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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 2 Looks like Ivey is always the winner over Isildur. PA sometimes loses, but
overall a big winner over him, too.
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a*****n
发帖数: 100 | 3 Men和Elves的联盟和Sauron展开血战。双方都死伤无数。最后Sauron单挑Gil-galad和Ele
ndil，并把他们都杀死了。Elendil的宝剑Narsil断在Sauron脚下。但Elendil的儿子Isil
dur用断剑砍下了Sauron的手，也砍下了他的魔戒之王。Sauron于是化为一股烟气逃散了
。(就是电影里面的开场那段)
Elves这边，Gil-galad死之前把他的戒指Vilya交给Elrond。Elrond成了Elves的统帅。El
rond和Cirdan敦促Isildur把魔戒之王扔进Mount doom, 但是Isildur想把它据为己有，拒
绝了Elves.
由于Anarion阵亡(偶哭)，Isildur成了Anor和Gondor的国王。他把Gondor的统治权交给了
Anarion的儿子Meneldil，自己启程去统帅Anor。但是他太不小心了，以为Sauron一灭天
下太平。在路上他遭到了Orcs的伏击，队伍几乎全军覆没，只有两个人逃了出来，到了Ri
vendel把消息带给Elrond. Isildur本人也因为戴上戒指隐身后逃命，跳到河里，戒指 |
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发帖数: 7793 | 4 这个完全和对手有关. 对手水平越高, 一般水平高体现在, bluff more facing
weakness, value bet thinner, can lay down big hands facing strength. 这种对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg 也是), calling shove range is wider than shove range (big leak), 当然主动shove好. 毕竟一般Isildur不会坐在我们对面.
Galfond 的key read to make his decision here
1) Isildur bluffs 50% with busted draw here.
2) Isildur is capable of laying down small flush here if shoved to, but would shove small flush for value if checked to (真高手啊)
Not many people can d... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 5 Variance is part of the game, especially at higher stakes. If you can't
accept the variance,then it's not your game. Isildur was up about 3.7m until
August. I'm not sure about august and September, if you are, plz post the
link.
Archie Karas is different, he lost all his money by playing dice. Of course,
he is a great poker player. But playing dice is just suicide. I don't see
how this has anything to do with isildur, does he play dice as well?
Sure he may go broke in the future. Wall street ba... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 6 Variance is part of the game, especially at higher stakes. If you can't
accept the variance,then it's not your game. Isildur was up about 3.7m until
August. I'm not sure about august and September, if you are, plz post the
link.
Archie Karas is different, he lost all his money by playing dice. Of course,
he is a great poker player. But playing dice is just suicide. I don't see
how this has anything to do with isildur, does he play dice as well?
Sure he may go broke in the future. Wall street ba... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 8 你的说法是对的。如果你对对手有足够的read，比如你知道他水平很一般，river only
shove with absolute nuts，在这个情况下是boat+，那你bet small的策略没有错。
我们现在考虑更general的情况。比如flop出来 AA2 rainbow， 你是preflop raiser
with AK。我们来看应该bet多大。你说的所有理由都是成立的，就是对手基本没什么牌
，如果他有A你总能赢钱。
但是，如果我们考虑“balancing your betting rang”的话，我们就会有新的思路。
这个pot我的想法是pot flop， pot turn，shove river。显然如果你每次这么做都是
AK+的话，对手能轻松fold。但是如果你mix with air呢？通过计算，在flop 上的
optimal play （注意optimal play的定义不是max EV，是纳什均衡解）你大概能mix
70%的air。在turn 上你大概还能mix 50%的air，在river 大概还能mix 30%左右的air
。显然如果对手每次都call到底... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 9 这个就像老邱一直说汪峰打得好，galphond玩plo赢了isildur几十万以后一直说
isildur打plo进步神速是个天才。
要是我每天输个十万给ivey，保证他天天在夸我打得好 |
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a*****n
发帖数: 100 | 10 Numenor沉没后，只有忠诚一族逃了出来。Elendil带着他的两个儿子Isildur和Anarion以
及手下的人马坐船来到了Middle earth, 同时也带来了Numenor里很多珍贵的物品，包括
各类历史文卷，金银珠宝，Valinor的Elves赠送给他们的七块Palantiri魔石，还有象征V
alinor的白树的种子，等等等等。
Elendil到达Middle
earth后受到当地Elves国王Gil-galad的热情欢迎，他们就开始在Middle earth建立国家
了。
Elendil在北方建立了Anor国，在南方建立了Gondor。他们修造了很多美丽的城市和宏伟
的建筑。Minas Ithil, Minas Anor,
Osgiliath等城市都是在这个时期修造的。在Argonath, 他们修造了两尊巨大的石雕像(就
是在电影里面Frodo在河口看到的巨像)，象征了Isildur和Anarion. 他们兄弟俩分享父亲
Elendil的帝国。在Anor和Gondor, 他们的王冠都并列地放在一起。
而这个时候Sauron异常的愤怒。因为他发现他呆在Numenor的时 |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 11 是Isildur和Anarion,Elendil的两个儿子.
可看电影,两个雕像年纪相差很大啊.
会不会是Elendil和Anarion的误会啊,因为两个人都是
在Last Alliance和sauron的战斗中死掉的.
引文如下:
Elendil在北方建立了Anor国，在南方建立了Gondor。他们修造了很多美丽的城市和宏伟
的建筑。Minas Ithil, Minas Anor,
Osgiliath等城市都是在这个时期修造的。在Argonath, 他们修造了两尊巨大的石雕像(就
是在电影里面Frodo在河口看到的巨像)，象征了Isildur和Anarion. 他们兄弟俩分享父亲
Elendil的帝国。在Anor和Gondor, 他们的王冠都并列地放在一起。 |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 12 lol 看这个帖子橡树战群雄，感觉有点像前两年poker届Isildur同时挑战天下顶尖高手
，每天几个米的swing, 来者不拒。 |
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t*****s
发帖数: 1240 | 13 An Unstoppable Force Meets...
It’s been a while since I’ve written a blog post. Poker hasn’t really
picked up any for me, but I felt like I should keep writing in this blog and
try my best to keep it alive in some way. Today I’m going to sell out a
bit and write not about myself, but about online poker and recent events. My
topic is vague enough that this post may wander through different topics,
but it will be centered around Isildur and his recent appearance in high
stakes online poker. It is |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 14 这个系列很神奇啊。
我怀疑Isildur有一个很牛的软件， 打个近千手之后就能把对手分析的89不离10;不或
者就是ftp请来作弊的， 不然也太离谱了。 |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 15 full tilt. $1.5M in play |
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a*****r
发帖数: 19 | 17 It seems that ivey is the winner tonight. They were playing 3 500/1000 NLHE
tables. I think the initial buyin is
600k (200k on each table) and ivey ended up around 1.7m in total. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 20 isn't isildur1 broke already? |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 22 in a way, chris Ferguson is a much better player than isilder1.
isilder1 is just a telented poker player who has no idea of bank roll
management and tilt control . those player are nicle and dimes. A lot of
player put too much weight on how to outplay opponents and overlook the
important factor of these fundamental aspects.
chris Ferguson is really good at this. I still get over the factor that he
won one hand in this year's million dollar cash game and immediately walk
away, hit and run with... 阅读全帖 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 23 1167 of 2500 hands, isildur领先104k...daniel不会multitable... |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 24 isildur is such a luck box! |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 25 1500hand不到就挂了...daniel作为ps第一大明星颜面何存啊...啥时候isildur杀回FT
去durrrr challenge 3? |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 26 分析的不错，这个vid对我启发很大，river 的那部分看了好几遍。 我在打 Hu碰
到这种情况时，除非对手经常喜欢shove/overbet missed draw,经常是主动shove 的，
担心对手那得是的有showdown value 的牌，check behind, 怕miss value. 另外，主
动shove 更像一个missed draw. 看来，跟真正的高手过招，思路的确是不同。
另外一个就是要搞清自己rep 的range, 和我们分析的对手的range. 加上对手的
tendency, 作出最优化的river decision.
对手check call 可能更有优势, 平时我们见到的鱼都是又松又软(其实有些weak reg
也是), calling shove range is wider than shove range (big leak), 当然主动
shove好. 毕竟一般Isildur不会坐在我们对面.
would shove small flush for value if checked to (真高手啊)
check... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 27 omg u still do not know isildur learned from fryking? |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 30 this is too old. And so made up... |
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 31 Eventually got time to read these. LMAO.
same |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 神马都是浮云，今天的风云人物，不光是它，还有isildur，durrrr, phil，等等，真
不知道有几个能笑到最后的。
象doyle这样的，玩了一辈子牌，名利双收，有钱投资其他产业的真赢家，少而又少。 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 33 3bet 说一下
2%的3bet range已经好久好久没有见到到过了……如果我后面坐了一个3bet 2%的人，
我co和bu会open 100%的牌。
3bet 并不是越高越好，postflop skill edge越大，3bet就应该越低。假设我能看到对
手的底牌，我的3bet一定很接近0。两个我觉得打得很好的人leatherass和yourdoom
3bet都很低（不到7%）。
很高的3bet有利于在postflop有劣势的情况下减小对手的优势。另外一方面，如果对手
技术很好的话，一般在有position的情况下是不会fold的，比如Dwan和Ivey，几乎不会
在有position的时候fold to 3bet。至于像isildur的疯狗一样的打法的话，连没有
position都不会fold……
所以3bet太高其实没什么必要，尤其3bet高vpip低的话更加就是浪费了
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 34 晚上家里太热睡不着，就随便逛逛2+2，感觉最近2+2水平下降了不少。small stake讨
论区以前常见的鞭辟入里的分析现在几乎看不见。有个帖子问新人玩cash game应该看
点什么书。然后有人回复说像Doyle Brunson的书的tight aggressive是old game了，
已经过时了云云。然后我就回复了“呵呵”
我一直觉得像Johnny Chen和Doyle Brunson现在仍旧是最好的牌手。不管是tournament
还是cash game能打赢他们的没几个。看high stake poker里面Brunson几乎每季都赢钱
。Chen在第七季OOP的情况下照样打爆Galfond。现在风头最劲的几个人当中能和他们相
提并论的也就Ivey和Isildur。像Dwan 和 patric antonius 的tournament严重短板，
至于negreanu和hellmuth的cash game就是搞笑。（如果让Dr. Giggy或者leatherass和
Negreanu玩cash game的话，前两个人应该会赢得非常轻松。）即使是Dwan和Galfond对
Br... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 35 I actually don't agree.
If you can pay $2000 to play basketball with Michael Jordan, will you do it?
I definitely will.
If Isildur offers playing NL200 HU, I will be thrilled to play with him.
their
get |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 36 It's very naive for us to judge Isildur, who is considered as one of the
best by Dwan and Galfond. But if he also select opponents strictly, and only
playing with fish on PS, I think he is still grinding NL100 now, and of
course, "keeps his winning".
Reality is, this "bad poker player who can't keep his winning" has already
made over 4m this year. Maybe that's not a lot money to you, but I think
most likely that's more than I can make from my poker life.
take |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 37 IMO,playing for challenge may be very similar to playing for ego. Isildur
will play HU with anyone in this world. He may not think he has edge over
durrrr or ivey, but he does not think he is an underdog either, for sure.
His earning in his bank account is enough for his living expenses, the rest
of it is for working, not for spending. You can say playing a player without
edge is gambling, but what is wrong with it?
Playing for money will avoid stronger players, players on the same level, or
pla... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 38 I actually don't agree.
If you can pay $2000 to play basketball with Michael Jordan, will you do it?
I definitely will.
If Isildur offers playing NL200 HU, I will be thrilled to play with him.
their
get |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 39 It's very naive for us to judge Isildur, who is considered as one of the
best by Dwan and Galfond. But if he also select opponents strictly, and only
playing with fish on PS, I think he is still grinding NL100 now, and of
course, "keeps his winning".
Reality is, this "bad poker player who can't keep his winning" has already
made over 4m this year. Maybe that's not a lot money to you, but I think
most likely that's more than I can make from my poker life.
take |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 40 IMO,playing for challenge may be very similar to playing for ego. Isildur
will play HU with anyone in this world. He may not think he has edge over
durrrr or ivey, but he does not think he is an underdog either, for sure.
His earning in his bank account is enough for his living expenses, the rest
of it is for working, not for spending. You can say playing a player without
edge is gambling, but what is wrong with it?
Playing for money will avoid stronger players, players on the same level, or
pla... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 41 Isildur is bomb too.
I wish I was described as bomb |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 42 快不快无所谓的，关键是最后能站的多高
如果poker god告诉我这辈子最多打赢Nl200，那我立刻不打了，干点其他什么不好。
isildur比我年轻，所以希望有朝一日能在单挑桌上干掉他 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 43 Yeah, I didn't post all the information about the villain, since that's too
much and not relevant to the topic. As long as you know villain is very good
in 3b pot (so I didn't 3b preflop), that's good enough.
Again, this post is not about optimizing the play in this pot (which is
highly based on villain's and my image, thus won't be too helpful either to
you or to me even if I post here), it's about "make mistakes when they are
cheap".
Thanks for your remind about the ego problem. It is very dan... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 44 Patrik Antonius 有秃头吗？ 感觉很manly 哦。 其实isildur看上去倒好像网上打牌
太多，鲁冠过度也。 你觉得呢？ |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 45 This is an OK standard for a successful grinder.
It has nothing to do with "扑克水平".
A local 1/2 live player can beat me, then he has higher 扑克水平 in live
game than me. If I go back play NL2 right now, I might end up losing, which
means those players have higher 扑克水平 in NL2 games.
Different type of poker games needs different types of 扑克水平. No one
dares to claim that he can beat isildur in holdem, but a lot people take him
as ATM in PLO8. It is that simple.
mm, you seems to have more serious ego pr... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 46 Overbet is very very very powerful, yet rarely seen in low stakes games.
If you watch the videos of top NLHM players, Dwan, isildur,Ivey, Galphond,
Ziigmund, they overbet a lot.
on
river?)
need |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 47 This really depends on your postflop skill.
Dwan will call 3b OOP with 8Ts, Isildur will call with 8To, I will probably
fold AQo |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 48 The biggest leak of small stakes players is that they watch too much high
stakes poker.
I played this hand about an hour ago.
Fold to button, who is a winning reg steal about 60% at button. He folds to
3bet about 54%, i.e, he calls with a lot of trash and tries to outplay his
opponents with position. He is a very good player in this level. But his
range is just so weak.
I was SB with TcQc. I 3bet for value. BB folded, Button called.
Flop came 8c Jd 3c. I cbet 2/3 pot, planning to shove against a... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 49 同意。所以越是high stake越是适合donk。因为donk自己fearless所以可以利用别人对
钱的恐惧感来赢钱。比如每次都猛打。成千上万刀的锅。别人没有two-pair以上的牌力
没法call。这和牌技无关。isildur钱多胆大，所以他可以生生把Ivey打成scared
money。牌打成这个样子，基本上就是metagame。两个人往悬崖飙车，谁先停谁输。要
是换成1/2。谁都不鸟你。call to keep u honest。谁管你在represent什么牌。 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 50 这个道理说起来容易但是做起来很难。比如我虽然知道这个strategy绝对是正确的，但
是当我在bovada上开始run bad的时候（比如现在），就会不由自主的减小bet size，
牺牲win rate来减小variance。我还仅仅是在玩NL200，如果在更高的级别，面对更强
的对手势必会有更大的variance，而且涉及的钱也更多，就更难了。
所以你看isildur一个波动几百万，其实真心不大。他玩比如NL40k的级别，一百万不过
是30个buy-in。考虑到他疯狗一样的打法，而且还多是单挑，其实他的variance比
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