M******0 发帖数: 1280 | 1 新开了一贴给你。
全是pave road, 没有off road |
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W***n 发帖数: 11530 | 2 What's New for 2016
The 2016 Grand Cherokee gets a new shift lever that physically remains in
the selected position, while the 3.6-liter gasoline V6 receives standard
automatic stop-start technology along with variable valve timing and lift to
incrementally improve fuel economy and horsepower. All trims except the SRT
gets standard electric-assist power steering (with adjustable effort), and
weight reductions across the lineup come courtesy of additional aluminum
suspension components. Finally, ... 阅读全帖 |
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l******e 发帖数: 59 | 3 我就pave road 跑几迈。dealer也是这么建议的。 |
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e*******e 发帖数: 9616 | 4 加州就是从右超车就是犯法的,而且左道有责任让道给快车,
http://law.justia.com/codes/california/2005/veh/21750-21759.htm
California Code | View Previous Versions of the California Code
2005 California Vehicle Code Sections 21750-21759 Article 3. Overtaking and
Passing
VEHICLE CODE
SECTION 21750-21759
21750. The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle or a
bicycle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left at a
safe distance without interfering with the safe operation of the
overtaken vehicle or bicycle,... 阅读全帖 |
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E****a 发帖数: 3088 | 5 国内到处都充斥着这些所谓内幕消息。特么胎压该多少不就是个普通工程技术问题么?
你特么读了那么多年大学研究生还要去听个换油的小工给你内幕消息,才知道该怎么给
汽车打气。国外网站上关于这个问题的讨论一抓一大把。
老色狼这回也不算全错。但思维逻辑方式还是一如继往的糟糕。
1. 车主手册上(或车门上)的数值是制造厂推荐的充气压力数值。这个数值考虑了安
全,燃油经济等诸方面的因素。以下是摘自 Dodge Challenger SRT 的手册
Underinflated tires will increase tire rolling resistance resulting in
higher fuel consumption.Ride Comfort And Vehicle Stability Proper tire
inflation contributes to a comfortable ride. Over-inflation produces a
jarring and uncomfortable ride.
2. 制造厂规定的胎压是指冷态的胎压
Inflation pressure... 阅读全帖 |
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b******7 发帖数: 8200 | 6 100k对我的mdx来说就是刚刚发育而已
toyota好就是因为4wd耐操。你是不是平时老是挂着4wd,开paved road阿? |
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E***a 发帖数: 485 | 7 这个当然不行了,只有全时四驱才能这么干。我的车是分时四驱,平时用4WD auto,
只有后驱俩轮子打滑才会把动力传到前面轮子。可以手动设到4WD high或者4WD low。
4WD low冬天爬车库的坡很有用,呵呵。
你是不是平时老是挂着4wd,开paved road阿? |
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j****q 发帖数: 68 | 8 下大雨的时候找个大直路跑。十迈不是问题。说明书原话应该是不要在dry paved road
上用四驱。
冻住
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7 |
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f****l 发帖数: 5514 | 9 其实雨天公路也基本不能用。只有在表面松软的土路或者沙地里才能。Paved road上你
要去用 |
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j********a 发帖数: 1743 | 10 山路都是paved,开什么车也感觉不到那么多区别吧?真不懂开四驱优势在哪儿 |
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发帖数: 1 | 11 好文!感谢心得分享.
minivan适合road trip. 全家舒适, 就开车的累些.
不过要走遍所有的国家公园,
还是要找适合开在unpaved road的SUV.
不然光走园內paved road, 只能是"到此一游". |
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T***u 发帖数: 1468 | 12 很多石子路minivan/sedan都可以开,无非开慢点
: 好文!感谢心得分享.
: minivan适合road trip. 全家舒适, 就开车的累些.
: 不过要走遍所有的国家公园,
: 还是要找适合开在unpaved road的SUV.
: 不然光走园內paved road, 只能是"到此一游".
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f****l 发帖数: 5514 | 13 老色狼天天copy&paste一堆谣言来欺骗新手,你搜一下就知道了。不过你明显对四驱系
统有一定了解,不可能被他骗到。
现在绝大多数crossover的四驱系统都是平时2WD,打滑了才传动力到另一个轴. BMW/
Mercedes貌似是平时后轮95%,前轮5%,但是才5%和2WD没啥大区别。
但是其实一些truck-based的分时四驱的越野SUV一般城市道路行驶更差,paved road
上只能用2WD模式
所以,所谓太公四驱其实更适合城市道路,当然不同太公四驱的实际能力差别也不小,
要仔细研究 |
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t**x 发帖数: 20965 | 14 先缅怀我从来不坏的accord一下。
问题: lexus gx470, 昨天接小孩不小心碰到了central differential button。现在
central differential light 一直闪,怎么都不灭。vsc off 也亮了。
转弯开一下一下的, 我认为这是不是所谓老美说的central differential lock
engaged了。
而engaged了就要小心开了,最好不要高速paved路上开。
问题是很多人说没有engaged,才会blinking。。。感觉我的问题是engaged了,但是
system以为没有,所以turn off根本不行。查不出来error code。
请问怎么办?
-
这个central differential lock我是从来不用的。据说这样容易stuck。请在行的提示
一下。
目前开直路应该没问题,但是倒车尤其是还要拐弯有问题。 |
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w********r 发帖数: 3183 | 15 FWD的车,engine/transaxle都在驱动轮上,在雪地上动力是没有问题的,all-season
和snow tires都能有足够的traction。问题出在,驱动轮也是导向轮,本身就没有为
high-speed driving和cornering进行优化。下雪,一般都会降低速度开,FWD没问题,
但你不能不拐弯儿吧。FWD的不足就出来了,这也就是为什么下雪时,掉下去的FWD多发
现在拐弯或者靠近拐弯的地方。
AWD是为了power is automatically routed to the wheels with the most traction
。Traction肯定比FWD好,而且厂家设计AWD的车时,刻意考虑了再下雪情况下,smooth
, paved surfaces的情况,重量布局,甚至轮胎大小,纹路都更适合下雪的情况。
Honda Odyssey只有FWD,说明FWD足够了,但不能说明AWD不比FWD好。就象TURBO发动机
,日本车过去不用,现在用了,难道过去的发动机就都有问题了,显然不是,而是日本
车根据市场的情况,改进了自己的产品。 |
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d***a 发帖数: 13752 | 16 做人要有追求,呵呵。
话说回来,很多住在大农村的人,家里就在田地里,去家里的路都不是paved的。冬天
下大雪的时候,也不会有人来扫雪。对这样的人来说,四驱是必须的(开拖拉机的除外
),否则下雪了连家都回不了。
对城市居民来说,情况就大不相同。 |
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d***a 发帖数: 13752 | 17 Atlas开了有一个多月了,选的是SE with tech & 4motion。先说不好的,悬挂硬,比
较颠,比我家另一辆X3还要颠。但也不是那么糟糕,当时我自己试驾了四次,都没有太
大感觉。但买回来过了几天后LD说觉得有点颠,仔细注意了一下,确实是,似乎是有某
个频率的细小震动,没有被过滤掉。看网上的说法,也有说大众的车就是这样的。这个
主要看个人能不能接受了。如果能等,还是等明年的为好。
其它的基本都是优点:在大车中on-road操控好。主动安全性齐全,ACC的低速跟车的表
现挺不错。内部空间真心大,比navigator和Tahoe更大。有次在没有paved过的路面上
开了几十迈,算light off-road吧,悬挂的表现相当不错,非常出乎意料。本来想买
SEL或SEL Premium的,发现VW的天窗全是用mesh的suncreen,这个不能接受,只好买了
不带天窗的,算是一个缺点吧。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 18 [在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到:]
:Atlas开了有一个多月了,选的是SE with tech & 4motion。先说不好的,悬挂硬,比
:较颠,比我家另一辆X3还要颠。但也不是那么糟糕,当时我自己试驾了四次,都没有
太大感觉。但买回来过了几天后LD说觉得有点颠,仔细注意了一下,确实是,似乎是有
某个频率的细小震动,没有被过滤掉。看网上的说法,也有说大众的车就是这样的。这
个主要看个人能不能接受了。如果能等,还是等明年的为好。
:其它的基本都是优点:在大车中on-road操控好。主动安全性齐全,ACC的低速跟车的
表现挺不错。内部空间真心大,比navigator和Tahoe更大。有次在没有paved过的路面上
:开了几十迈,算light off-road吧,悬挂的表现相当不错,非常出乎意料。本来想买
:SEL或SEL Premium的,发现VW的天窗全是用mesh的suncreen,这个不能接受,只好买
了不带天窗的,算是一个缺点吧。
谢谢分享! |
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发帖数: 1 | 19 [在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到:]
:Atlas开了有一个多月了,选的是SE with tech & 4motion。先说不好的,悬挂硬,比
:较颠,比我家另一辆X3还要颠。但也不是那么糟糕,当时我自己试驾了四次,都没有
太大感觉。但买回来过了几天后LD说觉得有点颠,仔细注意了一下,确实是,似乎是有
某个频率的细小震动,没有被过滤掉。看网上的说法,也有说大众的车就是这样的。这
个主要看个人能不能接受了。如果能等,还是等明年的为好。
:其它的基本都是优点:在大车中on-road操控好。主动安全性齐全,ACC的低速跟车的
表现挺不错。内部空间真心大,比navigator和Tahoe更大。有次在没有paved过的路面上
:开了几十迈,算light off-road吧,悬挂的表现相当不错,非常出乎意料。本来想买
:SEL或SEL Premium的,发现VW的天窗全是用mesh的suncreen,这个不能接受,只好买
了不带天窗的,算是一个缺点吧。
你是觉得mesh 的sunshade 挡不住光是吧 |
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f****l 发帖数: 5514 | 20 其实就算有积雪也不该用4H的,还是得用4A。4H和4L基本不应该在paved road上用。一
个比较普遍用4H的场景是有些人住的地方比较偏,家到公路之间有一段unpaved的泥路,
下过大雨后走这段路就最好用4H |
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发帖数: 1 | 21 看个人感受吧,觉得4A能handle 也行。取决于路面的积雪多厚,积雪覆盖的公路已经
属于slippery surface 了,用4H沒什么问题。
[在 flbufl (Life is a struggle) 的大作中提到:]
:其实就算有积雪也不该用4H的,还是得用4A。4H和4L基本不应该在paved road上用。
一个比较普遍用4H的场景是有些人住的地方比较偏,家到公路之间有一段unpaved的泥
路, 下过大雨后走这段路就最好用4H
:☆ 发自 iPhone 买买提 1.23.08 |
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f****l 发帖数: 5514 | 22 是你没搞懂我们在说什么, torsen中差的车除了sequoia外,根本没有2驱模式。但是
torsen中差是可以锁止的,锁止之后基本就是分时四驱车的四驱模式,前后轴必须保持
一致转速,所以不适合paved road |
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f****l 发帖数: 5514 | 23 如果你们住在雪天比较多的地方的话,建议你LP至少还是先去看看certified preowned
GX再说。
除了limited trim的4R,全是卡车那种的part time 4WD, 基本在paved road上是不能
用的,所以不越野的话,基本只能当后驱车开,偶尔停车场锁住前后轴脱困而已。你们
用来家用的话,还是选带torsen full time 4WD的limited trim或者直接GX要好得多
truck |
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H*****u 发帖数: 1766 | 24 谢谢 会再做些功课。
按你的建议, 还是该上limited, 价格上的吸引力差了点。不过如果反正上中高配的话,
那跟别的车也没区别。
Premium牌子不考虑了,低调些。不过会去看看GX第三排。
: 如果你们住在雪天比较多的地方的话,建议你LP至少还是先去看看
certified
preowned
: GX再说。
: 除了limited trim的4R,全是卡车那种的part time 4WD, 基本在paved
road上
是不能
: 用的,所以不越野的话,基本只能当后驱车开,偶尔停车场锁住前后轴脱
困而已
。你们
: 用来家用的话,还是选带torsen full time 4WD的limited trim或者直接
GX要好
得多
: truck
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V*s 发帖数: 2452 | 25 真没机会off road。。。paved road这车肯定没问题。 |
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t*********g 发帖数: 3618 | 26
短线炒股其实相对容易,只要你肯花功夫学习一些最基本的指标,比如:KDJ, MACD,
PAV筹码引力,
PAVE强筹码引力,庄家抬轿,BBIBoll, BOLL, JAX济安线,箱体,梅斯线,薛斯,薛斯
II,主力控
盘,铁龙长线,DMI趋势。
长线选牛股,这个需要技巧,也需要运气。我不是长线选手,版内有好几个长线选股很
牛的,建议多请
教请教他们。 |
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z****e 发帖数: 54598 | 27 月线和周线是告诉你这波涨幅有多高
因为楼主买的时候多半已经开拉了
已经抛离5日线10日线有一定距离了
所以要看是否会继续拉,这个是西翼最早说的几个部分
包括ddz的使用,都跟这个有关
楼主持股不止一天,海南橡胶是个例外,昨天跌停开盘,很妖
另外一个600888,这个是涨停开盘,然后往下冲,也很妖
形态是沃尔夫斯浪,三浪盘升,三浪盘跌,也是西翼最早的贴里面的东西
不过这都是次要的,关键是自己的实践,就跟游泳一样
不去实践,在岸上怎么比划都是扯淡
西翼常用的指标来个汇总,以后再问不回答了,这是我第三次说了
主图:ma, ma2, 济安线,薛斯,薛斯2,箱体, bbiboll, boll
下面的:kdj, macd, zjtj, vol, cyw, lon, pav, pave
然后kdj对应的1分钟,5分钟,15分钟,半小时,1小时一直到月线周线都是常用的
最后盘口和明细一定要看,尤其是超短线
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 28 Asking rent (negotiable): $100 a month in cash
I have a private off-street parking space for rent in Middle Cambridge. The
location is very close to the intersection of River street and Putnam Ave.
It is 8 minutes walk to the Central Square T station and on the 70/70A/64
bus lines. The neighborhood is pretty safe.
The parking space is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my
house that I own. It is inside a townhouse complex and away from the busy
roads.
Liability disclaimer: You nee... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 29 I'm Chinese. I have an off-street parking space for rent near the
intersection of River st. and Putnam Ave. in Cambridge. It is close to
Harvard, MIT, MGH, and BU. It is 8 minutes walk to a red line T station (
Central Square) and on the 70/70A/64 bus lines. The neighborhood is pretty
safe.
The parking space is inside a townhouse complex and away from busy roads. It
is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my house that I own.
The parking space also belongs to me.
Asking rent (negoti... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 30 I'm Chinese. I have an off-street parking space for rent near the
intersection of River st. and Putnam Ave. in Cambridge. It is close to
Harvard, MIT, MGH, and BU. It is 8 minutes walk to a red line T station (
Central Square) and on the 70/70A/64 bus lines. The neighborhood is pretty
safe.
The parking space is inside a townhouse complex and away from busy roads. It
is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my house that I own.
The parking space also belongs to me.
Asking rent (negoti... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 31 I'm Chinese. I have an off-street parking space for rent near the
intersection of River st. and Putnam Ave. in Cambridge. It is close to
Harvard, MIT, MGH, and BU. It is 8 minutes walk to a red line T station (
Central Square) and on the 70/70A/64 bus lines. The neighborhood is pretty
safe.
The parking space is inside a townhouse complex and away from busy roads. It
is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my house that I own.
The parking space also belongs to me.
Asking rent (negoti... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 32 I have an off-street parking space for rent near the intersection of River
st. and Putnam Ave. in Cambridge. It is close to Harvard, MIT, MGH, and BU.
It is 8 minutes walk to a red line T station(Central Square) and is on the
70/70A/64/47 bus lines.
The parking space belongs to me. It is inside a townhouse complex and away
from busy roads. It is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my
house that I own.
Asking rent (negotiable): $70 a month or $20 a week. You should have up-to-
date ... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 33 I have an off-street parking space for rent near the intersection of River
st. and Putnam Ave. in Cambridge. It is close to Harvard, MIT, MGH, and BU.
It is 8 minutes walk to a red line T station(Central Square) and is on the
70/70A/64/47 bus lines.
The parking space belongs to me. It is inside a townhouse complex and away
from busy roads. It is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my
house that I own.
Asking rent (negotiable): $70 a month or $20 a week. You should have up-to-
date ... 阅读全帖 |
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m****s 发帖数: 18160 | 34 【 以下文字转载自 Biology 讨论区 】
发信人: niceboat (Spore), 信区: Biology
标 题: Open Position: Research Scientist – Metabolic Engineering & Fermentation
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 15 16:01:59 2013, 美东)
Job ID: GF2013A003
Posting Title: Research Scientist – Metabolic Engineering & Fermentation
Brief Introduction of Gate Fuels Inc.: “Imagination, Innovation,
Implementation --- Enabled Technologies for a Green, Clean World”
Gate Fuels, Inc. is a biotechnology startup company that is developing
recombinant Bacillus s... 阅读全帖 |
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T****1 发帖数: 183 | 35 http://columbus.craigslist.org/apa/4341247290.html
Large 2 Bedroom 2 Bath Condo in a nice and quite neighborhood
Condo has club house, gym, and swimming pool
Easy access to I-270 West, Broad St., Georgesville Rd
Pottery barn perfect. Large rooms, very open light & bright. White kitchen w
/ newer matching appliances. Kitchen passes through to Dining area, & Large
living room. Master suite is huge with 2 closets. Jack & Jill bathroom has
plenty of room & leads to the 2nd large bedroom. Beautiful b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 36 南湾3b2b独立屋出租
地点:95051区,位于San Thomas和Lawrence之间,El Camino Real以北,central
express以南的安静小区,临近Intel,Nividia, Apple 等公司和101, central等主路
。距离cal train station,Costco, Korean town 1 mile,距离Whole Foods 1.5
miles。 近公园和学校。
房屋:
1100 sqft 3 bedroom 2 full bath
all hardwood floor
newly renovated kitchen with granite countertop
newly renovated bathrooms
central heating and cooling with nest thermostat
dual pane windows
recessed lighting in living room kitchen and master bedroom
2 nest cameras monitoring front an... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****I 发帖数: 8268 | 37 The road to hell is paved by good intentions. |
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e*i 发帖数: 1819 | 38 在NEW JERSEY 两年不用GIFT CARD 就有可能被充公.
New Jersey wants unredeemed gift cards to boost budget
By The Associated Press
Published: April 02, 2012
TRENTON, N.J. — Remember that gift card you got from Aunt Francine but
never spent? New Jersey would be more than happy to take it off your hands.
The state will soon begin requiring gift card sellers to obtain ZIP codes
from buyers so it can claim the value of cards not redeemed after two years.
At least one major seller, American Express, has pulled its ca... 阅读全帖 |
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w******t 发帖数: 1422 | 39 translate it into English:
please put her under your unbrella.
very good one i feel - pave your road. |
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i*b 发帖数: 184 | 40 Cong! Now your future road has been paved! |
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H****y 发帖数: 2992 | 41 见大家在批判Editors。又给我逮着机会quotes了!
The road to ignorance is paved with good editors. ~ George Bernard Shaw
An editor is someone who separates the wheat from the chaff and then prints
the chaff. ~ Adlai Stevenson
Most editors are failed writers - but so are most writers. ~ T.S. Eliot |
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H****y 发帖数: 2992 | 42 Interview with Dr. Xi Yin
--- By Fiona Rawsontile, Sept 2015
This interview was inspired by an earlier interview of Dr. Yin I saw on the
Internet, which made me think that we can’t expect someone who normally
writes for entertainment to understand a physicist. To “provoke” a
scientist, we need another scientist. So I volunteered (to myself) and sent
an invitation to Dr. Yin, who was recently promoted to Professor in Physics
at Harvard Uni... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******t 发帖数: 3956 | 43 (作为年仅31岁就晋升哈佛正教授的青年才俊,尹希教授最近得到了很多关注。其中一
篇关于他的专访进入了一名同是美国大学华裔教授的女科学家的视线。因为觉得这样的
采访不过瘾,她突发奇想,想亲自采访一下尹希。于是就有了这个我们今天看到的两名
科学家之间的对话。这位女教授使用了化名,这是她出版自己几部科幻小说的笔名。对
,没错,这位女教授同时也是一个女文青,已经写了几本书,还都是英文,Amazon 就
能买到。感兴趣的不妨找来看看。很可能有一天,她也会成为传奇式的人物。那今天这
篇采访就会成为另一段佳话。)
Interview with Dr. Xi Yin
--- By Fiona Rawsontile, Sept 2015
Translated by Slow Rabbit
This interview was inspired by an earlier interview of Dr. Yin I saw on the
Internet, which made me think that we can’t expect some... 阅读全帖 |
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x*****i 发帖数: 1329 | 44 "The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions" |
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p*****s 发帖数: 1780 | 45 http://bbs.powerapple.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=989412
去肉铺买肉却不知道某个部位叫什么的同学有救啦,我整理了一个猪,牛,羊的结构图
供大家参考。以下都是常见的一般肉铺都有售的部位。
牛:
Ox Cheek
Ox cheek is more of a continental cut - traditionally used by the French,
for braising, trimmed with all the fat off. Very strong flavour - needs good
slow cooking.
Neck & Clod
Traditionally a cheaper stewing steak for dicing - but mostly used for
mincing now. Makes a fantastic flavoursome lean mince with great internal
fat... excellent for burgers. A good (an... 阅读全帖 |
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V********T 发帖数: 878 | 46 Two bed rooms, living room, dining room,kitchen with breakfast area.
Walk in closet in the main bedroom.
Hardwood floor throughout.
New paint in all rooms.
Huge bathroom.
Energy star appliances in the kitchen.(brand new dishwasher).
Latest Whirlpool steam system washer and dryer in the basement.
Brick paved back patio plus raised bed for planting vegetable.
Free parking.
2 minutes walk to Trade joe's.
5 minutes walk distance to Addison EL, CVS, Starbucks, and blockbuster.
Chicago public library, |
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a*******g 发帖数: 71 | 47 Location! Location! Location! This lovely single family house locates
needham birds hill area,Massachusetts, quite neighborhood.
Walking distance to the Hersey Rail Station, Needham Golf club and
Broadmeadow school
Easy access to the highway I-95 and I-90, route 9.
First floor includes the big living room with fireplace; dining room;
bedroom1 and bedroom2 wall to wall carpet; includes kitchen and full bath 1.
Second floor includes the master bedroom with half bath, wall to wall
hardwood floor, a... 阅读全帖 |
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I****D 发帖数: 24 | 48 地点: 30 Newport Pkwy, Jersey City (High rise building w/ 24hr door man),
Within 1 min walk you can go to Rivers Market (Morton Williams Supper
Market, Newport Dry Cleaner, Newport Wine and Sprit, Newport Vision, a
kids' store)
Within 3 min walk you can go to
Newport Swimming and Fitness Center (a nice gym with an indoor 25 m
swimming pool),
Waterfront Walk (A paved pedestrian trial stretching miles long along
Hudson river with great panoramatic view of Manhattan)
5~6 restraints of different style... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 49 Asking rent (negotiable): $100 a month in cash
I have a private off-street parking space for rent in the middle of
Cambridge. The location is very close to the intersection of River street
and Putnam Ave. It is 8 minutes walk to the Central Square T station and on
the 70/70A/64 bus lines. The neighborhood is pretty safe.
The parking space is inside a townhouse complex and away from the busy roads
. It is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my house that I
own.
Liability disclaimer:... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******m 发帖数: 1893 | 50 Asking rent (negotiable): $100 a month in cash
I have a private off-street parking space for rent in the middle of
Cambridge. The location is at the intersection of River street and Putnam
Ave and close to Harvard, MIT, MGH, and BU. It is 8 minutes walk to the
Central Square T station and on the 70/70A/64 bus lines. The neighborhood is
pretty safe.
The parking space is inside a townhouse complex and away from the busy roads
. It is uncovered and on the paved brick area in front of my house that ... 阅读全帖 |
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