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w***x 发帖数: 1763 | 2 等疫情发展到了意大利西班牙那种程度
还是不得不走lockdown 的路 |
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发帖数: 1 | 3 new_bie 发于 2020-03-25 14:37, 论坛:
标题: 晕。这才wfh几天呀,HR就发email说要裁员。
公司还有一个中国opt小伙子,律师正在准备广告。这乍办呀。
tobeornottobe 发于 2020-03-25 14:39, 论坛:
华人大妈不关心这个,华人大妈只要lockdown, 否则就是草菅人命。 |
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B******e 发帖数: 16928 | 4 Japan issues a travel alert for the whole world
By CNN's Emiko Jozuka and Junko Ogura in Tokyo
Japan’s foreign ministry issued a travel alert for the entire world on
Wednesday for the first time as the coronavirus pandemic accelerates.
The ministry raised its travel alert to level 2 on a four-level scale,
urging people in Japan to refrain from non-essential overseas trips.
The latest move is aimed at preventing the spread of the virus, as Japan has
seen a rise in people testing positive after re... 阅读全帖 |
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B**r 发帖数: 84 | 5 问题不在于教 在于人听话不。 现在意自己总理都那国民没辙 说了lockdown 人都好往
外面跑
: 怎么没用了?
: 中国专家不去,意大利会死更多。
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发帖数: 1 | 6
BBC 驻纽约记者的一段话
"Nor has the United States offered a model for how to deal with this crisis.
South Korea, with its massive testing programme, and Japan have been
exemplars. China, too, has shown the advantages of its authoritarianism
system in enforcing a strict lockdown, which is especially worrying when the
western liberal order looks so wobbly. Hopefully, nobody will forget how
officials in China tried to cover up the virus for weeks and silenced
whistleblowers, showing the country's ugly auto... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 7 才刚刚开始,过几个月才知道对错。
我觉得英国的“群体免疫”很可能是最科学的预测,但是政治特别不正确。
没有哪个国家承受得起长期的lockdown,而这个疾病的性质就决定了可防可控只是口号
和幻觉。
还不如面对,对高危人群重点保护,认真做好flatten the curve. |
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t*****r 发帖数: 543 | 8 整个城市成了一个大毒罐子
New Orleans Faces a Virus Nightmare, and Mardi Gras May Be Why
Louisiana may be experiencing the world’s fastest growth in new cases.
Medical experts said Mardi Gras might have accelerated the crisis.
A deserted Bourbon Street in New Orleans, which has had more coronavirus
cases than all but 15 states.
William Widmer for The New York Times
By Katy Reckdahl, Campbell Robertson and Richard Fausset
March 26, 2020
NEW ORLEANS — Yanti Turang, an emergency room nurse at a New Orleans
hosp... 阅读全帖 |
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t*****r 发帖数: 543 | 9 lockdown再过几天干预效果就能显现,人心就稳了,股市就能稳了 |
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B******e 发帖数: 16928 | 10 Panic buying hits Tokyo shops after governor’s stay-at-home request
From CNN's Emiko Jozuka in Tokyo
Tokyo residents started panic buying basic goods Thursday soon after the
capital’s governor urged people to stay at home over the weekend.
Bread, rice, pot noodles and meat sold out quickly across the Japanese
capital, with shoppers stocking up on similar items in neighboring Chiba
prefecture, too.
Rush for essentials: The latest shopping spree comes as Tokyo Governor
Yuriko Koike on Wednesday ur... 阅读全帖 |
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D***s 发帖数: 5613 | 11 这个中文报道太多文字游戏,含含糊糊没说清楚。看了一个英文报道,意思是这批检测
试剂盒有问题,准确度低于30%(王辰院士也提到过核酸试剂盒的准确度是30%-50%),
所以就退回了。这批有问题的试剂盒不是跟中国大规模合同(432 M 欧元)里面的试剂盒
,是西班牙国内一个供应商提供的,该供应商从中国进的货。
Madrid, Mar 26 (efe-epa).- Spain抯 government on Thursday said a batch of
faulty Covid-19 testing kits it had been forced to return had been acquired
through a domestic supplier and not directly from an unlicensed Chinese
company as the Asian nation抯 embassy said.
Spain抯 efforts this week to roll out 640,000 rapid testing kits, mainly
made by co... 阅读全帖 |
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s****e 发帖数: 7018 | 13 无论人种,肤色,富贵贫贱,病毒一视同仁。
该经历的都跑不掉 |
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h*********n 发帖数: 11319 | 14 只会高不会低
lockdown效果越好,死人数越会远远超过15天前的确诊数 |
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C******e 发帖数: 1850 | 15 很多人都是差不多两个星期前开始在家工作的吧,各个重灾区的州也lockdown 一个星
期以上了,所以情况好转应该是下个周末左右,华盛顿州已经出现拐点了,希望其他州
能跟进。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChinaWeb 1.1.5 |
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发帖数: 1 | 16 为什么lockdown 生效,死亡人数会大大超过15天前的确诊人数? 不太懂。 |
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z*****n 发帖数: 36 | 17 因为前期注定该死的还继续躺在医院dying,但是因为lockdown了,所以确诊的人数会
减少。到时候又得重新算一个增长率出来。
还有一个就是等到神药出来,或者呼吸机大量入场,死亡率会下降,可能还有一定转机 |
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k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 18 发现关几天脑子有点木了,对精神确实有影响,说话都有点不利索了,另外,老黑劳模
根本不拿lockdown当回事儿,照样在店里店外扎堆儿谈笑,看来美国还得一阵子才能拐 |
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u***r 发帖数: 4825 | 19 https://www.rt.com/op-ed/484298-east-west-war-coronavirus/
27 Mar, 2020 16:21
Asian democracies like South Korea, Japan and India are doing a better job
than Europe and the US in combating the coronavirus pandemic. Deep social
divisions and poor leadership in the West are just two of the reasons.
Even as the coronavirus has spread like wildfire to 199 countries and
territories around the world, a pattern of differential extent of
devastation is evident. The list of worst affected countries with ... 阅读全帖 |
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a****2 发帖数: 1458 | 20 会不会把trump的小心脏吓出来 北美马上lockdown三月 |
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E*******F 发帖数: 2165 | 21 昨天看新闻印度突然lockdown,新德里许多农民工没办法回家也没钱维持生活 |
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发帖数: 1 | 24 盖茨和马云是一路货色。
一个高歌996,
一个大喊lockdown,
全特么是“反正不是我”的不差钱人生导师。 |
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O**********g 发帖数: 3962 | 25 那个flat curve就是扯谈。
第一,在武汉爆发后,在1个多月里竟然没有想到赶紧扩建医疗资源,赶紧囤积口罩防
护服呼吸机,既然已经知道病毒扩散无法阻挡,不提高医疗最大负载能力上限这真是无
法自圆其说。
第二,以目前的医疗负载能力上限,如果成功flatten curve,那就意味这这病毒要传
播好几年后才能群体免疫,这就意味着几年的lockdown,这他妈的经济大萧条得是千年
一遇了。 |
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r***i 发帖数: 9780 | 26 你丫的懂个屁,现在各个州县逐渐都lockdown了,除了一些有限的超市快递等行业还允
许运营,很多行业本身不需要互相接触的也不让开工。这就很过分了。所以德州刚刚把
靶场给排除在停工之外了
川普要的是让企业主和员工自己决定是否上班,而不是统一的禁止开工。
这样联邦负担会小很多,而且对美国经济,对民众来说都有好处
至于扭腰这种shithole,虽然最反川普,但是川普并没有放弃他们
如果川普真的不管不顾,扭腰那才是真的爽,麻痹的左叉州长和极左市长屁都没准备。
只会撒泼打滚骂川普,一直在干他们的正事:毒品合法化,大蛇非法,大赦罪犯……呢。
如果联邦不管,要不了几天那绝对变成人间炼狱。
川普还是太心软,心好,按我的观点,麻痹的联邦就应该按照全国病人总数平均分配,
联邦储备拿出一半来平均分,然后剩下一半每周根据状况再分配点。同时加大生产和采
购。
你扭腰病人多,可以多分点,但也绝对不是什么都管够了。哪怕别的州人家准备的好,
不太需要联邦资助。 |
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d**e 发帖数: 1124 | 27 看看左媒是如何偷换概念的。把"could potentially"改成"will",然后放在主标题里
就这么无耻。fauci还是太幼稚,以为他说的话会被原样引用LOL
媒体标题:
Dr. Fauci predicts America's coronavirus death toll will be '100,000 to 200,
000', millions of people will be infected and says lockdowns will NOT be
lifted next week like the President wants
Fauci原话:
Dr. Anthony Fauci says there could potentially be between 100,000 to 200,000
deaths related to the coronavirus and millions of cases. “I just don’t
think that we really need to make a projection when it’s such... 阅读全帖 |
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N**********d 发帖数: 2466 | 28 比尔盖茨说了,不学中国lockdown, 都会指数增长
[在 cynic ([email protected] 1998->2010->?) 的大作中提到:]
:加拿大3700万人,确诊的已经5900,而且这个数还早着呢,有的增长呢。
:按照每十万人比例,中国新冠确诊的人太少了
:中国需要恢复帝制,现代特色的帝制
:帝制不复,华夏不兴 |
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t*****r 发帖数: 543 | 30 Mystery In Wuhan: Recovered Coronavirus Patients Test Negative ... Then
Positive
A spate of mysterious second-time infections is calling into question the
accuracy of COVID-19 diagnostic tools even as China prepares to lift
quarantine measures to allow residents to leave the epicenter of its
outbreak next month. It's also raising concerns of a possible second wave of
cases.
From March 18-22, the Chinese city of Wuhan reported no new cases of the
virus through domestic transmission — that is, inf... 阅读全帖 |
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c********i 发帖数: 942 | 31 洗手, social distancing, 戴口罩, lockdown 封城
这些都不到赤脚医生的水平,但就是搞不好 |
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r*****g 发帖数: 9999 | 32 这就是所谓的lockdown?这样下去,死亡人数不是10-20万,得往50万去。唯一值得欣
慰的是戴口罩的多了几个。 |
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r***i 发帖数: 9780 | 33 你丫的懂个屁,现在各个州县逐渐都lockdown了,除了一些有限的超市快递等行业还允
许运营,很多行业本身不需要互相接触的也不让开工。这就很过分了。所以德州刚刚把
靶场给排除在停工之外了
川普要的是让企业主和员工自己决定是否上班,而不是统一的禁止开工。
这样联邦负担会小很多,而且对美国经济,对民众来说都有好处
至于扭腰这种shithole,虽然最反川普,但是川普并没有放弃他们
如果川普真的不管不顾,扭腰那才是真的爽,麻痹的左叉州长和极左市长屁都没准备。
只会撒泼打滚骂川普,一直在干他们的正事:毒品合法化,大蛇非法,大赦罪犯……呢。
如果联邦不管,要不了几天那绝对变成人间炼狱。
川普还是太心软,心好,按我的观点,麻痹的联邦就应该按照全国病人总数平均分配,
联邦储备拿出一半来平均分,然后剩下一半每周根据状况再分配点。同时加大生产和采
购。
你扭腰病人多,可以多分点,但也绝对不是什么都管够了。哪怕别的州人家准备的好,
不太需要联邦资助。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 34 美国看样子至少lockdown到6月初
新生录取 签证都来不及了
学校budget很紧的
只能按假设国际生都回不来做计划 |
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g***n 发帖数: 14250 | 35 米国大学好商量的很,你今年秋天来不了,暂停一年,明年秋天再来毫无问题。
米国这病毒不太平,当然是呆国内好了,呆一年再说。
: 美国看样子至少lockdown到6月初
: 新生录取 签证都来不及了
: 学校budget很紧的
: 只能按假设国际生都回不来做计划
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m**x 发帖数: 1084 | 36 戴口罩却不遮鼻子
/world-asia-india-52086274 |
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发帖数: 1 | 37 Timeline: How Italy's coronavirus crisis became the world's deadliest
https://www.axios.com/italy-coronavirus-timeline-lockdown-deaths-cases-
2adb0fc7-6ab5-4b7c-9a55-bc6897494dc6.html
"Italy looked at the example of China ... not as a practical warning, but as
a 'science fiction movie that had nothing to do with us.' And when the
virus exploded, Europe ... 'looked at us the same way we looked at China.'"
— Sandra Zampa, undersecretary of Italy's Health Ministry, to the NY Times |
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发帖数: 1 | 38 算了吧,lockdown对微软的team软件是利好吧?
丫要是餐馆老板看他还说不说这种话。 |
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E*******F 发帖数: 2165 | 39 现在每天在twitter上呼吁要lockdown |
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c****h 发帖数: 4968 | 40 这才是负责任的表现啊。美国、意大利、西班牙如果在个位数的时候lockdown,怎么会
有今天的惨像? |
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c******2 发帖数: 4019 | 41 米国自由比什么都大,根本不可能LOCKDOWN, NO MATTER WHAT |
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发帖数: 1 | 42 这个是平权的问题,不是自由的问题。
比尔盖茨之流当然希望lockdown来消灭病毒,他没有切切实实的生存危机。但是绝大多
数民众承受不起经济崩溃而失业的。纽约那些冒着危险坐地铁的,不知道危险吗?换位
思考能力才是高等人的思想标配。
全社会失业30%和病死1%来选择,谁都知道该选啥。因为失业30%最后造成的死亡恐怕不
止1%。
这个不是人不人道的问题,而是一个切切实实最小化灾难损失的问题。 |
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J****9 发帖数: 10 | 43 US is repeating all the mistakes China made. Now asking people to wear masks
is the correct move. The next one will be a nationwide lockdown. Western
median and governments’ ego caused this chaos. What comes around goes
around, but eventually they will pay higher price. |
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BR 发帖数: 4151 | 44 韩国根本就采用的完全不同的模式,没有lockdown 什么的。国际上现在有中国模式和
韩国模式两个基本模式,自己去查查,我没空教育你。 |
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q******s 发帖数: 7469 | 46 因为武肺lockdown,电信诈骗电话安静了一段时间
昨天开始又开始收到什么中文UPS快递电话。大陆复工了,是不是大陆打来的。 |
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h**e 发帖数: 446 | 48 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-chinese/from-
zero-to-hero-italys-chinese-help-beat-coronavirus-idUSKBN21I3I8
FLORENCE (Reuters) - In the storm of infection and death sweeping Italy, one
big community stands out to health officials as remarkably unscathed — the
50,000 ethnic Chinese who live in the town of Prato.
Two months ago, the country’s Chinese residents were the target of what
Amnesty International described as shameful discrimination, the butt of
insults and v... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****u 发帖数: 17243 | 49 "France is relocating women beaten by their partners into hotels, and has
created a secret code word for them to discreetly seek help in pharmacies,
in response to a huge increase in domestic abuse during the coronavirus
lockdown."
https://twitter.com/ma_franks/status/1245125076267261955?s=20 |
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t*********n 发帖数: 378 | 50 这也说明一旦感染病例基数大到一定数字之后,想要在彻底压下来难度有多大。
武汉5万多个确诊,后面没被发现的无症状感染者封锁了三个月还没彻底清零。还好tg
人多流调和筛查动作快能跟上。
美国这遍地开花一半以上的州都有1万以上的病例了,还做不到彻底lockdown,后面到
底能把新增压到什么地步,潜在的无症状的到底能发现多少,5月后到底敢不敢开工,
会不会来个二次爆发。。。
只能期望疫苗和特效药能快点出来,不然第三产业今年彻底完蛋-第三产业提供了80%+
的就业
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