s*******b
发帖数: 1012 | 1 转吧转吧，改行做这个了
像这种小case我问过的都是2000起跳，其他大case就更多了
lz
明你无罪，而是人家要证明你有罪。还是个举证责任的问题。如果一开始就想着要证明
自己无罪，那可能是有点难；不过现在是人家要证明你有罪，这个对鱼警来说，一样难。
力的。如果做不到的话，花点钱换个infraction，也算方便。 |
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z****n
发帖数: 1379 | 2 呵呵，你这个帖讲的很有道理，比上一个“危言耸听“的帖子好多了：）我那个帖子就
是没你这么耐心，很多措辞简单化了。
比如我说的“100%判你没事“，相对于楼主对未来绿卡身份啥的担心来说，我认为判成
infraction已经算“没事“了，当然实际情形可能比这个还好。
如果连罚款也不想交，也是可能的。像很多id说的，这么简单一件事，把逻辑想清楚了
，带点基本的类似“是警察需要证明他有罪，而不是他自己要证明他无罪“这种基本法
律常识，不一定非要请律师。我上一帖的意思就是让lz推到他妈身上，说他妈不知道，
自己也没提醒，但是自己没做这事，鱼警很难出示确凿证据证明是lz捞的。
我自己也打过这种小官司，对方都请了律师，我认为我证据充分，事实清楚，就自己上
阵了，对方律师还不是灰溜溜败下阵来。真的不用迷信律师，我一直认为像辛普森案那
种明明曲在自己还非要胡搅蛮缠的时候律师才真正起作用。
DA |
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p***e
发帖数: 1318 | 3 不是随便挖个洞就可以钓鱼的。看前面探亲的， Fishing without license
7145（a)是infraction。Pleasanton钓淡水鱼确实方便。除了shadown cliff
还可以去Del Valle, 比南湾强太多了。
论地形地势非常差。俺以前贴过一篇。Pleasanton东西南北被四五个活跃的
fault围绕，是兵法上的“四塞之地”。到处是粘土地质，房子地基有问题
的不少。
基本上是围着火炉吃西瓜的气候。冬冷夏热，昼夜温差大。比南湾差很多。
到南湾来回两小时，不说时间金钱损失和交通安全问题。每天吸两小时毒气，听
两小时七十到八十分贝的噪音，绝对是慢性自杀。
如果在东湾工作，住Pleasanton不失为一个好选择。南湾工作，敢住幸福屯，
那是铁人。 |
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l****n
发帖数: 432 | 4 上庭给法官出示您的加州驾照，plea not guilty on misdemeanor, 要求减罪到
infraction,并要求上traffic school.good luck! |
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a*******d
发帖数: 4846 | 5 Key point to observe:
“What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things
that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to
level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates. |
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y*****d
发帖数: 4451 | 6 Criminally,DA will handle it, but you won't get compensation from criminal
court and you don't have to find a lawyer because you are NOT a party to a
criminal case. Bear this in mind that as you are not a party in a criminal
case, you can't dominate the course of the case, the trial, etc., ie. if DA
wants to settle with the defendant and seek a minor infraction and little
jail time, there is very little you can do.
Civilly, it depends on how much assets that defendant has, including
personal pro... 阅读全帖 |
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c**********5
发帖数: 653 | 7 这PARKING 是这样的： Free (F); Numbered(N)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFNNNNFFFFFFFFFF
而且整个PARKING Lot general entrance 和 里面 没有SIGN. 准备明天和PROPERTY
MANAGEER DISPUTE 我赔TOWLING company 的拖车RASOM 费。$395.00。 和
reimbursement
根据：
CVC 22658 in California
“”“
(1) There is displayed, in plain view at all entrances to the
property, a sign not less than 17 inches by 22 inches in size, with
lettering not less than one inch in height, prohibiting public
parking and indicating that vehicles will be removed at the own... 阅读全帖 |
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c**********5
发帖数: 653 | 8 这PARKING 是这样的： Free (F); Numbered(N)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFNNNNFFFFFFFFFF
而且整个PARKING Lot general entrance 和 里面 没有SIGN. 准备明天和PROPERTY
MANAGEER DISPUTE 我赔TOWLING company 的拖车RASOM 费。$395.00。 和
reimbursement
根据：
CVC 22658 in California
“”“
(1) There is displayed, in plain view at all entrances to the
property, a sign not less than 17 inches by 22 inches in size, with
lettering not less than one inch in height, prohibiting public
parking and indicating that vehicles will be removed at the own... 阅读全帖 |
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A******o
发帖数: 231 | 9 几天前刚从东部搬到湾区来找工作，今天一整天面试一家大公司，回来搭乘Light Rail
回住处时因为极度疲劳，加上车刚好进站急着上车，忘记用clipper card付费。结果半
路上来两个检票人员，当场被抓。用各种理由解释，但无济于事，仍然被开了张notice
，要求几周后要么交罚款$280，要么出庭 "contest the violation"。
我刚从东部过来，第一次搭乘Light Rail，之前办的clipper card搭乘BART和Bus都没
出现问题，不熟悉Light Rail的付费系统，自己也疏忽大意，因此犯下了这个愚蠢的错
误。
请问：
1. 在这张notice上，写明了我的violation是"Evasion of Fare"，算Infraction（而
不是Misdemeanor，虽然我对这两者的区别也不是很明白)。这个violation算是什么级
别的犯法行为？会不会影响到我下一步的找工作，比如在背景调查时出现这个
violation，从而使得发出的offer被收回？
2. 事有凑巧，我今天恰好没有带任何ID证件在身上，因此提供的信息只是姓名，出生
日期，目前住... 阅读全帖 |
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b********g
发帖数: 286 | 10 我建议你多google一下，本来infraction就不是大事儿，first time offender应该可
以没有criminal record的，而且你有以前都认真付费的证据啊。实在担心问个律师吧。
Rail
notice |
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A******o
发帖数: 231 | 11 多谢信息（是您本人的真实经历么？多谢分享阿）。之前已经决定出庭了，现在看来还
可以写信。就把我原文几段翻译成英文解释一下来龙去脉求求情是不是就成了？如果信
不管用还可以继续要求出庭见法官么？
PS: infraction好像是比misdemeanor低一级的violation吧。
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.I |
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A******o
发帖数: 231 | 12 多谢。
1. 这个确实不是我的case。实际上从这个case里我都看不出来到底是犯的什么罪。但
是我自己一个月前确实因为“逃票”收到citation（具体比较复杂：见：http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/SanFrancisco/33955499_0.html）
但是infraction也会出现在criminal record的么？而且case number根本对不上号。日
期也对不上号。
2. 我可以随便找任何一家当地警察局进去问这种问题么？
3. 还可以开这种证明？
4. 这个网站我之前也很怀疑，但我同时有搜索address history，给出的地址列表相当
准确，就是日期乱七八糟。 |
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T******0
发帖数: 1071 | 13 不要自己吓自己。移民工作等，查的都是crime。这种infraction，dismiss与否根本不
是问题。 |
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Z****n
发帖数: 383 | 14 一不小心进了bus lane，被警察逮住了
虽然挺nice，但还是给了citation（Infraction）
为他需不需要上庭，只回答说等ciation结果
大家有经验吗？ 主要担心是不是需要上庭？罚款大概多少？
关键2周后实习结束就回去了，怎么可能再来上庭。。
多谢！ |
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PK
发帖数: 1153 | 15 没那么简单 我觉得一般都是假定registered owner就是driver，这个取决于设立
camera的county或者city。当然在法庭上你是可以尝试argue证据不足，法官也许会
dismiss这个case。但是你自己要承担风险，也有可能法官不买你的帐。
比如seattle的规定是：
Q. WHAT IF THE REGISTERED OWNER WAS NOT DRIVING THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME OF
THEVIOLATION?
A. You may submit a sworn statement to that effect to the Court to rebut the
presumption,established in RCW 46.63.075, that you were driving the vehicle
at the time of theviolation. A Declaration of Non-Responsibility form can
be obtained from the Court in any o... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******n
发帖数: 12623 | 16 他们是胡说的。按照法律，没有“not eligible”的。你去要求Trial by Written
Declaration就行了。
具体是什么罪？是infraction还是misdemeanor？ |
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r****7
发帖数: 2282 | 17 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: raul07 (utopian), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 求助：在LA收到一个ticket该怎么处理
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 21 15:36:24 2013, 美东)
先介绍下背景，本人在硅谷工作，来美国半年左右所以一直拿着中国的驾照在开车，工
作签证，车子的registration和insurance都是在我自己名下。
事情经过：7月底去LA玩的时候直接cross了carpool lane的双黄线被抓，然后警察给我
开了个包含两个violation的ticket。一项是 drive without license （标记为
misdemeanor），另一项是cross DBL LINE INTO CARPOOL LANE （标记为infraction）
。我当时和警察说DMV的网站上写的外国人可以拿本国的驾照开车 http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#international 警察不听非让我签，然后说那个ticket不是最后的结果，先签了... 阅读全帖 |
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p*******o
发帖数: 77 | 18 也不是故意逃，就是附近站上没有买月票的地方，准备坐两站到market street买月票
。结果第一站就被抓了。Inspector看了看我的ID给了我张106刀的罚单。钱倒无所谓，
我的确有错。但是担心这个会对未来的绿卡申请有影响。查了一下网上的说法，这个是
infraction，以后签证，绿卡之类的对于“你是否被抓，被罚过。。。的问题”都要填
写“YES”。还要准备各种材料面对质询。
但是我很怀疑这个会留在我的记录上吗？我没有被fingerprinted，也没有提供SSN。
inspector只是记了一下我的ID上的驾照号。而且逃票在三藩已经被decriminalized了
。不知道以后被问到是否犯罪的问题是不是要说“YES”。
也算给大家提个醒，这种事情还是老老实实比较好，不然真是得不偿失。
有经验的好心人能不能给点建议？ |
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n*****b
发帖数: 45 | 19 我不清楚你的ticket 是属于infraction吗? |
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p*******o
发帖数: 77 | 20 在三藩是属于civil infraction.但是三藩的fare evasion已经被decriminalized的了
。不经过法院，在三藩这个罚款和parking ticket的类似。交钱也是在一个网站。属于
三藩交通管理局的网站。 |
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n*****b
发帖数: 45 | 21 我的理解是,加州法律文件明确得将infraction定义为crime一种, 但是decriminalized
的确是让人confusing, 我自己不是律师, 所以不敢再多说了.
我先最保险的方法还是问一下移民局, 他们说的才算数. 有好消息告诉我一声, 我以前
也很冤枉得拿了个fare evasion ticket
祝你好运! |
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b*******2
发帖数: 2121 | 22 这个人说的好啊：
“quote：“I can’t get over what a complete @#$% this guy is. Saying "I am
sorry you were offended" is not an apology. It's a Passive-Aggressive attack
. And implying that "maybe you didn’t understand because of cultural
reasons.’ is rediculous. Every white person watching it knew it was not
Condemning that childs view, but encouraging it. An apology would be: "On a
recent episode of our show we did something very wrong and very
reprehensible. We made a joke out of killing Chinese people. ... 阅读全帖 |
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I*M
发帖数: 937 | 23 lz please read this
Claude Dylan Ferris (from facebook) said:
I can’t get over what a complete @#$% this guy is. Saying "I am sorry you
were offended" is not an apology. It's a Passive-Aggressive attack. And
implying that "maybe you didn’t understand because of cultural reasons.’
is rediculous. Every white person watching it knew it was not Condemning
that childs view, but encouraging it.
An apology would be: "On a recent episode of our show we did something very
wrong and very reprehensible. We... 阅读全帖 |
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I*M
发帖数: 937 | 24 Claude Dylan Ferris said:
I can’t get over what a complete @#$% this guy is. Saying "I am sorry you
were offended" is not an apology. It's a Passive-Aggressive attack. And
implying that "maybe you didn’t understand because of cultural reasons.’
is rediculous. Every white person watching it knew it was not Condemning
that childs view, but encouraging it.
An apology would be: "On a recent episode of our show we did something very
wrong and very reprehensible. We made a joke out of killing Chinese ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******h
发帖数: 3219 | 25 下面是另外一个比较好的网上针对JK的评论， 貌似来自美国本土人士： Claude Dylan
Ferris:
I can’t get over what a complete @#$% this guy is. Saying "I am sorry you
were offended" is not an apology. It's a Passive-Aggressive attack. And
implying that "maybe you didn’t understand because of cultural reasons.’is
rediculous. Every white person watching it knew it was not Condemning that
childs view, but encouraging it. An apology would be: "On a recent episode
of our show we did something very wrong and very reprehensible. We made a
... 阅读全帖 |
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I*M
发帖数: 937 | 26 support!!!!!
If Mr. Kimmel doesn't know how to apologize, here is a speech for him,
written by a friend (a white guy) on fb.
An apology would be: "On a recent episode of our show we did something very
wrong and very reprehensible. We made a joke out of killing Chinese people.
We made it sound like genocide was in some cases cool and funny. That was
completely unacceptable! It is anathema to everything the USA stands for:
which is that “all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their
Cr... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******n
发帖数: 12623 | 27 你ticket有具体什么罪？infraction还是misdemeanor？谁说不eligible for a trial
by written declaration？除了
misdemeanor和醉酒的罪之外，所有都能选Trial by Written Declaration。
trial |
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h*****u
发帖数: 2648 | 28 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: holdzhu (gogo), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 请教一个traffic trial的问题
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Dec 5 11:46:51 2016, 美东)
本人六月的时候有一个infraction的traffic ticket。于是准备了证据，申请了trial.
但是由于其他事情，错过了trial的时间21天。我看到有form上有$300的额外罚款。请
问除了这300块罚款，还有其他更严重的惩罚吗？请问有额外的补救方法吗？谢谢！！
！ |
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x****t
发帖数: 1729 | 29 2周前在school zone被拍照开29/mph的罚单收到了，124刀，说明不会有record。说有4
个选择，应该选哪个？
1. Pay the penalty
2. Request a mitigation hearing to explain the circumstances
3. Request a hearing to contest the infraction
4. submit a declaration of non-resonsibility
多年第一次被抓，可以怎么求情？网上不是说可以写信么？怎么都是要上庭的hearing
？ |
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B*********e
发帖数: 363 | 30 The cop said that I was driving 50 on 35 mile speed limit. The fine is $154
. I have three options:
1) I have enclosed a check or money order for the amount listed on the front
. I understand this will go on my driviing record.
2) Mitigation Hearing. I agree I have committed the infractions, but I want
a hearing to explain the circumstances. Please send me a court date and I
promise to appear on that date. I know I can ask witnesses to appear but
they are not required to appear. I understa |
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s****a
发帖数: 687 | 31 有什么办法吗？是不是就直接付钱得了。俺就是一个右转弯，因为左边没车，就直接拐
了，没红灯下停一下再转。冤枉呀，不过估计contest是不行的。虽说ticket上说not
be part of driving record, will be processed as a parking infraction.是不是
应该找律师把它打掉，俺第一个ticket呀。 |
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s****a
发帖数: 687 | 32 $124。跟超车罚款一样。找律师是贵点，但是可以保持俺的0ticket清白纪录。不过不
知道这个parking infraction是不是也有纪录。 |
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r*z
发帖数: 377 | 33 不会吧。。。。
我被拍了3次 每次都是75啊。。。。不过我不是在西雅图。。。
这罚单也是双倍啊。。
$124。跟超车罚款一样。找律师是贵点，但是可以保持俺的0ticket清白纪录。不过不
知道这个parking infraction是不是也有纪录。 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 14598 | 34 if so
is it better to choose "mitigation hearing" to commit the infractions
but try to ask for defer or reduce penalty and waiver for the 1st ticket
within 7 years.
if i choose "contested hearing" should I pay extra fee if i lost |
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p**m
发帖数: 3876 | 35 When a traffic ticket is a criminal offense, you can possibly be arrested
and go to jail for speeding violation; however it also means that the
accuser must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you committed the offense,
and you will have your constitutional right to face accuser in a criminal
court, and if the police doesn't show up, your case would be dismissed.
When a ticket is an infraction, you are punished under a civil code and
trialed in a civil court, the police just have to prove its c... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****y
发帖数: 90 | 36 刚刚收到法院的通知。124刀，抢劫呀。被拍照了，在NE 8th St 和143RD AVE NE处说
有个school speed zone。我没到过几次那个地方，也没印象有school speed zone。信
里说不会记点，只作为parking infraction。
各位有没有什么同样的经历？如何减少些罚款？谢谢。 |
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L****y
发帖数: 53 | 37 收到一张notice of infraction. southbound 148th ave NE右转到bel red road的red
light violation. 那个红灯不是红箭头，也不能右转吗？
有人有类似的经历吗？Thanks. |
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s*********t
发帖数: 16647 | 38 u need to stop and make a safe right turn(if u dont know this b4, i
personally feel it might be good 4 u to get this ticket coz it would make u
and others safe in the future,seriously)
usually, ppl stop and go,which is safe and appropriate;but u have to stop "
for a while" at this stop because cops r watching the video cameras to get u
...
dont feel bad, i got the same ticket at the same place one yr ago..just
because i didn't stop for 3 seconds...although no other cars are passing
through.
well... 阅读全帖 |
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L****y
发帖数: 53 | 39 那red light infraction呢？
今天收到一张notice，罚$124，红灯左转被拍了照。
这种情况是不是只有认罚交钱了？（本来就不影响record） |
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q***n
发帖数: 80 | 40 求教有经验的朋友：
车子是一个朋友在开，在WB SE 8th st @143 rd pl SE,车速28. 那个地方好像speed
limit是25？ 说是“The school speed zone is fully posted with school speed
limit signs indicating a 20 mph speed limit when warning lights are flashing
or children are present.” 朋友是外州过来的，不熟悉路，根本没注意到那里有什
么Warning Lights, 说实话我开过那么多次也从来没有注意到这个细节。
发来的Notice of Infraction上面有一个选项是 Declaration
of Non-Responsibility,只要在网站上下载一份表格填好，说明车子当时不是自己在开
，就可以免责。http://kingcounty.gov/courts/DistrictCourt/PhotoEnforcementTickets.aspx (表格在右上角可以下载)
但是表格上让填上开车... 阅读全帖 |
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a*********y
发帖数: 321 | 41 DUI goes on your criminal record, 不是traffic infraction, 懂不？ criminal
record database是national， 明白不？ DUI一次不一定进库， 屡教不改的DUI会进入
你的criminal record. 不懂就闭嘴， 越装越丢人。 |
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s*******n
发帖数: 12995 | 42 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
qqlin (QQ) 于 (Wed Oct 3 21:17:33 2012, 美东) 提到:
求教有经验的朋友：
车子是一个朋友在开，在WB SE 8th st @143 rd pl SE,车速28. 那个地方好像speed
limit是25？ 说是“The school speed zone is fully posted with school speed
limit signs indicating a 20 mph speed limit when warning lights are flashing
or children are present.” 朋友是外州过来的，不熟悉路，根本没注意到那里有什
么Warning Lights, 说实话我开过那么多次也从来没有注意到这个细节。
发来的Notice of Infraction上面有一个选项是 Declaration
of Non-Responsibility,只要在网站上下载一份表格填好，说明车子当时不是自己在开
，就可以免责。ht... 阅读全帖 |
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a******7
发帖数: 96 | 43 在FB上看到的一个评论，你们可以看看，如果有媒体问你们对JK的道歉怎么看，能不能
用上这个思路
Claude Dylan Ferris:
I can’t get over what a complete @#$% this guy is. Saying "I am sorry you
were offended" is not an apology. It's a Passive-Aggressive attack. And
implying that "maybe you didn’t understand because of cultural reasons.’
is rediculous. Every white person watching it knew it was not Condemning
that childs view, but encouraging it. An apology would be: "On a recent
episode of our show we did something very wrong and very reprehensi... 阅读全帖 |
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h***a
发帖数: 1773 | 44 下面是另外一个比较好的网上针对JK的评论， 貌似来自美国本土人士：
Claude Dylan Ferris:
I can’t get over what a complete @#$% this guy is. Saying "I am sorry you
were offended" is not an apology. It's a Passive-Aggressive attack. And
implying that "maybe you didn’t understand because of cultural reasons.’is
rediculous. Every white person watching it knew it was not Condemning
that childs view, but encouraging it. An apology would be: "On a recent
episode of our show we did something very wrong and very reprehensible. We
made a ... 阅读全帖 |
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j***a
发帖数: 21 | 45 刚搜到的Washington State GPS Mounting Regulations。手机更是不让随便用。。。
Windshields
Section 46.37.410 of the RCW prohibits anyone from driving with a GPS device
affixed either permanently or temporarily to the windshield or side windows
of a vehicle that is being driven or operated on public roads in the state
of Washington.
Device Must be Permanently Attached
Section 46.61.668 of the RCW prohibits sending, reading and writing text
messages on a wireless communication device while driving a motor vehicle.
Th... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******e
发帖数: 6 | 46 Fail to stop on stop sign infraction，$124
昨晚在Pacific Xing (加拿大边境)从温哥华回西雅图时，刚Pass边境官，经过几个障
碍物(有意设在那里防止逃跑的)，还看到一辆警车横停在前方。从它前方经过上路，结
果警车追上来给了罚单，说stop sign 没停。夜晚视线不好，干绕又多(之前先走错路
，又倒回来)，不知这个情况能不能contest? 值不值得? |
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J*******e
发帖数: 6 | 47 橫停的警车就是那样的，追上来的猜测是同一辆车，但是天黑看不见。
Ticket 上第一行是:
INFRACTION: v TRAFFIC _ NON-TRAFFIC
Check 的是Traffic, 应该属于Moving Violation 吧? |
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W******r
发帖数: 109 | 48 If you get pulled over, your infraction will be filed as a criminal charge.
Once it becomes a criminal charge, you will have to go to court or they will
put out an arrest warrant which may affect re-entry into the USA in the
future. |
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m*********8
发帖数: 476 | 49 Infraction or dismeanor ?
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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S*********n
发帖数: 92 | 50 谢谢大家！是Infraction
我前面的车开始逆行又跨栏发现前方还是警车就掉头 然后闯红灯跑了，我跟着掉头之
后等红灯的时候被抓，我身后跟着的车看我们掉头见状也很快闯红灯走了，就我在那等
红灯被抓的。。
不知道能罚多少啊？能有300，400？
去法庭就说 当时看到一堆警车在那晃堵着路很confuse，以为是警察引导前面的车那么
走才跟着走的，行吗？
前面的和后面的车都逃了，就我被抓，真倒霉啊 |
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