l*****e
发帖数: 112 | 1 WHO WAS AUGUSTINE? He was so polluted with heresy that the Roman Catholic
Church has claimed him as one of its “doctors.”
Augustine was a persecutor and the father of the doctrine of persecution in
the Catholic Church. The historian Neander observed that Augustine’s
teaching “contains the germ of the whole system of spiritual despotism,
intolerance, and persecution, even to the court of the Inquisition.” He
instigated bitter persecutions against the Bible-believing Donatists who
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发帖数: 378 | 3 from "god's" perspective!? how dare u! u r tempting the lord! r u spreading
heresy! u r possessed by the devil. inquisition now.......... hahahaha
if u still want rationality, common sense or logic, u r not "ready" for
christianity my friend. do NOT try to be logical at all in christianity.
logic is human, not "divine". christianity is a derivative from judaism with
many many crude, illogical conflicts built-in.
for chinese, only the weak, the lost and the stupid would REALLY buy into it
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发帖数: 9567 | 4 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: GetThere (肉，来如山倒，去如抽丝), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 2世纪的护教的产生
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 7 12:25:07 2011, 美东)
The Apologists
http://www.churchhistory101.com/century2-p6.php
The second century brought with it a steady growth of Gentile Christianity,
but not without opponents. We have seen the rise of various heresies,
opposition marked by a twisting of "apostolic teaching." This led the early
Christian leadership to further develop creeds and formulas as a way to
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发帖数: 25615 | 6 這就是溫和基督徒的可惡之處, 他們自己倒未必
有害自己或他人, 可是他們就是極端教徒的
human shield， 幫著極品擋住批評。
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Secular-Philosophies/The-Proble
The Problem with Religious Moderates
We can no longer afford the luxury of political correctness. When religion
causes violence, its root claims must be challenged.
BY: Sam Harris
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Reprinted from The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason
with permission of W.W. Norton & Company, Inc.
People of faith fall on a continuum: som... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 7 John 1;1
Jesus has begnning
if you really read bible, you cannot be trinitarian and calvinist
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发帖数: 3781 | 8 you are heresy, good night |
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发帖数: 4956 | 10 But you should really know what Christianity is first.
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发帖数: 712 | 11 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: jiagejidu (shenmumaliya), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Why is Calvinism a Cult?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 18 22:22:17 2011, 美东)
Calvinism is a cult for many reasons. Cultlike behavior is always marked
by an idolatrous desire to the cult itself. This is especially true in
Calvinism. You will not find every Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist to be
mired down in the cult-like behavior of Calvinism. There are many people who
attend Calvinistic churches do so for reasons o... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 168 | 12 The same question is back to you.
It the TOP post about heresy?
It seems not only your IQ but alsw your eyes and hands do not function
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发帖数: 2456 | 13 THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV
By Fyodor Mikailovich Dostoevsky
Translated by Constance Garnett
Chapter 5
The Grand Inquisitor
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/pol116/grand.htm
"EVEN this must have a preface- that is, a literary preface," laughed Ivan,
"and I am a poor hand at making one. You see, my action takes place in the
sixteenth century, and at that time, as you probably learnt at school, it
was customary in poetry to bring down heavenly powers on earth. Not to speak
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发帖数: 141625 | 14 【 以下文字转载自 Translation 讨论区 】
发信人: wh (wh), 信区: Translation
标 题: 【征文】瞎翻现代诗，疑问和感触
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 19 01:14:13 2013, 美东)
应友之托，瞎翻了一首19世纪英国诗人Gerard Manley Hopkins的诗《Ode to Purcell
》——Purcell是17世纪的英国巴洛克风格作曲家。19世纪的诗其实还不算太现代，大
致意思还明白：高声赞美Purcell的厉害。但逐字翻译很吃力，第一句就不明白意思，
后面很多字句、意象也不明所以。我不会写诗，只按字面瞎猜乱翻……不怕笑话地贴出
来，一是想问几个不明白的地方，二是有些喜欢的词句和大家分享。
HAVE, fair fallen, O fair, fair have fallen, so dear
To me, so arch-especial a spirit as heaves in Henry Purcell,
An age is now since passed, since parted; with ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3006 | 15 试着翻译一下全诗，下午或者周末有时间的话再仔细改。
==============
[亨利·普赛尔之赞歌]
By Gerard Hopkins
他已安静地死亡，啊死亡，安静的死亡，令我觉得
如此温暖，如此不寻常，亨利·普赛尔的灵魂飘浮在天上，
时代在结束后开始，在中断后续航；就在这里，他被宣布为异端，
被猛烈崩发之后又坍塌的判决所埋葬。
美好的不是他的感情，或思想，或骄傲的火焰或神圣的恐慌，
或爱或慈悲或甜美的乐章---不是那样，他的世界里流淌
着：一种碰撞我的世界的奇怪形状的东西；一种真实的
表演，重击着暴露的自我，在耳中回荡。
让他，啊，就这样用天使的气息令我飞翔，令我沉睡！这个时刻只有我能看见
他的内心，那些微妙的月亮斑影，看见每当他在时间
中漫步时翅膀下纷飞如雪的羽毛：如同童话般的野雁。
如果他呼啸而过身上闪亮洁白的碎片落下一个巨大的微笑，
紫色的海滩将被雷电笼罩，
于是奇迹之风将吹起，于是我们的思想将得到解脱。
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Henry Purcell
By Gerard Hopkins
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发帖数: 141625 | 16 嗯，purcell还有首乐曲就叫funeral sentences for queen mary. purcell是新教徒，
hopkins是天主教徒，leisure版的朋友说hopkins因此对purcell的教派耿耿于怀，既喜
欢他的音乐，又因为他是heresy而烦恼。
我理解的abrupt也是差不多的意思，不陈词滥调，不顺畅悦耳，具有冲击性。你的意想
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发帖数: 4816 | 17 "爱的反面不是恨，是漠然." 多次看到过一些人提到过这个看似很有哲理，又符合现实
生活规律的，但又与多数人的常识所不同（即“非主流”）的说法, 只因为它最开始是
出自一个名人之口， Elie Wiesel。
他说：
The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of beauty
is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it'
s indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, but indifference
between life and death.
所以，这他眼泪，所有感觉和感情的opposite side，都是indifference。
那么，what is the opposite of indifference？CARE! CONCERN!
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发帖数: 278 | 18 CHAPTER 7
The Ethanol in W-3
No credence whatever is to be given to the opinion... that
the demons act as messengers and interpreters between the
gods and men to carry all petitions from us to the gods, and
to bring back to us the help of the gods. On the contrary,
we must believe them to be spirits most eager to inflict
harm, utterly alien from righteousness, swollen with pride,
pale with envy, subtle in deceit...
-Augustine
The City of God, VIII, 22
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发帖数: 141625 | 19 应友之托，瞎翻了一首19世纪英国诗人Gerard Manley Hopkins的诗《Ode to Purcell
》——Purcell是17世纪的英国巴洛克风格作曲家。19世纪的诗其实还不算太现代，大
致意思还明白：高声赞美Purcell的厉害。但逐字翻译很吃力，第一句就不明白意思，
后面很多字句、意象也不明所以。我不会写诗，只按字面瞎猜乱翻……不怕笑话地贴出
来，一是想问几个不明白的地方，二是有些喜欢的词句和大家分享。
HAVE, fair fallen, O fair, fair have fallen, so dear
To me, so arch-especial a spirit as heaves in Henry Purcell,
An age is now since passed, since parted; with the reversal
Of the outward sentence low lays him, listed to a heresy, here.
美妙降临了，噢，美妙已降临，如此宝贵
对我，亨利·普赛尔高举起一个如此特殊的心灵，
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发帖数: 5617 | 21 http://dailyprincetonian.com/2013/03/29/32755/
OPINION | LETTER TO THE EDITOR | MARCH 29
Letter to the Editor:
Advice for the young women of Princeton:
the daughters I never had
By SUSAN PATTON
GUEST CONTRIBUTOR
Published: Friday, March 29th, 2013
Forget about having it all, or not having it all, leaning in or leaning out
— here’s what you really need to know that nobody is telling you.
For years (decades, really) we have been bombarded with advice on
professional advancement, breaking through t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 297 | 22 http://www.cftfc.com/com_chinese/heresies/reading.asp?title_no=3-08
我們是地方召會不是所謂『呼喊派』
壹 歷史的回顧和今天的現實
八十年代初期，中國改革開放，海外華人，成千上萬，遍訪祖國，其中基督徒為數不少
，與國內信徒接觸之間，不免有屬靈交流。水流職事站出版之文字書刊，在海外早已流
傳甚廣，深獲基督教界各方人士歡迎，於該段時間內，也流傳至國內各地。在國內信徒
愛慕真理的背景下，這些文字書刊廣受歡迎。許多渴慕真理、愛主的真基督徒，在這些
純正的聖經教訓之下，獲益甚多。
在這些基於聖經的教訓與實行中，最遭受誤會的，就是『呼求主名』的實行。其實，主
恢復之『地方召會』雖有呼求主名的實行，卻從未提倡盲目的喊叫，更未以此實行自成
一派。然而，許多不求甚解之士，常將『地方召會』與政府緝拿的『呼喊派』之間，作
許多模糊曖昧之聯想。為此，我們願先就『呼喊派』一稱，作簡要的定義。
現今一般外界對『呼喊派』的定義有二。有一派人士認定，呼喊派即為一切跟從李常受
教訓，接受『呼求主名』之實行者，如人稱的『小群』、『聚會所』等；但有另一派人 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 25 http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/ashes.htm
His Ashes Cry Out Against John Calvin
Dan Corner
You are about to read an important part of church history from the
Reformation period that has been so concealed in our day that very few
people know the facts. Brace yourself for a shock.
On October 27, 1553 John Calvin, the founder of Calvinism, had Michael
Servetus, the Spanish physician, burned at the stake just outside of Geneva
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发帖数: 9433 | 26 異端，指不屬於正統思想的思想派別，通常含有負面的含意，或稱旁門左道；但也可指
不重要的思想
流派，即小道。子曰：「攻乎異端，斯害也已」（《論語·為政》），朱熹的解釋：「
專治而欲精之，
為害甚矣」，意即專門僅僅鑽研于義理的一端，是很有害的行為。子夏曰：「雖小道，
必有可觀者
焉」（《論語·子張》），《正義》的解釋：「小道謂異端之說，百家語。」
異端一詞常在宗教中被使用，或稱外教為異教。異教往往指本教以外的教，而異端則側
重指本教產生
出來的非主流教派，但也可包括指非本教的異教。中國人的信仰通常是儒教、道教、佛
教三教合一，
因此對於儒釋道、百家之言這些不同的思想學說和宗教信仰都能博採眾長。在西方閃米
特一神諸教
中，由於其極強的排他性，「異端」一詞具有完全不同的意味。
宗教中的異端
異端，又稱「旁門左道」，作為宗教用詞，一般指和某一宗教特別是占統治地位的宗教
具有不同信念
的群體。「異端」一詞的使用，因受使用者的信仰理念所影響，所以其使用往往甚具爭
議。
道教
在道教中，也存在和其他思想學說和宗教的區分。然而，在很長時間，道教在中國被一
些儒教文人稱
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发帖数: 5785 | 28 我以为名单会比这长多了。
无论如何，感谢神，这种不宜做法已经作古了。 |
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发帖数: 9433 | 29 当然要长的多， 这上面都是比较出名的科学家和哲学家而已，
另外请教一下现在合适的做法是不是剥夺被你们认为的异端的言论自由？ |
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发帖数: 9433 | 31 我估摸着不是明显犯法会接受惩罚的话，这些牺牲了的“异端”很可以再被这些基烧一次 |
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发帖数: 5785 | 32 原来如此，谢谢告知。
剥夺言论自由是法律范围，我们的版规是确定哪些话题不宜在这里讨论，是不是违法不
是我们可以管得到的。而且我想非基督徒也不关心这些事情，因为所谓异端，都是事关
基督徒的生命拯救的。作为基督教正信，对这些影响基督徒得救的异端予以限制理所当
然。
至于对他们的肉体惩罚，我早就说过，我非常反对。所以我感谢神，这样的做法已经作
古。而拿宗教裁判所等同于我们这里对异端进行的限制，正是犯了时空倒错的错误。 |
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发帖数: 9433 | 33 1: 你不能代表非基
2：这里不是你们的福音传教堂，是公开的基督信仰讨论论坛， 你没有权力限制你认为
的非正统派教
徒，这违反了买买提开创的宗旨，言论自由
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发帖数: 5785 | 34 基督教信仰中的异端都是围绕核心信仰内容展开的，不是基督徒，门都没有入，怎么会
参与这些具体的事情？坦率地说，这是基督教内部的事情。
第二，言论自由不是绝对自由，在遵守版规服从版务管理的前提下，任何人都有言论自
由。如果你的理解不同，是你的理解问题。我想这个已经在不同场合三令五申了，希望
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发帖数: 34 | 35 版规也不是绝对的, 版规要服从站规, 站规要服从法律.
如果你的理解不同，是你的理解问题。我也不想再三令五申了，希望这是最后一次。要
永生还是要硬翘翘的死, 你自己看着半. |
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发帖数: 9433 | 38 不好意思，这个是非基目前普遍的问题，不是我一个人，麻烦你直接请教站务，有站务
一句话什么都好
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发帖数: 3781 | 41 一次得救，永远得救 is heresy
only God can see ppl's heart. "justfication by faith" is only from God's pe
rspective
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发帖数: 10575 | 42 http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.ii.i.html
Chapter I
Introduction
The purpose of this book is not to set forth a new system of theological
thought, but to give a re-statement to that great system which is known as
the Reformed Faith or Calvinism, and to show that this is beyond all doubt
the teaching of the Bible and of reason.
The doctrine of Predestination receives comparatively little attention in
our day and it is very imperfectly understood even by those who are supposed
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发帖数: 9567 | 43 Walter L. Sargent, Assistant Professor of History, University of Maine
Farmington
http://iweb.tntech.edu/kosburn/history-201/Puritans%20&%20Indians.htm
Indians and Puritans
A. Background
1. Indians of New England included the Abenaki, Pawtucket, Massachuset,
Narragansett. Pequot, and Wampanoag tribes
2. In 1616 an epidemic wiped out 3/4 of the New England Indian population,
so that Puritans landed in an area where Indians' ability to resist was
greatly weakened
3. In 1633-34 another smallpox epi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 44 why the original post can not be replied?
Banzhu even think the Christian Research Journal is heresy? |
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发帖数: 9567 | 45 The Apologists
http://www.churchhistory101.com/century2-p6.php
The second century brought with it a steady growth of Gentile Christianity,
but not without opponents. We have seen the rise of various heresies,
opposition marked by a twisting of "apostolic teaching." This led the early
Christian leadership to further develop creeds and formulas as a way to
solidify "orthodox" positions. One must remember that in the early second
century the New Testament had not come fully into form – the writings... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2 | 48 回到最初发帖的姊妹的问题，的确并不复杂。
基督徒喊阿们哈利路亚是很正常的，可能是他们的方式和你以往的实行不大一样，只是
你不习惯而已。这不是什麽大问题。
既然是弟兄姊妹，大家又都是在主里，没有什么不能沟通的，是不是呼喊派，直接问就
是了。关於呼喊派，提供下面的链接作参考：
http://www.cftfc.com/com_chinese/heresies/reading.asp?title_no=
至於去那里聚会，这的确需要主的引导，你就向主祷告，求主带你到祂要你去的地方。
寻找的过程中，不要太快有主观的论断，就多接触，多看，多祷告，最后以基督的平安
作仲裁。人的许多意见虽出于好意，但往往带着不同的观念背景，参考一下就是了，有
时听太多反而会让你无法清明。祂是活神，只要你真心寻找，祂会让你寻见的。
关於「恢复本」，就是一个圣经的翻译版本，如同许许多多的翻译版本如和合本、现代
中文译本、启导本、庄稼本……等等，都是神藉著许多忠心的仆人翻译出来，为著供应
所有神的儿女。我所认识不同团体的基督徒中也都有人使用恢复本。若是你有疑虑，就
使用自己惯用的版本就是了。如果那个团契因为你不使用恢复本就... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 49 My conscience told me that myelsa is saved.
you cannot be my friend when you say she is heresy.
very simple
but I don't like Mormonism. I think both Calvinism and Mormonism are bad.
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