f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 and some rakeback, haha.
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 2 should say I pay a lot of rake. I calculated. I played around 40 games. 0.75
$ each. I paid 0.75*40 =30$ for the rake.
30*0.27=8$ for the rake back. |
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c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 3 when you are on the down swing, the speed of the game may amplify the
problem. just slow down a bit could help. I just got back into the rush
nl5 but playing at much slower speed. my game seem to be getting better.
but my winning line is running way above my all in ev line. that is just so
worrysome. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 4 at much slower speed.---------might be good in some way, might be bad in
another way. Because you can not win that much at slow speed.
Similar thing is the stake.
so |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 5 No. If "I think" I have an edge on the games, I go for it.
I played a couple of 50$ superturbo HUSNG, but I guess it is too much for me
(skill levels, bankroll stuff), I do not play it any more nowadays.
Related to 20$ rebuy Token game, I do not know they have 50 minutes rebuy
time. As you may know. 20$ get 300 chips, Till 40 minutes, the blinds is 200
/100. I rebuy 3 times(,cost 60bucks) get 900 chips, only 4.5BB. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 6 shitty things happen to me also.
I get huge downswings on HUSNG for 1.7k
another huge downswings on super turbo SNG for 1.5k. (Around 10 hours!!!)
some tilts happen for MTT, blows another 1k or 1.5k |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 7 I will start mine:
I am not sure how many hands I played since most my game are
HUSNG and I lost my HH during to computer crash.
One of the best hand I played this year is to shove 3 pair on
the board in position for value.
I played with a very loose player. I raised every button, he
got tilted and started to shove most of my raise. I have to fold most of
them. so I started to limp some playable hand on button in order to see flop
and play in position. We p... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 not many.. 好象HUSNG没啥edge.. 对手明显是鱼..看sharkscop 好象是打小级别.. on tilt 才上来打30$ buy in 的.. |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 9 such strong desire to play again and again after a match is finished. |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 10 ft，去玩了一下，就2个人，玩了以后一点也没发现好玩啊。。。。 |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 12 wow, play at 4AM in order to catch european donk/fish?
tilt
HU
tilt |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 13 你强。我刚在sharkscope查了一下，一共打了大约2000把 $110buy in HU， rake交了1
万，赢了8300， 最后竟亏1700， ROI -1%, 郁闷。觉得HU tournament抽水抽太多了。
没有那27% rakeback现在看来很亏， 2700刀啊，操。
regular
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 15 I only play tiny HU SNG super turbo($1/$2). I play to improve MTT final table HU.
I bet the higher stake, the higher motive to bluff/tilt. Many times, it
comes coin flip (push allin w/ Ax/Kx). |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 16 Ss your opp everytime, only rematch with opp whose roi is below 0. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 17 wow, man , you are hot!!!!
1424692610346646551 01/17/11 4:56:00 PM $110 + $5 Heads Up Sit &
Go $110.00+$5.00 2 1 $220.00
1424690724856003607 01/17/11 4:52:00 PM $110 + $5 Heads Up Sit &
Go $110.00+$5.00 2 1 $220.00
1424688332559219735 01/17/11 4:51:00 PM $110 + $5 Heads Up Sit &
Go $110.00+$5.00 2 1 $220.00
1424686739126352919 01/17/11 4:48:00 PM $110 + $5 Heads Up Sit &
Go $110.00+$5.00 2 1 $220.00
14246... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 18 There are still plenty of fish out of there. I play most HUSNG , middle-
high stakes, there are tons of bad players. the key things is that you have
to learn new game, improve yoursel to a new level. It is not the days that
you can just sit there and wait to get nuts to get paid. NL Holdem ring
game is getting dry now, but there of tons of other opportunity poping up.
day
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 19
what is the long term ROI can you guys get to play Super tubo SNG? For ST
HUSNG, a decent player can get about 5% roi on middle stake(35-100) level.
Considering the speed the of the game, it is quite profitable. I ave 2.9 min
a game, so it is not hard to get around 70-100 game per day. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 20 I mainly play HUSNG , trying to play more MTT. Any video or book to
recommend to improve middle/late stage MTT play?
I watch some top online pro's late stage play, there are tons of squeeze
play in late stage, I just do not know how to do it well. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 21
yeah. I am definately a nit playing rush. lol. my vpip drops to 11.5 in FR
rush.
when I play HUSNG, I am a super maniac though. Open over 90% button most of
time. :)
I hate hand like KJ in deep stack NL though, I prefer 3 betting with 67
other than KJ. KJ playes very well in HU though. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 22 for HU cash game, highly recommend Phil Gondfond's vid. For me, much
better than most vid on CR.
I do not play much HU cash, but it improves my reading in HUSNG a lot
, I can comforablely call big bet on the river with K high and lay down top
pair based on read someitime in HU.
flopped
compete
I
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 23
10
HU cash is drying down now. not many fish you can catch. some
pro HU cash play start to play HUSNG. HU has big swing, so not blame
yourself for bad play. there are some luck factor as well.
BTW, I saw that like0371 play 40/80 NL 6 max yesterday. I
played with him on 400NL b4. 2p2 said he jumps level very fast. guess
isurdur1 style. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 24
losing tons of 55-45, or 40/60 are very normal. I just got a super
tilt on ss 2 days ago playing HUSNG (lost 8 in a row), most resulting from
losing these 40/60 , most time I am in 60 side, or even 7:3 or 3:1 sometime
. Just be used to it. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 25 Just had a good day in HU and up about 23 bi. Finally bring my ROI in
ST HUSNG back to 5%. It is decent considering it takes less than 3 min
per game.
I only find one reg on FTP who has higher ROI in STHU on 50+ stake.
A guy from UK has 6%. OF course, my stake is not super high. Best player on
ave 200+ level had about 2-3 ROI. Less than 10 playerd have that. I had
about 7 ROI after my first 5k ST game. I had hard time for my ego/tilt
control sometime, fight a lot with some ... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 26 thanks.
I got tilt much more often when playing HUSNG, especially playing with
some LAG regs. so much ego going on.
Usually when you got a bad beat or bad run and can not play your A game,
best plus EV is to take a break. Take a walk, do some workout, then come
back to see if you are on your game. Also, BR management is very important.
Always feel comfortable to move down, while never giving up taking shot a
higher level as well, just keep enough BR for lower level.
are
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 27 I would not say poker envioment is not bad now. yeah. there are much less
U.S online fish now coz the legal issue and economy, but there are many new
market that generate enough fish, like Brazil, Korean etc. I played NL 400
Rush and middle-high stakes HUSNG, there are still tons of fish there.
谈到射雕，谈点题外话。我觉得扑克有点像武功，没有固定的模式，各种门派，打
法，各有千秋。 所以要拜师，就争取拜最好的。江南七怪对郭靖很好，但永远不能把
它培养成高手。 他跟了洪七公，才发现，不时自己天赋太差，是师父不行。For
poker, I watched a lot of Phil Golfold's vid on Bluefire, it helps my game
so much!... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 28 I was often got called luck box when playing HUSNG , so is moron, donk,
whore etc. lol. I do not know what exactly luck box means though.
I think these kind of cooler are even money over long term since
nobody can get away from it. I got a few tims quads over nuts full house as
well. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 29 5$ HUSNG. easily won. they even have rematch option. just the limit is too
high for my BR there, but that is their lowest limit :P |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 30 35$ now. but still too low for 5$ HUSNG. hopefully can make deposit. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 31 I used playersonly. it is decent for me. I only play HUSNG though. It
has some function that FTP does not have, like show one card and have EV
displayed when the all hand is running. Deposit is ok for me, you can use
prepaid Visa card/gift card to deposit.
BTW, you can have different ID on all their skins? how do they avoid
cheating by not letting same person sit at one table? I know you can only
run one merge client one time with one PC, but u can run it on different
computer.
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 32 to kill time you can play some 5$ husng with me. lol
sometimes.
a |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 from what i read, it'll still take months for DC to go live and federal gov.
could still stop it... so for such a small city, i'd say it only has
symbolic value. or, unless dozens of states would do the same thing, nothing
would be changed.
seen
HUSNG
should |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 34 I do think their RNG is random. lots of things can not be judged by EV
line on HEM.
I was almsot 20k below my EV line last few month in HUSNG since I
purchased HEM.
my result is still way up. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 35 most of my game on line are husng almost play everyhand. play a few live
session in vegas after bf. feel so boring sitting there waiting for quality
hand. do not know how long takes to adjust. sign i hate bf! |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 36 yeah. you need decent bank roll to get started for live game and there will
be lot of up and downs. For online game, there are lots of game that
basically do not need bankroll.
There are some significent difference between online and live game.
Nowdays, most live game are NL cash game and the game is getting tougher.
but online you have a LOT more options. I started with FTP to play HUSNG with
50$ deposit and had almost 200$k total profit combined with winning from
Rush Poker and Rakeb... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 37 Lmao! Quite misleading though ;)
it seems you got tons of info on her :). I saw her with Yev during WSOP
though, not rumor. he is one of best HUSNG player online. He won a WTP title
as well.
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 38 lol. I have similar experience playing HUSNG online. I was playing against
a Norway fish who had no fold button on his client. We played a few macth
and he never fold a single time. so I raised 77 to half of his stack, I snap
called. Flop is Q33, he checked and I put him all in . HE called with 24o.
turn is Ace ,river is 5.
nothing you can do. that is poker, buddy
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 39 这东西说起来容易， 但做起来难。 我打了大概三万个 husng match了， 还是没有
完全克服tilt 和 ego 的问题。 我的数据也还行，在ftp 有7% roi , 但觉得如果每个
game都能 大自己的b+ game, roi 至少能提高
30%， 想livb112讲， 完全不tilt 几乎不可能， 关键是tilt 对自己有多大影响，能
否及时调整。
大牌和做人是一样的，最难战胜的是自己。 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 40 livb112, well considered the best online HUSNG player, is the commentator.
quite educational, IMO.
seiver |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 41 yeah. I am a HUSNG player myself. I have lots of respect to livb's game. he
is quite creative player, his commentary is very analysical.
btw, I played cash game with Brian Rash once, very solid player. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 42 Last year, I attended a lecture given by Annie Duke. She has graduate degree
of pychology from U.Penn. She said something interesting about tilting. She
said when you are losing and got frustrated, you are like a drunk driver.
You know something bad is likely going to happen, just can not control
yourself and keep doing it. Best thing to do is to QUIT when losing and
lost control, just like you should never drive when you are drunk.
Guess anytime you got suck out and lose a big pot, you sh... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 43 Agree. When I play HU, ego is one of my major weakness. sometime , even I
know I should not rematch some reg , coz edge is very small or no edge at
all, still keep doing that coz I do not want to lose. It just takes time and
some displine to get away.
I used to fight with a reg playing regular speed HUSNG a lot. we were
talking a lot sh*t as well. I said my roi is much better, he said I can only
beat fishes, then I said " you are one of them", then we were getting
emotional and played many m... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 44 i am trying not to use HEM when playing HUSNG for super turbo structure ,
these stat is kind of misleading since things chagne too fast based on blind
etc. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 45 Antonio said something interesting. You know you can not win if not betting
, and you kwow you will be very likey get called if you bet, still just can
not resist yourself.
I have this kind of feeling very often when playing HUSNG. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 46 和人家比， 就觉得自己努力的太不够。 我大了两年full time online, 算上
rakeback, winning（husng+rush) 也就将近200k. 发现自己 大牌的时间太多了， 花
在学习和提高自己的时间太少了。
看了 bluefire 和 cr 上 的vid ,才觉得自己的 leak 太多了， 还有心理素质
也还不算过关。 想把自己的game 提高， 还是应该多学习， 思考。。。
she
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 47 en. One of the toughest thing of playing FT is that you have take certain
portion of your winning out for your living expense/saving etc. If I had
kept all my winning online, I would make much faster progress.
Also, you have to be able to tolerate variance , which is another very
tough part of playing poker to make a living. Guess pro stock trader will
have similiar experiece. I made 50$ deposit two years ago on FTP and started to play HUSNG. I turned 50$
into 1k$ within a week a... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 48 I just mentioned in early post that I did not spend enough time to study/improve
my game. I also admit in my early post that I have lots of leak as well, like
overvalue bluff opportunity of big card playing HU.
Tilt/ego issue is another major factor that prevent me from further
success.
I do not have a single losing month record playing online though. Only
one losing month in HUSNG ,but I had decent score in 2-4 rush that month.
be
prevent
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 49 I totally agree with you on the learning part!
Before BF, I can only say I can make money from 6-max ST on FTP.
After BF, I was forced to play cash on Merge. I can't even beat 25NL before
BF. But I spent a lot of time on reading NL cash materials and watched at
least 100
vids(6max or HU cash) from CR.
I think I can play at 50NL level on Merge, at least break even before RB.
But I am not sure whether this will apply to mid-stake NL cash because I
felt
uncomfortable playing 6-max midstake cash gam... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 50 you are right.
300-400k/y will put you on top 3 of SNG leader board, across all
online site.
If you play 6man or 9man, you are guarantee to play high stakes, and play
against those top pros day in and day out, and you still get a solid ROI,
probably one of the highest ROI among those top pros. And all other top pros
will not be happy to stay at your table.
if you can make that much on HUSNG, you are top 3 without any question,
because you are guaranteed to play against all top world level player... 阅读全帖 |
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