c********d
发帖数: 11593 | 1 是的，很惨。还有他妈妈到处找他，鬼使神差地走过了他所有遇害的地方，最终在井边
找到的那段。她每走到一个地方就呼唤儿子回答她，那种情状动人心魄。
所以我起初考古的动机，其实就是不太甘心于周作人说这事儿是瞎编的。因为这童谣真
是又凄惨又可怕。
但是后来看了wiki才发现，童谣就是整件事情中最打动人的文字。看到那修士跳出来绘
声绘色地叙述小休受难记，感觉出戏再出戏。还有其它犹太人因为抄没家产的新法令出
台而受株连，让我只觉得吃人血馒头还真是普世现象啊，这还是英国王室，吃相不是一
般的难看~~~
blood libel本身未必事出无因。考虑到当时的宗教矛盾，犹太人当中出几个变态拿基
督徒的孩子撒气也不是不可能。即便现在的天朝，什么婴儿体内发现缝衣针啦，小男孩
被恶伯母挖去眼睛啦，不都是私仇导致的报复么。不过说犹太人惯于拿基督徒小孩上演
耶稣受难记、杀一个小孩还有N多人去观礼，有点太假了…… |
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发帖数: 6113 | 2 Release这样写就可以吗？在dpcorner上搜到的。
Property Release
For valuable consideration herein acknowledged as received, the undersigned
being the legal owner of, or having the right to permit the taking and use
of photographs of certain property designated as:
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
does grant to photographer’s name goes here his/her agents or assigns, the
full rights to use such photograp... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4134 | 3 不是我写的哦，只是在SCIENCE网站上面看到了
其中几点还是可信的。连一个美国人都会觉得肖是个不自私的人，不过也有可能美国人
好骗一些吧。
另外肖试着在各处用法律武器来攻击方都失败了，不是官司失败，而是看起来方都是采
用回避的战术，不明白如果不是因为理亏的话就不能跟他对簿公堂吗
Over the past few days, I have only slept three hours each day and have read
a lot online about Dr. Xiao and Mr. Fang. I feel that it is my obligation
to let the world know what kind of person Dr. Xiao is.
I frankly tell everyone that I make friends only with those who are
unselfish and care about others. Even though we are friends from the same
school or s... 阅读全帖 |
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X*****e
发帖数: 390 | 4 下面这篇文章登在《纽约时报》上，讲到小费是怎么来的，并称付小费为一silly fad。
Letters From Readers on Various Timely Topics
SUGGESTIONS ON TIPPING---Why Tipping Is A Silly Fad
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To the Editor of The New York Times:
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA071FFB3B5D127
In your issue of this morning your clever writer of "Topics of the Times"
makes reference to a dispatch from New York to The London Telegraph, wherein
it is asserted that "tipping has become a fixed custom in this city." This
correspondent of the Lon... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 400 | 5 O Liberté, que de crimes on commet en ton nom!
(Oh Liberty, what crimes are committed in thy name!)
- Madame Roland
主题概括：“程序正义”比“结果正义”重要，长远更利于国家发展！
（先说下我的背景：美国本科在读，毕业后不准备继续科研，也不会回国，和方舟子基
本没什么利益冲突，仅对社会现象发表下个人看法。）
一、 动机不是一切
看到版上有人问：方舟子打假，为什么会有人反对？我回答：你有一个pure motive并
不代表你做的事情就是对了！事实上犯罪分子justify自己的犯罪动机很多听起来都很
冠冕堂皇：替天行道、必须复仇要不然正义没法得到伸张、是整个社会的不公平造成了
我今天的犯罪行动… —— 我提醒大家：“动机是否良好和做事带来的效果没有必然关
系”，很多人反对方舟子不是反对他的社会正义感，而是他做事过程，和最终的社会结
果。
目前国内造假猖獗，大家病急四处寻找无方，这时候有人站出来愿意用猛药治病，大家
纷纷鼓掌。于是方舟子在大家一片喝彩声中，四面出击，闻到一... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******e
发帖数: 6482 | 6 在美国公众人物的Libel有不同标准。
所以狗仔猖狂，
但大家也都知道他们没什么信誉。
如果你真有兴趣可以研究一下
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发帖数: 222 | 7 未必如此吧。诽谤罪的举证责任好像是一个复杂的问题。比如在英国法律中，责任在被
告。
However, the common law of libel reverses the traditional positions
somewhat: a defamatory statement is presumed to be false, unless the
defendant can prove its truth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law#Burden_of_p
国内的不清楚，下面这个不权威，但是可以看看。
因为法律审判一个基本原则是：以事实为依据，以法律为准绳。法律要判定是否有罪，
要有切实的事实根据。在诽谤罪中，所谓的“事实”是被告说出的，每个人都应当遵守
诚实这个最起码的道德准则，要对自己的话语负责，即所言必须一事实为依据，否则法
律就缺少判定有罪与否的依据，无法形成一个逻辑上自圆其说的判定。
第二，如果由原告来证明诽谤内容的真伪，那就违背了刑事诉讼中无罪推定的原则。
第三，事实上如由原告来证明诽... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1637 | 8 从你的头象，不象是位男生，怎么男生韩寒骂女人的三字经学那么好？ 你如此毫无任
何证据人生攻击许多人毛不毛，别人可以仿照你的偶像韩某，来个class suit for
libel.
。。。，他妈的。。。。。 |
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w*l
发帖数: 2550 | 9 Urologist Arrested for Attacks on Chinese Whistleblowers
by Hao Xin on 23 September 2010, 11:00 AM
BEIJING—The police bureau here announced Tuesday evening that they have
detained the suspected mastermind behind assaults on China's science
misconduct watchdog Fang Shimin (aka Fang Zhouzi) and journalist Fang
Xuanchang. (The two Fangs are not related.)
Earlier on 21 September, police detained Xiao Chuanguo, chief urology
surgeon at the Tongji Hospital affiliated with Huazhong University of
Scien... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2939 | 10 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
onionball (辣球) 于 (Sun Jan 29 12:53:42 2012, 美东) 提到:
方到现在没有证据说是代笔，难道不是活该输官司
韩寒为啥要拿出手稿来对证？
不管韩寒是不是有代笔问题，官司上我支持韩寒，不然按照方舟子这种没证据就咬得疯
狗搞法，中国各界还不早晚一团混水人人自危？
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lanhua (慢炖土豆) 于 (Sun Jan 29 13:06:14 2012, 美东) 提到:
难道现在不是么？
“不然按照方舟子这种没证据就咬得疯
狗搞法，中国各界还不早晚一团混水人人自危？”
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wesley (向左向右) 于 (Sun Jan 29 19:22:06 2012, 美东) 提到:
你分不清诽谤和质疑。方舟子已经拿出了一堆基于事实的质疑，形成了一个证据链。怎么
说没有证据呢？
现在中国的公众人物缺少的恰恰是... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 24893 | 11 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: USANews
标 题: 真正的美国新闻：让美国蒙羞的新闻
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Feb 7 23:51:09 2013, 美东)
From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281
I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from
media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and
have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are
saying to yourself that this is completely out of chara... 阅读全帖 |
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h**o
发帖数: 1879 | 12 先贴再看。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure
Public figure
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
In United States law, public figure is a term applied in the context of
defamation actions (libel and slander) as well as invasion of privacy. A
public figure (such as a politician, celebrity, or business leader) cannot
base a sample on incorrect harmful statements unless there is proof that the
writer or publisher acted with actual malice (knowledge of falsity or
reck... 阅读全帖 |
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c******n
发帖数: 455 | 13 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
hguo (Who+am+I?) 于 (Mon Apr 8 09:23:28 2013, 美东) 提到:
先贴再看。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure
Public figure
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
In United States law, public figure is a term applied in the context of
defamation actions (libel and slander) as well as invasion of privacy. A
public figure (such as a politician, celebrity, or business leader) cannot
base a sample on incorrect harmful statements unless... 阅读全帖 |
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p********7
发帖数: 18007 | 14 This is exactly doable, and WSN here should stop libeling Hui Min (muslim)
as a starter! |
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x*******i
发帖数: 48 | 15 你让个小孩上电视来一句“杀光犹太人”试试？
一纸诉状把你电视台告到联邦法院
违背宪法十四条修正案 14th amendment
种族歧视罪反人类罪 racial discrimination and antihuman
诽谤罪libel and slander
教唆儿童，违犯联邦教育法等等
主持人坐牢加道歉
群众游行示威给法院施加压力
那还来什么可笑的请愿？？
现在人家一个模棱两可的道歉就完事了
心里不笑你是软蛋SB才怪 |
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y*****d
发帖数: 4451 | 16 libel slander区别都没弄懂就哇哇哇，赶紧洗洗睡 |
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发帖数: 266 | 17 > 这些都是欧洲的吧，欧洲很多国家有hate speech law，比如法国这些诉讼可行。所以
起诉都在在欧洲法庭上的。美国没有对应的hate speech law，而且有第一修正案，这
个真告几乎不可能。
也许在欧洲起诉会容易些， 而且我们完全可以在法国起诉。Disney 在 巴黎郊区就有
theme park.
国际上，对hate speech 的intolerance：
（1） The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)
states that "any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that
constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be
prohibited by law". [1]
（2）The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discriminatio... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 129 | 18 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/11/jimmel-kim
China-born New Jersey resident says he suffers emotional distress since skit
aired.
(Photo: AP)
Story Highlights
A skit on Kimmel's late-night show featured a child suggesting killing
everyone in China as solution to the U.S. debt problem
Cao Guoliang alleges negligence and infliction of emotional distress in
lawsuit
Lawsuit says Kimmel failed to suppress 'hateful and offensive remark'
SHARE 6 CONNECT 26 TWEET 1 COMMENTEMAILMORE
NEW... 阅读全帖 |
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t******n
发帖数: 2939 | 19 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
lookacar (周末湖心赏码农) 于 (Thu Sep 19 13:07:39 2013, 美东) 提到:
建立一个超级帝国不是梦想。毕竟李白都是吉尔吉斯斯坦人。
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chasingyou (RUinlove) 于 (Thu Sep 19 18:19:44 2013, 美东) 提到:
我共肯定不行啊...改变政体还差不多
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IdlerLestat (Shrike) 于 (Thu Sep 19 18:32:57 2013, 美东) 提到:
自从西域伊斯兰化了以后，中亚那地方就是负资产。
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Haar (Haar) 于 (Thu Sep 19 20:21:56 2013, 美东) 提到:
把印度人杀光了才是当务之急
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s*****o
发帖数: 1121 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: sapporo (sapporo), 信区: Military
标 题: 泪流满面：华人大妈太有正义感了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 28 18:49:16 2016, 美东)
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2099575&forumpage=1
版面： Suggestions意见和建议
作者：ytwk
标题：chali1234大字报华人id, 人身攻击
内容：
每逢看到坑王发帖，chali1234 id的跟帖就会不出意外的出现。这些回帖大多不是就事
论是讨论问题，而是把在外面收集到的未经证实的信息拿来羞辱坑王以达到封口的目的
。如果有旁人看不惯，就恶语相向。我们大家可能都厌恶坑王的个人生活方式或不喜欢
他在论坛上说的话，但这种对坑王着迷般的尾随骚扰纠缠不休已构成cyberstalking。
坑王如果违反版规可以举报，这样没完没了的跟踪揭丑甚至发专帖针对某个id有违华人
不许"大字报华人id，挑衅，人身攻击，暴露他人隐私，人肉他人生活中真实的... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 82482 | 23 In United States law, public figure is a term applied in the context of
defamation actions (libel and slander) as well as invasion of privacy. A
public figure (such as a politician, celebrity, or business leader) cannot
base a lawsuit on incorrect harmful statements unless there is proof that
the writer or publisher acted with actual malice (knowledge of falsity or
reckless disregard for the truth).[1] The burden of proof in defamation
actions is higher in the case of a public figure.
A fairly h... 阅读全帖 |
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P*****t
发帖数: 4978 | 24 Arizona state Sen. Lori Klein is Herman Cain’s Arizona state chairman and
also the sinking candidate’s single best asset. If I were him, I’d
immediately start booking Klein on cable TV as a campaign surrogate, because
her impressive spin work is right now being sadly wasted.
Lori Klein, an Arizona state Senator and Cain’s Arizona state chairman,
told CBS News she stands by Cain.
Says she has known him for 12 years and he’s “never been anything but
a gentlemen – and I am not an unattracti... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****u
发帖数: 17243 | 25 对“吃饱了没事干”的最好诠释
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/saudi-prince-forbes-ri
LONDON, June 7 (Reuters) - Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal has
sued Forbes magazine for libel in a British court, alleging its valuation of
his wealth at $20 billion was short of the mark by $9.6 billion, Britain's
Guardian newspaper reported on Friday.
The prince, a grandson of Saudi Arabia's founder and nephew of King Abdullah
, had attacked the U.S. magazine's ranking of world billionaires as flawed
and... 阅读全帖 |
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b******n
发帖数: 2212 | 26 恩
斑竹辛苦
沒有规矩不成方圆
立要早立
真要立規矩，斑竹最难当
你要仔细想想就和supreme court cases一样
时间长了，那麼多consideration, justification, lines, standards,
freedom of speech, personal attack, mere opinions on a class of ppl,
unfounded opinions, libel, comments
some find repulsive while others find persuasive
很難划線
比如wolf的女權言論，有人覺得是性別攻擊，有人覺得很有道理
從立規矩起，斑竹就要有大量工作了
會經常有人挑戰rules as applied
＊＊＊
輸入法又發瘋了
誰能告我macpro那個簡體輸入法為甚麼經常freeze？ |
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b******n
发帖数: 2212 | 27 他看我好欺负呗
我也在花生奔过
咱们还是有区别的啊
我多长了几寸腿，但是pp没你翘
你应该告他libel |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 28 Orthography is very important for educated English speakers, however,
it seems not the case for Chinese speakers.
English has a large vocabulary, enables a huge gamut of
subtleties in choosing the right word. Choosing the right word requires
knowledge and education, for example, slander and libel, the difference
enable the user to understand some legal concept. Without some history
knowledge, you cannot use "pirates", "corsair", "privateer", and
"bucaneer" correctly. Without the knowledge of ge |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 29 翻自 Letter to a Christian Nation by Sam Harris
http://www.amazon.com/Letter-Christian-Nation-Sam-Harris/dp/030
為上帝做好事
那人們以上帝之名做好事又怎麼說？許多人因為信仰而做出英雄式的犧牲來減輕他人的
痛苦，這是無庸置疑的；但是真的需要相信一些沒有足夠證據的事情才能做出這種事嗎
？如果同情心真的是建立在宗教教條上的，那我們怎麼解釋非宗教醫生在戰火蹂躪的開
發中國家所做的工作？許多醫生只是單純的想去減輕人類苦難而沒有想到上帝。當然基
督教會也是想要去減輕人類苦難，但是他們做這工作的時候夾帶著一些危險與離間人群
的神話，傳教士在開發中國家浪費很多的時間與金錢(其中包含著一些非基督徒的好心)
來勸需要幫助的人入教，他們散佈對避孕及性病的不正確資訊，他們保留正確的資訊。
雖然傳教士冒著自己人身的做很多高尚的事情，他們的教條仍然讓他們散佈無知與死亡
；相對來說，像『無疆界醫生』這樣的非宗教組織不浪費時間去述說耶穌是處女生的，
他們也不會在愛滋每年殺死四百萬的撒哈拉以南的非洲傳播使用保險套... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 30 In fact, all are commanded to repent and turn to Christ. As Paul declared on
Mars' Hill in Athens, God "commandeth all men everywhere to repent" (Acts 1
7:30). To say that God commands men to do what they cannot do without His gr
ace, then withholds the grace they need and punishes them eternally for fail
ing to obey, is to make a mockery of God's Word, of His mercy and love, and
is to libel His character. Rather than affirming any inability, the psalmist
declares, "The wicked, through the pride... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4956 | 31 Dave Hunt's Response to James White
Hunt, Dave
May 15, 2002
James, you and I have agreed on the phone today to put this debate in writin
g in the form of a book with a publisher agreeable to us both. That will all
ow the arguments to be studied more carefully by readers than is possible in
oral debates. We will both do our best to complete it as quickly as possibl
e (though I have a busy travel and speaking schedule as you do also). The pu
blisher wants to go to press in September. That’s f... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8336 | 32 只因伤在最痛处—犹太民族为何不信耶稣？
文章来源: 陈庆真, 2001-9-26
犹太民族对基督教的误解、排斥，与整个民族难以愈合的伤痛有关。
伤痛难愈合
在海外的华人，特别是居住在美国东部及中西部的，多少会在生活及工作中接触到犹太
人或犹裔美国人。相处久了，发现他们极大多数不信基督教。他们至多承认耶稣是个好
老师，但绝非他们旧约圣经（犹太人称之为Torah）所预言的“弥赛亚”（救世主）。
我不免纳闷：耶稣不是犹太人吗？耶稣的门徒不也全是犹太人吗？新约的作者，除路加
医生外，不也是清一色的犹太人吗？甚至早期教会的成员，也大都为犹太人。那麽，为
什麽连我们这些被犹太人视为“外邦人”（Gentiles）的，都相信耶稣基督是弥赛亚，
是真神的儿子，而犹太人却反而拒绝呢？犹太人不原是橄榄树上的“好枝子”吗？（参
《罗》11:17-24）
十九世纪末开始，欧洲各国的排犹运动，导致大量犹太人移入美国，集中居住在东部的
纽约、波士顿、费城及中西部的芝加哥、圣路易等大城。他们的入迁逐渐破坏了原本以
基督徒为主，天主教徒为副的宗教平衡，遂引起社会上的反犹思想。及至目前，断断续
续反犹的活动，已自 台面转... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 50 | 33 在美国每个人都有free speech的权利，但是涉及到libel，你就等着法庭给你定罪吧。
去指控别人却不拿证据，唯一的解释就是这个人有病。 |
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k****a
发帖数: 7077 | 34 说中国人很反犹，真他妈搞笑。中国有很多人崇犹就提都不提了。
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/whats-up-with-t
It’s been an interesting week or two for Jews. Mel Gibson’s new film, “
The Beaver,” opens nationwide in theaters and Jews must decide whether to
pay good money to see a movie starring someone whose father is a Holocaust
denier, and who has himself vilified Jews in public. In Cannes, the Danish
movie director Lars von Trier rambles on at a press conference about
sympathizing with Hitler, being annoyed w... 阅读全帖 |
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d*b
发帖数: 21830 | 35 大奶爆教授？不想活了？再说大奶怎么知道人是靠操b拿funding的？这种事涉及到钱,
会被陪审团认为是libel。 |
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B****a
发帖数: 1526 | 36 一直不明白，这种事在美国可以直接对新语丝file libel lawsuit吧？尤其是发文的还
都是匿名/假名。 |
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t**********m
发帖数: 205 | 37 Official Statement： The Journal of Cosmology,
Have the Terrorists Won?
Only a few crackpots and charlatans have denounced the Hoover study. NASA's
chief scientist was charged with unprofessional conduct for lying publicly
about the Journal of Cosmology and the Hoover paper. The same crackpots,
self-promoters, liars, and failures, are quoted repeatedly in the media.
However, where is the evidence the Hoover study is not accurate?
Few legitimate scientists have come forward to contest Hoover's fin... 阅读全帖 |
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y******6
发帖数: 60 | 38 Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship. The
term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any
act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of
the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute
in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on
libel, slander, obscenity, incitement to commit a crime, etc. |
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V******9
发帖数: 1281 | 39 小叶的事好像不了了之了。偶听说英国有个Libel Law很偏向诉讼人。因为
"A defamatory statement is presumed to be false, unless the defendant can
prove its truth." 当年英国某刊物攻击麦当劳食品就被老麦诉了，而且赢了。
这事得小叶起诉(for defamation)，国内人（律师）帮忙。偶脚着饶毅可以协助一下（
听说饶毅常在这儿深海作业）。 可以先通告NATURE我们要诉。IT会选择 撤稿择或私了。
Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law |
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D**********s
发帖数: 320 | 40 1. He has to prove what you said is false.
2. He also needs to prove that you are being negligent.
3. Your communication with his collegues might be privileged if you and he
are working for the same company and the matter concerns his professional du
ty.
It's always difficult to sue for libel. Don't worry about it too much. |
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 41 Truth is a defense in private defamation, which is your case. So as long as you don't lie, I don't see how you can be liable for libel.
==== This is not legal advice. You are not my client and your problem is not
mine. === |
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 42 If the plaintiff is a public figure, the burden is on the plaintiff to show
the statement is false.
If the plaintiff is not (which is the case here), then the burden is on the
defendant, as an affirmative defense, to show that the statement is true.
Either way, mere insult is not libel. |
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j*******g
发帖数: 188 | 45 It sounds more like invasion of privacy rather than libel.
One problem of this case is the actual damage, which normally is a
requirement for cases like this.
The other problem might be that you, as the plaintiff who file the civil
suit, has the burden to prove your case. This means that you have to pay the
litigation cost out of your own pocket, which likely cannot be compensated
from the defendant even if you finally win the case. |
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gg
发帖数: 28 | 46 一个以前认识的人，因为一些矛盾，写信到我的email信箱
用恶劣的语言诋毁我，和我的妻子。这种行为是否严重到
能够用法律来保护自己？如果可能，请大概说下我应该怎么
处理？
多谢。 |
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