if.
again, I do not know.
q**u
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看电视转播的时候判断球的类型算是相对容易的,毕竟视角接近投手。判断标准基本就
是球走的曲线和球速。譬如说,一个右手投手投出去的球,又直又快(4-seam
fastball),略往右下沉同时也挺快(2-seam fastball),略往左下拐速度也挺快(
cutter),拐得多点儿速度稍慢点儿(slider),等等等等。。。
n*******e
发帖数: 2213
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Yankees这阵容
I refuse to believe that Doc is gone. I am actually very puzzled about the
outcome of yesterday's game. He recorded 10 outs. Out of 10, 9 were
strikeouts. His fastball had an average speed of 89 mph. Not great, but not
bad either. It must be that his fastballs did not have movements and he
failed to locate. That suggests his mechanics weas not right.
But this is Doc. How could he not be able to fix his mechanics?!
n*******e
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他上次上来的时候我看了两场他的比赛。我觉得他的sinker还在,但是速度下降,貌似
移动也变差。他这种power sinker, if the ball does not explode at the plate,
he will be hit hard.
What's worse is that his slider is flat. His slider has never been great.
But it looked like a fastball and is slower. When he had that power sinker,
a slider can create strikeout due to the speed difference, like changeup
pitchers do with changeups. A flat slider + slower fastball, however, is a
very bad combination.
I still think he has a future. But he's got to get ... 阅读全帖
h******v
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Good point. 为了知己知彼,google了:
1. Miller isn't in the rotation for a simple reason: his four-seam
fastball backed up late in the season, and wasn't the same pitch that made
him so overpowering for much of the regular season. And if Miller doesn't
have a potent four-seam fastball, he's vulnerable.
2. The Cardinals have downplayed this, but the organization has concerns
over arm fatigue. The team didn't want to push Miller, who worked a career-
high 173 innings this season. Given Miller's age... 阅读全帖
n*******e
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Red Sox make offers
够呛。他从前算个power pitcher,靠fastball 来 set up off speed pitches.
Last two years his fastball dropped below 88, which is OK. But at the same
time the sinking motion for whatever reason was gone.
He's not like Greg Maddux. I am sure if Maddux wanted, he could pitch into
his 60s and still get people out. I do hope that he could find his mechanics
back. He now really needs to paint the corners.
z******n
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所以投手讲究deceptive release,尤其是fastball和changeup如果能用尽量相似的动
作投出来会有很好的效果
据Kevin Millar爆料,Ryan Dempster原先只在投slider之前做那个拧手套的动作,当
时的队友Millar建议他要是改不掉就干脆每个球都拧,于是就这样了。
另据Millar,Buccholz投出no hitter的时候他是对手打线一员,说那场是金莺
scouting失误,没有报告Buccholz有一手轨迹很直很像fastball的changeup
n*******e
发帖数: 2213
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 全明星都没水?
送完娃去上班的十分钟里,听ESPN radio,还听到了这个。
Pete Rose once had a 44 game hitting streak. The game that ended his streak
was a 16:4 blown-out by the Braves. After the game, Rose blasted Braves
pitchers because he was given nothing to hit (read no fastball).
I kinda agree with him. Under those circumstances, Braves should have only
thrown fastballs. Guess Rose had beef with them somehow?
G****a
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The last time the St. Louis Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants met in
the playoffs, in the 2012 National League Championship Series, the Cardinals
jumped out to a three-games-to-one lead and had a chance to close out the
series at home. Then the Giants stormed back, winning the last three games
in swift, dominating fashion.
John Mozeliak, the Cardinals’ general manager, recalled that series, the
collapse and the aftermath during batting practice Sunday evening. The
Cardinals did not sound an... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Baseball版 - sf Hudson真不行
这家伙fastball最后只有80mph左右
而且也是越投越少,后面都靠off-speed
Colon现在还主要靠90mph的fastball
h*********r
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光是fastball还是不行。
好的breaking ball要比fastball管用。
q**x
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唱得很好啊,上设备吧,呵呵。。。
喜欢有故事的歌。凄美的故事跟欢快的音乐,强烈的对比呀。要是现实跟作者想象的一
样美好该多好。
刚搜了一下,找到更详细一点的介绍:
来自于Fastball的这首“The way”是一首很感人的歌。这首1998年的旧歌是Fastball
乐队贝斯手Tony Scalzo受一个真实的故事启发而写的。有一对来自美国德州的夫妇
Lela and Raymond Howard,妻子Lela患有阿尔茨海默氏病(Alzheimer’s Disease)
,即常说的“老人痴呆症”,丈夫Raymond则刚做完脑部手术。某天他们开车到附近参
加完家庭聚会后,就驶上高速公路,并神秘消失,不知所终。他们失踪后,德州奥斯丁
一家报纸专门写了一篇文章报导关于这对老夫妻。同样来自奥斯丁的Tony Scalzo对这
故事很感兴趣,幻想着Howard夫妇浪漫地远离俗世烦嚣,云游四海have fun去了,并写
了这首充满理想主义和传奇色彩的The Way,录入当年最佳专辑《All The Pain Money
Can Buy》中并成为经典。然而现实总是残酷的,就在Tony Scalzo写完... 阅读全帖
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Link:
http://itunes.apple.com/app/fastball-2/id376575858?mt=8
Fastball 2. Free for a limited time. Normally $1.99. Get it before the
price goes up.
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来自主题: Military版 - 中国核武(1964--1996)
1988年。。。。真是一点都不设防。。。对美国间谍是有问必答。
For starters, Stillman asked the professor, "Does the Chinese nuclear
weapons program have a prompt burst reactor?" Such an experimental reactor,
typically located in a remote area, can operate supercritically for a
fraction of a second and thereby simulate the efflux of radiation and
particles from a nuclear detonation. Yang's answer: "Of course."
Stillman pulled out a map of Sichuan Province. "Can you show me where it is?
" He thought he already knew the answer,... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 家有女儿的:女神还是女汉子?
女神还是女汉子?昨天 ESPN 节目里看到的:最神的地方是她最想上的大学是
University of Connecticut,而不是哈佛!因为她喜欢那个大学的篮球队。
莫奈•戴维斯(Mo'ne Davis)
年龄:13
国籍:美国
成就:女性黑人运动员登上体育杂志封面的情况并不多见,更何况是一个孩子。去年8
月,美国13岁的棒球手莫奈•戴维斯就创造了这样一个神话,当时媒体报道她的
题目是“记住她的名字”。她是美国费城坦尼龙棒球队的投球手,在世界少年棒球联赛
一场关键性的比赛中,以一记投球绝杀对手。虽然在整个比赛中她所在的队最终未能赢
得冠军,但她已抢尽风头,获米歇尔•奥巴马等多位名人的嘉许。许多人十分看
好她在体育界的前景,她也成为了美国少男少女的偶像。
Mo'ne Davis is still only 13 -- but the multi-sport star with the 70 mph
fastball was the face of the Little League World Series last summer after
sh... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Stock版 - 这本书
这本书没什么数学技术。但是远胜技术书籍。很多预测的实践tricks
The Signal and The Noise was published in the United States on September 27,
2012. It reached the New York Times Best Sellers List as #12 for non-
fiction hardback books after its first week in print. It dropped to #20 in
the second week, before rising to #13 in the third, and remaining on the non
-fiction hardback top 15 list for the following 13 weeks, with a highest
weekly ranking of #4.[90] Sales increased after the election on November 6,
jumping 800% and b... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Brett Myers
watched his first start yesterday. Very impressive. His got good
control over his curveballs, fastballs and breaking balls. He does
not have power but when he controls well he fans out batters.
Just no run support. What a pity that he can not get a win with such
a gem.
Thome got booed because of an error he made in 6th inning.
Also saw an ad that Duckworth knees down to a Thome jersey hoping
to get some run support. Very funny.
g******a
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Re: 终于发现Junior Spivey
First, last year his save rate is 85.7%, which seems not really perfect, but
he leads the major league in tough saves(6 tough saves, 13 saves for more than
3 outs, comparison: Hoffman with zero tough save). This is really something
special.
Second, BK can throw at least three pitches. A fastball, a cutter and a
slider. This is enough for a starter. RJ and CS normally only throw 2 pitches.
B*****R
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来自主题: Baseball版 - Re: alfonzo
although it was because of Aurilla's error, I don't like Worell's style
once he gave up a leadoff hit, he always pitch around the next batter, never
dare to throw strike zone , end up walking too many people untile it is
loaded, then he has nothing else to do except give up a fastball downin the
middle then everything is over.
that is what happen in Montreal and what is happening now
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 其实昨天的鱼与熊掌之战很好看
天才少年Josh Beckett终于发飙,
9IP, 2Hit, 1BB, 11K, 115Pitch Complete Game Shutout
开始看他狂飙快球我还有点替他担心,不过他的control确实没得说,
fastball, breaking ball, changeup,。。。看得我目瞪口呆
Zambrano其实也不错了,可惜面对Lowell犯了个错误,另外这个人有点
过于情绪化了。
这个系列打到现在,Cubs的打线算是超常发挥了,另外他们的运气也好一点,
不过Marlins很有韧性,如果他们的先发投手能挺住,大翻盘也不是没有可能。
当然Cubs的机会大的多,Prior加Wood,就是有一个被打爆(可能性<50%),还
有另一个呢,而且他们似乎很善于在Wrighly Field打往家跑。
期待明天的比赛。。。
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 答案 Re: 出个题
不敢
这种CHANGEUP说白了就是在出球刹那手指摩擦使球上旋飞离,
一般人中指无名指指肚摩擦就足够,也会达到尾旋的效果.
但是,CHANGEUP要诀是SPEED,在HITTER眼中看上去和FASTBALL一样的出球DELIVERY,
速度要慢得越多越好.
大联盟投手可以练到用中指无名指的第二指节发力摩擦出球,而不是指肚,
这样的球速更慢.
你们拿个球比划比划就明白了.
小联盟的还达不到这一点.
就酱紫

大作
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 投手主要球种的中文翻译:
fastball: 快球,速球,直球
breaking ball: 变化球
changeup: 变速球
curve ball: 曲线球
slider: 滑球
knuckleball: 蝴蝶球
two-seamer: 二缝线速球
four-seamer: 四缝线速球
cutter: 削角球
sinker: 伸卡球,下坠球
shooter: 喷射球
fork ball: 指叉球
splitter: 指叉球,分指速球
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来自主题: Baseball版 - My Very Very Early Predictions (22)
dunn is the backup qb in texas. But choose baseball..
He is OK guys although the swing definitely improvement.
our 3 catcher last year really bring some offense though defensively just
average.
the new bullpen guys coming in are really good. but david weathers is the
cincy guys couple of years ago. not a new guy bring in. hoho
with a small park we have, it's really difficult to keep the ball in the
park.
that's why the groundout guy Arroyo can survive and fastball guys won't .
Now we bring anoth
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来自主题: Baseball版 - eddy的draft自我评价
前几轮的基本原则是先抢传统上power and BA比较弱的内野位置,ss, c, and 2b, 我多
一个别人就少一个,of and 1b 普遍火力强,厚度比较好,决定赌博一下后几轮再挑。
第一轮:chase Utley, 其实是想抢一条的,被人接护了。
第二轮:joe mauer, 打击率象去年那么高不现实,.300还是有希望的。
第三轮:michael young, 希望hank blalock能够苏醒过来,游骑兵需要得很多份才能在
alw出头。其实是想抢jermin dye或者vernon wells, 早早的就是别人的baby了。
第四轮:jered weaver, fastball/changup pitcher,属于我比较喜欢的类型,希望没
搞错。
第五轮:adam dunn, 其实很不愿意选他,BA 太低,SO无数(>160!!!!),问题是后面的
thome, chipper jones, todd helton都在走下坡路,dunn好歹还有3-40个longball, r
eds的主场是mlb数得着的hitter's park.
第六轮:justin verla
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 投球教程 Splitfinger Fastball
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 投球教程 4-seam Fastball
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来自主题: Baseball版 - 投球教程 2-Seam Fastball
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