r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 1 Sounds like personal prefernce on which one is pretty. If you can copy Roger
's bh slice, you are at least 5.5 -6.0 player. For me, it is toooo hard. I
tried couple of years and it never works for me.
I use bh eastern for slice since day 1 and I feel more comfortable using it.
Graf's slice is old school and easy to copy. Just check with your local
pros, you will find they mostly teach that style.
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 2 那就是你和我对进攻性的定义不同了。
我所说的进攻性就是要WINNER或者要对方forced error的。或者至少要让对方出短球,
下一拍结束战斗。
进攻性削球需要速度旋转兼具,这种球反正我是非常容易打下网或者飘出界的。
当年STEFFI GRAF的反手削球算是一绝了,现在这种打法已经绝迹了。 |
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j*******e 发帖数: 1058 | 3 亲,你这逻辑太狗血了阿。。。这就是体育运动阿。能不能有点专业的体育精神?技不
如人,就说什么我打之前的比赛拼多了。这逻辑真是让人笑掉大牙。
那Steffi Graf 88年四大满贯都拿下来,史上唯一,这个也是她这个德国女人搞政治来
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r*********e 发帖数: 71 | 5 Steffi Graf, 1999 French Open, #1 - Martina Hingis, #2 Davenport, #3 Seles.
Hope I remember it correctly. |
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t******r 发帖数: 1036 | 6 她当年不出事,会是Seles同一时代的
Graf也未必拿的了22个,Hingis想成名也会晚一些。
上了 |
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R*****n 发帖数: 610 | 8 There is a lot of Chemistry on the court!
One time, i played a mixed double 9.0 with a 5.0 lady. She is tall and fit
just like Graf. But we lost badly w/o any chemistry..:(
I guess her BF was watching so of course. haha.. |
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A**4 发帖数: 2165 | 9 Graf is 1.75. Ignorance is not an issue, showing it is. |
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s**e 发帖数: 1834 | 10 真心为她高兴。确实是,没了海宁,女网观赏性太差了。
顺便重贴一个以前别人发过的海宁的访谈,不错。
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2012-06-07/2012
Justine Henin: I was like a machine, and I regret it
Thursday, June 7, 2012
By Benjamin Adler
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Justine, what is your biggest fear?
Being abandoned. I’m afraid of being alone, like most people I guess. But I
’m doing everything I can to make sure that doesn’t happen (smiles).
Otherwise I don’t have any phobias, really, no specific fears to speak of.
What is the first dream you mad... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 12 但是pro们遇到Graf,就成了3.5见到4.5了。。。 |
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c*****s 发帖数: 2146 | 13 My friend,我的前提是”有Seles在“ Seles赢得法网是在1990年,才16岁。被扎是在
1993年初。这期间好像Graf的战绩不怎么样。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 14 你去问问Graf. 她用85拍面的18x20. 现在还是。 |
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b******o 发帖数: 211 | 15 http://tennis.si.com/2012/10/04/roger-federer-death-threat-shan
Roger Federer is in China for next week’s Shanghai Masters. According to
reports from China, Federer received the following death threat from an
anonymous blogger on a popular Chinese website, prompting tournament
officials to contact police and increase security for the Swiss No. 1 and
the other players at the event:
“On October 6, I plan to assassinate Federer for the purpose of tennis
extermination,” read the message, posted ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****n 发帖数: 18176 | 17 doesn't. Matter.
who was graf's coach? |
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 19 山羊:
娃要生在八月8到八月12
红土王:
娃要生在六月3到六月14
证据:
August 8, Federer, 17 Grand Slams
August 9, Rod Laver, 11 Grand Slams
August 12 , Pete Sampras, 14 Grand Slams
June 3, Rafael Nadal, 12 Grand Slams
June 6, Bjon Borg, 12 Grand Slams
June 14, Steffi Graf, 22 Grand Slams |
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a*******e 发帖数: 12169 | 20 http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2013-06-25/2013062
To the loud approval of a large contingent of her followers on Court 12,
China’s Li Na cruised into the second round of the Ladies’ Singles by
defeating Michaella Krajicek, the would-be comeback kid from Holland, in a
match that was more closely contested than the 6-1, 6-1 scoreline would
indicate.
This might be termed the Battle of the Wounded Knees, since both players
have spent much time out of action with knee problems. Li, the ... 阅读全帖 |
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B**********r 发帖数: 7517 | 21 你说的是90年代的打法吗?看看96年和Graf的温网半决赛更好。 |
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w*****g 发帖数: 615 | 22 Steffi Graf's backhand slice? |
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 23 纽约时报:前无古人的李娜
2014-09-22 07:56:23 纽约时报
32岁退役的李娜是首位赢得大满贯单打冠军的亚洲网球选手。
尽管运动天赋非凡,在个人生活中也做出了极大的牺牲,但李娜仍是属于大器晚成
的网球运动员。这是她的退役让人感觉实在太早的原因之一,然而,这绝非唯一的原因。
在32岁零6个月的时候,李娜宣布因膝伤退役。她已经比当代许多最优秀的女子网
球选手坚持的时间更长了,比如莫妮卡·塞莱斯(Monica Seles)、施特菲·格拉芙(
Steffi Graf)、阿梅莉·毛瑞斯莫(Amélie Mauresmo)、金姆·克里斯特尔斯(Kim
Clijsters)和贾斯汀·海宁(Justine Henin)。
不过,到达巅峰之前,李娜经过了很长时间才练就了曾经时好时坏的正手球、巩固
了自己的信心,并且找到了东西方技艺的最佳组合。
老实说,李娜从未在大赛的压力下展现出十足的信心。这就是她的风格。火力全开
的时候,她能强势覆盖球场的每个角落,用强健的双腿和敏捷的双臂打出令人惊叹的低
平球。但就连在这个时候,也不能排除她突然丧失注意力或运势急转直下的可能性。
李娜的比赛充满悬... 阅读全帖 |
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U******u 发帖数: 5829 | 24 纽约时报:前无古人的李娜
2014-09-22 07:56:23 纽约时报
32岁退役的李娜是首位赢得大满贯单打冠军的亚洲网球选手。
尽管运动天赋非凡,在个人生活中也做出了极大的牺牲,但李娜仍是属于大器晚成
的网球运动员。这是她的退役让人感觉实在太早的原因之一,然而,这绝非唯一的原因。
在32岁零6个月的时候,李娜宣布因膝伤退役。她已经比当代许多最优秀的女子网
球选手坚持的时间更长了,比如莫妮卡·塞莱斯(Monica Seles)、施特菲·格拉芙(
Steffi Graf)、阿梅莉·毛瑞斯莫(Amélie Mauresmo)、金姆·克里斯特尔斯(Kim
Clijsters)和贾斯汀·海宁(Justine Henin)。
不过,到达巅峰之前,李娜经过了很长时间才练就了曾经时好时坏的正手球、巩固
了自己的信心,并且找到了东西方技艺的最佳组合。
老实说,李娜从未在大赛的压力下展现出十足的信心。这就是她的风格。火力全开
的时候,她能强势覆盖球场的每个角落,用强健的双腿和敏捷的双臂打出令人惊叹的低
平球。但就连在这个时候,也不能排除她突然丧失注意力或运势急转直下的可能性。
李娜的比赛充满悬... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 25 Graf 94年转成Wilson后就再也不用Dunlop MAX 200G了。
偶列的都是最近的事情。早期Dunlop可是比Wilson更成功的最NB牌子。 |
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d**n 发帖数: 559 | 26 What?
-Steffi Graf
Australian Open (1988, 1989, 1990, 1994)
French Open (1987, 1988, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1999)
Wimbledon (1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996)
US Open (1988, 1989, 1993, 1995, 1996) |
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D*X 发帖数: 364 | 28
Aggasi.
what do u mean? shitting around? please read and specify your post.
Only Steffi Graf in 1988? how about Margaret Court in 1970? She was also a
professional player. and Margaret Court in 1953? |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 29 偶的意思就是Graf, Vinci, F. Lopez这些反手主要靠削的选手只可能是单反。 |
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i******0 发帖数: 609 | 31 This is like comparing apple to orange.
Would you consider Graf more successful than Federer? (note that I am not
arguing on this one way or the other) |
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i******0 发帖数: 609 | 32 This is like comparing apple to orange.
Would you consider Graf more successful than Federer? (note that I am not
arguing on this one way or the other) |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 33 差的很远。Graf给过人21:0,职业生涯从未输过。 |
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m******n 发帖数: 15691 | 34 紫薇列娃? 20:1, 有个18:0, 谁比她还惨啊,呵呵
差的很远。Graf给过人21:0,职业生涯从未输过。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 发现Graf这个也不怎么样。纳婆29连胜过Pam Shriver. |
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c*****n 发帖数: 14445 | 36 哈哈
我反手就爱打这种单反的削球
但没那么牛
打不出快低的削球到网前
但一般都能回过去
我因为强力的双反实在打不出来
所以刻意学的Steffi Graf的反手削球
效果不错
对方不好借力
使劲抽也容易失误 |
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c*****n 发帖数: 14445 | 37 看到了那个帖子里一些很扯淡的说法,什么巅峰期,不同场地,世界第一,大师杯啥的
,实在看不下去了!!!
谁是GOAT,非常简单,必须具备两个条件:
1.大满贯数量最多或者几乎最多
2.H2H(总体H2H或大满贯H2H)上没有克星
所以老费17个大满贯(几乎不可能增加了,这次温网很可能是他最后机会了),确实是
最多的,豆子还要追赶3个是完全有可能的。但是老费的死穴就是有一个压倒性的克星
:纳豆。不论是总体H2H或大满贯H2H,实在太惨。
奶粉愿意承认也好,不愿意承认也好,唯一两个GOAT的候选人都不合格。老费大满贯数
量稍多,但克星让他抬不起头,这样的压倒性劣势还被人称为GOAT实在是可笑;纳豆还
有几年证明自己,大满贯H2H对任何人都没有劣势,但起码至今大满贯数不够。
那谁是合格的GOAT?Steffi Graf!
22个大满贯最多,除了塞莱斯遇刺前巅峰期的2,3年格拉夫不占优势外,总体大满贯还
是6-4领先。
至于咬文嚼字说GOAT有且只有一个的,实在是矬子里拔将军,自欺欺人而已。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 38 Graf has H2H advantage against anyone, with very few exceptions (like 0-1,
1-2). |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 39 问题是她对同龄人战绩并不太dominant, 比如43-37 Evert.
Graf对Sanchez是28-8,对Martinez 13-1. 对Seles 10-5. |
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B******a 发帖数: 601 | 40 你看看她90-93的战绩再下结论。她被刺伤时(93)才20岁。你再看看graf 93年后拿了
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W**T 发帖数: 221 | 41 呵呵, even though most of your analysis are pretty sound, which I duely
appreciate and respect, I just cannot help nitpicking here -- these two
lines of argument are utterly silly to me:
1. "He MAY become over dependent on slice..." so better not allow him to hit
slice... (I had similar situations with my kid - not in tennis but in
soccer, I just tell her what people think about the MAY-part, and let her go
ahead and try, and she understand the trade-offs perfectly, and she was
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l********g 发帖数: 677 | 42 也许是从 Graf 那儿学的?
不过,我们wsn要是有这样的切削,估计也能一战江湖了 |
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 44 Steffi Graf has SHBH winner from time to time... |
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 45 wiki上有这样的结论。
Williams is widely recognized by many tennis legends and commentators as the
greatest player of all time。
格拉芙只是母山羊。
Graf is regarded by many to be the greatest female tennis player of all time
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 46 反手削球也是种进攻的武器, 虽然alex这里很多还是以防守性质的削为主, 但他削的
够深, 基本neutralize/reset the point. 不少球, Henry 也只是回个过渡球再从新
setup 找机会得分。 Henry常和alex交手, 对他的球路都很熟了, 对于alex的削球,
他也没占太多便宜。 (该多上网, 得有 live or die by the volley 心态, 不过
henry也是求稳心态的counter, grinder打法为主, even through he's been a lot
more aggressive here)
其实反手也不一定一定要用发力进攻才能算高水平。 我身边的一个solid 5.0他反手就
是以削为主。 再看看pro中的 Feliciano Lopez, 反手不也是以削为主? 过去的
Steffi Graf 呢? 如果正手是你的进攻武器, 反手就该以keep the ball in play 为
主来让正手有机会进攻,在这个基础上,反手再是靠调动变化来给正手创造进攻机会。
你分析的不错, alex 这里打法的确很保守。 不... 阅读全帖 |
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z***e 发帖数: 1757 | 47 正好今天看到WSJ这篇文章
http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-your-child-shouldnt-be-a-tennis
Why Your Child Shouldn’t Be a Tennis Prodigy
French Open champion Stan Wawrinka has taught the tennis world a few lessons
. The world’s most dominant players can be beaten in big matches. A one-
handed backhand holds up just fine against a two-handed backhand. A pro can
reach his prime at 30, rather than in his mid 20s.
And then there is the most refreshing Wawrinka lesson of all: It is OK to
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F*****4 发帖数: 149 | 48 Go Serena !!
希望她多拿几个大满贯追上Graf.
小美女打的也不错,赏心悦目。 I feel they brought out the best of each other'
s game.
Serena打的也比平时打别人level高不少。很精彩的比赛! |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 49 女山羊不是Graf,而是纳婆。小威差的还有点远。在可预见的将来只能是有争议的
女山羊。
纳婆比较弱的单打方面,连续6个GS过。 |
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g****l 发帖数: 130 | 50 也不是没有可能哦
女山羊不是Graf,而是纳婆。小威差的还有点远。在可预见的将来只能是有争议的女山
羊。纳婆比较弱的单打方面,连续6个GS过。 |
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