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M******8
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来自主题: Military版 - 偶尔在网上发现这样一篇文章
http://www.raskb.com/transactions/VOL64/VOL64-3.docx
“You are Dead, the Square is Dead”: The 1989 Chinese Pro-Democracy
Movement
by Karen EGGLESTON
You are dead, the Square is dead.
They say now is a great victory,
thinking that death can protect their criminal existence.
We live on,
We give our hearts to you,the dead ones,
to let you live again through our lives,
to complete the mission which you left incomplete.
by Gu Cheng and Yang... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - 床铺的税务计划泄露了
GOALS
The Trump Administration, the House Committee on Ways and Means, and the
Senate Committee on Finance have developed a unified framework to achieve
pro-American, fiscally-responsible tax reform. This framework will deliver a
21st century tax code that is built for growth, supports middle-class
families, defends our workers, protects our jobs, and puts America first. It
will deliver fiscally responsible tax reform by broadening the tax base,
closing loopholes and growing theeconomy. It inclu... 阅读全帖
x****o
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来自主题: Military版 - 取消遗产税,太流氓了
呵呵,老川竞选时说美国税法那么多loophole,导致税法不公平,大家觉得他要来堵
loophole,现在一看根本不堵,直接取消,呵呵
说取消遗产税,给富人减税会刺激经济消费就是个伪命题
富人以前怎么活的,减税后还怎么活,而且更省事而已
E******d
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来自主题: Military版 - 取消遗产税,太流氓了
就是简化了,挺好
[在 xlzero (megatron) 的大作中提到:]
:呵呵,老川竞选时说美国税法那么多loophole,导致税法不公平,大家觉得他要来堵
:loophole,现在一看根本不堵,直接取消,呵呵
:说取消遗产税,给富人减税会刺激经济消费就是个伪命题
:富人以前怎么活的,减税后还怎么活,而且更省事而已
a****1
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carry interest 是风险投资基金经理从基金的投资利润中分得的部分, 这些钱只要交
15%的税。 是个很大的loophole.
Trump 竞选中说过无数次要close 这个loophole.
昨天, Gary Cohn在电视上说:
“We would would've cut carried interest," he said. "We've been trying to
cut carried interest. We tried probably 25 times。 The President asked just
this past Monday if we could still get rid of it."
"We hit opposition in that big white building with the dome at the other end
of Pennsylvania Avenue every time we tried."
"The reality of this town is that constituency(Wall Stree... 阅读全帖
w***u
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来自主题: Military版 - 国内地铁车票便宜的发指
中国传统上税务没有明面上对富人递进税,反而是递减的,比如古代的盐税和功名勋贵
免税。当代也对财产、财产转移和资本利得不征税。美国富人们一般靠loopholes,比
如各种家族基金,打着慈善的幌子逃税降低税率,或者让孩子进入直接进入管理阶层或
董事会,廉价转移股权。但明面上税法还是累进的,至少总量上,有财产的还是多交不
少。中国富人不用找loopholes都不用缴高税。
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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Trump Renews Powell Attack: "I Was Right... Fed Must Cut Rates BIgger And
Faster"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-07/trump-renews-powell-attack-i-was-
right-fed-must-cut-rates-bigger-and-faster
The "National Emergency Loophole": How Trump Will Intervene In The Market To
Crush The Dollar
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-05/national-emergency-loophole-how-
trump-can-intervene-market-crush-dollar
B**W
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就是香港可利用的loopholes多呗。这些loopholes有的对大陆有好处,有些是大大的坏
。真关了,总体效果不一定好坏,但对踏踏实实做实业的应该是好消息。

懂。
j******i
发帖数: 244
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'Shamelessness profiling' could help to dispel uncertainties.
At the Olympics, trying how hard is hard enough? That question has dogged
British cyclist Philip Hindes after the 19-year-old won the three-lap race
against the French with his two teammates on Friday by crashing at the first
bend and securing a restart. In the aftermath of that race, Hindes
reportedly said that the strategy in the team sprint final was "if we have a
bad start, we need to crash to get a restart." However British Cycli... 阅读全帖
M*V
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来自主题: RisingChina版 - LAPD niubi
Legal Loophole Could Hold Up $1M Dorner Reward
because Christopher Dorner died and was not captured.
http://news.yahoo.com/legal-loophole-could-hold-1m-dorner-rewar
m*********a
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Please tell me why private companies start hiring now. Of course those big
business have to write off cost, because they deduct their health care
premium twice in their tax report. Obama care just closed this loophole. So
no additional subsidy for big businesses. Small business could not use this
loophole before. Obama made the competition between small and big business
fairer. I knew you are always supporting your imaginary billionare friend
and feel so hurt because billionares' earn 1 cents le
l****z
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All you need to know to determine your vote in November is that a vote for
any candidate endorsed by unions is a vote for higher taxes.
I am pleased to report that UAW 2865 Los Angeles has provided a perfect list
of who NOT to vote for with this endorsement
Dear UAW 2865 members,
The November 2nd election is just around the corner. This election will
decide the future of our state for many years to come. As educators,
students, and public employees, we have a lot at stake in the election... 阅读全帖
b**********s
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来自主题: USANews版 - ZT Real Fix fo this Country
Stop Talking! Lets try some real fixes, 20 points that address the concerns
of most Americans They are suggested solutions that are (numbered) please
reply with the points that you like and the ones that you don’t with your
reasoning.
1) End Corporate Personhood (Keep Human Rights OUR Rights)
2) Reverse Citizens United (Corporate Money is Not Free Speech)
3) Prohibit All Former and Future Congressmen or Staff from being a Paid
Lobbyist.(Get Out of Washington)
4) Prohibit Any Lobbyist from offeri... 阅读全帖
l****z
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By Sarah Palin
Updated 5d 17h ago
Thanks to the solid new research and recent revelations in Peter Schweizer's
book Throw Them All Out and the subsequent coverage on 60 Minutes, we have
concrete proof to explain how members of Congress accumulate wealth at a
rate astonishingly faster than the rest of Americans and have stock
portfolios that outperform even the best hedge-fund managers'. (Full
disclosure: Schweizer is employed by my political action committee as a
foreign policy adviser.)

USA... 阅读全帖
l****z
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May 23, 2012 by Warner Todd Huston
The Washington Post published a long Op Ed by a pair of think tankers
pretending at both being “centrists” and offering an unbiased analysis of
why politics has gotten so “partisan” these days. The pair also claim they
know how to end this messy partisanship. But what they wrote is a perfect
example of why things have become so polarized, not an example of how to fix
anything.
The authors, Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein, published theirs
headlined, “Wa... 阅读全帖
s******8
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Romney至少近几年应该是没有用loophole的,问题是即使不用loophole本身富人的税就
很低。
g******s
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来自主题: USANews版 - 事实上富人实际的税率不到 1%
There are never any equality in human history and there will be no equal
society in term of rich/ poor and society resource in the future. People are
all different. Smart people like Steve Jobs and Gates are always going to
make much more than regular guy. The uneqality also comes from something
happened long time ago. I may be happy that I am in the USA now. But couple
geneartions later, my great great grand children may complain why they live
in the USA not China. Their unequality may simply c... 阅读全帖
k**o
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是否支持affirmative action?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
如何处理Medicare program的资金困境?
Romney: 改革Medicare
Obama: 给高收入者($250k+)增税
非法移民是否应赋予合法身份?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
Romney: Yes
Obama: No
如何减少美国的财政赤字?
Romney: 关闭tax loophole(他在任麻州州长期间找到并关闭了22个麻州的tax
loophole),降低联邦雇员的工资和退休金,cap federal spending,改革Medicare。
Obama: 给高收入($250k+)者增税。给capital gain增税。提高联邦debt ceiling。
联邦政府是否应支持同性恋婚姻?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
r***l
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来自主题: USANews版 - 我唐一下我的观点
最近泡了泡本版,看了不少帖子,长了不少见识。 今天有点空,多唐了些,这里单开
一贴,多挨几个thumb up和板砖,呵呵,本人知识有限,出错难免,但我觉的即使有些
错误,不影响我的基本看法,就是美国的财政问题在走向悬崖,必须在10年内控制住。
美国现在是严重分裂,无论怎么选,就差在PA/OH/FL这3个州上面。如果算popular
vote差距也就是2个百分点,4个百分点以上差距就算惨败了。大家都是成年人了,观点
基本不可能改变,政治问题很多时候本来就没有对错的,如果把时间纠结在辩论谁对谁
错上,就真像现在的国会了,天天吵架啥也解决不了。核心是要解决问题。
当然咱们也不是议员,讨论半天其实也没意义。很多人说,不是公民招个P急,不过只
要你打算定居在这里,把后代养在这里,即使你目前不是公民,起码了解一下也没有坏
处吧。有人说我以后回国,美国问题不care了,但现在中国美国基本穿一条裤子了,美
国国债要是垮台了,中国的1T刀多国债打了水漂,对美国出口大幅减少,中国的日子也
会很惨的。
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两党的争议的议题很多... 阅读全帖
k**o
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来自主题: USANews版 - 罗姆尼假大空的一塌糊涂
Fixing loophole != raise tax, also fixing loopholes is not the only
method of his plan. I think you are quite confused.
d*****s
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来自主题: USANews版 - 罗姆尼假大空的一塌糊涂
fixing loophole就是涨税,尤其是你如果买房,你的mortgage interest deduction,
property tax deduction就是romney的loophole,你就会交更多的税。
O**l
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来自主题: USANews版 - 罗姆尼假大空的一塌糊涂

自你己仔细听 他就讲了 减中产税公司税 不减收入 靠fix loophole
太搞了 7t的窟窿 靠一句 fix loophole 一点detail没有 骗鬼啊
k**o
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来自主题: USANews版 - 罗姆尼假大空的一塌糊涂
Again, fixing loophole is just 1 point of his 5 point plan. Of course
he would not reveal it now, if he did, democrats can just steal his
idea and say they were going to fix these loopholes anyway.
Y***a
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http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/265805-opin
Opinion: A Romney win would be a victory for shameless cynicism
By Juan Williams - 11/05/12 05:00 AM ET
Tweet
If Mitt Romney defeats President Obama in his bid for reelection on Tuesday,
it will mark the success of one of the most deeply cynical political
campaigns in American history.
It is hard to beat an incumbent no matter the economic climate.
It is even harder to be a Republican in the aftermath of President Bush’s
still widel... 阅读全帖
d*********2
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这些都是loophole来的, 根本收不到人的税。 换mitten这个自己钻过无数
loopholes的还有点希望。
知道人有钱人的游艇奢侈消费怎么来的吗? 几个有钱人筹个俱乐部, 注册个
organization, 甚至还是non-profit的, 然后请一票船长大副水手, 轮渡度假开
去澳大利亚或者隔三差五搞party的, 最后下来business帐都是负的, 不缴税不说,
甚至还能省点税钱。
你以为游艇就是backyard买个2-3人汽艇, 08ma也就是能从这样的中产身上搜刮点
税。
l*****7
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Nancy Pussy is a total shit!!!!
IT IS NOT TAX HIKES!!!!! IT IS PAYING BACK TAXES THE 1% OWED TO THE FED!!!!
!!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/nancy-pelosi-fiscal-cl
Nancy Pelosi: No Fiscal Cliff Deal Without Tax Hikes For Rich (VIDEO)Cliff
Talks, Nancy Pelosi Budget Deal, Nancy Pelosi Fiscal Cliff, Tax Hikes, Tax
Hikes Wealthy, Politics News
WASHINGTON -- House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi says she's hopeful
lawmakers can come to a deal to avoid a year-end "fiscal cliff" but any
... 阅读全帖
m*********a
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给2%的加税是60%的人同意的(可以看任何poll)。这是人民的意愿。
难道这不是民主国家,可以不管人民的意志吗?
看看共和党提出的狗屁妥协政策是去除loophole来加税。
这些loophole是我们用的房地产税,州税,医疗保险税,小孩 托儿费。
你妈,这些人太不要脸的,劫贫济富,吃相也不能这么难看吧。
p**j
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来自主题: USANews版 - 我有一个提案, 想看看民调
raise tax只会增加中产的tax,只有拿工资的中产才受影响。而富人有loophole,只有
close loophole才能收到富人的税,但别指望这笔钱有多大的用,跟美国债务完全没有
可比性。

surplus
that
k****g
发帖数: 1509
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来自主题: USANews版 - See How Obama lies on Fiscal Cliff.(zz)
Really hate Damn Dems and their Pighead leaders.
OBAMA'S, "FISCAL CLIFF," PLAN
By Ken Taylor
Republicans are talking surrender, saying they are willing to, "negotiate,"
with Obama about the, "fiscal cliff," which allows the Bush tax RATES, (not
cuts), to expire December 31st as well as massive cuts in the military
through sequestration. The GOP negotiating tool is to end tax, "loopholes,"
and deduction for the, "rich," but not changing the rates. In other words
double talk because when the ded... 阅读全帖
g***y
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来自主题: USANews版 - 只增税,不减开支
看来所有人都加税,不管富人穷人。所以这个deal就是半套cliff,tax的那半套,
spending cutting都没有。
DEM还继续吹自己没给middle class加税,给rich people加了税。
现在也没人提loophole的事了。回头一点一滴大家看不见的地方给rich people塞
loophole,把给他们加的税都还给他们.

not
o*****t
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"A man enters the dark bedroom of an unmarried woman after seeing her
boyfriend leave late at night, and has sexual intercourse with the woman
while pretending to be the boyfriend," the court wrote.
"Has the man committed rape?"
细节:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/04/justice/california-1872-rape-law/
(CNN) -- California's top prosecutor will seek a change in an 1872 state law
after an appeals court cited "historical anomalies in the law" when
overturning a rape conviction of a man who allegedly prete... 阅读全帖
g***y
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来自主题: USANews版 - TAX code就是富人的护城河
别扯淡了。谁在反对flat tax 或者income tax改consumption tax? 绝对不是富人。
loophole是progressive tax的社会主义理想和现实矛盾的产物。如果有一天没有人反
对取消loophole, 那就说明富人都搬走了,美国就变成法国了。
T*********I
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一:亚裔这个族群平均收入水平高,那么一部分加税必然会落到一部分同胞的头上。
二:即便亚裔只支持给收入高的人收税,富人也不会引颈就戮。他们至少会
1. 放弃美国国籍
2. 寻找新的loophole。这点上我们不应该怪他们,我们自己在填税的时候也是寻求利
益最大化。这个deduct,那个credit。在穷人的眼里,我们也没有分担我们该分担的税
务。其实,flat income tax是最公平的。让富人现在利用复杂的法律之间的漏洞来占
便宜的行为无所遁形。从根本上说,漏洞来自于复杂的法律,而复杂的法律来自于政府
。即:we the people created the loopholes.
国家的福利需要支出,军队、教育、政府公务员都需要支出。这个钱最后会以各种形式
分发到每个人。但是,穷人是怎么分都不会分到他们头上。富人会寻找新的避税途径。
所以最后还是中产会出。obamacare就是一个例子。虽然不叫税。但是的确是税。
三:还有更糟糕的。国家还会借钱。天文数字的国债最后也是要还的。不还就会导致美
元破产。中产存的那点钱不全都砸进去了。
这种还不叫亚裔是受害者吗?
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - More Obama Dead-on-Arrival Tax Proposals
by [email protected]
/* */ (Mike Mish Shedlock)
Is there a point to beating your head against a concrete wall? The answer
would seem to be "no", yet President Obama continues to do just that with
dead-on-arrival proposals.
Please consider Barack Obama Plans to Tax Overseas Cash Piles.
President Barack Obama will propose raising $238bn by levying a one-off
tax on the cash piles held by US companies overseas to repair the US’s
crumbling roads and bridges.
The measure, a key plank of ... 阅读全帖
b**********s
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同意。
什么叫得罪latino? 现在非法移民到处都是,还白拿福利,给社会的贡献是net
negative,如果没有人得罪latino,这个国家怎么办?有人出头,就会有更多的人支持
。很多公民和合法移民早就看不惯了,但政客都是老油条,谁都不出来说公道话,现在
他初来说,害怕没人支持吗?很多合法的墨西哥移民也是支持的。
不明白什么叫团结共和党烂摊子,和民主党斗?人正不怕影子歪,trump就是要美国更
好,符合国家利益的就做,不符合的就反对。按党派划分本来就是歪风邪气。
该关税当然不是明天就能做好的,但也得开始做啊。平衡贸易,促进就业,从来不是一
朝一夕的,trump能当8年,就能改8年,至少能往好里走。
tax cut减少税收,但海外资金repatriate也能收回很多税收啊,海外资金回游投资本
土,促进就业,也就促进税收啊。我相信trump的tax plan靠铺。他的网页说了4条,哪
条不合理,哪条不大块人心?
The Trump Tax Plan Is Fiscally Responsible
The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:
1 R... 阅读全帖
c***n
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对于大公司的避税和投资转移,Sanders是这样说的:
“Today, the U.S. government is actually rewarding companies that move U.S.
manufacturing jobs overseas through loopholes in the tax code known as
deferral and foreign source income.
This is unacceptable. During the Bush years, the U.S. lost nearly 30 percent
of its manufacturing jobs and since 2001, 50,000 manufacturing plants have
been shut down. Today, corporations in this country are outsourcing jobs to
China and other low wage countries where workers are paid penn... 阅读全帖
c***n
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你在另一帖中给出的问题的答案是:
capital gain tax rate比income tax低
corporate tax inversion.
这说的很对。那么你来看看Bernie的药方。如果有时间,可以说说药方不对在哪里。
https://berniesanders.com/issues/real-tax-reform-policies-that-sen-sanders-
has-proposed/
1. REFORMING THE CORPORATE TAX CODE
(1) End the rule allowing American corporations to defer paying federal
income taxes on profits of offshore subsidiaries.
(2) Prevent corporations from avoiding U.S. taxes by claiming to be a
foreign company through the establishment of a post office box in... 阅读全帖
c***n
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来自主题: USANews版 - CORPORATE TAX DODGING PREVENTION ACT
THE CORPORATE TAX DODGING PREVENTION ACT OF 2015
The Corporate Tax Dodging Prevention Act would prevent corporations from
sheltering profits in tax havens like Bermuda and the Cayman Islands and
would stop rewarding companies that ship jobs and factories overseas with
tax breaks. The Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) has estimated in the past
that similar provisions would raise more than $590 billion in revenue over a
decade. The Corporate Tax Dodging Prevention Act will reform the tax code
by:
... 阅读全帖
V**3
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来自主题: USANews版 - 税不是太高,而是不公平
这个说的对,
我认为,统一税率是最公平的
所有人必须交税,都一个百分比, 除了家庭成员dependent数量能免税以外,剔除所有
loophole
所有年收入5000美元以上AGI的都得交税
这才是公平
不公平体现在两点
1. 你说的巴菲特等人税率比中产低, 还通过一堆loophole避税,比如他的所谓“捐赠”
2. 一群福利族不交税却来参与制定纳税人的税率, 解决方案有两个, 或者一起交税
,或者闭嘴
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来自主题: USANews版 - 反对统一税率的借口可笑之极
注意,这里讲的税率,是指实际税率,
现在的税法制度下,尽管超富的名义税率比别人高,但是他们通过各种loophole,实际
上最终的实际税率往往比中产低
真正合理公平简单并且citizen friendly的税法制度是统一税率,打掉所有loophole
我个人支持只要AGI5000美元以上,就都交税,同一个税率,你说15% 也好,20% 也好
,大家都一个税率
有人说尼玛这税率高到30%穷人就活不下去了,富人不受影响
对了,就是这样才能让税收在一个合理区间--- 当一大批投票人意识到自己在自己想要
的税率下活不下去的时候,他们才会知道如何在政治上做出正确的选择。
否则不交税的人恨不得让别人交80%的税!
如果一个国家总是在这么一个“让穷人活不下去”的税率上晃荡,那么要解决的恐怕不
是税率问题,而是别的问题了!
别拿战争说事。 美国历史上战争年代才占多少比例? 真到了战时给富人提税也不是不
可以。但是平时别拿那个当挡箭牌
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来自主题: USANews版 - 反对统一税率的借口可笑之极
现在美国公司都被逼到去外国了,说明没什么loophole.
税率改革没什么好办法,都是牵一发而动全身,改不了。
什么统一税率,什么关loophole,都是政客在忽悠。最后选上去了都会得过且过。
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来自主题: USANews版 - 累进税缩小贫富差距
那你得換個title,改成“去掉loophole缩小贫富差距”。
不去loophole,什麽稅都木用
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前面惊世骇俗的言论已经起到预期的作用, 有了一批死忠。 现在继续那种风格已经作
用不大了。是后续给出这些策略具体实施办法, 让人相信他的施政是深思熟虑确实可
行的 - They are all do-able.
1. Immigration. ok, build the wall. (who pays for it is not important, 10B,
health saving alone far outweights that). question is what you gonna do with
the 10m illegals in the country? deport all of them is obvious impractical
and unnecessary. My suggestion:
a. set up special visa category. allow a path to eventual legalization,
providing they fulfill certain criteria, they are allowed for... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: USANews版 - trump继续flexible
以左X的智商理解不了的。
美国现在的富人的社会责任主要有两个部分。
第一个部分是tax
第二个部分是各种loophole cover的所谓charities和在海外资产的转移及税务成本。
这些就是巴拿马论文赚的那些钱
所谓的negotiation, 就是说服这些富人, 以减少他们第一部分 tax的负担, 来换取
他们把第二部分的责任, 部分转移回美国国内来, 或者把所谓的慈善, 转交给政府。
总体上或许能够提高总税基。
典型的例子就是美国各大巨型公司的海外资产一次性大赦。
其实2012年Romney也是类似的提法。 结果他一个号称要减税的, 因为要堵loopholes,
被巨富集团联手干掉了。
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右派要承认,希拉里的Tax Proposal至少有一个方向是对的:降低Long-Term Capital
Gain Tax的优惠。巴菲特什么的主要靠这个优惠,才能使得自己比劳苦大众交得税率低
。这个优事实上造成了对巴菲特这种人的补贴。希拉里的Proposal是向着堵这个不公平
的漏洞的一大步:延长Long-Term的定义从现在的1年到6年,中间按年阶梯化税率。
索南自己的钱在401K里面,放在个年代fund里面一放就是几十年。取出来的时候都是按
ordinary税率交税而不是Long-term capital gain。这只能说明Long-Term Capital
Gain是个Loophole。不要让不明真相群众觉得GOP故意留着loophole。
期望老床识时务,借鉴希拉里这个方案,减小Long-term capital gain和ordinary
rate之间的差。
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/details-hillary-clinton-s-capital-gains-tax-proposal
“Under current law, such c... 阅读全帖
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从税收的角度来讲,这个report没有说明Donald在报税方面有什么问题。任何人碰到这
种情况都会这么报。但是跟他经常说的一些事情矛盾。
1. 商业上的成功:一年损失掉这么多钱,至少让人怀疑你的商业灵感。
2. 税收政策:号称了解税收政策,批判现在的system。但是提出的税收政策没有具体
针对loophole的措施,包括carried interest, 一些地产商的优惠,还有上面提到的这
些loophole。其实税收政策的复杂很大一部分就在这些东西上面,而不是有普通的
personal income tax有几个
bracket。
另外,我个人认为税收方面满足法律的要求就可以,而且所谓的慈善捐款就不应该免税
。就是看到很多人对buffet很不屑,所以想看看人家对社会的贡献。
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来自主题: USANews版 - 看了两个tax plan的比较
Loopholes的话,两位唯一的共同点就是carried interest要按工资而非capital gain
的税率。除此之外,几乎所有针对富人的税收政策两人都是截然相反的,比如遗产税,
capitai gain,ssn cap等等,希拉里都是针对top 1多收税,而床铺的政策更多地是给
top 1减税。
从富人征税,投资于国民公益教育等,减小贫富差距,共同富裕,不管做不做得到,仅
凭民主党推动这些政策而共和党反对这些政策的本身,作为99%的一员,我还是要支持
希拉里,因为大家好才是真正好而非赢者通吃的美国才是那个让人向往的原来的那个美
国。


: tax plan如何,一个是要看留了多少loophole,这样才会知道到底能收上来多少
。一个

: 要看开支如何。没这两个光看税率就是空谈。

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逗逼
遗产税最主要的目的是消除贫富差距
消除的不好不是遗产税设置本身有什么问题,
而是故意留了loophole
川轮不去怪故意留得loophole, 却去怪遗产税本身,
也是醉了
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主流放出这样的大标题,就说明税改已死,老头为了执政一百天宣传不和国会磋商弄出
个one page,让人尽情攻击,下面就是一系列电视报纸声讨,然后民调一天比一天低,
跌到百分之十几,像上次医改一样,国会都不会安排投票。
NYT: Tax Plan Shifts Trillions From U.S. Coffers to Richest Families
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s proposal to slash individual and business
taxes and erase a surtax that funds the Affordable Care Act would amount to
a multitrillion-dollar shift from federal coffers to America’s richest
families and their heirs, setting up a politically fraught battle over how
best to use the government’... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: USANews版 - 法律和税务仅对屁民有约束
本来就是这样的,专门留了很多loophole供Washington lawmakers and their
lobbyists and special interests享用的。结果很多人还非要原教旨主义的law and
order. Law and order是不错,但不能不承认很多law瑕疵很多,正如那些有loophole
的law一样,如此还将law and order奉为上帝一般的虔诚有如被卖了还替人数钱的感觉。
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