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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 6 VOA Chinese, Aug 11, 2011.
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news
/20110811-Russia-react-to-China-carrier-127515058.html
("俄罗斯公报说，中国仿制了俄罗斯的苏-33舰载战斗机并命名为歼-15。但中国的歼-
15仍处在开发阶段，在近期内不会在航母上起降。 * * * 商人日报援引俄国军事评论
人士的话说，中国无法批量生产歼-15舰载战斗机")
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(1) Jeremy Page, China Flexes Naval Muscle. Wall Street Journal, Aug 10,
2011.
Quote:
"The Pentagon is also playing down the carrier's significance. Some US
officials privately question the quality of Chinese engineering, whic... 阅读全帖 |
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S**b
发帖数: 1883 | 7 Massive Uprising Continues As British Government Begins Crackdown
Protests in London spread to more cities as students, government workers,
businessmen, and people from all walks of life took to the streets of
major British cities and demanded accountability and transparency in the
wake of recent brutal killing of a 29 year old man in Tottenham a week ago.
Today, London is in complete lockdown as state security forces, equipped
with batons, tasers, and pistols, flooded the streets to prevent wha... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 8 (1) Please excuse me for being blunt. China is hopeless.
Ancient China was creative, leading the world in numerous inventions. But
nothing from China in the past five centuries has shaken the world.
China has only itself to blame. In the period,
(a) China has not encouraged its citizenry to invent. Imagine a Chinese
developed something novel, he would not receive a penny. Why should he
brainstorm?
(b) Infringements of intellectual property right is no news in China,
scaring off domestic and fore... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 9
Guangzhou was the most important and wealthy trading city in entire China
before 1840's. Without the Opium war, it would still maintain that status. |
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发帖数: 26222 | 10 流传很久的是， 米犹有建立world government的计划， 毁灭单个的国家政府， 而把
全世界置于米犹的控制之下。
这和正在发生的事情非常相似。
GEORGE SOROS AND THE ROTHSCHILD CONNECTION
Who was George Soros?
[H: Better yet: Who IS this man? Meet one of the most prominent of the
players in your downfall. He very much ‘was’ but he also IS and did, in
fact wreck the economy of Southeast Asia in very short order. He is a top
player in such as Bilderbergers and all the other controlling groups while
doing nothing “illegal”. But then no one can do anything illegal i... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********n
发帖数: 4050 | 11 Now you can believe Mao was selling opium in YanAn |
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发帖数: 17532 | 13 你这种思维定势不对。
你应该哼哼教导你的同事：英国鸦片战争是推行自由贸易，是符合普世
价值的。 |
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发帖数: 901 | 15 addicted to the printing machines like opium...so easy, so rewarding |
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发帖数: 901 | 16 据英国《每日邮报》2月15日报道，英国警方突袭伯明翰市一家妓院时，解救出一名被
关在笼子里的18岁华裔女性奴。
据悉，此事是伯明翰市圣·玛丽慈善修道院(St Mary's Convent of Mercy)的修女
海伦·赖安(Helen Ryan)披露的。赖安一直在为拐卖受害者提供帮助。她说：“我现在
正在照顾一名来自中国的女孩。警察是在妓院的笼子里发现她的。当时她甚至不知道自
己身处哪个国家。她只有18岁，现在她安全了。”
慈善机构称，每年有100多名年轻受害者被拐入英国中西部城市，沦为长期遭受性
剥削和虐待的性奴。
赖安称：“在许多案件中，犯罪团伙用毒品控制女孩，让她们染上毒瘾后强迫她们
参与性交易。这种强迫女孩卖淫的妓院遍布全市，但大多数集中在市中心地区。大多数
人来自远东和非洲，我们也发现过来自东欧国家的受害者。” |
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发帖数: 901 | 19 Chinese "Holy"wood, like BBC, will not be interested |
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发帖数: 901 | 21 Aussie father locked and had 7 kids with daughters for 24 years.
Josef Fritzl admits he not only locked his 19-year-old daughter Elisabeth in
a homemade dungeon, but that he also “fathered” seven children with her
acting as midwife.
According to the Austrian Times, Josef warned his daughter and the three
children sentenced to remain below, that the cellar-dungeon was booby
trapped. Police took this threat seriously as Josef was a qualified
electrician as well as a retired engineer in constructio... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 901 | 22 No one can beat this Aussie animal. |
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M*****n
发帖数: 16729 | 23 this is like opium trade 150 years ago.
us movies will destroy china. |
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w****n
发帖数: 25644 | 25 卡尔·马克思在１８５３七月２２日 纽约每日论坛报的一篇文章中写道：
“无论他们认为是什么社会、宗教、朝代、或国家形态的原因，导致了中国过往十
年来的慢性反抗，以及现在聚为一体的强大变革，这个暴动的发生，无疑得益于英国的
大炮将一种名叫鸦片的催眠药品强加给中国。在英国的武力面前，满清王朝的权威倒下
成为碎片；天朝永恒的迷信破碎了；与文明世界隔绝的野蛮和密封被侵犯了；而开放则
达成了，这才有了在加州和澳洲黄金吸引下急速开展的交流活动（指中国奴工被“卖猪
仔”到外国采金矿）。与此同时，大英帝国的生命血液 --- 银币，便开始被吸取到英
属东印度了。
Karl Marx wrote in a July 22, 1853 article in the New York Daily Tribune:
"Whatever be the social causes, and whatever religious, dynastic, or
national shape they may assume, that have brought about the chronic
re... 阅读全帖 |
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b******e
发帖数: 88 | 27 你去过英国或者看一样wiki就知道了
真是无知者无畏
其实你不如说那些升起来的烟囱以及炼钢就是在造枪炮，也是honor the opium war |
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b******e
发帖数: 88 | 28 还有，要说到双重含义的话，还是炼钢更确切一些，钢就是可以用来造枪炮的
反而那个红色poppy的种类Papaver rhoeas是不能用来做opium的，做鸦片那个是
Papaver somniferum。所以说，想做喷子也应该读点书，不读书至少也应该会用wiki，
不用wiki至少也应该虚心请教别人，以免暴露自己文盲的特征。 |
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发帖数: 2220 | 29 Plan B for China's Wealthy: Moving to the U.S., Europe
By JEREMY PAGE
BEIJING—This time last year, Shi Kang considered himself a happy man.
Writing 15 novels had made him a millionaire. He owned a luxury apartment
and a new silver Mercedes. He was so content with his carefree life in
Beijing that he never even traveled overseas.
Best-selling writer Shi Kang is one of a growing number of Chinese
millionaires looking to leave China, in search of a better life and a
healthier environment for their ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 901 | 30 Happier times … Eva and Hans Rausing attend a fashion show in the 1990s.
Photo: AP
汉斯·克里斯蒂安·劳辛，现年49岁，全球饮料软包装供应商利乐包装公司继承人，英
国境内最富裕人士之一。
他8月1日就没有给予妻子埃娃·劳辛“合法、体面的葬礼”认罪，由英国首都伦敦一家
法庭判处10个月监禁，监外执行。
“彻底毁灭”
法庭上，法官理查德·麦格雷戈—约翰逊评价道，“如果有那么一种形象图解，显示使
用毒品对个人及其家庭所造成的彻底毁灭影响，那一定可以在本案事实中找到。”
劳辛落网，是因为警方人员7月9日在伦敦南部发现他所驾驶的车辆状态不稳，怀疑他酗
酒或者吸毒。截停车辆后，警方发现他持有少量毒品。搜查事主的住所，警方意外发现
埃娃的尸体。
警方随后正式逮捕劳辛，理由是他涉嫌杀害48岁的妻子。
尸检确认，埃娃5月7日死亡，即警方发现她的尸体两个月前。她的体内存有可卡因和其
他毒品，直接死因是心脏衰竭和毒品作用。
劳辛被捕后向警方陈述，他先前没有向妻子提供毒品。
他上一次被捕是在2008年7月，缘由是妻子前往美国驻英... 阅读全帖 |
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l******j
发帖数: 1728 | 32 鸦片女皇的臣民遍布海内外啊！日不落大烟帝国，真是西方文明的典范。
long-live narco-queen,and the United Kingdom of Opium! |
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l******j
发帖数: 1728 | 33 日不落大烟帝国，真是西方文明的典范。
long-live narco-queen,and the United Kingdom of Opium! |
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发帖数: 901 | 34 海伍德的友人对法庭上检方陈述案情的一些关键内容提出质疑，特别是有关海伍德威胁
薄瓜瓜的人身安全。《华尔街日报》援引海伍德一位朋友表示，他难以想象海伍德会对
薄瓜瓜的安全构成威胁。"他是瓜瓜多年来忠实的好朋友，也是他在英国读书时的'辅导
员'，无论有什么样的生意纠葛，他对薄瓜瓜一直像一位'叔叔'一样。"
报道称，海伍德的家人及其律师和薄瓜瓜都拒绝就这一案件以及两人间的关系发表
评论。曾派出两名外交官参加在合肥庭审的英国政府表示，在案件宣判之前不予置评。
"完全与他的性格不符"
检方称，由于在重庆的地产交易失败，海伍德向薄家索要1300万英镑的应得份额。
海伍德的另一位友人表示，海伍德似乎确与薄家有生意上的纠纷，并认为对方欠他钱款
，但并没有透露过争议的细节。
薄瓜瓜是否受到了海伍德的威胁？
检方称海伍德多次威胁薄瓜瓜，并将其软禁在英国的寓所中。薄瓜瓜有一次在电话
中对母亲谷开来说，他被海伍德"绑架"，以致谷开来陷入焦虑并决定杀死海伍德。海伍
德的另一位朋友对《华尔街日报》表示，绑架一说完全不符合海伍德的性格，"我无法
想象他会不顾别人的意愿把人关起来"。这位朋友说，薄家人里，海伍德唯一还... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 16371 | 35 中国司法制度不透明，不完善，英美很容易发出质疑
这里提到的质疑看一下的话是有道理的 （虽然我算是挺薄的，但这里的质疑明显对博
士不利的）
我个人认为，目前对命案的审理，明显是一种妥协的结果。基本上做到了把风波的影响
放小
处理尺度上有一定的空间。
薄也没有被打死。
这里的政治风险很大，如果薄真是个贪赃枉法的人，（野心其实到没什么错）
这里的处置基本把对薄的一些说法判定是谣言，如果将来有反弹将会比没有这个风波来
得更大。希望通过这个风波整死左派的可能会某一天遭受到过多的清算。
如果整个对薄的说法基本都是陷害，那么现今的做法就让谷开来蒙冤。
真正的真相是什么，我们p民可能永远不能知道。
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k*****a
发帖数: 7389 | 36 克里's grandparent funded the opium war? |
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发帖数: 901 | 37 David Cameron on Wednesday became the first serving British prime minister
to voice regret about one of the bloodiest episodes in colonial India, a
massacre of unarmed civilians in the city of Amritsar in 1919.
The killings, known in India as the Jallianwala Bagh massacre, were
described by Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the Indian independence movement,
as having shaken the foundations of the British Empire. A group of soldiers
opened fire on an unarmed crowd without warning in the northern Indi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 901 | 38 massacres in India must have killed millions. This article says "hundreds in
cold blood". |
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发帖数: 901 | 39 British Prime Minister David Cameron says a giant diamond his country forced
India to hand over in the colonial era that was set in a royal crown will
not be returned.
Speaking on the third and final day of a visit to India aimed at drumming up
trade and investment, Cameron ruled out handing back the 105-carat Koh-i-
Noor diamond, now on display in the Tower of London. The diamond had been
set in the crown of the current Queen Elizabeth's late mother.
One of the world's largest diamonds, some In... 阅读全帖 |
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i*****s
发帖数: 4596 | 40 this was 1875, 35 years after 1840. do you know how long that was? 35
years ago from now was 1978, a totally different world. opium was legal in
both britain and the states before 1840.
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i*****s
发帖数: 4596 | 41 thats why we should read history first, and from different sources.
backward countries were "backward" for a reason. they were never as
rational as you may thought, otherwise they would not be so backwards. as
for the opium wars, the british people found that it was extremely hard to
communicate with the chinese central government, if not impossible. if they
didn't resort to some kind of force, they would NEVER receive any response
from the chinese government.
Nothing
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 42 It's China. I do not see many Chinese happy about the loss of Opium War.
wrong, |
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 43 In US, yes. I will give you a warning shot first, like burning your opium,
then meet force with force.
You can extend such example to countries. |
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S*****n
发帖数: 4185 | 44 Because you are a manyi, or brainwashed by manyi's shit.
The fact is, without this war in the excuse of opium, you still have to keep
a pigtail behind your brain and koutou to Man nobles. That's the truth.
Give me a reason, why are you mourning so painful for Man's loss? strange,
isn't? Should you mourn for Jap's loss in pacific war? |
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发帖数: 4385 | 45 you should stick to the simple question we are discussing now, you are
straying too much. Let me reformulate the discussion thread here:
(1) FACT: usa is the second in the line to dump opium in just in the 19
century
(2) Opinion: Is it moral for American to do that based on common sense?
its
same
products
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i*****s
发帖数: 4596 | 46 my point is very clear. qing government didn't represent chinese people's
interest. the opium war is a loss of qing government, not the chinese
people. you guys act like you feel insulted. frankly, i don't quite
understand. why do you care so much for a government that first invade
china with force and then ruled with ignorance. could you give me a good
reason? |
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 47 First, UK merchants did not think selling opium to Chinese is right, but
just profitable. In fact, they realized the negative consequence very well.
It is not a 7 yrs old Dutch selling weeds for fun, but a drug dealer dealing
drugs in US' backyard. Force will meet force.
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i*****s
发帖数: 4596 | 48 let me put it this way.
let's think about 2 possibilities:
1' the opium war never happened and china remain almost the same as 170
years ago, this assumption is valid because this was what the qing
government wanted and it had the measures to maintain this situation,
without foreign countries' involvement, of course.
2,the real history.
which one you prefer more? it is not a standard of today or the 19th
century, just as a normal chinsese person, with a common sense, which one do
you prefer?
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p******o
发帖数: 9007 | 49 On the account of Opium, Qing was definitely acting in the best interest of
Chinese people.
Second, drug dealers are selling you drugs. It is fair trade, market force,
supply and demand, competition, blah blah, it is not robbery, wait why cops
are closing in?
answer
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b******3
发帖数: 4385 | 50 3, if a government is not representative the common people, you are saying
it is justified for the the foreign countries to explore this country,right,
remind you again , please stick to the question?
4. trade? opium for tea, China , , is this the way you call trade, where is
your head,
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