i*****e
发帖数: 1694 | 1 Written for Nelson Mandela, when Mr. Mandela was just release and while S.
Africa was still under apartheid... |
|
j******f
发帖数: 228 | 2
People have different situations. They cannot wait until everyone agrees
before protesting right? And there might never be an agreement across ALL
the people, so we should just ignore these people?
Of course not.
Who said that? democracy is about compromise. Both should talk and reach an
agreement.
Of course this has everything to do with right or wrong. People have their
freedom, and if the government (or any institution) tries to encroach it, it
is wrong. Dr. Martin Luther King and Nelson Man... 阅读全帖 |
|
|
o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 4 来自主题: CivilSociety版 - 悼念曼德拉 I admire him for the idea of "Truth and Reconciliation". I dream of one
day, having the same kind of healing process in East Asia, for Chinese and
Taiwanese, Koreans and Japanese.
I dream of one day having a Chinese American leaders of his caliber, someone
equally capable of battling, capable of suffering and capable of
forgiveness.
Until then and since then, we lead ourselves. When our own leaders like
Mandela show up, we will be ready and be deserving.
Call me a dreamer, call me a wrong-he... 阅读全帖 |
|
m*****i
发帖数: 1222 | 5 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101209/lf_nm_life/us_china_nobel_confucius
BEIJING (Reuters) – It was meant to be China's answer to the Nobel Peace
Prize, a timely riposte to the honoring of jailed dissident Liu Xiaobo. But
the winner of the first "Confucius Peace Prize" didn't even bother to show
up.
Instead, it was left to a scared-looking girl, whom organizers did not
properly identify, to collect a stack of bills for the $15,000 cash prize
meant for former Taiwan vice-president Lien Chan.
Lien ... 阅读全帖 |
|
F*V
发帖数: 3978 | 6 【多维新闻】南非总统祖马5日宣布1993年诺贝尔和平奖得主曼德拉已经在家中与世长
辞，享年95岁。奥巴马随后发表讲话悼念曼德拉去世。
综合媒体12月5日报道，南非总统祖马（Jacob Zuma）5日宣布南非史上第一任黑人总统
曼德拉（Nelson Mandela）在家中和平死去。
奥巴马随后在白宫就曼德拉去世发表讲话，“曼德拉从不属于我们，他属于整个时代。”
奥巴马强调，“我们不可能再遇到像曼德拉一样的伟人，所以我们应尽最大努力将曼德
拉树立的榜样发扬光大。”
奥巴马赞颂曼德拉的第一个政治行动是抗议南非种族隔离政策。
此外，奥巴马还提到，“我是无数受到曼德拉鼓舞者之一，和世界众多人士一样，倘若
没有曼德拉所树立的典范，我无法想象自己的生活将会怎样，我将竭尽所能向他学习。”
祖玛宣布将会对曼德拉进行最高规格的国葬。同时，南非政府已将国旗降半悼念死去的
曼德拉。
奥巴马曾于6月30日探访曼德拉遭囚禁18年的罗本岛，并在来宾留言簿上为此行留下注
脚。“我谨代表家人伫立于此，向诸位对抗不义、绝不退让的勇士表达敬意。全世界都
向罗本岛上的英雄们深致谢意；他们也提醒我们，无论是镣铐或囚牢，都比不上... 阅读全帖 |
|
c****s
发帖数: 5892 | 7 【环球华网综合消息】週二下午，多伦多Regent Park发生车祸，一名3岁男孩被汽车撞飞。目前，警方已经封锁了Shuter和Sumach Streets的附近地区。
事故发生在下午2:20左右，当时男孩正走在Nelson Mandela Park Public School附近的人行横道上。警方称，当时人行横道的交通灯显示的是可以过路。
男孩被一辆蓝色的Dodge Caravan箱型车撞出12米远后才落地。
男孩头部和肩膀受重伤，有生命危险，被火速送往病童医院（Sick Kids hospital）。
目前，箱型车的司机仍留在现场，还不清楚警方將对其提出哪些指控。预计，事故路口將关闭至傍晚早些时候。 |
|
c***s
发帖数: 70028 | 8 芸芸中外历史人物中，最受人敬重和被视为邪恶之人会是谁？一项国际调查访问了37个国家约7,000名大学生，发现爱因斯坦、德兰修女和甘地是最受敬重的英雄人物。
调查国家涵盖阿根廷、巴基斯坦、南韩、意大利和美国等地，学生平均年龄是23岁，他们需就40个古今中外的历史人物评分。调查发现，科学家和自由民主斗士最受学生敬重，而十大英雄人物亦同时是十大最受欢迎的历史人物。
令人惊讶的是，美国前总统乔治布殊竟被列为第四大恶魔位，比前苏联领导人史太林和中国前领导人毛泽东的排名还要前。调查员又指，各国学生对英雄的评分相若，但对恶魔人物评分就十分极端，「以拉登为例，他在一些国家评分极为负面，但在其他国家就不算太差，甚至在一些国家评分正面」。
世界历史英雄排名榜
1）物理学家爱因斯坦（Albert Einstein）
2）仁爱女修会创办人德兰修女（Mother Teresa）
3）印度「圣雄」甘地（Mahatma Gandhi）
4）美国黑人民权领袖马丁路德金（Martin Luther King Jr.）
5）物理学家牛顿（Isaac Newton）
6）耶稣（Jesus Christ）
7）南非前总统曼德... 阅读全帖 |
|
t****n
发帖数: 1347 | 9 100. Suleyman 1
99. Vasco da Gama
98. Louis Armstrong
97. Jonas Salk
96. Enrico Caruso
95. Charlie Chaplin
94. AIDS Patient Zero
93. Eleanor Roosevelt
92. Florence Nightingale
91. Steven Spielberg
90. Louis Daguerre
89. Susan B. Anthony
88. J. Robert Oppenheimer
87. Rachel Carson
86. James Joyce
85. Ronald Reagan
84. Guglielmo Marconi
83. Peter the Great
82. Niels Bohr
81. Nelson Mandela
80. Queen Elizabeth I
79. Joseph Stalin
78. Queen Isabella I
77. Thomas Hobbes
76. Beatles
75. Gregory Pincus |
|
|
s********e
发帖数: 13723 | 11 1. Winston Churchill 33.84 1364933
2. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk 33.19 1339039
3. Franklin Roosevelt 12.25 494096
4. Fidel Castro 11.43 461152
5. Vladimir Lenin 2.95 119218
6. Ronald Reagan 2.47 99808
7. Adolf Hitler 0.87 35466
8. Billy Graham 0.82 33073
9. Nelson Mandela 0.23 9670
10.John Kennedy 0.21 8634
http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=4997 |
|
d*****g
发帖数: 1616 | 12 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39569947/ns/world_news-europe/
breaking news
OSLO — Chinese dissident Liu Xiaobo has won the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize, the
committee announced Friday.
Previous winners include President Barack Obama, former Vice President Al
Gore, former President Jimmy Carter, former U.N. Secretary General Kofi
Annan, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., Mother Teresa and former South African
President Nelson Mandela.
In an earlier interview with Norwegian broadcast network NRK, committee
chai... 阅读全帖 |
|
m****t
发帖数: 1672 | 13 Beijing, China (CNN) -- With news media across the globe reacting to this
year's Nobel Peace Prize announcement, authorities in the winner's homeland
are racing to delete his name from all public domains.
Type "Liu Xiaobo" -- or "Nobel Peace Prize," for that matter -- in search
engines in China and hit return, you get a blaring error page.
It's the same for the country's increasingly popular micro-blogging sites. "
Nobel Prize" was the top-trending topic until the authorities acted to
remove all... 阅读全帖 |
|
g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 14 2010
The prize goes to:
LIU XIAOBO for his long and non-violent struggle for fundamental human
rights in China.
2009
The prize goes to:
BARACK OBAMA for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international
diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.
2008
The prize goes to:
MARTTI AHTISAARI for his important efforts, on several continents and over
more than three decades, to resolve international conflicts.
2007
The prize goes to:
INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE (IPCC) and ALBERT ARNOLD... 阅读全帖 |
|
o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 15 Why the Nobel Peace Prize never went to Gandhiji ? We did some research, and
found startling surprises.
Mohandas Gandhi, the Mahatma, 搕he Great Soul was never awarded the Nobel
Peace Prize. He was nominated for it five times in 1937, 1938, 1939, 1947
and, finally, a few days before he was murdered in January 1948. It is
widely held, that the Indian national leader should have been the very man
to be selected for the Nobel Peace Prize.
These questions have been asked frequently: Was the horizon o... 阅读全帖 |
|
x*c
发帖数: 294 | 16 诺贝尔和平奖的目的是推广西方的意识形态，这个不假
但是说“从来就没有被颁发给过一个为反殖民统治，: 反帝国主义而奋斗的英雄”
这个就有问题了
1950 Ralph Bunche
1960 Albert Lutuli
再加上 1993 Nelson Mandela
都是因为反殖民，反种族主义获奖的，重点是都是对非洲特别是南非的殖民统治和种族
隔离的评判和抗争
当然谁最应该得奖可以争论，但是说从来就没有颁发，就不合适了 |
|
xt
发帖数: 17532 | 17 这是一本即将出版的新书，是个在加州的加拿大白人
写的，很有意思。
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com
里面有个很长的list，写了他们喜欢什么，比如这个：
#117 Political Prisoners
For the most part, this list has offered ways to befriend white people one
at a time. However, if you want to befriend a large number of white people
at the same time, the easiest way to do it is to go to jail for political
reasons.
White people love political prisoners because they are individuals who have
been locked up because their beliefs or their presence stands in defiance... 阅读全帖 |
|
m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 18 By TINI TRAN, Associated Press Tini Tran, Associated Press – 18 mins ago
BEIJING – Only three weeks after the idea was first publicly floated, China
has cobbled together its own peace prize and plans to award it Thursday —
the day before the Nobel Committee honors an imprisoned Chinese dissident in
a move that has enraged Beijing.
Since Liu Xiaobo's selection, China has vilified the 54-year-old democracy
advocate, called the choice an effort by the West to contain its rise,
disparaged his suppor... 阅读全帖 |
|
t*******h
发帖数: 2882 | 19 路透北京12月8日电---诺贝尔和平奖颁奖典礼将于周五举行，中国则将在之前一天向台
湾前任副总统连战颁发“孔子和平奖”。
中国对异见人士刘晓波10月获诺贝尔和平奖表示强烈不满，称将和平奖授予中国政府认
为的颠覆分子及罪犯是对该奖项的“亵渎”。
《环球时报》三周前刊文主张中国设立孔子和平奖。
主办机构周三在邮件声明中称：“这是和平回应2010年诺贝尔和平奖的方式……目的
是阐述中国人对和平的看法。”
孔子和平奖颁奖典礼将于周四在北京举行，次日刘晓波将在奥斯陆被正式授予诺贝尔和
平奖。但刘晓波本人及妻子未获批前往奥斯陆。
共有六人被提名首届孔子和平奖，其他五名候选人为：巴勒斯坦领导人阿巴斯（
Mahmoud Abbas）、南非前总统曼德拉（Nelson Mandela）、微软创始人盖茨（Bill
Gates）、中国诗人谯达摩及藏传佛教班禅喇嘛。
孔子和平奖颁奖典礼邀请函是由文化部所签发。（完） |
|
m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 20 BEIJING (Reuters) – It was meant to be China's answer to the Nobel Peace
Prize, a timely riposte to the honoring of jailed dissident Liu Xiaobo. But
the winner of the first "Confucius Peace Prize" didn't even bother to show
up.
Instead, it was left to a scared-looking girl, whom organizers did not
properly identify, to collect a stack of bills for the $15,000 cash prize
meant for former Taiwan vice-president Lien Chan.
Lien had won the prize for his efforts to improve relations between China
and... 阅读全帖 |
|
t*******h
发帖数: 2882 | 21 Chinese spy' allegations rock Tibetans
By Saransh Sehgal
DHARAMSALA, India - The 25-year-old 17th Gyalwang Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley
Dorje, Tibetan Buddhism's third-highest lama, is making headlines after
Indian police raided the Gyuto Tantric monastery - his temporal base in
Dharamsala, the de facto capital of Tibetan exiles - and seized a large
amount of foreign currency.
Indian police officials say that a sum worth around US$777,000 in nearly two
dozen foreign currencies was seized last Wednesda... 阅读全帖 |
|
r*s
发帖数: 2555 | 22 http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/25/us/dalai-lama-inteview/index.html
When asked what world leaders he admired, he mentioned former South African
President Nelson Mandela. He also praised former U.S. President George W.
Bush, even though he didn't always agree with his policies.
"Not as a president of America. Some of his policies may not be very
successful," the Dalai Lama said. "But as a person, as a human being, very
nice person. I love him." |
|
m*****n
发帖数: 259 | 23 外界关注前南非总统曼德拉病重的消息。俄媒指出，南非在曼德拉死后将出现种族屠杀
事件，而超过80万的南非白人已经做好撤离的准备。
据俄罗斯之声10月25日报道，一旦前南非总统曼德拉（Nelson Mandela）去世，南非可
能出现针对白人的种族大屠杀，而超过80万身处南非的白人遭已准备好撤离计划。
白人集体性恐慌来自南非1948年到1994年的种族歧视政策。在这些政策中，在数量上占
据绝对优势的南非黑人居民的权利被削弱，而数量处于弱势的白人依然统治着南非。南
非政府在教育、医疗、海滩以及其他公共服务上给予白人优越的对待，而黑人只能拥有
次一级的服务。
由于曼德拉已经病入膏肓，临近死亡，南非白人已经做好最坏打算。2012年南非总统祖
马（Jacob Zuma）就在公众唱歌骂白人，并扬言要报复。祖马唱：“你们是白人，我们
准备打你们。”
种族屠杀观察组织（Genocide Watch）分析后指出，南非白人遭受中途屠杀的危险级别
为第6级，即“准备阶段”。最高危险级别第7级为“杀戮阶段”。
媒体今日俄罗斯（RT）10月24日报道，南非种族屠杀逃亡计划策划人马瑞（Coenie
Maree）说：... 阅读全帖 |
|
b******g
发帖数: 780 | 24 Boston地区群众正考虑在Boston Globe上打广告——若一周内(11月17日)可以搞到$
25000捐款
若一周之内可以筹集$50,000，CYPD就在New York Times上打广告
http://www.cypn.net/
很多朋友说主流媒体不报道此事，那我们就自己集资打广告让全美国知道此事，也让世
人看到华人的团结——这才是最可怕之处。若让天下人都知道，ABC和Jimmy Kimmel就
会面对巨大的公关甚至经济压力。试想某日清晨，ABC CEO办公桌上放着这样一张广告
的效果。
我已捐$500，请大家努力follow。（我毫无要求大家match或超过我的意思，只是为了
吸引士气而自爆.吾非大款，一介码工.）
世界各民族为同胞奋斗的勇士，南非黑人领袖Nelson Mandela, 美国黑人民权领袖
Martin Luther King, Jr., 印度圣雄Gandhi, 韩国前总统金大中，都为同胞的自由平
等坐过牢。更不用说苏格兰英雄Willam Wallace(《勇敢的心》!)，法国圣女貞德，戊
戌六君子，四行仓库八百壮士，的流血牺牲。
今天为了在美华人特别是我们... 阅读全帖 |
|
p********7
发帖数: 18007 | 25 Sure, a near example is South Africa, lets see what will be happening after
Mandela passes away, which will be a test stone of your claim. |
|
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 26 【多维新闻】南非总统祖马5日宣布1993年诺贝尔和平奖得主曼德拉已经在家中与世长
辞，享年95岁。奥巴马随后发表讲话悼念曼德拉去世。
综合媒体12月5日报道，南非总统祖马（Jacob Zuma）5日宣布南非史上第一任黑人总统
曼德拉（Nelson Mandela）在家中和平死去。
奥巴马随后在白宫就曼德拉去世发表讲话，“曼德拉从不属于我们，他属于整个时代。”
奥巴马强调，“我们不可能再遇到像曼德拉一样的伟人，所以我们应尽最大努力将曼德
拉树立的榜样发扬光大。”
奥巴马赞颂曼德拉的第一个政治行动是抗议南非种族隔离政策。
此外，奥巴马还提到，“我是无数受到曼德拉鼓舞者之一，和世界众多人士一样，倘若
没有曼德拉所树立的典范，我无法想象自己的生活将会怎样，我将竭尽所能向他学习。”
祖玛宣布将会对曼德拉进行最高规格的国葬。同时，南非政府已将国旗降半悼念死去的
曼德拉。
奥巴马曾于6月30日探访曼德拉遭囚禁18年的罗本岛，并在来宾留言簿上为此行留下注
脚。“我谨代表家人伫立于此，向诸位对抗不义、绝不退让的勇士表达敬意。全世界都
向罗本岛上的英雄们深致谢意；他们也提醒我们，无论是镣铐或囚牢，都比不上... 阅读全帖 |
|
S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 27 The practice (necklacing) became a common method of lynching among black
South Africans during disturbances in South Africa in the 1980s and 1990s.
The first recorded instance took place in Uitenhage on 23 March 1985. So I
guess Mr. Mandela's jailor freed him to let him necklacing people. |
|
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 28 President Barack Obama ordered flags at the White House and other public and
military facilities to be flown at half-staff through sunset on December 9
to honor the passing of Nelson Mandela. |
|
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 29 【多维新闻】南非总统祖玛宣布前总统曼德拉逝世之后，奥巴马随即发表演讲表示哀悼
，随后美国第一夫人米歇尔也在推特上表示哀悼。
米歇尔（Michelle Obama）5日就曼德拉（Nelson Mandela）的逝世发表推文说：“我
们将永远从曼德拉具有道德力量、仁慈善意和人性光辉的身上获得力量和启示。”
南非总统祖玛于当地时间5日发表全国讲话，宣布南非前总统曼德拉逝世，享年95岁，
举国哀悼。 |
|
g**1
发帖数: 10330 | 30 陆悼曼德拉 网民引刘晓波嘲讽
【中央社□北京6日综合外电报导】
2013.12.06 03:33 pm
中国大陆今天哀悼南非反种族隔离英雄曼德拉（Nelson Mandela）逝世，不过大陆仍有
多位异议人士遭监禁或长年骚扰，引发微博网友讥讽。
大陆国家主席习近平在给南非总统朱玛（JacobZuma）的唁电里，赞美曼德拉「领导南
非人民经过艰苦卓绝的努力，取得反种族隔离斗争的胜利」。
根据新华社，习近平说「中国人民将永远铭记他为中南关系，和人类进步事业作出的卓
越贡献」。
大陆民众则透过新浪微博表达哀悼之意，但许多网民对政府的悼念之词有意见，特别是
大陆诺贝尔和平奖得主刘晓波仍在狱中。
1名网民写：「我们追悼一位尊重人权、自由、平等且为之奋斗的人，但中国的曼德拉
做了与南非曼德拉一样的事情，却被监禁，真是讽刺。」这则发文被广泛转贴，显然是
指刘晓波。微博封锁刘晓波的名字。
另一人写道：「如果曼德拉是中国人，他早被打死。」
另一位微博用户写说：「中国不缺曼德拉和翁山苏姬这样的人，不同的是这两人最後都
获释了，而在中国，这样的人一旦进了大牢，从此就消失无踪。」
其他网民说，大陆外交部致哀时... 阅读全帖 |
|
b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 31 Reagan’s embrace of apartheid South Africa
His foreign policy legacy includes an alliance with a racist government
Justin Elliott
Topics: The Real Reagan, War Room, Politics News
Reagan's embrace of apartheid South AfricaStudent demonstrators at
Johannesburg's Witwatersrand University flee as police fire tear gas at them
during an anti-apartheid protest rally August 31, 1989.
The regime of apartheid in South Africa, under which nonwhites were
systematically oppressed and deprived of their rights... 阅读全帖 |
|
T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 32 虽然没真全家，但前第一夫人给老黑勒死了，被指控强奸，但法庭不认（政治影响？）
，最后老黑在法庭上大义凛然毫无悔意，判了终身，现在不知出来没。
De Klerk killer 'gets life'
A security guard found guilty of murdering the ex-wife of former South
African President, FW de Klerk, has been sentenced to life in prison.
FW and Marike de Klerk
The former first lady battled depression in her later years
Marike de Klerk, 64, was found stabbed and strangled in her luxury Cape Town
flat in December 2001.
The Cape High Court sentenced Luyanda Mboniswa, 22, to one life term for
murd... 阅读全帖 |
|
|
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 34 Dharamsala (India) (AFP) - The Dalai Lama, who has twice since 2009 been
denied a visa for South Africa, is not planning to attend his fellow Nobel
laureate Nelson Mandela's funeral, his spokesman said Sunday. |
|
w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 35 曼德拉的社会主义失败
字号:小中大2013-12-09 14:39:49
更多
44
关键字 >> 曼德拉齐泽克社会主义南非种族隔离制度曼德拉逝世曼德拉去世资本主义市
场观察者译文
在纳尔逊•曼德拉的最后二十年里，他被誉为楷模，克制着独裁统治的诱惑和反
资本主义的态度，把南非从殖民主义的枷锁中解放出来。简言之，曼德拉不是穆加贝（
津巴布韦总统——观察者网译注），南非保留了多党民主制，媒体自由，经济蓬勃发展
，与全球市场融洽接轨，排斥草率的社会主义试验。现在，随着曼德拉的去世，圣人般
的睿智形象似乎被永远定格在那里：好莱坞有关于他的电影，扮演者摩根•弗里
曼也曾在其他电影中饰演过上帝；摇滚明星、宗教领袖、运动员、政客（包括比尔&#
8226;克林顿和菲德尔•卡斯特罗）都对曼德拉的逝世表示哀悼。
然而，这是故事的全部吗？有两个关键的事实被悼念活动所掩盖。大部分南非人都还很
穷，与种族隔离时期一样，他们仍然生活在水深火热中；政治权利和公民权利的提升被
日益严重的社会不安全感、暴力和犯罪抵销了。最主要的变化在于，原先处于统治地位
的白种人现在加入了黑人精英。... 阅读全帖 |
|
l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 36 还真是。达赖被南非政府两次拒签
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/09/dalai-lama-nelson-mand
NEW DELHI (AP) — A spokesman says the Dalai Lama will not attend memorial
services for fellow Nobel Peace Prize laureate Nelson Mandela in South
Africa, where the Buddhist spiritual leader has twice been unable to obtain
a visa.
要不是曼德拉的面子，西媒又得骂中国鸭霸了 |
|
D********r
发帖数: 522 | 37 At least send several former leader who had political interactions with
Mandela on during their term. |
|
|
C****g
发帖数: 2220 | 39 【视频：李源潮出席曼德拉追悼会 英语致辞】12月10日，国家副主席李源潮出席在南
非举行的曼德拉追悼会并代表中国致辞。李源潮最后以一句英文结束致辞："Finally,I
'd like to say although the great man has left ,Mandela thought and spirit
will live forever" |
|
T***S
发帖数: 764 | 40 奥巴做的不错，拿了和平奖了就要争取多做有利于世界和平的事情。 |
|
|
g******l
发帖数: 5103 | 42 obama speaks the truth
words
for |
|
s*****k
发帖数: 99 | 43 现在西媒把这三个人并列：
Gandhi, King and Mandela, these 3 names will go down in history as the
people who defined civil rights of the 20th century。 |
|
s*****k
发帖数: 99 | 44 那秃头不会是下一个。因为没有选民基础。
黑人越多的民选国家越是推崇 MANDELA。 |
|
s*****i
发帖数: 1170 | 45 你还是没弄清楚，南非在取消种族隔离前已经独立了，只不过是白人政府，根本不存在
什么殖民问题。最后一位白人政府总统是克勒克。取消种族隔离后，黑人把南非又叫新
南非，Mandela 是新南非国父。 |
|
s*****i
发帖数: 1170 | 46 你还是没弄清楚，南非在取消种族隔离前已经独立了，只不过是白人政府，根本不存在
什么殖民问题。最后一位白人政府总统是克勒克。取消种族隔离后，黑人把南非又叫新
南非，Mandela 是新南非国父。 |
|
s*****i
发帖数: 1170 | 47 英美是欺压南非最为严重的国家，把Mandela列为恐怖分子的就是美国，如果不是因为
O8是个黑人，或是因为政治利益的考虑，音美连逼都不装的。三位前总统，一位现总统
，装的有点过啦。 |
|
g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 48 这个没办法.老将的主子一直跟种族隔离政权穿一条裤子.
of
Upon
he |
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 49 太搞笑了，中国人民的民族解放已经早就完成了，至于各类不爽的人，还真不能用曼德
拉来类比的 |
|
|
