p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 1 So why not close the loopholes the riches used to evade tax, and go after
them?
always |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 2 https://www.judicialwatch.org/corrupt-politicians-lists/washingtons-ten-most
-wanted-corrupt-politicians-for-2011/
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes
government corruption, today released its 2011 list of Washington’s “Ten
Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians.” The list, in alphabetical order, includes:
Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL)
Former Senator John Ensign (R-NV)
Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
Attorney General Eric Holder
Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)
President Ba... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********n
发帖数: 4050 | 3 I know that 10 years ago. Just see how GOP is blocking on any move to
increase revenue, even if it's about closing loopholes. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 4 Paul A. Rahe · Feb. 10 at 5:21pm
You have to hand it to Barack Obama. He has unmasked in the most
thoroughgoing way the despotic propensities of the administrative
entitlements state and of the Democratic Party. And now he has done
something similar to the hierarchy of the American Catholic Church. At the
prospect that institutions associated with the Catholic Church would be
required to offer to their employees health insurance covering contraception
and abortifacients, the bishops, priests,... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 5 巴马带来的改变：“只有在今天的华盛顿，才有总统绕过自己宣称的不许雇用游说人的
禁令，雇用游说公司的老板”
By Dana Milbank, Published: March 6
Three years into his presidency, Barack Obama has finally overcome his pesky
, puritanical aversion to K Street.
As a candidate, Obama pledged that lobbyists “will not run my White House.
” But on Monday, the president brought in one of this town’s most
prominent lobbyists to run his White House — or at least a nice piece of it.
Ricchetti achieved this feat — getting around the ban on lobbyists serving
in... 阅读全帖 |
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P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | 6 That's the loophole everybody is taking advantage of.
Buffet rule will fix it.
If you have million yearly income, your tax rate will start at 30%. |
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P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | 7 haha. your forefathers left too many loopholes.
so are you still alive? |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 8 By Patrick Goodenough
June 4, 2012
(CNSNews.com) – U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon addressed the advisory
board of a newly-established U.N. Counter-Terrorism Center in Saudi Arabia
on Sunday but was silent on the world body’s enduring failure to come up
with a universal definition of terrorism.
For well over a decade, the biggest single obstacle preventing a U.N.
agreement on defining terrorism has been the insistence by Muslim states
belonging to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC)... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 9 所以才一直有人提fair tax的讲法啊.
大家都用一样的税率,杜绝所有的loopholes. |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 10 I am not happy with the following policy:
Mitt Romney deliberately molded his economic policies so that people like
him (the mega-wealthy) would pay much less in taxes.
While those mega-wealthies have already passed so many tax loopholes
specifically designed to benefit them and only them, by hiring their lapdogs
, think tanks, lobbyists and unfortunately congressmen from both left and
right. |
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 11 it's even more naive to raise the example of capital market
is the WSN rich when his nominal worth comes to 2 million dollars?
he IS NOT rich yet.
he IS RICH when he buy properties, when his bank account
show sky high numbers. there's no difficulty to tax on these items.
he can avoid tax by capital investment, by making more wealth from his
wealth. That is exactly what we want this smart WSN to do!
we are not taxing people to punish them. a good taxation encourages
people to make positive effort... 阅读全帖 |
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g******s
发帖数: 68 | 12 Naive?
In your system, no income tax but wealth tax, Every rich guys will have a
company in the USA, but get a citizenship from other country. Now, his
income from USA is not taxable. His company owns a lot of properties, but
the company belongs to other company headquarter in cayman island. According
to you, you can not tax his wealth because he is not us citizen and he does
not own the properties directly. Those properties is owned by the company.
He still get to do whatever he wants in the US... 阅读全帖 |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 13 与其他国家相比，比如中国企业缴税是税收的大头，而在美国企业缴税只是个人所的税
的零头。这是因为其他国家的企业要交至少10-100倍的税。
原因很是美国的企业缴税是根据利润的。一般企业利润不超过5%.美国税收最高35%(全
球最高）。但是美国企业几乎没有超过20%. 所以他的税率20% X 5% =1% 的生产值。
中国和欧洲的企业要交17% 的所有生产值的税，在加上利润的税。税收是18%.
所以其他国家的企业要交18倍美国企业的税。加上美国企业loophole,很多企业不交税
(比如 GE,)， 虽然他的利润可以是100亿。这些都是“合法”的。因为有专为富人服务
的税法。 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 14 By ANA CAMPOY
A Texas judge ruled in favor of pipeline operator TransCanada Corp.'s TRP.T
-0.29% use of eminent domain in its effort to build an oil pipeline that
could ultimately stretch from the Canadian tar sands to the U.S. Gulf Coast.
Lamar County Judge Bill Harris ruled late Wednesday in favor of the Canadian
firm in a dispute with a corn and soybean farmer over a patch of land about
100 miles northeast of Dallas, where TransCanada wants to bury part of its
pipeline.
Last year TransCanada ... 阅读全帖 |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 15 我有点其他的想法。
你CEO拿100 millions的收入也就忍了。
那你就交100 millions的工资税收吧，最高35%。
在美国就是奇拔，搞个loophole, CEO的工资算long term capital gain.
最高交15%的税，而且这个税还要公司shareholders付一部分或全付。
her
by |
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 16 政治，根本就不是什么“理念”问题
犹太人支持美国的民主党有两个原因
1. 二战被杀怕了，不抱着底层民众大腿，搞金融投资为主的他们
还会被杀一轮。这是一个民族的智慧积累。
2. 公共福利跟犹太人控制的资本几乎没有关系。犹太人人数极少，
对他们意义最重大的是市场规则，比如“too big to fail”等等，
缴税搞公共福利算个毛事情，更别说有那么多loopholes。
对犹太人而言，最有利的社会就是，全社会给无产阶级（潜在的暴力
革命者）买单，反正他们人少，他们按比例交付出很少。但是社会稳定
给他们带来的利益最大，他们控制的资本量极大，社会稳定带来的
资本繁荣，是按资本比例分红的。
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d*****s
发帖数: 5610 | 17 Romney关闭tax loophole一条就是要取消房屋贷款interest deduction, property tax
deduction, state and local income tax deduction.
光这一条，对大多数中产来说，如果是30万美元的贷款余额，4%的利率，就是taxable
income增加12000一年，再加上property tax 10k, state and local income tax 起码
10k，等于是taxable income在Romney下面要涨 32k，tax就起码增加一万多一年。
估计这个版上买房子的要心疼了。 |
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z********1
发帖数: 997 | 18 1. require insurance company use 85% of the premium income towards health
insurance, not profit or promotion. this indirectly make the insurance a)
company paid back 1 billion dollars refund to gov. b)lower the premium rate.
2. enforce everyone participate in health insurance. so insurance company
gets millions more customer hence premium income, allowing them 1) insure
young people from 20 - 26 get insurance from their parents policy. 2) insure
millions of seniors who wouldn't have coverage due... 阅读全帖 |
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z********1
发帖数: 997 | 19 你的唯一的可信点就是： 要动三巨头， 可是，
奥巴马有说不动三巨头么？
他的核心就是改革医疗体系。 他要cut commission and subsidies for healthcare
professinals and providers. cut over priced drug price there are no waste...
I can go on and on. 这些举措都是实实在在的针对loopholes的。 脸共和党都不能
否认吧？
目前富人不是在变穷， 而是更富， 中产不是在扩张， 而是在缩小。 有多少中产在08
年危机沦落为穷人？ 美国的贫富差距不是在缩小， 而是扩大了。 在这个时刻， cut
wellfare，根本是让沦落的中产根本不能重新回到中产， 才是方向性问题。
至于赤字。 别忘了， 奥巴马面临的就是花大钱的时候， stimulus, bail out,都是大
头的出钱的， 为了给08年危机止血， 这是common sense, 不花行么？ 花的比bush多
， 这不废话么？ bush有这样的经济危机去救么？ |
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z********1
发帖数: 997 | 20 首先， 我的保费在过去4年里， 没有涨。 也许是因为我换了州。
其次， 你问医保公司的钱从哪里来。。。多了。。o8的理论证实他们在实实在在的改
革医疗系统， 填补漏洞， 到你这里， 就变成空喊口号了。
1. require insurance company use 85% of the premium income towards health
insurance, not profit or promotion. this indirectly make the insurance a)
company paid back 1 billion dollars refund to gov. b)lower the premium rate.
2. enforce everyone participate in health insurance. so insurance company
gets millions more customer hence premium income, allowing them 1) insure
young people from 20 - 26 ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******7
发帖数: 2210 | 21 还是停止造谣吧，多拿证据。
Romney说的是cut 所有人的tax,但是大量减少富人的loophole, 这样富人的税是不会减
少的。
Romney说要取消利息和资本利得税，是只给middle class和poor的。
最重要的是，Romney是要给small business减税，因为他们现在大多数都是按照
individule 报税的，Romney要把小企业的税砍到25%一下。目的是pro-growth, 这是唯
一，唯一能解决就业和平衡预算的办法。
不要一天就共和党民主党，还是看看实际的政策吧，或者看看obama过去4年和Romney当
州长的政绩吧。 |
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g******y
发帖数: 1101 | 23 资本利得税给中产阶级？ 你投资才多少钱？ 你有多少股份？ 大量减少富人的
loophole?你看看那些法案是被共和党block住的，然后再说也不迟。 |
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 24 就是对税法的loopholes门儿清，逃税大高手。
罗姆尼真要当了总统，想改革税法的话，轻车熟路。比如怎么对美国人转移到cayman
islands的收入征税。
改革完了，自己把税表公布出来，他只要和supermarket的manager税率差不多高，税法
就算改革成功了。 |
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P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | 25 http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201007300006
The Modern Republican Party: Brought To You By Fraud & Tax Evasion
July 30, 2010 3:53 pm ET — Alan Pyke
Texan billionaire brothers Charles Wyly Jr. and Samuel Wyly stand accused of
"engag[ing] in a 13-year fraudulent scheme" using "an elaborate sham system
of trusts and subsidiary companies" based offshore to rack up an "unlawful
gain of over $31.7 million."
These charges from the SEC are hanging over the GOP because the Wylys have
been huge Repub... 阅读全帖 |
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f*********g
发帖数: 1637 | 26 Certainly less than we do. We can't afford to hire tax evasion lawyers to
seek all loopholes. |
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c******g
发帖数: 1217 | 27 He can hire lobbyists to ask congress to create more loopholes for him so he
can legally evade tax. Meanwhile, middle class people are taxed far greater
percentage than him and becoming working poor. |
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O**l
发帖数: 12923 | 28 同时减税 减赤字
就是因为一个不知道具体计划的 fix loophole
把别人当弱智？ |
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k**o
发帖数: 15334 | 29 He fixed 21 tax loopholes when he was governing MA |
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O**l
发帖数: 12923 | 30
so 当时总共多少钱 他如果当总统准备fix哪些 总共多少钱
现在1t一年加上他的7t 这么大的窟窿
什么loophole能填的满 如果填满了 是不是还是加重了公司税 |
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k**o
发帖数: 15334 | 31 I think you are confused about what a loophole is. |
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s********t
发帖数: 4150 | 32 我想很多ID最关心的都是Mortgage Interest Deduction.
It is pretty clear that Romney proposes to simply the tax code --- which
makes perfect sense --- The US tax code is way too complicated and therefore
embodies too many loopholes.
老罗应该会eliminate很多deduction items, 但我不认为他会取消MID. 这个MID是美国
房市的重要driver之一，而housing market又是a key in economic recovery. 老罗直
面经济问题，他又是个businessman,应该能看得清这一点。任何人作总统，都不会轻易
取消这个deduction, 特别是在整体经济状况糟糕的情况下。
Just my two cents. |
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d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 33 恩， 我也不纠结具体是17K还是34K, 主要还是思路。 他如果真的朝这个方向去fix，
那对美国来说是件积极的好事。
巴马太能忽悠了， 250K+不太可信， 能推动的话早干嘛去了， 而且250K+又没有
loophole可钻的才多少个percent， 最后还得靠fed印钱搞通膨变相加税。 |
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B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 34 Democrat的搞法美国有钱人都申请成为新加坡之类的公民了。 |
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w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 35 en, this part he is catching the good point. |
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y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 36 而且我总体感觉他们自己也没个谱，老说减少loophole，又不说减少哪些。结果今天
biden就说他们要减 mortage 和 medical 费用的。你妈，大部分中产阶级都有
mortgage吧。 |
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O**l
发帖数: 12923 | 37
他一解释绝对完 他所能fix的loophole 其实就是富人不多出 从中产的tax deduction刮
上一次 拜登讲的很清楚了 |
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l**w
发帖数: 865 | 38 Don't forget that Rommey is a moderate GOP. He effectively raised business
tax in MA by eliminate loopholes. He can also works nice with Mass state
legislator where DEM has super-majority.
But yes, he will definitely lose MA. MA might be the most blue state. |
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m**i
发帖数: 9848 | 39 总结下，lz的意思是富人的税反正也征不到了，富人找loophole的能力是无穷的，还是
征中产的税比较方便快捷。
有点像明穿小说里明末的状况，钱粮都在大地主大商人手里，就是税收不上来，国家的
税赋都被穷人扛了，最后逼得大家闹革命，迎闯王。 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 40 富人不是找loophole,富人有钱可以走阿,这么高的税率的话,富人换一个税率低的地方
住还不成嘛?
看Philidelphia就是个极好的例子. 税越来越高,结果税基越来越少, 因为富人都搬走
了,然后再加税, 然后税基再减少,就是个恶性循环. |
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T**********t
发帖数: 449 | 41 看过好几届的总统辩论了，本来基本没哈兴趣，因为双方大多数的辩论策略就是，你说
的和事实不符合，或者，我不是这个观点，其实质是什么，估计谁也不清楚。
按理说，你都要参选总统了，你不得弄个wiki page把你的理想，你的计划都说的一清
二楚吗？还有你的财务规划，是不是应该让德勤给你audit一下？
没有，全都没有，你的候选人对手有强大的专家团队，但是他们也搞不清楚你到底要干
什么，总是给你错误的指责，那你还选个屁的总统？
昨晚忍不住看了，结果还是老套路。 其实在财政赤字这个问题上，双方都在撒谎。什
么loophole之类，完全是空头支票。可以说不管哪个候选人上台，结果都差不多，就是
税是不可能减的，财政赤字还会继续扩大。因为这就是美国老百姓的民意，你不这么投
票的议员，你马上就的下去。两个党各说一头，其实必须要增税，然后全方位按比例削
减预算。 目前的实际情况是，税收要提高20%，预算要削减20%， 才勉强能剩下点小钱
还那个吓死人的国债。
不过双方候选人谁敢这么说啊？于是都打太极拳。根据这么个务虚辩论会来决定选哪个
当总统，民主就成了统计学的数字游戏。 而且各个利益集团只考虑自己利益，... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 42 Executives from around the world are profoundly pessimistic about the
ability of companies operating in the U.S. to compete in the global economy
and to pay high wages to U.S. workers, a survey of more than 6,800 Harvard
Business School alumni found.
Some 58% of the respondents expect the U.S. to weaken on one or both of
these two dimensions of competitiveness over the next three years. Only 25%
expect the country to improve on one or both.
"It's not that the sky is falling," said Jan Rivkin, a ... 阅读全帖 |
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m********e
发帖数: 148 | 43 So get rid of sale tax and make income tax 40%. Or close all income tax
loophole and charge 25% sale tax to make everyone vote. I am fine with
either way, DUUUUUUUUDE! |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 44 你说得是大部分人, 也不奇怪, 民众本来就是要给政治家愚弄的. 而且确实是选谁对他
们区别都不大. 都是要被爆菊的.
做为个人, 要看你的理想抱负.
如果你想一辈子做个中产, 其实选谁都无所谓. 税务肯定要越来越重, 不管是民主党还
是共和党. 美国贫富分化加剧不可避免. 剥削中产, 让更多的中产沦入下层, 都是趋势
, 这个从克林顿时代就开始了. 原因很多.
关键是你要进入那个 1%. 剩下的 99% 都是要被爆菊的. 不服也不行.
如果你是一个努力的人, 不认命, 很想进入那 1%, 那么你应该选共和党. 那里限制没
那么严. 民主党对这批人要绝对打击的, 因为你不安分. 年入$200K - $1M 的正是这批
人, 加税, 将会减缓这批人冲出中产的速度, 甚至扼杀在摇篮里.
你要是年入 $1M 以上了, 其实基本问题不大了, 选谁都没问题. 相信你总可以找到
Loophole 把自己的税率降到20% 以下的. 年入$200K 被划为富人本来就太扯, 我们都
知道, 这些人其实还是可怜的中产阶级. |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 45 我不知道吃错了药还是什么的, 报名参加了投票日的 Volunteer.
做为一名光荣的义务投票工作者, 我参加培训将获得$20的报酬, 投票日过去帮忙 (14
小时) 将会获得 $75 的报酬.
经过了培训, 我踩发现投票其实是一个非常复杂的过程. 我们做了很多步骤来 Verify
投票者的身份. 包括询问对方的名字, 地址, 而且要求签名.
可是培训完后, 做为一个有经验的码工, 我老觉得不对劲, 最后我终于发现哪里不对劲
了, 原来我们绕了很大圈子, 还是没有检查投票者的材料.无法有效防止冒名投票.
于是我提问: 老师, 我们为什么不查投票者的 Driver License, State ID, 或者其他
任何 带有照片的可以证明投票者身份的证件呢? 我们现在的流程这么复杂, 还是无法
证明他 就是 他 啊.
老师说, 我们不是投票的 POLICE, 我们只是严格按照程序执行维护投票秩序.
尼玛, 我说那有人冒名顶替怎么办.
老师说这不是你应该关心的事. 你不是 投票的 POLICE.
What the FXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
最后, 我被警告, 到时我不... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********3
发帖数: 10970 | 46 所以很多黑人都会一天去投5次票。奥巴马就靠这些人呢 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 2731 | 48 应该是以前各次选举就注册好的了吧，不可能每次选举都要去注册一次。 |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 49 允许临时注册, 临时投票.
而且允许多个地区投票. (不是允许, 而是原则上你可以跑到另外一个投票站再投)
不知道这些怎么算.
前几天有个民主党的Campaign Organizer给开除了, 就是因为有人拍到她在推广一种多
地投票的办法. 所以可能是不查的.
如果临时投票的要VERIFY工作量太大. 感觉要么就是直接扔掉, 要么就是直接算在内.
那部分我没有亲见, 不敢说. |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 50 这个很容易冒名顶替去投票. 如果你知道对方的名字地址的话.
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