t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 1 sounds like I need to increase my leg strength, too many to work on to
improve tennis |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 2 I am sure it is impossible for 100m. Check out all the sprint athletes. No
matter male or female, they all are muscular!
All the tennis players, even nadal, can't be as muscular as the 100m runners.
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h*********r 发帖数: 10182 | 3 Those are all legends. No reliable source.
If she started training at young age as a runner, I would say she is more
likely a 800 meter runner.
be
represent
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h*********r 发帖数: 10182 | 4 that tread in TW is not more reliable than mitbbs discussion.
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差远了。当年乔丹转行棒球,他还是从小就练过的,也只能在minor league混。
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f*****n 发帖数: 18176 | 5 i read this from a chinese news paper about 20+ years ago. |
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w*********8 发帖数: 3339 | 6 估计不管蓝的还是绿的。。都很难有graf 88年那样的辉煌了。。。 |
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m*d 发帖数: 7658 | 7 可惜塞莱斯被捅了一刀,要不然graf也没这么牛掰 |
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w*********8 发帖数: 3339 | 8
哈哈。。。有这个可能。。。roger在这方面做得很好,当然mirka也配合得
很默契。。。。这样roger有百分百的精力打球。。。阿光大叔当年就是娶了爱出风头
的小丝,一落千丈。。后来遇到graf,换来第二春啊。。。看来老婆或者gf的作用还是
很重要滴哈。。。8过,穆雷看上去有个很强势的老妈。。。
找个老婆说不定会有效果。。。 |
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S***e 发帖数: 4426 | 9 对。没有roger,nadal就是群雄割据中的一霸。没有nadal,roger才是所向披靡。
因为是nadal克roger,而不是相反。
其实sampras的那一代才是没有roger的一代。
没有roger,nadal就是当代的sampras。
没有nadal,roger会完全统治atp,达到graf在女子网坛的成就。 |
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w*********8 发帖数: 3339 | 10 当年seles的出现着实让graf郁闷得不行。。。。要是木有豆子,ff的满贯数那是飙升
。。。。
不过,有豆奶的网球才好看哇。。。 |
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S***e 发帖数: 4426 | 11 对啊,所以说graf时代的女网就是如今没有nadal的atp。 |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 12 graf女goat的地位总是让人觉得有点不实,因为她球迷给塞莱斯的一刀。当然这不是她
的错,不过她是客观受益者。好像那一刀之前她被塞莱斯打的不行了,然后他球迷受不
了了就行凶,从此塞莱斯就完蛋了。哪位资深球迷给考古一下? |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 13 Ok, 偶理解有误。那照这么说,双反也长期占据top 1几十年了。
单反在以前绝非仅仅是适合top 1选手的技术,而是普遍的流行于all top 100.
光说graphite时代,McEnroe后期/Lendl/Edberg/Becker时代,著名双反可能
就只有Wilander。甚至女选手也都是什么Graf/Sabatini的。
在老桑时代,也基本是半壁江山。
到了老费时代,还剩多少呢? |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 14 It's common among pros. Graf used slices to break down most female
pro's DHBH. |
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 16 Graf's BH is the best text book for WSN/V. It isn't effective in Pro world
any more. But very good for us. Consistent and Offense. |
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g*y 发帖数: 2354 | 17 这段很搞笑:
Clay or grass
She'll flay your ass
And when she hits that topspin second serve
I think I know the meaning of love
这段很让辛吉斯后背起凉意:
But now, a shadow in the distance
A girl with ponytails
Sixteen and full of hunger
The end of Steffi's trail
I can't wait for her defeat
I fetch a knife and take my seed |
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m*****r 发帖数: 3822 | 19 graf is from east or west ?
I think eastern germany used lots of drugs... |
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d****t 发帖数: 1284 | 20 it's allowed. actually, i think Graf used to do it. |
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O*********r 发帖数: 1835 | 21 不会吧。李娜是在这山中无老虎的女网年代勉强出半个头。早十五年有Graf,早五年有
小威。现在没人了,还有 Clijster 顶半边天,后面有小将卧姿等。李娜又年纪大了些
,今年澳网可能就是最后的辉煌了。 |
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c****h 发帖数: 590 | 22 zan "如果能忍受受虐式的训练,我肯定支持"
I think Agassi and Graf were thinking about the same thing when they had
their first kid :)
If you have a girl, then it'll be much easier to get a tennis scholarship if
you start her early on tennis. It can save you $$$ for college down the
road with the rate tuition increases, which will mean earlier retirement for
you and your LD. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 23 因为够不着。比如n多双反高手mm被Graf slice而死。。。 |
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M********t 发帖数: 588 | 24 lz表示自己也喜欢莎娃呀...
她的成绩在所有world no.1里的确不算水的,她从伤病里恢复的努力也的确是有目共睹。
可是如果这次拿下法网,放到career grand slam级别里比起graf,williams之类的那她
的成绩就
还是差了一个量级呢吧.. |
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p**********c 发帖数: 433 | 25 Graf is very happy for Lisicki. Why does she care about Li? |
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m*****r 发帖数: 3822 | 27 开始fan李司机,天赋异禀,长相中上,笑容甜美。
如果没有大的伤病,解决好情绪问题又一个graf。感觉她落后的时候还是很敢打的,
领先了反而紧张,还是年轻经验不足,不过应该容易解决。
老李拿法网确实很赚,和阿嘿一样,以后的机会不多了。 |
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C******s 发帖数: 813 | 28 Graf
多谢版大信任,诸位抬举,废话不说,发那啥天罡之数。
光Re没有,须得举出大满贯单打冠军一员方可。
前者支持的Q,t,b,d,u,A,s诸位另有小小谢礼,不成敬意。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 29 Short slice that you have to run forward to reach.
Graf used this to kill a whole bunch of DHBH's. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 30 That basically means there was either a little bit of luck
involved, or Graf was having some mental toughness issue.
Another example is Becker vs Edberg. Becker is 25-10 against
Edberg. However, in GS finals, he is 1-2. Some people may think
Edberg is the better in the duet; I don't think so. |
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r******g 发帖数: 3849 | 31 这肯定不对。满贯对决里光我知道的graf就至少赢过三次。温网两次,法网一次。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 32 两个最多GS的女选手都是单反,Court 24个,Graf 22个。
纳婆,单反,并列第三,18个。 |
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 33 If you watched the finals of those grand slam matches, you would agree Seles
totally overpowered Graf.
They are like Serena W. playing with some kids... |
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 34 比分上看不出来那种效果。。。因为Steffi是稳定型的
overpower的意思是说seles占据了完全的场上主动,而且平均球速比对手快了一大截。
。。
满贯,连续3年拿下年终总决赛,是何等的辉煌! 风头绝对压倒Graf. |
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m*****o 发帖数: 2578 | 37 就小薇的主动失误,根本没戏啊
graf has no chance |
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r******g 发帖数: 3849 | 38 虽然喜欢graf, 但巅峰时期的小薇是绝对无敌的。 |
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m*r 发帖数: 37612 | 39 那个时候的网球哪里有现在这么激烈?
所以说巅峰时刻...graf用那个土牌子,哪里打的过现在的碳纤维? |
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r******g 发帖数: 3849 | 40 小薇但凡有graf的注意力,现在应该25个以上了。 |
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d******i 发帖数: 4222 | 41 nod。09年年终nadal一场总决赛不胜的时候,版上论调不出意外nadal会掉出前十,
奶牛有望挑战graf 的22个gs 记录。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 42 请对比Henin, Bartoli, Graf和Serena. |
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h*******s 发帖数: 8454 | 43 你这挑出来的还真是奇形怪状呢,不过你把henin和graf都挖出来了也算侧面证明了我
的观点了吧哈哈哈 |
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g*y 发帖数: 2354 | 44 是2009年赢小威那次,我记得那次和wangniu聊天是四月初。
At the 2009 Sony Ericsson Open in Key Biscayne, Florida, Azarenka was seeded
11th. She defeated world no. 1 and defending champion Serena Williams in
the final, 6–3, 6–1. This was Azarenka's first Tier I or Premier Mandatory
event title. Azarenka also became the sixth teenage female singles champion
in the history of this tournament, with the others being Steffi Graf,
Monica Seles, Martina Hingis, Venus Williams, and Gabriela Sabatini. |
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f******g 发帖数: 13917 | 45 Graf,纳婆,老金?
还有谁,大家来排排自己的top 10吧 |
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f******g 发帖数: 13917 | 46 现在剩下5男5女了:
5 women left - King, Court, Evert, Navratilova, Graf
and 5 men - Nadal, Borg, Sampras, Laver, Federer |
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i*********r 发帖数: 5101 | 47 10, Nadal
9, King
8, Evert
7, Borg
6, Navratilova
5, Court
4, Graf
3, Laver
2, Sampras
1, Federer
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f******g 发帖数: 13917 | 48 top 10 出来了。
10 - Billie Jean King, USA
9 - Chris Evert, USA
8 - Margaret Court, AUS
7 - Bjorn Borg, SWE
6 - Rafael Nadal, ESP
5 - Pete Sampras, USA
4 - Martina Navratilova, USA
3 - Steffi Graf, GER
2 - Rod Laver, AUS
1 - Roger Federer, SUI |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 49 Graf's slice looks ugly compared to Federer's. But her slice is very
effective in woman's game. There are variation of slice motions. As long as
it keeps balls low and skids forward, it's good slice. |
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 50 No.
Graf's slice is nice and smooth. Very pretty. And it is a better slice model
for wsn to copy. Roger's slice is too good to copy.
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