s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 1 今天第一桌/刚开始, 太多Limpin, 我都是浪牌. 对这种limpin, 只有call.
有一次3X at btn, called by BB and limper (only fold 1/2 pot at flop).
因为太多的TAG, 对我这种打垃圾牌,还没想到啥办法. 有谁指一二? |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 2 Since the opp call on turn, TP is not good anymore. But tough to laydown. I
had one similar today.
I 4.5X on limpin(EP) w/ A8o. BB call and EP call.
FLop: A23. BB bet 2BB and EP call, I 4X(too small). BB fold and EP called.
Turn, 4. EP allin. I know I am dead (ace is there and he allin. He is not a
moron, so I am beaten). but still call. EP had 44.
Some time, things just ran bad. Today I play one MTT (hop in late). First hand, I have AA. EP 4.5X on afront limpin, I 2.5X further at MP. All fold t |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 3 Ring Game, NL50 5-Card, 6-handed
1) UTG+1 with flush.
UTG limpin, UTG+1/Me 3X, BTN call, SB fold, BB 4X(24BB)
- I small raise to let ppl draw dead with made flush. Well there comes one
fish
UTG+1, 2X, BB allin, UTG+1 call
UTG change two.
Final, UTG has Quad Ace. Well UTG has triple ace on hand. He has 6% to make
full
and 4% to make quad.
This is not too bad. The second one is really bad
1) UTG, me
UTG limpin, SB call, BB check
SB change 3, BB change 2, UTG change 1
SB pot, BB fold, UTG made ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 4 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 哎 降级 ye much much DRAMA.
Today, RUSH PLO25, UTG limpin, UTG+1(me) limpin, MP 3BB (others fold).
Flop, all-low cards
UTG+1 get made low-end straight + babe flush draw
UTG+1 hit low set
MP hit made hi-end straight
UTG+1, check
UTG+2, check
MP , 2/3 pot
UTG+1, Max
UTG+2, raise with allin
MP, UTG+1, call/allin
MP holds. DRAMA flop and each has roughly 1/3 chance. |
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m******1
发帖数: 715 | 5 I have great respect to Sklansky's theory. But games are not exactly the
same with online, 6-max, PL, CAP,etc. More importantly, the players are
having different perspectives, too. Most people play these micro and small
stack do not expect make a living on it.
Bottom line, theory aside, go plug-in and play you will see what work. 77 (
and other small pairs) in early position is a good example. You will find
out which is more profitable by playing 50% limpin and 50% raise-in, after
probably |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 6 open raise with A5s at EP is aggressive and I still feel uncomfortable about
that. So I usually fold some and limp some. But there's a problem with that
too. opponents would figure out my range easily: early position limp in
means small pair or Ax suited, hehe. And they will raise me or fold on a
flush board. That makes such limpin even less desirable.
draw
at
aggressively. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 7 Who Gets This One Correct Or the Closest, 2 Bao Zi.
RUSH TOurney,
BB=120. Preflop 2 limpin + SB and BB;
Flop, none bet.
Turn, BB pot, UTG+1 call, BTN 2X, and then re-raise, reraise and all in |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 8 Guys, In what way do you use HM?!
Yesterday, I join a ring dame (9-handed, 5/10NL). I do not do this often.
Well,
I am trying out all kinds of games (HU, RUSH PLO etc).
I buy-in w/ $4 only. A couple of hands later, I was on BB. Two limpins from
MP, SB call and I all in w/ AJo. Two MP fold, and SB call w/ AKo. I was
surprised SB shows up AK rather than a small-or-medium pair. I am wondering
whether this
guy use HM on me? Is that possible?
Also how do you guys use HM? |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 9 If not bluff, SC is profitable w/ 5+ ppl only in long term. At micro stage,
you can try limpin anytime. To Bluff, loose caller can cost you. At high
stage, it might be diff. story. At MTT medium, I saw players W/ SC bet pot/+
on river. Any hand w/ less than TP cannot call. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 10 Played one MTT. Hopped in late (bb=60 already). But played TAG and tripled
up soon, 2X of the average. Well, one hand got pure lucky (limpin w/ 35s and
hit straight flush. one got nut flush on turn and allin).
After a while, the avg chip goes up and I barely moved (engaged in another
satellite MTT, won that one). My chip is only 1.5X avg, focused and moved up
somewhere.
Then decide to play LAG. The table is rather tight. Most raises collect BB
only.
Raise/Call raise a lot. Less than 20 min, chip |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 11 我那手river上我要是只有TP肯定扔了。你那对A完全是bbv了，没啥好说的。A8o这把
turn上我肯定
走了，怕5,22/33/44。
laydown. I
called.
not a
First hand, I have AA. EP 4.5X on afront limpin, I 2.5X further at MP. All
fold to EP, who 3X (close to allin) back. And I allin. He show QQ. Nice
here, with AA and get all chips in.
tournament. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 你太牛了.. A8知道自己beat了还叫...要的就是这种精神..ftp 有这种精神的人还是太少...
I
a
hand, I have AA. EP 4.5X on afront limpin, I 2.5X further at MP. All fold to
EP, who 3X (close to allin) back. And I allin. He show QQ. Nice here, with
AA and get all chips in.
tournament. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 13 TO me A8o is good hand to raise on limpin. Well, I do fold at front(not open
bet/raise). |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 14 Bad play if there is no pre-flop action. any thing is possible for limpin
pot.
one
) |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 15 1) 24+2 for 600+ Million Guarantee entry. Top 5 get entry, top 8 has $ and 7 ppl left.
BB=2K and average=14BB. I have 17BB at SB. SB=13BB.
Preflop, SB, T4o limp in; BB check
Flop, T72 rainbow, both check
turn, 3, SB 2BB (almost pot, flush draw); BB call.
river, blank(
BB with TJ win.
Bad time to allin. And No need to allin
2) 6 for 129 entry. First gets the entry. Top 4 has $, 4 left. BB=500
Avg chip=24BB. I have 19BB at SB.
Preflop, btn limpin, SB 9s4s call and BB check
... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 16 I need be cautious on this kind of limpin pot. Many times, it is
due to forget # one rule at MTT, it is to survive not to win a hand. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 17 I play Rush PLO10 (sometimes PLO25). It is ok for FTP points and small $.
Play PLO Tourney, it is very tough. Limpin/raise and not sure to call re-raise or not. If call, hard to tell to call CBet or not. Position is more important
since of more scaring board/combination |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 18 I have two goals. 1) win WSOP package. It did not happen.
2) Win a MTT. I mean win it not just at final table. I had a few final
tables.
But either made mistakes or go for deal. Have not happened yet. But one
month
to try. Might MiniFTOP is place to go.
Last weekend, at one final table made silly mistake wtice. Call allin from
short stack TWICE. 1) raise 2.4BB at CO w/ A8s and call allin from SB (1/4
chip). SB had JJ and held. 2) SB limpin and BB/I raise to 3BB. SB allin (1/3
chip), I tank(I kno... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 19 MTT, 29K in the pool. Winner takes 5+K.
20 left, BB=12K, average chip=300K.
Hero at SB w/ KK with 600K chips
MP w/ 700K chips
Preflop, MP limpin, so did BTN, SB 4BB and BB call
MP 10BB, BTN fold, SB call and BB allin (MP/SB call, cannot raise)
Flop, 28T rain bow. SB check and MP allin
What would you play, call/fold? |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 20 刚装了holdem manager，读了windstormm转的几篇2+2的文章，看来数据分析不亚于PhD
paper啊。。
我玩得很少，都是NL25 rush，发现上次玩是今年3月的事情了。。只有4.8k手（盈利差
不多8个buyin, or 17bb/100，但allin EV只有2-3个buyin左右，应该算比较lucky）
现在sample量当然太小了。个人感觉要降低vpip到16左右，pfr到11-12左右，3bet到4
左右，flop cbet到60%左右。但4bet和call cbet呢在多少比较合适呢？
不过我对是否要降低vpip以及提高pfr/vpip还有疑虑，貌似nl25还是可以多limpin一些
的。
vpip: 20 (decrease to 16?)
pfr: 10 (increase to 12?)
aggr: 2.x (increase to ??)
3bet: ～2.9 (increase to 4?)
4bet: ～0.2 (increase to ??)
call 3bet: ～25% (how about this?)
... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 21 今晚第二手就是AA 3x raise结果输给一个垃圾牌的顺子。后面拿到的KK/AA基本没人
call，决定limp了。。结果碰到下面这手。。
我4bet后，两人很快fold，说明SB is capable of squeeze而且对这种limpin-4bet非
常警惕的，我只是不知道他会不会fold KK。
如果我flat call 3bet，不知道MP2会不会call，而且我觉得SB也会很警惕，我的AA的
implied odds不会好，而他基本在暗处。
所以我觉得4bet还是可以的，或者说mix up吧，差不多50/50？
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1092118
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
UTG+1: $25.00
Hero (UTG+2): $55.91
MP1: $10.52
MP2: $35.84
CO: $44.86
BTN: $24.45
SB: ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 22 MTT, BB=600, 4-way-limpin
no bet on flop, tiny ball on turn 3-way
Me play board on river, 1/3 pot
SB call with 7 high
hahha |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 23 昨晚很多手pocket pairs，但AA被搞了两次，QQ/JJ什么的很多又在中间被迫fold，我
就决定分析一下pocket pair到底怎么回事。。
昨天一天（包括白天）一共1749手，按理说应该拿8手左右pocket AA或其他pair，结果：
AA：14手，总利润-$14，发现赢的基本都是0.35blinds，对手神了。有两次limpin也就
BB call，然后flop fold。
KK：8手，+$15.27
QQ: 12手，+$20.6
JJ：10手，-$0.3
TT：9手，-$5.45
99：14手，+$8.48
昨天3bet/4bet不多，特别是4bet，估计是AA bad beat让我对pocket pair更保守了。
==============================================
接着又统计了这几天：
non pocket pair: 10538手，盈利-$62.08，大概-2.35bb/100。
pocket pair：667手，盈利+$300.91，大概+180bb/100
pocket pair的possibility很接近理论值... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 24 short stack limp in不是很好。很久没玩live了，你这三手牌要是online绝对不能这
样玩，第一手你limpin后肯定得fold，89s拿到flush可能反而死得最惨；第二手也是
fold；第三手肯定要squeeze，按你的筹码，也许allin。
这边 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 25 Have not played RUSH NL50 for a while. Only play 100 hands yesterday and
found
no too much action.
Get KK twice and QQ once, all at LP(CO/BTN). No raise at front and only to
collect
BB.
Raise with AQo/s twice from MP and both get 3/4X and folded (no info on the
player).
Raise with KQs at MP once and CBet 1/2 aced flop and BB call. Turn, A and
all check down. BB has JJ and won.
Raise with PP twice and CBet 2/3 AP (and won). Raise a couple of times with big Ax and medium PP to collect BB.
Call d... 阅读全帖 |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 26 I will not fold my top set either if I can rule out the draw possibility by
doing at least 2 streets big bet. If people call big on flop/turn and hit
their draw on river, I will pay them off for sure, they deserve it. In this
case, limpin/check the flop/min 3 bet turn, having the top set just could
not expect too much.
set |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 27 I was emailed that gift card can do it. Not tried yet.
The site and player pool seems tiny. And Wired, Satellite for 109$ entry(6/7
left and top 3 get the entry), barely raise for BB(=300/400, avg. =20BB)
and all limpin?! |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 28 at one Poker After Dark, three handed, two limpin and Chen at BB raise ~3BB.
Flop 6JJ. All check on flop, and turn (blank). River is blank also. SB bet
1/2- pot. Chen fold and btn fold. SB has 66.
It is hard to say where the implied odd stands. Chen even did not CBet there
. And fold on river without any hesitation. |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 29 Hand 2 is right after the previous one.
EP who got busted reloaded 120 and raise 12. 3 callers,I had KhQh in CO and
called. SB/BB fold.
flops 3h7hJh. EP c bet 40 and I called. turn 2s. EP went all in and I called
. he showed AhJs. river is 6h. he doubled from me.
just a bad beat, nothing special.
hand 3. I made extra money
UTG straddle , I had 4c7c at BB and it's 5 ways straddle limpin pot.
flop 3c5sQc. I checked. Same young loose guy --MP bet 15 and same old
calling station called --LP. I CR to... 阅读全帖 |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 30 I think I will play exactly same with positon except the pre-flop j8 limpin.
Raise or fold. |
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o********r
发帖数: 303 | 31 Nu-metal大势已去，现在LimPin Park也就是靠他们内帮老粉丝捧场罢了。
－－－－－－
Nu-metal真的是没意思，早就该玩晚了！ |
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m******1
发帖数: 715 | 32 I have great respect to Sklansky's theory. But games are not exactly the
same with online, 6-max, PL, CAP,etc. More importantly, the players are
having different perspectives, too. Most people play these micro and small
stack do not expect make a living on it.
Bottom line, theory aside, go plug-in and play you will see what work. 77 (
and other small pairs) in early position is a good example. You will find
out which is more profitable by playing 50% limpin and 50% raise-in, after
probably |
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