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g********y
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This is a very interesting topic.
But, first, and foremost, we need to understand what motivate this “
Japanese invasion”. Then, we can talk about what exactly is Yuan or Qing
mean in Chinese history.
This could be a long story. There is simply not an easy way to put it.
This “Japanese invasion” is fundamental different than what Mongol and
Manchus tried to do to mainland.
Mongol and Manchus are nothing but nomadic people whose society is based on
hunting and gathering. For them, to hunt a Chine... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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In 甲午战争, Japanese did not consider himself with war with Chinese, but
only with Manchus. Japanese consider they are helping Chinese to get rid of
Manchus. In fact, as we all know, Japan supported many Chinese, such as 康有
为,孙中山, some still tried to teach and reform Manchus, some simply do not
want to teach Manchus anymore and want to get rid of them, as we see in “
百日维新”and later “驱除鞑虏”。
Japan did not have much problem with core Chinese people until his full
attack at Nanjing. When Japan occupied... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: History版 - 1644年,李自成起义
Apr 25 1644
End of Ming Dynasty
The collapse of the Ming Dynasty was a protracted affair, its roots
beginning as early as 1600 with the emergence of the Manchu under Nurhaci.
Originally a vassal of the Ming emperors, Nurhaci in 1582 embarked on an
inter-tribal feud that escalated into a campaign to unify the Jianzhou
Jurchen tribes. Later Nurhaci announced Seven Grievances and openly
renounced the sovereignty of Ming overlordship in order to complete the
unification of those Jurchen tribes still... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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Idiot 曾子航 and moronic Manchus culture 事儿妈。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQJIKuFxn0
Watch through the whole video.
First pause at 10:24.
Then take a look at 11:11 to 11:13.
The screenshot is in the following.
Do we see grudge, powerless and hatred? The glory of Manchus and its rotten
so called culture fades away in front of the assertiveness of individuality.
That is the waking up of REAL CHINESE.
Let us walk this through minute by minute.
• 3:35
o So far so good. Even got a girl s... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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来自主题: Military版 - 日本这个国家为何如此强大?
I give you one simple answer.
Because the majority of REAL Chinese is still in slumber.
There are many Lower Life Form, like Manchus, Mougals, barbarians from the
north currently live within PRC border and they claim themselves to be
Chinese.
In fact, those people are nothing more than two leg roaches. A majority of
REAL Chinese are still kind enough and naïve enough to treat those
roaches as Chinese.
Just take a look at those idiomatic Manchus pigtail tv series in mainland
those days.
Thos... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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来自主题: TVChinese版 - 这期非诚勿扰的4号上海男人火了
Yep, exactly.
This 曾子航 got nothing. Who does he think he really is???
Does he even consider himself to be in service? His role in this show is
help other. Does he even aware of that? He had the nerve to call guest as “
事儿妈“。
Who does this idiot曾子航think he is?
Those fukers from Beijing always place themselves as judges of moral high
ground. They always think it is their fuking duty to guide the people. Who
do they really think they are?
Bunch of idiots, self-appointed defenders of their fuking Ma... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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Exactly, only Manchus will say something like that.
Those Manchus have the nerve to place themselve to be the center of Chinese
history and call Manchus history in Beijing is "the whole Chinese history".
LOL
That is why those moronic Manchus in Beijing want so much to represent "
China".
Those idiots just short of brain to know that Chinese reach a civilization
so high in Song China that none in the world could ever rival, but only
collapse before Mongol's violence.
Similarly, Ming China defeate... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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Exactly, only Manchus will say something like that.
Those Manchus have the nerve to place themselve to be the center of Chinese
history and call Manchus history in Beijing is "the whole Chinese history".
LOL
That is why those moronic Manchus in Beijing want so much to represent "
China".
Those idiots just short of brain to know that Chinese reach a civilization
so high in Song China that none in the world could ever rival, but only
collapse before Mongol's violence.
Similarly, Ming China defeate... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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True, and much more than that.
Manchus also control propaganda department in Beijing. They are also behind
this so-called 计划生育基本国策。
There is a huge difference between those Manchus in China and Judaism in the
West.
Jewish made and are making huge contribution to society in general.
On the other hand, those Manchus are nothing but talkers, big and empty
talkers. They got nothing but this so called "moral high ground", in control
of idology, propanganda, and now all the idiotmatic shows in mainlan... 阅读全帖
x****u
发帖数: 12955
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He thought he was playing the Manchus, but the Manchus played him
instead.
He either didn't realize what the Manchus were planning to do, or didn't
want to realize it. It's very possible for someone to refuse to believe
he
was fooled until the bitter end, there are way too many examples of that
in
history to count.
That would probably absolve him of "deliberate betrayal", but he did
help
the Manchus. Either way, the only answer for what he did, without
labeling
him a real traitor, is that he... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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来自主题: paladin版 - 北京话东北话里的满语
those manchus can try and try harder on the appearance and that does not
change the fact that they are lower life form
culture is what people do not what they say or what they appear to be.
lower life form is lower life form in the eyes of informed.
however, the problem is some real chinese can be deceived by manchus
appearance.
when a singificant amount of han chinese are deceived by manchus and even
want to emulate those lower life form, that can be a real problem.
see, in almost all the show... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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LoL,
Typical Manchus mentality.
Now that Manchus try to be part of Jewish, because they now perceive there
are so much advantage of being Jewish.
This is exactly what they did about four hundred years ago. They claimed
they are the real Confucius. And lots of Chinese are fooled by their claim
and let them stay in Beijing for this long.
But in the eyes of real Chinese, those Manchus are just bunch of warm like
animal who only care about "吃了吗“。
禽兽之变诈几何哉,只增笑而。
g********y
发帖数: 236
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first of all, are we talking about indiviudal or as a group?
if we talk about individual, there is not doubt Han chinese is the best
among all individuals ever exist in history.
if we talk about chinese as a group, the implication can be much more
complicated.
it is almost a common sense that the west rule the world for now by their "
better organizaion of violence".
Heed the words here, the key word here is "organizaion", not "violence".
In term of self-organizaion, Han chinese could be the wor... 阅读全帖
l***x
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Mongols and Manchus are so different...
Yuan and Qing are so different too...
Manchus were just astonished by the Han Chinese civilization and tried hard
to become a part of it; Mongols first approached Islamic and Christian
civilization before approaching Han Chinese civilization. Those Mongols
ruled middle east and Russia, very much localized. However, the Khan's
family ruled China just kept their culture original.
g********y
发帖数: 236
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When the surprise attack at Pearl Harbor from Japan occurred, Churchill lit
up a cigar and breathed a sigh of relief. At the same time, the French
resistance led by De Gaulle told his follower that they should be ready to
rebuild France.
The so-called anti-Japan sentiment/movement in China is much more
complicated. If we think about it, what exactly is Chinese interest in this
whole mess?
It may seem very easy to identify. 常校长is with USA, CCP is with Russia,
and 汪精卫is with Japan. As we know, 汪精卫... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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来自主题: History版 - 真烦这种吹嘘古中华文明的
that is a tough issue.
let us image a situation, if, by some magic, 蒋经国 was given that kind of
power in mainland as he did in Taiwan, can he accomplish what he did in
Taiwan?
I am not optimistic about that. there are many ways to approach this issue.
my take is to understand the real difference between Taiwan and mainland.
to start, let me emphasis that Taiwan do not have as strong a historical
baggage as mainland has. to most mainlander, Taiwan is nothing but the
defeated GMT. this understandin... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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来自主题: History版 - 真烦这种吹嘘古中华文明的
that is a tough issue.
let us image a situation, if, by some magic, 蒋经国 was given that kind of
power in mainland as he did in Taiwan, can he accomplish what he did in
Taiwan?
I am not optimistic about that. there are many ways to approach this issue.
my take is to understand the real difference between Taiwan and mainland.
to start, let me emphasis that Taiwan do not have as strong a historical
baggage as mainland has. to most mainlander, Taiwan is nothing but the
defeated GMT. this understandin... 阅读全帖
m*********a
发帖数: 3299
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Of China’s two dozen imperial dynasties, most founding rulers were non-Han
or only partly Han.
The Shatuo Turks, related to the Uighurs, founded three post-Tang dynasties.
The Xiongnu, Xianbei, Khitan, Jurchen, and Qiang groups founded major
dynasties in the North and the West. And twice, under the Mongols and
Manchus respectively, the nomads conquered and ruled the whole of China. The
China we know today is a product of their conquests: to prevent nomadic
rivals rising on their flank, the Mongo... 阅读全帖
m****a
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By Anthony W. Ferguson and Warrick H. Chin
Anthony W. Ferguson and Warrick H. Chin, "A Treasury from the East: What We
Can Learn from Chinese Genealogy", Ensign, Oct. 1988, 17
As we Latter-day Saints strive to strengthen our own family history research
skills, we can gain courage from the example of a people who have kept
genealogies on a large scale for thousands of years. Faithfully maintaining
records is not an easy task. But because of their vision and commitment, the
Chinese have carried ou... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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Keep it up, Gan Hong.
You did great and real Chinese will appreciate what you have done to help
them.
Do not let those idiots, trash talks to disrupt you and affect your
performance.
Real Chinese community need more people like you to support each other
because REAL Chinese understand the principle of free trade.
On the contrary, those low life form, worm-like Manchus from the north can
never get it. Some of them have worked for the modern financial industry for
decades, still think like a roach... 阅读全帖
f****e
发帖数: 523
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 为什么要痛恨满族呢?
Some Manchus are good people, but there are many Manchu pigs too. And they
did terrible things to Han Chinese. That's why I hate them.
w*********n
发帖数: 1975
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南蛮分不清这两字的很多。
转舌音,鼻音,儿化音多是Mandarin(Manchus)带进Mandarin来的。其实,Mandarin
里面的同音字比其他方言多得多,其声母韵母也比其他方言都要少。Mandarin就是
Mandarin化/胡化了的汉语,很多原汉语的音他们发不来。但人家是统治种族,
Mandarin是Mandarin官老爷坐在各地衙门里说的,所以就是Official Language,下面
跪着答话的殖民地汉民谁还敢说大人走调了,变腔了?因为都是官老爷说的话,所以也
叫官话,因为是满人说的所以也称满洲话。经过满清国共300余年推动,使中国各地人们
可以互相听得懂了,也时间方便事,只可惜好多唐诗宋词用Mandarin读起来就没有韵味
了。
叫“普通话”太可惜了,都三百年的官话了,给它普通了,就没气势了。还是叫“国语
”吧,多牛B!
g********y
发帖数: 236
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There are some historical anecdotes to ponder upon.
When the A-bombed dropped in Japan and Truman claimed that “we made the 1.3
billion dollars of scientific gamble and we won it”, who was Truman’s
target audience?
Why there were so many prominent politicians from south Asia, someone as
prominent as 甘地, tried hard to help 东条英机 out when he is under war
criminal trial?
After 1989, when the West imposed trade sanction on China, what could have
motivated Japan to be the first one to help China out?
... 阅读全帖
d*****u
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有个现象很有意思,
就是Y染色体C系和D系的,在北亚和东南亚都相对比较多
但是在中国很少
Although Haplogroup C-M130 attains its highest frequencies among the
indigenous populations of Mongolia, the Russian Far East, Polynesia,
Australia, and at moderate frequency in the Korean Peninsula and among the
Manchus, it displays high diversity among modern populations of India.
Like haplogroup C, D-M174 is believed to represent the Great Coastal
Migration along southern Asia, from Arabia to Southeast Asia and thence
northward to populate East Asi... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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来自主题: History版 - 真烦这种吹嘘古中华文明的
Yes and no.
Yes, I agree that 商业文明 is the only way out if East Asia can somehow
reinvent herself.
The point is there are at least several occasion china did come very close
to the evolution to the next stage. There are a lot of study in this field.
My theory is the earliest possible opportunity is in Tang. The building up
was destroyed when 李世民 ordered that 高昌 to be raided.
Then there was Song dynasty, some stories were told by A Stanford professor
with Indian origin in his book "why the west ru... 阅读全帖
g********y
发帖数: 236
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来自主题: History版 - 真烦这种吹嘘古中华文明的
Yes and no.
Yes, I agree that 商业文明 is the only way out if East Asia can somehow
reinvent herself.
The point is there are at least several occasion china did come very close
to the evolution to the next stage. There are a lot of study in this field.
My theory is the earliest possible opportunity is in Tang. The building up
was destroyed when 李世民 ordered that 高昌 to be raided.
Then there was Song dynasty, some stories were told by A Stanford professor
with Indian origin in his book "why the west ru... 阅读全帖
g*******y
发帖数: 202
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http://www.mitbbs.com/news_wenzhang/MiscNews/31239737.html
编者按:中国威风凛凛的崛起经常标上回归历史正常水平。普遍的说法认为在过去5000
年的大部分时间,中国是世界财富、文化、科技和权力的中心。Mitbbs.com
China’s awe-inspiring rise is often framed as the return to a historical
norm. A common belief is that for most of the last 5,000 years, China was
the world’s center of wealth, culture, technology, and power. The 19th and
20th centuries, we are told, were a brief aberration, and China is now
simply retaking its rightful place as the world’s preeminent nation.... 阅读全帖
w*x
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来自主题: History版 - Mandarin一词的由来
wiki上说
"Manchuria" is a translation of the Japanese word Manshū, which dates from
the 19th century. The name Manju was invented and given to the Jurchen
people by Nurhaci, however, the name "Manchuria" was never used by the
Manchus or the Qing dynasty itself to refer to their homeland. According to
the Japanese scholar Junko Miyawaki-Okada, the Japanese geographer Takahashi
Kageyasu was the first to use the term 满洲 (Manshū) as a place-name in
1809 in the Nippon Henkai Ryakuzu, and it was from th... 阅读全帖
w*x
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来自主题: History版 - Mandarin一词的由来
wiki上说
"Manchuria" is a translation of the Japanese word Manshū, which dates from
the 19th century. The name Manju was invented and given to the Jurchen
people by Nurhaci, however, the name "Manchuria" was never used by the
Manchus or the Qing dynasty itself to refer to their homeland. According to
the Japanese scholar Junko Miyawaki-Okada, the Japanese geographer Takahashi
Kageyasu was the first to use the term 满洲 (Manshū) as a place-name in
1809 in the Nippon Henkai Ryakuzu, and it was from th... 阅读全帖
l***x
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hehe...
Mglians never stopped fighting against Manchus, it was a long lasting war
from the very beginning to 1911. Read your own history before you assert.
a******e
发帖数: 1036
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来自主题: History版 - 庚子卫滿战争
1900年英、法、德、美、日、俄、意、奧聯軍自大沽登陸;7月9日,滿軍将领聶士成於
天津城南戰死。14日,聯軍佔領天津;開始時總人數約3萬人,後來增至約5萬人,此後
聯軍陸續增兵至十萬,由京津出兵,分攻山海關等地。同时,俄國從南北兩路派二十餘
萬人進佔滿洲本部。8月4日,北路俄軍攻陷璦琿,直逼齐齐哈尔。8月28日,抵近齐齐
哈尔城,并炮击城内。黑龙江将军 袁寿山(汉軍正白旗)坚守“军覆则死”的诺言,
自卧棺中,命卫士枪击,壮烈殉国。至9月佔領吉林烏拉駐地吉林;南路8月佔據營口,
10月佔領盛京,10月6日兩軍會師,佔據了南滿全境。
人物简介:寿山(1860年-1900年),字眉峰,黑龙江瑷珲人,汉军正白旗。为吉林将
军富明阿之子、明末将领袁崇焕八世孙。清末任黑龙江将军。黑龍江將軍,全稱鎮守黑
龍江等處地方將軍,清代黑龍江地區最高官員,康熙二十二年(1683年)設立,官階為
正一品,乾隆三十二年(1767年)改為從一品比直隶总督高半级。
聂士成(1836年-1900年),字功亭,谥忠节, 满清国人,满军名將,“力勇巴圖魯”
,直隸提督。直隸提督,统领直隶军务的最高军事长官,为从一品。
T... 阅读全帖
o**********e
发帖数: 18403
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来自主题: History版 - 回答道教和佛教的差别 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: Military
标 题: 回答道教和佛教的差别
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 14 21:47:14 2016, 美东)
我来说说。
1. 首先,我对佛教没了解。
因为佛祖没有留下书面文字,
不光如此,连同年代的烙印弟子
敌人学者都没有留下书面文字, 没有
任何佐证,peer review。 所以
佛教所有的早期经典都是口述。 口传最大
的问题就是死无对证,夸大,遗漏,故意
非故意误传谬传。 有1/10是真的,已经很了不起了。
道家道教都是源于道德经。 而道德经
也是老子(本身是史学大牛),根据周朝几百年
积累的皇家传书,甚至集商朝几百年的
历史经验之大成。当时还有很多同时代
的学者分布着周朝首都和各个诸侯国,
所以道德经是经过Peer review的。
2. 道家书传早于佛教书传。
3. Taoism is very individualistic and cares
deeply about liberty and indep... 阅读全帖
w*********g
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为什么亚裔在西方受欺负和歧视?(一个50岁小中的看法)
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。。。。。。
But I am almost 50 years old now. I have seen a lot. If you were my sons, I
would say “Be yourselves. Don’t believe a lot of the stuff the Chinese
world cocoons you in. Take the good, reject the bad. The Manchus screwed up
China because they would not learn from the so-called savage ... 阅读全帖
H****g
发帖数: 14447
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来自主题: Military版 - 马克思与中国鸦片(转) (转载)
这是你引用那段话的全文。请你具体指出,你主贴里说的马克思”赞美“鸦片战争等谬
论是根据那段话”归纳“出来的?
Revolution in China and In Europe
June 14, 1853
A most profound yet fantastic speculator on the principles which govern the
movements of Humanity was wont to extol as one of the ruling secrets of
nature what he called the law of the contact of extremes. The homely proverb
that “extremes meet” was, in his view, a grand and potent truth in every
sphere of life; an axiom with which the philosopher could as little dispense
as the astronomer with... 阅读全帖
g********y
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来自主题: Military版 - 日本这个国家为何如此强大?
Yes, you may be right that Manchus are all dominant in all those areas.
Although I can only speak from direct observations, which is from
observation in media, propaganda, etc.
Then, where are REAL Chinese these days?
Could it be that there is NOT REAL Chinese left anymore in this planet? Just
like there is not REAL Egyptian left in this planet, but only some pyramids
in Egypt that allow human to be aghast?
z****n
发帖数: 486
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来自主题: Military版 - 崖山之后,已无中国
贴三封私信。
大家议下,这人要干嘛。
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寄信人: gnomeisway (因小而大)
标 题: Re: 崖山之后,已无中国
发信站: 未名空间 (Sun Oct 6 15:27:10 2013)
来 源: 207.
well, that is a good one.
my blog can be a good start.
there are a lot of people from Taiwan who are now in USA know everything you
talk about here.
the question is, do you have any access to their thinking.

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寄信人: gnomeisway (因小而大)
标 题: Re: 崖山之后,已无中国
发信站: 未名空间 (Sun Oct 6 20:36:13 2013)
来 源: 207.
better no,
I do not want to deal with those Manchus, ... 阅读全帖
c*********d
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来自主题: Military版 - 鹦鹉学舌的中国式教育
http://cn.nytimes.com/opinion/20150901/c01iht-edgao29/dual/
New York Times ChinaWhy Parrot Beijing’s Line?
By HELEN GAO September 1, 2015
鹦鹉学舌的中国式教育
高雨莘 BEIJING — In the spring of 1999, when I was in fifth grade, my
teacher at my Beijing elementary school gave me an assignment one day after
class. A week earlier, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization had bombed the
Chinese Embassy in Belgrade during the war in Kosovo, killing three Chinese
reporters. Washington called the attack an accident, wh... 阅读全帖
o**********e
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E) E) When Chinese are called evil tyranny undemocratic etc. I'd say:
More than 3000 years ago, the founder of Chinese civilization had an almost
democratic system passing the reign peaceful from elder generation to the
non-biological heir (禅让制,3年服丧自我放逐)
3000 years ago, the Chinese carried out a Marshall Plan (周公) and protected
free speech;
3000 years ago, the Chinese invented Federalism;
2700+ years ago, the Chinese invented stoicism and libertarianism and called
it Daoism.
2600 years ago, th... 阅读全帖
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没错。 日本人的华夏礼仪学了个十足。
“所以说当遣唐使也不是一般人能干的了的,除了有胆识不怕喂鱼之外,还得有文化、
有风度、举止得体、进退有据,这是为了不丢日本人的脸。总之能混在这个圈里的都不
是一般人,他们给中国人也留下了非常深刻的印象,遣唐使成
员之一的伊吉连博德在对比了自己国家派出的人员和其他国家派到唐朝的使节之后也颇
有自得的说:“所朝诸蕃之中,倭最胜。”根据日本自己的记载,第七次遣唐使中的粟
田真人给唐朝留下的印象是最好的,据他们自己回国以后汇报的情况说,唐朝的官员对
粟田真人的印象是:“亟闻海东有大倭国(念起来有点像大倭瓜。。。),谓之君子国
,人民丰乐,礼仪敦行。今看使人仪容大净,岂不信乎。”这是他们自己回去说的自然
全是好听的,比如倭国叫大倭国,唐朝的官员才不会这么叫呢。”
http://www.15yan.com/story/5pp9PhZHujt/
儒家道家其实有很深的反法西斯的文明内涵。
礼节只是最表层。被日本人那个全部买椟还珠。
When Chinese are called tyranny undemocratic etc. I'd email bac... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: FB蹭饭门在国内媒体发酵:老中应对须知
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 6 10:33:57 2015, 美东)
海外IT老中深受其害,都知道把
负面媒体危害尽量减少。 国内
的媒体,却还在炒作。其实也有
教育的意义,但是他们好像比较
偏重于嘲笑弱者。
纸包不住火。 早晚会烧过来。
海外老中早做准备。
1. 帮FB/G 受牵连员工找身份
找工作。 可以考虑DON‘T ASK,
DON'T TELL。 这样没有人需要
撒谎,或者难堪。 招工的方面的
老中,如果被人问到, 可以完全诚实
地说:”这是人家的私事,我不知道“。
2. 应对别人公开的询问,FB/G
老中可以坦荡地考虑以下说法。
A) Well, 9/10 my Chinese friends at Facebook
could be trusted to behave professionally. (meme2)
B) W... 阅读全帖
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其实佛教是个不tribal的宗教。
就是太被动,活死人的奴化宗教了。
标 题: 回答道教和佛教的差别
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 14 21:47:14 2016, 美东)
我来说说。
1. 首先,我对佛教没了解。
因为佛祖没有留下书面文字,
不光如此,连同年代的烙印弟子
敌人学者都没有留下书面文字, 没有
任何佐证,peer review。 所以
佛教所有的早期经典都是口述。 口传最大
的问题就是死无对证,夸大,遗漏,故意
非故意误传谬传。 有1/10是真的,已经很了不起了。
道家道教都是源于道德经。 而道德经
也是老子(本身是史学大牛),根据周朝几百年
积累的皇家传书,甚至集商朝几百年的
历史经验之大成。当时还有很多同时代
的学者分布着周朝首都和各个诸侯国,
所以道德经是经过Peer review的。
2. 道家书传早于佛教书传。
3. Taoism is very individualistic and cares
deeply about liberty and independence.
Earliest Chinese Taoists we... 阅读全帖
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42
来自主题: Military版 - 道教佛教的区别是什么
我来说说。
1. 首先,我对佛教没了解。
因为佛祖没有留下书面文字,
不光如此,连同年代的烙印弟子
敌人学者都没有留下书面文字, 没有
任何佐证,peer review。 所以
佛教所有的早期经典都是口述。 口传最大
的问题就是死无对证,夸大,遗漏,故意
非故意误传谬传。 有1/10是真的,已经很了不起了。
道家道教都是源于道德经。 而道德经
也是老子(本身是史学大牛),根据周朝几百年
积累的皇家传书,甚至集商朝几百年的
历史经验之大成。当时还有很多同时代
的学者分布着周朝首都和各个诸侯国,
所以道德经是经过Peer review的。
2. 道家书传早于佛教书传。
3. Taoism is very individualistic and cares
deeply about liberty and independence.
Earliest Chinese Taoists were not monks,
but performed all professions and sought
to attain the highest individual perfection... 阅读全帖
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发帖数: 18403
43
来自主题: Military版 - 回答道教和佛教的差别
我来说说。
1. 首先,我对佛教没了解。
因为佛祖没有留下书面文字,
不光如此,连同年代的烙印弟子
敌人学者都没有留下书面文字, 没有
任何佐证,peer review。 所以
佛教所有的早期经典都是口述。 口传最大
的问题就是死无对证,夸大,遗漏,故意
非故意误传谬传。 有1/10是真的,已经很了不起了。
道家道教都是源于道德经。 而道德经
也是老子(本身是史学大牛),根据周朝几百年
积累的皇家传书,甚至集商朝几百年的
历史经验之大成。当时还有很多同时代
的学者分布着周朝首都和各个诸侯国,
所以道德经是经过Peer review的。
2. 道家书传早于佛教书传。
3. Taoism is very individualistic and cares
deeply about liberty and independence.
Earliest Chinese Taoists were not monks,
but performed all professions and sought
to attain the highest individual perfection... 阅读全帖
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Why Parrot Beijing’s Line?
By HELEN GAO September 1, 2015
鹦鹉学舌的中国式教育
高雨莘
BEIJING — In the spring of 1999, when I was in fifth grade, my teacher at
my Beijing
elementary school gave me an assignment one day after class. A week earlier,
the North
Atlantic Treaty Organization had bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade
during the war
in Kosovo, killing three Chinese reporters. Washington called the attack an
accident, while
the Chinese public believed it to be a deliberate provocation. I was to
writ... 阅读全帖
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刘三百自恨看不到中华民族的博大精深
>2300+ year history, oldest continuously surviving culture
>Ethnically homogeneous theoughout entire history despite being ruled by two
foriegn powers (Mongols and Manchus)
>Dynasties collapsed numerous times but always the kingdom managed to stay
together
>Had European spheres of influence and Japanese invasion but they never
managed to conquer all of China.
>Was never cucked by Islam or Christianity, still heavily pagan.
>Writing system remains the oldest continuously used wr... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 三年清知府,十万雪花银
For most of the past 2200 years China has been a socioeconomic political
educational scientific and technological superpower. Rather than pursuing
empire, China has been the victim of empires from the Mongols to the Manchus
to the British to the Japanese. Chinese emperors ruled with the Mandate of
Heaven while encouraging merit, competition and innovation in commerce, art,
science and technology.
Xi Jinping is the first Chinese "core leader" since Deng Xiaoping and the
first leader whose thought... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 数据说话:长江水深
THE RECONSTRUCTION OF HANKOW
China's Commercial And Industrial Capital.
From The Far Eastern Review.
Ever since the fateful fire which destroyed the Chinese city of Hankow
during the Revolution of 1911-12 it has been generally known that the
Chinese Government has been desirous of rebuilding the city upon modern
lines and making other improvements in the vicinity compatible with the
importance of such a flourishing commercial and industrial center. It was,
therefore, not surprising when it ... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 1910年的武汉有多牛
THE RECONSTRUCTION OF HANKOW
China's Commercial And Industrial Capital.
From The Far Eastern Review.
Ever since the fateful fire which destroyed the Chinese city of Hankow
during the Revolution of 1911-12 it has been generally known that the
Chinese Government has been desirous of rebuilding the city upon modern
lines and making other improvements in the vicinity compatible with the
importance of such a flourishing commercial and industrial center. It was,
therefore, not surprising when it ... 阅读全帖

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http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/29/the-next-internment-would-chinese-in-the-u-s-be-rounded-up-during-a-war/
The next internment: Would Chinese in the U.S. be rounded up during a war?
Present U.S. leadership seems both to make war more likely through its
bellicose rhetoric and to heighten the risk that the conflict would lead to
violence against the American-Chinese population.
BY THOMAS E. RICKS | JUNE 29, 2017, 10:15 AM
Map_of_World_War_II_Japanese_American_internment_camps
By Giacomo Bagarell... 阅读全帖

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这篇文章对可行性研究进行了分析。
The next internment: Would Chinese in the U.S. be rounded up during a war?
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/29/the-next-internment-would-chinese-in-the-u-s-be-rounded-up-during-a-war/
By Giacomo Bagarella
Best Defense office of future operations
Present U.S. leadership seems both to make war more likely through its
bellicose rhetoric and to heighten the risk that the conflict would lead to
violence against the American-Chinese population.
As the title of one recent book on the s... 阅读全帖
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