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S*********L
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你先把什么是基督教内部的宗派什么是基督教以外的其他信仰弄明白再来瞎嚷嚷吧。
特别读读这段:
But some of you are sitting there and saying, well, wait a second, is that just Methodists saying that the Presbyterians can go to heaven and the Episcopalians just saying that the Lutherans can go to heaven — which might be significant, but isn’t quite the same thing as a Southern Baptist saying that a Muslim can go to heaven or a Catholic saying that a Jew can go to heaven.
然后再结合这段一起思考:
Again, an overwhelming majority of folks in these different re... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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有什么问题?正因为有你引的第一段的疑问,所以原文才进一步说明:
“So on our survey, we didn’t just stop with this one question. We asked a
follow-up, which I’ll admit was inspired by a similar question Pew has
asked in its research, that says to those who are of Christian faiths, do
you still hold that opinion even when those other religions are not
Christian?
Again, an overwhelming majority of folks in these different religious groups
agree that, yes, even if you’re not a Christian, you can still go to
heaven. And that include... 阅读全帖
E*****m
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http://www.control-z.com/czp/pgs/why_no_longer.html#reason02
The words used to define Christian Doctrine are representative of things
whose existence cannot be 'proved' outside of language
Instead of saying God, Heaven, and Hell, you could just as easily say Glavin
, Homatron, and Jyklumoo. Like God, Heaven, and Hell, the only way you can
know anything about Glavin, Homatron, and Jyklumoo is through word
association. But this isn't exactly true either. In all actuality, you don't
know anything a... 阅读全帖
l**********n
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于进天堂的问题
Vurtne提了一个好题目。
请看何为圣经启示的“天堂”。
一、基督徒的基本信仰是根据圣经。
圣经也是独一无二之真理的准则。然而,遍查整本圣经,『相信有天堂和地狱存在』并
不是基督教的基本信仰,充其量只能说是一种普遍存在的宗教观念。『天堂』的观念是
教会历史中,不纯正的传统所遗传下来的。在这许多的传统中,有些因着圣经真理的阐
明,已成了历史;例如炼狱、教皇无误论、赎罪券、敬拜古圣遗物之类。有些则仍存在
于基督徒的观念或实行里。例如教会中的阶级制度、耶诞节和復活节的庆祝等等。
论到人的归宿,根据圣经有暂时的和永远的两面。暂时的是指人在死后到那里去,那是
神学上所谓的『暂时停留的地方或状态』(intermediate state)。但是,神与人在生
命上的建造是永远的,这最终的归宿是探讨人在将来復活之后,在永世里终极的结局。
针对『人死后暂时的去处或状态』的认识,历史上有许多的分歧和演变:有乐园(
Paradise)、阴间(Hades)、地狱(Hell)、炼狱(Purgatory)、天堂(Heaven)等
等说法。例如『阴间』这个字,就普遍存在一个错误的观念,将『阴间』(Hades)和
『... 阅读全帖
W***q
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Commentary on Genesis Chapter 1 (4)
2. (1) A simple factual statement regarding God work as creator.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
a. God created: This summary statement will be detailed in the following
verses, but the Bible simply and straightforwardly declares the world did
not create itself or come about by chance. It was created by God, who, by
definition, is eternal and has always been.
i. “It is no accident that God is the subject of the first sentence
of the Bible, for this word domina... 阅读全帖
j*******7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Let it be Christmas everywhere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YBHZ5Y7ZI
ALAN JACKSON LYRICS
"Let It Be Christmas"
Let it be Christmas everywhere
In the hearts of all people
Both near and afar
Christmas everywhere
Feel the love of the season where ever you are
On the small country roads
Lined with green mistletoe
Big city streets where a thousand lights glow
Let it be Christmas everywhere
Let heavenly music fill the air
Let every heart sing
Let every bell ring
The story of hope and joy and peace
And let it be Christmas every... 阅读全帖
B**T
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 耶稣复活始末
Jesus’ First Resurrection Appearance:
Mark 16:14-15 - Jesus appears to Mary Magdalena but it’s not clear where (
in older endings of Mark, he didn’t appear at all)
Matthew 28:8-9 - Jesus first appears near his tomb
Luke 24:13-15 - Jesus first appears near Emmaus, several miles from
Jerusalem
John 20:13-14 - Jesus first appears at his tomb
Jesus Ascends to Heaven:
Mark 16:14-19 - Jesus ascends while he and his disciples are seated at a
table in or near Jerusalem
Luke 24:50-51 - Jesus ascends outi... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 關於「李宣傳“沒有天堂”」的指控
第五篇 關於「李宣傳“沒有天堂”」的指控
《為》書第六篇,作者批評李「宣傳“沒有天堂”的謬論」,「來推翻基督徒依據聖經
明文相信天堂存在的純正信仰」(95頁)。以下我們願意來探討,「天堂」究竟是不是
聖經中的「純正信仰」?
「天堂」一詞的由來
《為》書 81~82頁:
「李常受用什麼方法否認天堂的存在呢?第一,李在“天堂”這個名詞上做文章。他講
:「神不像今天墮落而走了樣子的基督教那樣注意天堂。在原文聖經裏有‘天’,但沒
有‘天堂’。在中文聖經裏,有兩處提到天堂,一處是希伯來九章二十四節,還有一處
是彼得前三章二十二節。這兩處的‘天堂’,原文都是‘天’。聖經裏有許多次提到‘
天’,我不知道繙譯中文聖經的人,為什麼特特把這兩處繙作天堂。天堂是佛教所用的
名詞。在聖經裏只有天,就是第三層天,乃是神現在的住處。“……按李常受這樣的說
法,“天堂”是佛教用詞。我們查閱《宗教辭典》,它對“天堂”這條辭目的解釋是:
“基督教教義之一。謂系上帝的在天居所。寶座前有眾天使侍立,與上帝同享永福。”
這部辭典沒有說“天堂”是佛教或其他宗教的用語。在這部辭典的“分類辭目索引”中
,查遍佛教的辭目,也查不出一... 阅读全帖
j*******7
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - Let it be Christmas everywhere (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: jmsma2007 (James), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Let it be Christmas everywhere
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 24 12:29:00 2013, 美东)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YBHZ5Y7ZI
ALAN JACKSON LYRICS
"Let It Be Christmas"
Let it be Christmas everywhere
In the hearts of all people
Both near and afar
Christmas everywhere
Feel the love of the season where ever you are
On the small country roads
Lined with green mistletoe
Big city streets where a thousand lights glow
Let it be Christ... 阅读全帖
d**********u
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pianxinming (偏信命-给老板致敬) 于 (Fri Apr 10 05:57:48 2009) 提到:
请问, 基本薪酬。
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Landau (heaven) 于 (Fri Apr 10 20:43:05 2009) 提到:
名义工资不高. 实际福利还可以. 关键还要看机遇,比如什么时候学校获得一些钱或者
土地,盖了房子, 以前那些没有房子的青年教职工可能就会给轮上.
基本上可以这样说, 如果你作为北大教师,一时吃了亏,最后肯定还是会弥补你的.一些
老教授,年轻的时候工资很低, 现在快退休了,经常会获得一些什么奖励, 也算是一种弥
补.
名义工资,各个学院, 新体制下的和旧体制下的很不一样. 一般院系的副教授基本薪酬(不包括论文奖励等)大概各种加起来一年略少于10万吧. 一般的新体制下的特聘研究员都有十几万到20万.
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Optimus (die another day) 于 (Wed Apr 21 15:18:00 2010, 美东) 提到:
投诉人(ID):
Optimus
投诉对象及职务(限版主):
oregongirl
投诉标题:
投诉pets板主oregongirl包庇版副Paladino滥用职权,随意封人
(我向oregongirl在投诉板和信件投诉Paladino,没有回应)
投诉目标(更改处理决定/更改板规/弹劾板主...):
1. 封禁id: Bogart 因其随意在版上公布私人信件两次
2. 封禁id: Bogart, Pangwaiwai 因其在pets版屡次“五毛”攻击
3. 解封id: Optimus, 因误操作在版上发文自删后,被Paladino从垃圾堆捞出封禁
4. 版副paladino 为纵容部分id攻击, 不许自己反对id自由发言, 随意封人解封
公开道歉(paladino后来又在版面造谣毁谤我,不接受道歉了)
5. 弹劾版副Paladino, 因为版主oregongirl一直不理... 阅读全帖
S*********L
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圣约中的救赎之约 (著:亚历山德•派登 译:追求永生)

我建议这些关于救赎之约的观念,想法,以及要点,作为对神爱的概要,以便你们不管
是背十字架还是不背十字架,都可以有喜乐。
人所尽知,在那古老的时日,在神圣的三位一体中的位格之间,签署了一个最终的一致
同意的合约。在他们以无比智慧所订立的圣约中,约的一方是伟大而无限的天地之主,
约的另一方,是完全的神和完全的人,即天地之主确凿无疑永恒的继承者,耶稣基督。
他们用下面所描述的方式,形式,以及规定的各种效果缔结了这个圣约。
本圣约规定,耶稣自己是这个约的主体内容。这些内容包括对耶稣的约责要求:他必须
承担保证圣约实现的责任;他必须圆满履行所有律法的要求;他必须承受苦难成为赎罪
祭;他必须把神的儿女都引导归主;他必须使这些归于他的人良言善行得以完全;他必
须使他们在耶稣的完全里从恩典中得到恩典;他必须在天庭代表这些得救的男女成人和
孩童;他必须保证这些人没有一个失落;他必须把他们在末日全部复活;最后,他必须
把这些天父的孩子全部背负到天庭。
为此,圣约的另一方,神圣的天地之主,就对基督也承负不可违背的相应责任。这些责
任包括... 阅读全帖
j*******7
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来自主题: _BibleStudy版 - Let it be Christmas everywhere (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: jmsma2007 (James), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Let it be Christmas everywhere
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 24 12:29:00 2013, 美东)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YBHZ5Y7ZI
ALAN JACKSON LYRICS
"Let It Be Christmas"
Let it be Christmas everywhere
In the hearts of all people
Both near and afar
Christmas everywhere
Feel the love of the season where ever you are
On the small country roads
Lined with green mistletoe
Big city streets where a thousand lights glow
Let it be Christ... 阅读全帖
i***d
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第三天,要装车退房,九点半才收拾完上了lift。本来打算先去7th Heaven跟户外大牛
YH介绍从DC来的网友P兄见一面,然后去Whistler一边的harmony、symphony去玩玩儿。
结果一看晚了怕下午天气不好symphony去不了,就先坐p2p去Whistler,电话也打不通
只好放了P兄的鸽子,抱歉了!从Whistler的Roundhouse下到harmony的路比较难搞,打
算找到Rabbit Tracks或者G.S蓝道下去,却怎么也找不到标示。于是就沿着盘山路过去
,估计是Ratfink黑道,娃们下降太快,最后不得不下到一个绿道上,可能是Marmot,
小孩们的单板走了不少路。
上了harmony到顶,发现原来这是Little Whistler Peak小顶峰,而且四通八达,有
pika's traverse绿道回roundhouse,有burnt stew trail绿道转jeff's ode to joy蓝
道去symphony,还可以走后山the saddle蓝道下到Peak Express,从Peak还有一条下到
这里的雪道。我们全家走burnt stew... 阅读全帖
m*****0
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RollingStone The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time
《滚石》杂志评史上最伟大的500歌曲
NO.001~NO.025
001 - Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone (1965)
002 - The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction (1965)
003 - John Lennon - Imagine (1971)
004 - Marvin Gaye - What's Going On (1971)
005 - Aretha Franklin - Respect (1967)
006 - The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations (1966)
007 - Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode (1958)
008 - The Beatles - Hey Jude (1968)
009 - Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (1991)
010 - Ray Charles - What'd I Say (195... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 就问基督徒几个简单问题

这属于不认真读“圣经”的基。
第一节和第二节之间并没有一段时间。第一节是所谓“六日创世”的总纲,接下来的经
文是详细过程。看“圣经”:
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看上
面引用过的“出埃及记”经文的中英文对照:
出埃及记 20:11 因为六日之内,耶和华造天,地,海,和其中的万物,第七日便安息
,所以耶和华赐福与安息日,定为圣日。
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
出埃及记 31:17 这是我和以色列人永远的证据,因为六日之内耶和华造天地,第七日
便安息舒畅... 阅读全帖
t******n
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - [合集] 窦唯现状
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yunyunluo (云萝) 于 (Sun Sep 22 22:11:11 2013, 美东) 提到:
因为王菲离婚的事,我突然想八一八窦唯的现状,不过报道太少了,也只能瞎掰两句
看娱乐新闻,很难看到窦唯的八卦了,之前有人捕风捉影说他谈了个新的小女友,两人
骑自行车出游,猜测窦唯现在财产状况不好
窦唯状况好不好,还真说不清楚,从一些他的活动来看,确实是,从和王菲离婚后一直
在走下坡路,04年以后基本上没有出专辑了,也没有什么新歌出来,更多的是往电影音
乐方面走,偶尔还去酒吧驻唱,生活应该还不至于像一些八卦杂志说的那么穷困潦倒,
不过对于一个曾经红极一时的人来说,确实算是彻底的淡出人们视线,没落了。这窦唯
除了骂脏话发发脾气也没见报道有什么不良嗜好,即使没落了,还不至于没钱花没地方
住吃不饱饭。
说来,我觉得窦唯这人渣得挺无语的,应该说是太笨了,分不清什么是感情什么是责任
什么是生活,先是和姜昕谈恋爱,这段算是最纯最简单的爱恋了,感情在就在一起,感
情没了就分开,算是他所有感情里面最干脆的了,没有什... 阅读全帖
G****e
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - The Darker Side Of God
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such
blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look
at the volume of horrendous acts perfo... 阅读全帖
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http://www.glorypress.com/devotional/FaithAndLifeOneYearBook.asp?bid=1
坐在天上
经文: 「然而上帝既有丰富的怜悯,因祂爱我们的大爱,当我们死在过犯中的时候,便
叫我们与基督一同活过来。….祂又叫我们与基督耶稣一同复活,一同坐在天上。」(
弗二4~6)
「与基督耶稣一同坐在天上」──安安静静地坐着──是我们的权利,是我们
的本分。但是有几个人眞有这样的经历呢?有几个人眞想这是一件可能的事呢?
我们也许会想:恐怕在主日,或者灵程猛进的时候,偶然能有这样的经历;如
果每天随时都坐在天上,是不可能的事罢!但是我告诉你:主日能,周日也能,天天都
能!
一个安静的灵,对于外面的活动是非常有帮助的;反言之,没有一件东西,比
灵里的焦急挂虑,更妨碍属灵的能力和成功。
一位属灵的信徒有一次告诉我们:「知道怎样信靠,怎样安静,就是得到了一
切。」这句话是非常有意思的。我们如果知道这个,我们工作的方法就会大大改变了。
我们不会再不息地挣扎了;我们会安安静静地坐在主面前,让圣... 阅读全帖
G*******s
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来自主题: Belief版 - 摩门经证人
Is Mormonism Christian?:
A Comparison of Mormonism and Historic Christianity
Copyright ? 1999 Institute for Religious Research. All rights reserved.
Is Mormonism Christian? This may seem like a puzzling question to many Morm
ons as well as to some Christians. Mormons will note that they include the B
ible among the four books which they recognize as Scripture, and that belief
in Jesus Christ is central to their faith, as evidenced by their official n
ame, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day... 阅读全帖
G*******s
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来自主题: Belief版 - Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
by Matt Slick
There's a lot of discussion about Mormon beliefs. So, in order to make this
easy, I will list out what Mormonism actually teaches. These are not sensati
onalized, and inaccurate statements.
Following documentation from Mormon authors. Finally, please understand tha
t the Mormon Church uses Christian terms but has radically changed the meani
ngs of those terms. So, when it says that Mormons belief in the father the
son and the Holy Spirit, they ... 阅读全帖
G****e
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来自主题: Belief版 - The Darker Side Of God (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖
L****o
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来自主题: Poetry版 - 望山岗
望山岗
岗上青草草上露,
楚风悲绕无情树。
长天万里黄昏雨,
湿土如新人如故。
(2013.4.5)
Don't You Worry Child
by Swedish House Mafia
Songwriters: ANGELLO, STEVE / HEDFORS, AXEL CHRISTOFER / INGROSSO, SEBASTIAN
/ LINDSTROM, JOHN MARTIN / ZITRON, MICHEL HENRY ALLAN
[Verse 1]
There was a time, I used to look into my father's eyes
In a happy home, I was a king I had a gold throne
Those days are gone, now the memories are on the wall
I still hear the sounds from the places where I was born
[Chorus]
Up on the hill across the blue lak... 阅读全帖
E*****l
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【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: myelsa (夜光杯), 信区: Belief
标 题: 耶稣基督后期圣徒教会诗歌选段
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 26 12:26:19 2010, 美东)
耶稣基督后期圣徒教会聚会,在第一个阶段全体会众在一起的时候,每次都要唱诗,大
概三,四首,以下是选段。
2--The Spirit of God
The Spirit of God like a fire is burning!
The latter-day glory begins to come forth;
The visions and blessings of old are returning,
And angels are coming to visit the earth.
We'll sing and we'll shout with the armies of heaven,
Hosanna, hosanna to God and the Lamb!
Let glory to them in the highest be give... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: myelsa (夜光杯), 信区: Belief
标 题: 耶稣基督后期圣徒教会诗歌选段
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 26 12:26:19 2010, 美东)
耶稣基督后期圣徒教会聚会,在第一个阶段全体会众在一起的时候,每次都要唱诗,大
概三,四首,以下是选段。
2--The Spirit of God
The Spirit of God like a fire is burning!
The latter-day glory begins to come forth;
The visions and blessings of old are returning,
And angels are coming to visit the earth.
We'll sing and we'll shout with the armies of heaven,
Hosanna, hosanna to God and the Lamb!
Let glory to them in the highest be give... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - The Deliverance of Man
Bible Course - Christian Doctrine
Lesson 3
The Deliverance of Man
Lord's Day 5-7
The Deliverance of Man
Lord's Days 5 through 31 form the second part of the catechism. It consists
of questions 12 through 85, dealing with the deliverance from sin and misery
. From this aspect the first question is: Is there no way…?
Lord's Day 5
Q. 12. Since then, by the righteous judgment of God, we deserve temporal and
eternal punishment, is there no way by which we may escape that punishment,
and be again rece... 阅读全帖
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 威斯敏斯德信条 第一章 论圣经
Chapter 1
Of the Holy Scripture
1. Although the light of nature, and the works of creation and
providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of
God, as to leave men unexcusable;
a
yet are they not sufficient to give
that knowledge of God, and of his will, which is necessary unto
salvation.
b
Therefore it pleased the Lord, at sundry times, and in
divers manners, to reveal himself, and to declare that his will unto his
a. Rom. 2:14–15. For when the Gentiles, which have not the la... 阅读全帖
C****i
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CHAPTER IV
Of Creation
I. It pleased God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,[86] for the manifestation
of the glory of his eternal power, wisdom, and goodness,[87] in the beginni
ng, to create, or make of nothing, the world, and all things therein whether
visible or invisible, in the space of six days; and all very good.[88]
II. After God had made all other creatures, he created man, male and female,
[89] with reasonable and immortal souls,[90] endued with knowledge, righteou
sness, and true holine... 阅读全帖
C****i
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CHAPTER XXII
Of Lawful Oaths and Vows
I. A lawful oath is a part of religious worship,[443] wherein, upon just occ
asion, the person swearing solemnly calleth God to witness what he asserteth
, or promiseth, and to judge him according to the truth or falsehood of what
he sweareth.[444]
II. The name of God only is that by which men ought to swear, and therein it
is to be used with all holy fear and reverence.[445] Therefore, to swear va
inly, or rashly, by that glorious and dreadful Name; or, to ... 阅读全帖
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Blinded By Tradition:
An Open Letter to Dave Hunt
Regarding His Newly Published Attack Upon the Reformation, What Love Is This
? Calvinism's Misrepresentation of God
James White
Updated 5/16/02, see bottom of file
Dear Dave,
In the period of time since I finally received my own copy of your book (you
may recall I scanned through it while standing at your table in St. Louis a
t the PFO Conference) I have gone through a number of different emotions. A
t first I was just going to do one Dividing ... 阅读全帖
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 30章 论教会的劝惩
CHAPTER XXX
Of Church Censures
I. The Lord Jesus, as King and Head of his church, hath therein appointed a
government, in the hand of church officers, distinct from the civil magistra
te.[556]
II. To these officers the keys of the kingdom of heaven are committed; by vi
rtue whereof, they have power, respectively, to retain, and remit sins; to s
hut that kingdom against the impenitent, both by the Word, and censures; and
to open it unto penitent sinners, by the ministry of the gospel; and by abs
... 阅读全帖
C****i
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CHAPTER XXXII
Of the State of Men after Death, and of the Resurrection of the Dead
I. The bodies of men, after death, return to dust, and see corruption:[566]
but their souls, which neither die nor sleep, having an immortal subsistence
, immediately return to God who gave them:[567] the souls of the righteous,
being then made perfect in holiness, are received into the highest heavens,
where they behold the face of God, in light and glory, waiting for the full
redemption of their bodies.[568] And... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: Godwithus (神与我们同在), 信区: Belief
标 题: Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 18 21:54:10 2011, 美东)
Mormon Beliefs, are they Christian?
by Matt Slick
There's a lot of discussion about Mormon beliefs. So, in order to make this
easy, I will list out what Mormonism actually teaches. These are not sensati
onalized, and inaccurate statements.
Following documentation from Mormon authors. Finally, please understand tha
t the Mormon Church uses Christian t... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 日月被造和植物被造的先后
我们来看一看着第一节“经文”的中英文:
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看上
面引用过的“出埃及记”经文的中英文对照:
出埃及记 20:11 因为六日之内,耶和华造天,地,海,和其中的万物,第七日便安息
,所以耶和华赐福与安息日,定为圣日。
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
出埃及记 31:17 这是我和以色列人永远的证据,因为六日之内耶和华造天地,第七日
便安息舒畅。
It will be a sign between me and the Israelites... 阅读全帖
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你大概不敢把那個圖貼出來,上面列的第一個『基督教宗派』就是摩門。
大家來瞎嚷嚷吧!

just Methodists saying that the Presbyterians can go to heaven and the
Episcopalians just saying that the Lutherans can go to heaven — which might
be significant, but isn’t quite the same thing as a Southern Baptist
saying that a Muslim can go to heaven or a Catholic saying that a Jew can go
to heaven.
groups agree that, yes, even if you’re not a Christian, you can still go to
heaven. And that includes a majority — 54 percent — of evangelical
Protestant... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于神/基督教,他们这么说
Isaac Asimov
“I don't believe in an afterlife, so I don't have to spend my whole life
fearing hell, or fearing heaven even more. For whatever the tortures of hell
, I think the boredom of heaven would be even worse.”
“To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and
it remains premature today”
“If I am right, then [religious fundamentalists] will not go to Heaven,
because there is no Heaven. If THEY are right, then they will not go to
Heaven, because they are hypocrites.”... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - bad news and good news
First the bad news.
Because we have sinned we are born separated from God. Without intervention
, we are ineligible for Heaven. This applies to the entire human race. You
are not alone.
Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Romans 3:10 says, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
Romans 6:23a "For the wages of sin is death;"
Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and m
urderers, and whoremongers, and sor... 阅读全帖
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丢人现眼的狡辩。
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看上
面引用过的“出埃及记”经文的中英文对照:
出埃及记 20:11 因为六日之内,耶和华造天,地,海,和其中的万物,第七日便安息
,所以耶和华赐福与安息日,定为圣日。
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
出埃及记 31:17 这是我和以色列人永远的证据,因为六日之内耶和华造天地,第七日
便安息舒畅。
It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, ... 阅读全帖
z********o
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一些弱智的治学不严谨的基们说基们的主子是物质的源头。这个说法不符合“圣经”。
看“圣经”开头的几节:
1 起初神创造天地。
2 地是空虚混沌。渊面黑暗。神的灵运行在水面上。
3 神说,要有光,就有了光。
4 神看光是好的,就把光暗分开了。
5 神称光为昼,称暗为夜。有晚上,有早晨,这是头一日。
这里清楚看出:所谓“六日创世”之前就有水了。由此可见基们的主子并非物质的源头。
当然,有些基们可能会说,第一节“起初神创造天地”就创造了“水”啊。这个说法也
不符合“圣经”。看“圣经”:
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看“
出埃及记”经文的中英文对照:
出埃及记 20:11 因为六日之内,耶和华造天,地,海,和其中的万物,第七日便安息
,所以耶和华赐福与安息日,定为圣日。
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, ... 阅读全帖
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That
反驳过了!!!!你读不读帖啊?睁大你的基眼看清楚了:
当然,有些基们可能会说,第一节“起初神创造天地”就创造了“水”啊。这个说法也
不符合“圣经”。看“圣经”:
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看“
出埃及记”经文的中英文对照:
出埃及记 20:11 因为六日之内,耶和华造天,地,海,和其中的万物,第七日便安息
,所以耶和华赐福与安息日,定为圣日。
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
出埃及记 31:17 这是我和以色列人永远的证据,因为六日之内耶和华造... 阅读全帖
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没有PA了。你再看看:
当然,有些基们可能会说,第一节“起初神创造天地”就创造了“水”啊。这个说法也
不符合“圣经”。看“圣经”:
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看“
出埃及记”经文的中英文对照:
出埃及记 20:11 因为六日之内,耶和华造天,地,海,和其中的万物,第七日便安息
,所以耶和华赐福与安息日,定为圣日。
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
出埃及记 31:17 这是我和以色列人永远的证据,因为六日之内耶和华造天地,第七日
便安息舒畅。
It wil... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [合集] 关于基督教和宗教信仰自由
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smy (LZ) 于 (Tue Aug 9 16:23:59 2011, 美东) 提到:
听一个朋友说,美国大陆第一批从英国来的是清教徒乘坐五月花。他们当初就是为了要
逃避在英国的宗教迫害,所以漂洋过海。后来美国建国时,这也是国父们制定美国宪法
有宗教信仰自由和言论自由的原因之一。
我想知道的是,根据基督教的教义,基督教支持宗教信仰自由和言论自由么?有人说是
,有人说不是。这里的基督徒们有共识么?
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Eloihim (真神) 于 (Tue Aug 9 16:32:52 2011, 美东) 提到:
清教徒(其實就是加爾文派)到了美洲就轉身迫害其他教派。
我記得他們在麻州制定的法律就是不信他們教派的就吊死。
建國是七八代之後的事情了。

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leonana (leonany) 于 (Tue Aug 9 16:47:12 201... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 伯多祿的磐石地位
第一篇 一个基要派出身的,圣公会司铎转到天主教的神父写的
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/peter%E2%80%99s-autho
Peter’s Authority More Solid Than a Rock
By: Fr. Dwight Longenecker
When I was in the Bible doctrine class at Bob Jones University, one of the
verses we had to memorize was Matthew 16:18: "I tell you that you are Peter,
and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not
prevail against it."
A Catholic student might memorize this verse to prove his beliefs about the
papacy. We learned ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 信耶穌者上天堂,不信者下地獄?
引用自網絡:
上面這張投影片中的經節,出自新約聖經約翰福音第十四章。許多人以此為「天堂」的
主要聖經根據。
首先,我們必須來看看「天堂」這個詞。
這又是一個翻譯不當而蒙蔽真理的典型範例。
先看中文聖經譯本,使用最普遍的和合譯本中,這個詞出現了兩次:
"因為基督並不是進了人手所造的聖所、(這不過是真聖所的影像)乃是進了天堂、如
今為我們顯在神面前,"
-希伯來書 9:24-
"耶穌已經進入天堂、在神的右邊,眾天使和有權柄的、並有能力的、都服從了他。"
-彼得前書 3:22-
兩節都說耶穌基督進入了天堂。
這個詞「天堂」的希臘文原文是 οὐρανός,讀作ouranos,它的
意思是
air, heaven, sky;用中文說,就是空中,天,天空。
這個字在新約聖經中出現過283次,在King James 英譯本中,268次被譯為heaven,10
次被譯為air,5次被譯為sky。
在上述兩處被譯為「天堂」的經節中,King James 譯本都譯作heaven。
那麼,heaven是甚麼意思呢?
Heaven 的意思是「天」,它完全沒有「堂」的意思。
有時... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 美国科学院院士信基督教的比例: 7%

“史前”的说法证明了你根本不认真读“圣经”!摘录旧帖:
基督徒们的回应之二:“二次创世说”。
“圣经”“创世纪”的前两节是这么写的:
1 起初神创造天地。
2 地是空虚混沌。渊面黑暗。神的灵运行在水面上。
基督徒们辩解说:这第一节和第二节经文之间是一段很长很长的时间。“神”创造世界
创造了两次,第一次“创世”只用第一节经文提一下。第二次“创世”由第二节开始,
这才是描写创造我们现在居住的这个世界的“创造过程”。如此一来,我们一开始提到
的科学和“圣经”的矛盾就不存在了。基督徒们可以狡辩说:宇宙啦地球啦恐龙啦都是
在“第一次创世”的时候创造的。而关于第一次“创世”“圣经”里只有一句话,我们
就很难再找得出矛盾来了。
这个解释高明吗?哈哈,这个解释只能叫弱智。完全是不认真读“圣经”的基督徒
们想出来的。
我们来看一看着第一节“经文”的中英文:
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看上
面引用过的“出埃... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 美国科学院院士信基督教的比例: 7%

你要学会思考!看清楚了:
1 起初神创造天地。
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
注意,这第一节“造”的是“天地”,英文是“heavens and the earth”。再看看上
面引用过的“出埃及记”经文的中英文对照:
出埃及记 20:11 因为六日之内,耶和华造天,地,海,和其中的万物,第七日便安息
,所以耶和华赐福与安息日,定为圣日。
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all
that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
==========
不要以为你的论点无瑕可击, 十全十美。
不反驳你, 是让你自夸高兴一两天而已。
还好, 你自己也搬了英文来
创世纪 1:1
In the beginning, when God 【c... 阅读全帖
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光田佛跪呈師父弟子十問
20161009
1 請問師父黃金時代、 九界明師在世,釋迦牟尼、達摩、幾祖、蘇格拉底、穆罕默德
五界最智慧明師《五界管理層》在世是不是在跟九界明師學如何管理五界?
請問師父黃金時代,值得師父教的偉大弟子是不是已經超越了幾千年來過這星球的所有
五界明師的佛層面的大愛、佛層面的大智能、佛層面的大徹大悟和偉大?
2 請問師父黃金時代,是不是必有地獄道、惡鬼道、畜生道、阿修羅道所有上帝兒女靈
魂都被九界明師教五界明師帶回五界?
是不是必有九界明師教五界明師將天道和人道合一,讓人間天堂降臨人間?
是不是必有九界明師教五界明師讓人人都能享受到天道待遇,讓人類不再生病,是讓人
類不再有衰老,讓人人最少活千年、萬年?
是不是必有九界明師教五界明師讓人間再沒有戰爭、沒有殺戮?
是不是必有九界明師教五界明師讓天道眾生能在世成佛有資格提高靈性等級改變靈命?
3 請問師父黃金時代,師父要求所有弟子必須去找的成佛秘訣是不是已經引導數千位五
界佛出世?
4 請問師父,您報身現在是不是已經率先進入人間天堂,先享受天道待遇?
5 請問師父,您教的師父弟子是不是應該活在為六道眾生所有上帝兒女解... 阅读全帖
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Landau (heaven) 于 (Sun Aug 3 02:49:25 2008) 提到:
大家来猜猜这些是北大的什么楼。
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Landau (heaven) 于 (Sun Aug 3 02:52:19 2008) 提到:
继续

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Landau (heaven) 于 (Sun Aug 3 03:06:12 2008) 提到:
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Landau (heaven) 于 (Sun Aug 3 03:07:43 2008) 提到:
最后一张照片是两栋楼。
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Landau (heaven) 于 (Sun Aug 3 03:09:35 2008) 提到
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