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w*********o
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I assume you mean conspiracy to murder (but no death?) and premeditated
murder (somebody died?). If that's what you are talking about, I doubt that
many people would care about one way or another. And some might want more
severe punishment for both.
I don't really care if the law about that should be changed in this regard.
It is honestly a matter too complicated to get anywhere on a non-
professional forum.
W***n
发帖数: 11530
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来自主题: Virginia版 - From a legal point of view:
From a legal point of view:
This appears to be a clear-cut, brutal 1st degree murder case. The killing
weapon was premeditatedly brought to the crime scene.. after the perpetuator
stabbed the victim, he cut off her head, which proved without any doubt that
he willfully and deliberately wanted to kill her.
See VA Code 18.2-31.
Punishable by death penalty.
z******1
发帖数: 418
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来自主题: Football版 - A perfect team player
Before weeping for being lied to and wronged, have a chat with Alex Smith
first. Jets produced and cast in this sitcom, but Tebow signed up himself to
play a role. He chose to go to NY, with a expectation, not a guarantee, to
play as the starter. He should have been reminded that expectations are
premeditated resentments.
B*****e
发帖数: 9375
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来自主题: Football版 - 刀锋战士无罪。。。。
K 我看了刀锋 还以为是说Dolphins
我想这有一部分原因 是因为检察官急功近利
以最大最厉害的"premeditated murder"罪名起诉他吧
那除非能证明他是早就精心策划好
把女友有意引到卫生间 关好 搞些声音迷惑邻居
掏出随身携带的手枪开火 ...
那才能是"蓄意谋杀"
k**o
发帖数: 15334
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 防卫过当, 终身监禁
没搞懂怎么就murder 1了,no premeditation
c**d
发帖数: 3888
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 防卫过当, 终身监禁
Read carefully - the guy was convicted of murder, not first-degree murder (
what people sometimes call murder 1). Premeditation is not required for
murder.
k**o
发帖数: 15334
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 防卫过当, 终身监禁
没搞懂怎么就murder 1了,no premeditation
c**d
发帖数: 3888
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 防卫过当, 终身监禁
Read carefully - the guy was convicted of murder, not first-degree murder (
what people sometimes call murder 1). Premeditation is not required for
murder.
s*******n
发帖数: 12995
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 谋杀or自卫
今天早上稍微看了一下案子,要说有预谋,是太高估了凶手的智商了。所以检方诉求的
是二级谋杀。这个二级谋杀和主动误杀(Voluntary manslaughter)本来界限就很
模糊

Voluntary manslaughter: This is often called a "heat of
passion" crime.
Voluntary manslaughter arises when a person is suddenly provoked
(in
circumstances which are likely to provoke many reasonable
people) and kills
in the heat of passion aroused by that provocation. That the
killing is not
considered first or second degree murder is a concession to
human weakness.
Killers who act in the heat of passion ... 阅读全帖
H******S
发帖数: 6011
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - [BSSD]CHL课(唐,长,慎入)
警察可以,你不行。我上CHL的时候,instructor就说,要么就安分当绵羊,要出枪就
必须见血。即使是德州,用枪自卫也还是要讲究遭遇到"Imminent Threat",如果你有
时间开枪警告,之后再射对方的话,那就不是Imminent threat,而是变成“
premeditate”,这在官司上面对的charge可是完全不同性质的。
H******S
发帖数: 6011
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - [BSSD]CHL课(唐,长,慎入)
警察可以,你不行。我上CHL的时候,instructor就说,要么就安分当绵羊,要出枪就
必须见血。即使是德州,用枪自卫也还是要讲究遭遇到"Imminent Threat",如果你有
时间开枪警告,之后再射对方的话,那就不是Imminent threat,而是变成“
premeditate”,这在官司上面对的charge可是完全不同性质的。
m*****1
发帖数: 2546
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 再发一下休斯顿4人遇害最新的报道
刚才又看了下英文报道。
-警察说不知道子弹的口径。
-没提财物损失。估计屋里没乱。
-邻居没听到声音。专业杀手?
看到别的读者评论:
"The wife ran an import/export business with China. All of the evidence is
pointing towards a Mr. and Mrs. Smith job. I just can't believe that the FBI
is not involved with the investigation since it involves the premeditated
murder of 2 American children by an international accomplice."

就有
j****3
发帖数: 2836
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 家防左轮?
统一回复一下楼上几位对cock revolver不以为然的枪友,也许你们的理由都成立,尤
其是对我们这些同样拥枪的人来说。但别忘了真要不幸需要在法庭上为自己辩护的时候
,你需要说服的是刻意找你麻烦的控方,和也许从来就没摸过枪,或者对枪厌恶的陪审
团成员。他们也许并不认可你所说的理由。 另外就是,不要以为在家防后你不告诉警
察你cock revolver了就没事,如果真到了要上法庭辩护这一步,控方对你的审查将是
极为严格仔细的,在这种长期的翻来覆去的调查中,你坚信你能做到不说漏嘴?第三,
就是收益和风险完全不成比例,自卫射击,不管是街上还是家里,距离也就10米到头了
,这个距离上单双动对于打中人体这个靶子实在没多大区别,为了一点点无意义的精度
,却给自己留下巨大的法律隐患,给自己的辩护平添巨大的难度,实在不值得。
In the movies, cocking a revolver’s trigger shows that a character is
REALLY SERIOUS about shooting. It’s a final warning. Real world prose... 阅读全帖
i*******y
发帖数: 1255
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来自主题: Ski版 - 这个太猛了! (转载)
这看着是个PREMEDITATED STUNT。跟躲避雪崩没有关系啊。否则就应该最快速度直线往
前冲。
强是强在即便有雪崩在后,该表演的动作照样表演,不慌。
e*******e
发帖数: 9616
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 那个艾神动不动就举中国国旗
是球迷给的,或者说是球队pr时先安排的=premeditated的。
他拿来就用了,是为了让球迷开心。
他在为一支中国球队踢球,赢了球披个球迷/经理助理递过来的国旗,既是抒发豪情,
同时也是融入恒大的公关行为。
这个没有问题,踢球的人就是为了喜爱自己的球迷开心的,我觉得可以接受。
b*********s
发帖数: 6757
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 谁来科普下历史
I find the article made certain assertions that should be verified with
facts.
1. "费粉借这个机会打击豆粉"-- made it sound like it's already premeditated,
费粉 was only waiting for the opportunity to execute the plan.
2. "atm,还有一干费粉一看结果不是自己想要的,"-- here if we connect this with
previous claim "结果搞得这投票还不是一般倒,很接近。" one would assume "自
己想要的" infers to the possible outcome of the vote. Is that really the
case? How does the author know what others are thinking?
I find author's story is a bit biased toward one side,... 阅读全帖
b******n
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来自主题: Tennis版 - [合集] 谁来科普下历史
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dmcn (东门吹牛) 于 (Wed Jan 8 21:26:01 2014, 美东) 提到:
来网版两年多,只见识过老刀。版标事件是怎么个来龙去脉,听起来还挺腥风血雨的。
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uncommonsue (uncommonSue) 于 (Thu Jan 9 09:24:13 2014, 美东) 提到:
网版过去规矩是版标挂最新大满贯男女冠军,一年四回,一直延续没有异议。板上除了
讨论网球技术,就是费粉豆粉打情骂俏吵吵闹闹流量可以也不伤和气。结果李娜夺冠,
一个大赛型球迷发贴要求只挂李娜。费粉借这个机会打击豆粉,立刻支持换换换。豆粉
有点不舒服,为嘛要豆粉发扬风格做牺牲,有点不愿意但是也没说就不可以。当时版务
组,atm,biok支持改规则,KennyD认为规则不好随便改,反对。atm提出全民公决,民
主投票。当时李娜夺冠,所有版的人都来灌水了,这个投票明摆着结果就是定了的。豆
粉觉得这事太欺负人,就一边喊冤一边... 阅读全帖
m*****n
发帖数: 7450
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 记着我在这冷酷的时代歌颂自由
这个我也不太清楚,不过我不会俄语,没法读原文。一般来说,我觉得托斯陀耶夫斯基
的小说很多这样的,他风格明显嘛,各种人物心理描写交叉和意识流手法。而且关于长
句,不知道这里有没有一个翻译体的原因。我查这段的英文如下,感觉读起来顺很多。
But it had become quite a different matter with Aglaya. All the affectation
of manner which she had displayed at the beginning disappeared as the ballad
proceeded. She spoke the lines in so serious and exalted a manner, and with
so much taste, that she even seemed to justify the exaggerated solemnity
with which she had stepped forward. It was impossible to discern in her now
anyth... 阅读全帖
b*s
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 我想象有一天。。。
恩,premeditated

肯定早有准备
C***l
发帖数: 2625
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来自主题: PhotoForum版 - 重提Gainesville的街
In terms of "theme", I think halfy did way better than I did. My thoughts
were usually loose when I took pictures. I shot whatever attracted my eyes,
instead of premeditating about a topic before go shooting.
In research, halfy's work is "hypothesis driven". And my pictures may be
called hypothesis generating.
:)))
l*y
发帖数: 21010
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来自主题: Rock版 - bernard sumner interview 1994
www.jonsavage.com/film
Bernard Sumner
[interview, April 1994]
Bernard onstage
Bernard Albrecht Sumner
I first met Ian at a gig at the Electric Circus. It might have been the
Anarchy tour, it might have been The Clash, or one of them punk groups. Ian
was with another lad called Ian, and they both had donkey jackets, and Ian
had “HATE” written on the back of his donkey jacket. I remember liking him
. He seemed pretty nice, but we didn’t talk to him that much. I just
remembered him. Later on, about... 阅读全帖
k**o
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 给大家陈述一遍药案吧zz
不过这种就算在美国也只能判2nd degree murder,因为没有premeditation,确实是
crime of passion。当年辛普森案判无罪,就是因为检察官NC了一回,非要告1st
degree murder,结果证据不支持。如果告2nd degree murder肯定就判有罪了。
S**********n
发帖数: 46
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 给大家陈述一遍药案吧zz
First degree murder, premeditation means weighing the pros and cons before
murder.他明显在举刀之前想过这个。"杀她就怕被缠上”。 应是first degree murder.
d********f
发帖数: 43471
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简单的说
The aggravating factors that distinguish first degree murder from second
degree are first degree murder requires a specific intent to kill and
premeditation and deliberation.
但是你的英语不够好,所以理解有偏差,要加薪为了逃避日后可能的医疗费用而采取杀
人的行为,符合specific intent and deliberation
m********l
发帖数: 4394
O*******d
发帖数: 20343
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In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing that
is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed after
planning or "lying in wait" for the victim.
For example, Dan comes home to find his wife in bed with Victor. Three days
later, Dan waits behind a tree near Victor's front door. When Victor comes
out of the house, Dan shoots and kills him.
Most states also adhere to a legal concept known as the "felony murder rule,
" under which a person commits first-de... 阅读全帖
m********l
发帖数: 4394
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我不信, 你找个Case Law给我们看看
别把别人当傻子.
一级谋杀和二级谋杀最大的区别就是就是Premeditation.
你却说预谋不重要.
c**********g
发帖数: 433
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是否有 premeditated cold blooded intention to kill, 是一个 factual
determination. 律师和法官都无权决定。陪审团来定。法官只是陈述 law.
x*****u
发帖数: 6559
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 要加薪的事,在美国会怎么判?

不可能, 一定是二级。not premeditated.
l****u
发帖数: 2778
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 卧底警察参与袭击Range Rover...
哇,好贴阿
我学了好多英语单词阿
UndeniableTruth 5ptsFeatured
29 minutes ago.@Carl Silagyi
Had the SUV pulled off the side of the road the Bikers would have still
damaged his vehicle as they were trying to extort money from him. That's
what these guys do, they single out expensive vehicles and get them to stop
when the stage an "accident" by slowing back into them to bump them. Cruz
wasn't turned around looking for his buddies, he was turned around to judge
the distance to the SUV to make sure his "accident" ... 阅读全帖
s**i
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 文明的碰撞--说两句康蕾事件zt
我想她是说她没有 premeditated fraud 蓄意欺骗。所以这点上没愧疚吧。
这次康黑也是一路“推理”想给坐实这个premediated fraud的罪名。
a******o
发帖数: 261
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 据说我是头号康粉之一,我来说说
You bring up some valid points - Good.
Btw., it's not everyday that i get a reply like this that's fact based and
well thought of. I welcome any exchange like this, regardless of your stand.
In response to you I would say first let's not judge how ppl grieve. it's
not a scripted movie and you can't judge other ppl's action based on what
you perceive as "reasonable". When i heard the news that my grandma passed
away in 2001 it took 3 month for that to finally sink in. Yes I would have
raised m... 阅读全帖
c***n
发帖数: 921
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 据说我是头号康粉之一,我来说说
Can't agree more!
"let's not judge how ppl grieve. ...
you can't judge other ppl's action based on what
you perceive as "reasonable". "

Btw., it's not everyday that i get a reply like this that's fact based and
well thought of. I welcome any exchange like this, regardless of your stand.
In response to you I would say first let's not judge how ppl grieve. it's
not a scripted movie and you can't judge other ppl's action based on what
you perceive as "reasonable". When i heard the news that m... 阅读全帖
l****i
发帖数: 4609
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我最近经历了同事患癌症后的安排,2011 年有一个,是突然心肌梗塞。
康女士的行为根本无法用常理 ,正常的伦理,无论中美 ,来解释。她反复强调她刚学
会付账单,无非就是让人相信她尹榆生前,她不染指家里的经济,尹榆临去都没有给她
交代家里的经济状况,股票,银行存款 和人身保险事项。而这根本不可能。
她从发帖开始,就是premeditated for donation purpose, 难怪当时我看了后就是一
种非常奇怪的感觉,就是捐款的字眼还没有出来的时候,我就觉得她的行为不对劲。
g****1
发帖数: 89
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明眼人都看出来了。再怎么装得自然总让人觉得怪怪的。
完全赞同“premeditated for donation purpose” 一切都市为这个目的服务
x*********2
发帖数: 230
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暴恐事件中,十足虚伪与冷酷的《人民日报》尽搞双重标准
暴恐事件中,十足虚伪与冷酷的《人民日报》
3月3日,《人民日报》图解了外媒对昆明和伦敦砍杀事件的对比,指责英国BBC、《每
日电讯》和美国CNN、Fox新闻等媒体对两个事件的不同用词,说西方媒体集体性“失明
”,失聪,或有意识地淡化暴恐,并同情暴力。
很有意思的是,这个图解本身就体现了《人民日报》虚伪与冷酷的双重标准。
对事件简述中,《人民日报》对昆明事件表述为“云南昆明301严重暴力恐怖事件”,
而对伦敦事件则表述为“伦敦砍杀事件”,回避了“暴力恐怖”这一词汇,淡化了伦敦
的暴恐。
而且,这个《人民日报》的图解故意选择性失明,对英国媒体《每日电讯》(The
Telegraph)的新闻“在对中国火车站野蛮攻击中 持刀恐怖分子至少杀害了29人”(
Knife-wielding terrorists kill at least 29 in savage Chinese train station
attack”的大字标题视而不见,而只盯住“暴力”(Violence)和“持刀砍杀”(Knife
-wielding)字眼说事。
而这个《每日... 阅读全帖
m**c
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google翻译的,凑合着看吧.
On homosexuality a crime Criminology Perspective
Long Wen Jin
Abstract : In recent years, along with a wide range of social organizations
, stakeholders , lifestyle , various social contradictions punch
Suddenly stand out, it is also a serious crime . In addition to traditional
types of crime , but also appeared in some of the larger implications of the
new
The type of crime , crime is one of them gay . Homosexuality, sexual
orientation , it is a means to the same sex as the obj... 阅读全帖
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