v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 1 thank you, this is big for me since i never made birdie on par3 before. my
previous only birdie was 298 par4 drove to green side. Here are some
pictures. |
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y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 2 太厉害了. 这可是只鹰啊! 祝贺一下! 希望某日也能有幸见一次鹰.
这么糙的果岭,也能一杆推进,肯定是老虎附体了.
我今天的第二次四竿洞一竿上果岭， 但前一个只是个254 YARD UPHILL PAR4 HOLE
HIGH BACK GREEN. 非常激动， 决定非常认真的推这个EAGLE PUTT, 我干脆躺在地上读
，
PUTT!!! I STARTED JUMPING ON THE GREEN.... |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 3 I have a hard time hitting my 3 wood at times, but I have it in the bag for
par 5s and long par4s. I tried a 16 degree utility club to replace my 3 wood
for a while. It didn't work out with the distance I need from a 3 wood. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 4 230 is ok la
Winter or summer?
To me, 400 - 260 pretty much can cover most par4
And 500 - 260 - 200 can cover all the par5
So increase 20 yards on driver is much more useful and easier than trying to
increase iron distance. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 5 Finally I played Poppy Hills, that is only course i played on Monterey bay
so far.
since the weather has been dry for few weeks, the course was dry. i didnt
experience the wet course as you described. There are pros and cons for that.
pros: ball would stay on fairway, instead of being stuck in mud.
cons: the green was super fast. the front 9 would be the fastest green i
putted. the back 9 is fast too, but i guess i already get used to it after
many many 3-putts in the front 9.
i forgot to bring ... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 6 你的朋友估计还没有掌握iron 的打法。driver 跟iron 感觉还是差别大一点。
还有350 是加上滚动的距离吧？还有amateur 经常overestimate distance.
dustin johnson bubba watson driver max out 也就 320 - 350， 加上滚动， 偶尔
可以 350+. pgatour 关于320+的统计：
http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?02433
dustin johnson 的iron club distance: 3iron - 260, 6iron - 230 (us open), 7 iron - 210 (bmw), 9iron - 170-180
昨天下班去了另外一个range， 用8iron, 打击的好的时候， 落点在170 flag back green. 弹道高， 不是那种low fly. 7iron 落点上194flag green.
driver 开始打击的较烂， 后来调整可以hit straight. 估计carry 250 多， 停在270 多巴... 阅读全帖 |
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y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 7 你的铁杆距离着实厉害。 我的朋友是SCRATCH PLAYER，常参加LOCAL比赛。他打350码
是不常见的，那次把球打到了网外的街上。 320他倒是常能打到。他说他的DRIVING距
离在PGA中属于TOP 10。 他用我的3号木也能把球打出网子，至少是有300码。他的铁杆
是STIFF SHAFT。照你说的数据，他的铁杆距离还差得远。 你铁杆的准确率如何？ 100
码和150码，打十个球有几个能落在5码之内？
还有350 是加上滚动的距离吧？还有amateur
经常overestimate distance.
dustin johnson bubba watson driver max out 也就 320 - 350， 加上滚动， 偶尔
可以 350+.
pgatour 关于320+的统计：
http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?02433
dustin johnson 的iron club distance:
3iron - 260
6iron - 230 (us open)
7 iron - 210 (bmw)
9iron - 17... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 8 终于去bridges 打了一场。 动作还是不太稳定。 good shots bad shots 交错。
short game 手感全无， score suffers. 但是其本上打出了range 练习时的距离。
打的最好的是#18， from blue tee 447 yard par 4 , 以前最为恐惧的420以上
par4. 终于put 2 good shots in a row --- driver + 8iron to left fringe
passing flag. bad chip, but made a good long putt to tap in distance. this
is a very tough course (rating > 140), 虽然没有water hazard, 但是到处是灌木
和峡谷， 球掉进去就找不到。 所以拿 bogey 也满足了。 |
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 9 by shooting a 16 for par4 hole |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 10 exactly. in the past 10 rounds, got many chances to reach par5 in 2 (range practice best shot distance for long iron hybrid fw). but always mess up hybrid, long iron or fairway woods for approach.
long par4 (400+ yard ) in 2 倒是比以前多多了, 毕竟wedge/short/mid iron 好打一些。
so i guess consistency & long hitting & decent short game & patience --->
frequent birdie @ par5.
not 2on green, as long as 2nd shot to chip or shot pitch distance, still
high probablity to score birdie. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 11 沙坑 不能club 碰砂， 不好做 preshot rehearse. 但是花点时间一边练一边琢磨
bunker skills. 提高比driver 290容易多了。
没多少人能driver 290吧， 你这能drive 很多par4 green了吧。 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 12 当我能开出260到270码时，短打一塌糊涂。当我短打推杆有进步时，我又开不出那么远
了，长Par4也很难两杆上岭了。这高尔夫还真不是让咱这吃五谷杂粮玩的，嘿！ |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 13 我可以 偶尔drive 280, 好的球有 260左右的carry.但是consistency 不行。
上次在bridges drive 276 par 4, tee ball into hole high green side bunder.
但是一个260 多的par4 又 short of green.
我觉的我的back swing top 的位置太不稳定了。 昨天注意到这一点才用4iron 上 218 green. 但是还需要重复打出这种结果才能找到管用的方法。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 14 saturday 发球靠前了。 #9 没有636， 只有500 多。 有elevation drop? 难怪他们可
以２ on .
636 也能 2 上， 也太打击我们这些amateur 了。
sergio garcia 铁杆很远， 6iron for 214 par 3. 但是他的driver 看来一般。也有
可能他driver 不是很直， 不敢太发力打击。
山地球场考研对unevn stance 的处理, YE 那个500多一点的par4 (not #18), second
shot 3hybrid push 下水了。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 15 今年能上场的机会太少了。
只能range short session 保持。 只有打出好的位子有landmark 参照， 才可以用goog map估算一下。
我估计我score 上不会有什么突破， 只能在距离和power 上突破一下了。
其实不在意距离也是一种模式， take a gear off 悠然enjoy. 我想有时候up a gear
, 尝试一下over power course， 比如 drive short par4 green, 2on par 5, driver + wedge 400+ par 4。
偶尔搞成， 还是挺爽的。 我现在觉得 2on par5 最难， 还没有搞成过。最要是hybrid /fw稳定性差。
铁杆距离容易接近pro, driver 的距离对 发射参数很敏感，所以接近pro 的distance
和稳定都很难。
发射参数 包括
angle of attack, spin, center or off center, 加上driver loft 小， 精度要球很
高。 稍微偏差一些， 距离的损失很大。
还有需要完全 warm up， swin... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 16 swing and score are totally 2 different things.
"打一般性的local course, 简直是different ball game."
no, i dont feel that way so far, it is still the same ball game. hitting
longer just makes you feel better before you get on the green, and didnt
show on the final score at all. Even all my buddies said I improved, but to
me, I still think it is about the same.
give an extreme example: a 355 yard par4 hole, took me one shot to get 60
yards left to the center; half-swing pitch, short of green; another chi... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 17 325 yard par4,
在同一个球场打了8 次了， 第一次par, 2putt from about 17 feet.
以前在这个洞bogey都只有一个（是不是漏计了penalty?)， 其他全是 +2 +3 and more, 反正感
觉基本在此洞打暴。。。
有好的ball striking 还不够， club selection 也很重要, 面对water的50-100
yard swing很考验人。
用的club是： 5iron + 56wedge (partner 打的很快， 1 hour 25 min finish 9 hole
, 只好跟则快， 根本来不及用iphone测距， 回家积分测approach shot distance 是83吗， 70 yard to clear water).
pevious round from blue ( 343 yard, tee shot landed about same spot)
5iron + 60wedge (short of green into water and took triple) |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 18 我现在才意识到这个洞(signature 9th hole) 需要local knowledge,
随意打的话， 没有几个人不下水的。 时不时看到有人完成不了此洞。包括我自己有好
几次。 drop2次以上就没性情完成此洞了。
if you are in the center of the fairway, between the cart path and the bank
of pond, there is slight vallley. tee off 的距离合适的话 （carry 190 - 210)
， 球就停在bottom of valley, 还基本flat lie. tee off 长的话， say straight
carry 220-230 多话， tee shot 可能直接下水。。。
从 center of fairway 方位approach green, green的纵深是两个单位。 从right
side drop area approach 时的green纵深的只有一个单位。从小桥方向有一道ridge
cross the green, 短了下水， 长了... 阅读全帖 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 19 靠，马上又进水。 431yd 的短 par4打成这样， 不得不承认已经是不一样的老虎了 |
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O*****s
发帖数: 990 | 20 本来就不是平常人所以不能总是想洞洞保par基础上捉鸟。相信他本人也不希望自己只
是另一个Ernie Els或者Phil Michelson。就得要par4每洞求捉鸟，par5每洞求捉鹰。
所以从复出到再次成功的过程中的score card上必然是birdie和bogey混杂的。如果全
都是par反而才是没救了。 |
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y***g
发帖数: 284 | 21 写出来，也不怕大家笑话，今天打得是6040码的白Tee，算是丢人丢到家了。
球场的确很难。球道虽然不长，但实在是窄，我站在白Tee上，大多数时候面对的障碍
区刚好和打职业Tee的美巡球员面对的障碍一样。落球区，每个洞都只有二三十码宽，
稍微偏一点就进树林。这里的树都很高，虽然不一定全都很粗，但架不住太茂密了。若
是球进了树林，别说直接攻果岭了，就是想打回球道，也不容易。Par 3的第8洞，我打
了8杆，其中碰树就碰了五次……
球场状态也不错，虽然有大概一般的果岭铺了沙，但推起来速度一点也不慢，在10-10.
5左右。果岭面积小，需要很精确的打点，ET等大牛估计能打出不错的成绩。
第一次打全美百佳球场，着实激动。站在第一洞Tee上，双脚都是软的。皮特戴的球场
，视觉压迫感特别强，其实有时候并非眼睛看到的那样。今天虽然请了个球童，但他也
没能很准确地描述洞的走势。第13洞Par4，他告诉我要朝左边打，结果太左打了一个
lost ball。暂定球我直接朝球道正中偏右打（一开始他说我会打进右侧的沙坑，那个
沙坑在发球台上看来的确很显眼），结果过去一看，飞过沙坑有十多码，完全有足够的
空间。
数... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 22 it is really up to the player to play from which tee.
harding park is about 6800 from blue tee, the first time I play there feel
it is a long course. Now i play again, feel it is just perfect length.
if all the par4 do not require long iron for approach, from the same tee,
normally, the par3 would not need long iron too. why would anyone carry long
iron. the good design course would test every aspect of your name.
for par5, you dont want the par5 to be too short, think of the pressure your
oppor... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 23 it is quite a talent to be so good at long clubs, which most amateurs suck a
lot.
as for short game, i guess yours is not bad considering bridges, callippe
green are very slope, tricky and large. plus play in a hurry sometimes, and
talk to partners sometimes. i woudn't beat myself up for lack of super short games.
when play for money, i guess longer is better. that's why pro all play those
long ass par4 as we play it as par5. for golfers struggle with swing at
times, shorter course is more hel... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 24 看个人。 都用一下就知道了
有人long iron 打击的好， 有人hybrid 好。
不知怎么说club distance。。。
你说在乎吧， 很多时候都是on paper, 稳定性不行。 barely hit where it is
planned to be.
你说不在乎吧， for a highcapper like me, it's the occassional long shots
keeps me golfing and visiting range.
我上周还以为swing 好起来了， 5 iron 都打上上230多的green front fringe. 场上
也有几次 打过205, 214 的green， 上次325 par4 我的 5 iron 跟同打的老头driver
tee off 并排。
但是这一周， 突然球都起不了。好像半年没打球了。。。感觉身体发僵。。。没有awareness...
只有short game chip pitch 相对稳定。 |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 25 长铁和hybrid，摇摆了一段时间。最后还是决定专攻长铁。 个人体会是： fairway
wood 和hybrid要打出skipping的擦地感觉需要对swing做不小的改动，和driver的
sweeping， iron的descending 都不一样， 而且对lie的软硬，平坦度也要求高一些，
我打的时候经常TOPPING或FAT，还需要练啊。还好我的4I还可以， 200-220yard也能够
得到，对于大部分的PAR4， BLUE， WHITE TEE，基本上只需要用到driver+5I。
不过真的羡慕hybrid和fairway wood打的好的人，五杆洞， 我经常是driver比人家远
，但第二杆冒着左倾危险用4I猛敲200，别人用5W 或hybrid轻轻松松220。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 26 你这平均低于3 strokes, 很不错了。 就是说approach 后 1 for par3, 2 for par4
, 3 for par5， 基本< 3甘搞定. 这保证低于90甘。
50吗以内超过3甘， 感觉打的没技巧，5甘的话觉得很烂或糊涂。
个人感觉， short game 还是比long game 容易稳定。值得花时间保持和enjoy.
我上周代我巴玩 golf, 想给他演示一下golf 的乐趣， 那个我常去的green, 70吗以内
， 全3strokes, 70吗那个pitch, 尽然up and down.
后来去range, 想show 他一下full swing 球飞的“多高多远”， 尽然起不了球。 好
像刚学golf。。。
long game 稳定性上花时间， 总觉得回报不多。不想aff 不怎么练， long game 依然
超级稳定。 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 27 我这些切球都是在10到15码以内的，比较好打。只是那个四杆的，有点太冤枉了，切球
切到12尺左右，一推时，没有读出洞后的Break，球没推进不说，还滚了超过12尺，情
绪受到影响，三推是必然的。
我通常50码内的切球会为一推找落点，避免推下坡，斜下坡球。我读草，也就能读个大
概。
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 28 又挤时间去 super twilight front 9. hole #2 超了几个小孩没打。 8洞 6 bogey 2
double. 94 as 18 hole projected score. 天飘小雨， 有两阵大雨， 差点quit 了。
但是还是苟住了。是我今年得分最好的9洞。
driver 还是改不了 sucker low hook. 但是基本控制住住了， 只有一个lost ball,
还好是红标lateral hazard +1. 没有 GIR， 主要是几个wedge 2nd shot 都well
beyond green. 赶时间打距离风速没怎么算。
3 个up and down 1 putt BOGEY save.
一个long par5 3rd shot 看着就要ob进人家院子， 结果打在果岭右前方的树枝上弹回
果岭前的球道， 2putt 保住bogey.
但是一个339 yard 的par4 就没有这样的lucky break, 5 iron tee off center of
fairway, 看sprinkler head 140 yard left. 用... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 29 按照你的能力，成绩应该要好得多，是不是打的太少了。我以前打的少，一个月一两场
球，起伏程度比较大，经常是+3，+4的。今年，打得多，+2都不常见，好像有几场球没
有+2了。还一个是，我去的都是很熟悉的场子，每一个洞怎么打，了如指掌，自然不容
易大失误。
一般超过300码出头的洞我是Driver开球，总是想让下一杆的距离短一些。
Wedge的球。不管是近远，都得认真对待，我这体会特深。上周六，第一洞，顺风，球
开了290码，位子停的很好，剩大概100码，正好是我54度的距离，击球时，忘了顺风，
球落在果岭后向下的大坡上，滚下滚过了两颗大树，到了下一洞开球座傍边的沟里，距
果岭有40 码。花了至少两分钟琢磨怎么才能让球落到看不间的果岭，然后打了个高抛
过树的好球。周日，300多码的Par4，球开的不错，还剩60码，当时算到了雨后地潮，
球可能滚不远，但又不想让球停在这前低后高的后面果岭，选的是54度，球切的还行，
落在果岭前边Fringe，没滚，也没跳，停在落下的那一点。又是花了一会时间，推敲怎
么打，然后open stance, open club face切了个高球，球在向下落时打到旗... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 30 During summer time, I had few rounds with 2-on par5, maybe around 5 attempts
total. but none of them I putt well (none of those were close to the pin
anyway).
Now, i think my putting is getting better. But winter is here. no 2-on for a
while. I dont know it is because the courses I played getting harder and
harder, the course is getting longer and longer or winter made my shots go
shorter and shorter.
Last week, the course I played was designed by Greg Norman, #17 par4 445, #
18 par5 457, none o... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 31 3W是我最没有把握的杆子，大部分时候都是碰运气。建议你还是带着3W，用它在Par5作
为一次练习。那一天，我430码以上的长Par4都没用3W，结果都是Bogey。
很高兴这些tips能派上用场，稳定driver可能还需要一段时间。270米就是300码，这种
球，练习场我是打不出来的，上个月两三次开出这样的距离，都是靠借风和借地形。
tendancies
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 32 this one might be the closest to the hole (15 feet) in my distant memory.
played on local muni (san ramon golf club), #8 short par5
in the same group, another single digit reach in green by 2 as well, but he
missed his eagle putt so badly, ended up with a par.
I did try to drive to the short par4 #3 hole on the same course, as Voyiger
suggested. I guess i might hit cart path, everyone was searching for my ball
, until I found it in the green side rough. |
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w******8
发帖数: 977 | 33 我也有同感，刚学时曾经觉得有可能scratch,但现在反而觉得太难了。最大的障碍就是
driver,我只能carry 230 yard,而且我自知将来不会有什么提高。碰到420yard par4,
想par就难。另外rough里和fair way bunker距离长了也打不好. 现在的目标是
handicap 3-5, 希望将来能偶尔破一次par. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 34 my guess is that LZ's driver best carry is 230.
when play long par4, longer distance pose some pressure without knowing it,
so often LZ ended up with below average driving at longer holes, say drive
220 or so. 200 yard approach is daunting for many amateurs, except aff-like
golfers.
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 35 well, I put it into test yesterday.
the result was not good.
through the round, i could not find the feeling when i played it on range green.
I almost three-putt every hole from anywhere on the green, and 4-putts 2 holes. It was my new record high
putting. (in a sense, i should say, my lowest low in terms of putting)
the only high-light was that at a short par4, my buddy and I both 2-on, with similar distance (20 feet), his ball
was a slightly closer. It was a two tier down hill putts. he was j... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 36 well, I put it into test yesterday.
the result was not good.
through the round, i could not find the feeling when i played it on range green.
I almost three-putt every hole from anywhere on the green, and 4-putts 2 holes. It was my new record high
putting. (in a sense, i should say, my lowest low in terms of putting)
the only high-light was that at a short par4, my buddy and I both 2-on, with similar distance (20 feet), his ball
was a slightly closer. It was a two tier down hill putts. he was j... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 37 yes, now I rarely want to tee the ball high. I think 250 is a good distance
on blue tee we usually play. Drive 250 + 3woods 210 pretty much cover all
the long par4s
when you drive 300, you should make a picture of that analysis :) |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 38 yes, now I rarely want to tee the ball high. I think 250 is a good distance
on blue tee we usually play. Drive 250 + 3woods 210 pretty much cover all
the long par4s
when you drive 300, you should make a picture of that analysis :) |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 39 I was trying Titleist Driver, 9.5
yes, 250-260 is about my normal driving distance on course.
Turn out, that is more than enough for our amature weekend golfers.
Playing from Blue, 250/260 + 200(3woods/3Hybrid) easily cover the longest
par4, with some luck, easily 2-on for short par5.
my own driver is 10.5, but i de-loft it to around low ten. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 40 一般来说要是你FOLLOW那些球员，你看起来会更精彩一些
比如说两周前，TIGER62给RORY很大的PRESSURE，那你就想看RORY怎样来HANDLE，要是你ROOT FOR TIGER，你就希望能看到TIGER跟RORY打PLAYOFF，所以RORY的每一个SHOT都很重要
这只是一个例子，GOLF是斗智斗勇，去年一场球，PHIL落后一杆于BUBBA WASTON，第18洞，PAR4，PHIL开球到ROUGH，他没有选攻GREEN，球救出，还剩70-80YARDS，他要一 杆进才有机会，所有的人，所有的眼睛都在关注他，他WALK OVER TO GREEN，仔细察看，最后PULL THE TRIGGER，虽然没进，只差一点
还有很多很多各种DRAMA... |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 41 95 ish at a 6100 yard setup course.
I hit ball fine. just figured out the course is too short. I use my driver
for tee shot all the time, some are very good for those barely 310-yard
par4s. I barely reach them.
Those par5s are just barely 480 yards, quite reachable.
Anyways, I probably should play more. This is probably the second time I
played this year. Still, counting the way I hit ball and my putting, I
should do better.
The only thing I found out is I hit ball further. It probably is becaus... 阅读全帖 |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 42 是的，我也有这个感觉， 第二杆非常重要。大部分的PAR4，5对第一杆还是很厚道的，
在能reach的距离，fairway 宽度还很宽,一两个fairway bunker,，除非是OB，一般错
误可以在第二杆补回来。但第二杆一般是攻果岭的一杆，很多地形起伏，障碍物的设置
都围绕着这一杆设计，这杆没打好一般要+2杆才补回来。我觉得Pro也一样，所以精彩
镜头里up and down 的比例很高。
上下身 separation 的打法对timming 要求太高，我试了一下，如果我的knee和hip先
unwind，arm-shoulder unit can not catch therefore club face don't have
enough time to square at impact,always has little open, 但确实可以增加fade的
距离（故意open占位)，算是power fade？ 我还是打我的fullbody turn and release
at same time吧。体能差，没办法啊！ |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 43 what i meant is range before course play takes longer time.
recently i usually go directly to first tee, just like you.
it seems that i start to find my best&consistent swing ever after
4 year casual golfing. with swing in better shape, i don't find range
course differ that much.
a little bit show off or some self learning experience sharing here:
Saturday 18 hole round at a 71.3/142 course， birdied #8 124y par3 with
6ft putt; lip out 5 ft birdie putt at #13 92y par3, miss judge the break
by a f... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 44 driving average 270 is damn impressive, as luke donald does so.
270 yard drive will enable golfer drive a lot green, for short par4 with
yardage sign anywhere from 270-320 (dogleg).
3wood should go to 250-260, this means 530 yard par5 in 2 is a possiblity,
with dogleg, 550-560 par5 in 2 is possible too.
270+ occassionally would make me happy already. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 45 each golfer will have to find his best style after a while.i sometimes try
both agressive and conservative. sometimes agressive works, sometimes
conversative works.
i totally agree with your strategy about par5. recently i did twice manage
to get to green side rough on short par5, one is 505 or so with 3wood,
another is 476 or so with 6iron. each time i was excited about my first
birdie chance on par5. but it turned out both times, the pitch/chip from
green side rough were tough, either because... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 46 至少有两年以上没有用铁杆开过四杆五杆洞的球。我6铁现在最多只能让球飞160码，加
上滚也不超过170码，明显是处于劣势。
三百左右的四杆洞，我是尽量想办法开球不要离果岭太近，避免球进沙坑。一般短Par4
，果岭前侧方会有沙坑，进去了，保帕就难了。
bunkers |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 47 周五hole 1 300y par 4 顺风又地势下降, wide open fairway。 driver 开了一个甭
直， front green side rough, 差1尺 进 green side bunker, SW chip to 3 ft,
birdie. 所以有时高球是看运气. 我把我的60度搞丢了.那轮全用SW chip/pitch, 结果
3 up &down. 我还没有用LW 一轮拿这么多up& down 过.
hole 18 348y par 4, 球道右边是水塘, 因为我driver经常有fade/slice 的趋向,我准
备6铁开. 朋友先开，开了直又远，可能触动了我long drive 的念头,我换成driver,
结果waterloo. retee 6i, split fairway, 120 y to green. 之前好几个洞6i开也不
错. 另外一个好处是 碰到190 - 200 的approach 或par 3 时, 就很容易派上用场. 6
铁开球不久一个470 y par5, 195 yard approach, 6铁打了个low sh... 阅读全帖 |
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 48 Those are long long drives. admire.
For the short par 4s, a lot of times I use 3 or 4 hybrids or irons to tee
off. I can not risk use driver and lost ball. Normally for the short par4s,
either the green is small or fairways are narrow. by tee off using 3 or 4
hybrids, the score can be 3, 4 or 5. if by driver, it can be 3, 4, 5, 6.
then, statistically, why driver? just for the slim chance of 2 Eagle? |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 49 definitely use the most precise club of that round, or most precise club of
your recent swing form.
any club getting tee ball to around 200 yard is good enough. if your 210y or
230yard club is not precise or stable, don't use them.
for me, scored terribly on some similiar short par4 < 350yard using driver.
so far i found that i got best results when i tee off with 6i/5i.
however, even with the most confident & precise club in hand, still need
focus to make a good swing, rather than 大意打烂你感觉最准的球杆。... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 50 well, decent, depends on whats standard?
I checked my scorecard of that 9 holes (back 9) I played with you at
Callippe.
Yes, most holes are 2 putts, I guess that is why you got the impression that
my putting was not too bad.
But #11 par4, huge uphill hole, luckily, i was 2 on, 4 putts. Another, #15,
par3, my tee was on the green, but took me 3 putts. total 20 putts for 9
holes.
I played boundary oaks twice, both times, ended up with 42 putts. for #5 and
#6, I was GIR for both of them, and 4 putt... 阅读全帖 |
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