h*h
发帖数: 27852 | 1 有可能，不过德军机会很大，我觉着有至少80%把握。越早打莫斯科，苏军战斗力越差。时间在苏联一边。
Moscow or Kiev-- How Germany could have won WW2
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Pt. #1
The Russian Front was the decisive theatre of WW2. If Germany won everywhere
else, but lost on the Russian Front, then they lost the war. But 80% of the
Wehrmacht was employed fighting the Soviets, so if they lost everywhere
else, but they won on the Russian Front, then depending on when these events
took place t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12955 | 2
No. They would secretly use that information to extract sensitive
information, and purge officials who actually have no connection to US. |
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发帖数: 30882 | 3 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: liushanhu (我代表党和人民处决你！), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 反华政客洪培博把自己女儿让共匪太子党干
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 26 02:00:17 2011, 美东)
古有反美女将马楠把自己让美国人干，今有反华政客洪培博把自己女儿让共匪太子党干
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405311190449170457657255
One evening early this year, a red Ferrari pulled up at the U.S. ambassador'
s residence in Beijing, and the son of one of China's top leaders stepped
out, dressed in a tuxedo.
Bo Guagua, 23, was expected. He had a dinner appointment with a daughter of
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发帖数: 254 | 4 Then get your facts straight.
How many people did Stalin purge in his own country? How many did he murder
ruthlessly in his allies such as Eastern Europe and China?
How many did US kill in the Western world? Even if you count the Vietnam war
and Korean war, it's not even close. |
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发帖数: 901 | 5 John Edwards is the putrefied meat of the American political system --
literally, as far as your brain is concerned. Think about Edwards for a
moment -- the perfect hair, the honey voice, the oleaginous smile. Your lip
curled ever so slightly, didn't it? A teensy bit of bile may have risen in
your throat. The lip curl is a threat display, the bile is an attempt to
purge a toxin. Both were triggered at least partly by your prefrontal cortex
and your temporal lobes -- and both would have also occu... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4776 | 6 BEIJING (Reuters) - The Communist Party boss of China's southwestern city of
Chongqing, Bo Xilai, has been removed, state news agency Xinhua said on
Thursday, following a scandal involving a senior aide who took refuge in a U
.S. diplomatic mission last month.
ice Premier Zhang Dejiang will replace Bo, Xinhua said in a brief report,
and will also keep his vice premier portfolio.
Xinhua did not mention whether Bo had lost his seat in the Politburo
Standing Committee, the government's highest leve... 阅读全帖 |
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w**********g
发帖数: 1985 | 7 陷入一片狂欢的帝国主义媒体
路透社：中共高层竞争者薄熙来被解除职位
美联社：王立军事件后，薄熙来遭解职
彭博社：中共调查后，薄熙来被撤销（axed）重庆市委书记职位
CNN：中国副总理接替四面楚歌的（embattled）重庆市委书记
CNN：丑闻发生后中国撤销（axe）薄熙来重庆市官职
BBC：中国政界要员（leading politician）被解除职务
《卫报》：中国“罢黜”（ousts)重庆市委书记薄熙来
《纽约时报》：自命不凡（upstart）的中国领导人被罢黜
《华盛顿邮报》：中共高层震荡（shakeup），薄熙来被解雇
《华尔街日报》：为薄熙来的离开喝彩（cheer)
《悉尼先驱晨报》：中共政治丑闻“沸溢”，红色运动复兴领袖薄熙来被解雇
《每日电讯报》：中国最具权势（most powerful）的政治家之一被解雇（
sacked）
《每日电讯报》：中共高层领导人薄熙来被批1天后遭免职（purged）
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发帖数: 1985 | 8 丢掉幻想，准备革命
黎阳
2012．3．15．
温家宝的“答记者问”和薄熙来的下台证明：在这个“千古一相”（更确切地说，“千
古一贼相”）及其后台老板和同伙心目中，中国最大的敌人、最大的问题不是贪官污吏
，不是帝国主义，不是国际垄断资本主义，不是贪污腐败，不是外来侵略，不是藏独疆
独，不是内奸卖国贼，而是重庆，是重庆的“共同富裕”、“公平也是生产力”、“分
好蛋糕”——这么多年来，他们什么时候对贪官污吏、帝国主义、国际垄断资本主义、
贪污腐败、外来侵略、藏独疆独和内奸卖国贼象这次对重庆那样声色俱厉严厉打击过？
贪官污吏横行霸道他们不急不怒不骂不动；国际垄断资本主义压榨中国人民的血汗敲骨
吸髓他们不急不怒不骂不动；中国社会贪污横行、道德沦丧、污染极端严重、贫富极端
对立、民怨几近沸腾他们不急不怒不骂不动，外国侵占中国领土领海他们不急不怒不骂
不动，藏独疆独在国内杀人放火不急不怒不骂不动，甚至外国军人侵入中国领土杀人抢
劫他们照样不急不怒不骂不动，照样一团和气彬彬有礼，连句硬话都没有，哪曾象这回
对重庆这样咬牙切齿雷厉风行？难道重庆的问题压倒一切比天还大？难道中国全国的问
题都是重庆一个地... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1983 | 9 有些极端，基本赞同，顶！
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发信人: wayofflyingg (小小熊熊), 信区: Military
标 题: 丢掉幻想，准备革命 黎阳 zt
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 15 20:23:41 2012, 美东)
丢掉幻想，准备革命
黎阳
2012．3．15．
温家宝的“答记者问”和薄熙来的下台证明：在这个“千古一相”（更确切地说，“千
古一贼相”）及其后台老板和同伙心目中，中国最大的敌人、最大的问题不是贪官污吏
，不是帝国主义，不是国际垄断资本主义，不是贪污腐败，不是外来侵略，不是藏独疆
独，不是内奸卖国贼，而是重庆，是重庆的“共同富裕”、“公平也是生产力”、“分
好蛋糕”——这么多年来，他们什么时候对贪官污吏、帝国主义、国际垄断资本主义、
贪污腐败、外来侵略、藏独疆独和内奸卖国贼象这次对重庆那样声色俱厉严厉打击过？
贪官污吏横行霸道他们不急不怒不骂不动；国际垄断资本主义压榨中国人民的血汗敲骨
吸髓他们不急不怒不骂不动；中国社会贪污横行、道德沦丧、污染极端严重、贫富极端
对立、民怨几... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2971 | 10 文章来源: 多维 于 2012-03-21 07:44:51 - 新闻取自各大新闻媒体，新闻内容并不代
表本网立场！
打印本新闻 (被阅读 8365 次)
西方媒体近来一直在通过重庆风波解读中共高层内部决策及政治改革。英国《金融时报
》3月20日发文曝料，温家宝曾三次在中共高层秘密会议中提议为六四平反，但是遭到
薄熙来的强烈反对。
文章称，中国上个世纪所发生的暴力政治事件已经被中共从历史书籍和公众讨论中抹去
，中共此举意在否认自己犯下的惨痛错误。所以，能够在两会记者会听到温家宝总理谈
“重蹈文革可能性”就很令人诧异。文章认为，温家宝持续提由毛泽东发起的文革动乱
是在斥责薄熙来这位具有民粹色彩的“太子党”政客。温家宝此番斥责数小时后，薄熙
来就被免职。
而批评人士抨击薄熙来在重庆开展的“文革式”政策，因为这些政策涉及让毛时代革命
歌曲与宣传（Propaganda）死灰复燃，涉及到对薄熙来眼中的“党羽”予以恶意打压。
但是，对于那些专门解读温家宝“费尽心思、暗有所指”演讲术的人，温家宝“文革”
一席话所暗示的已超出薄熙来倒台事件本身。而薄熙来今后可能面临各种不确定罪名的
指控。
文章根据接... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 23939 | 11 西方媒体近来一直在通过重庆风波解读中共高层内部决策及政治改革。英国《金融时报
》3月20发文曝料，温家宝曾三次在中共高层秘密会议中提议为六四平反，但是遭到薄
熙来的强烈反对。
文章称，中国上个世纪所发生的暴力政治事件已经被中共从历史书籍和公众讨论中抹去
，中共此举意在否认自己犯下的惨痛错误。所以，能够在两会记者会听到温家宝总理谈
“重蹈文革可能性”就很令人诧异。文章认为，温家宝持续提由毛泽东发起的文革动乱
是在斥责薄熙来这位具有民粹色彩的“太子党”政客。温家宝此番斥责数小时后，薄熙
来就被免职。
而批评人士抨击薄熙来在重庆开展的“文革式”政策，因为这些政策涉及让毛时代革命
歌曲与宣传（Propaganda）死灰复燃，涉及到对薄熙来眼中的“党羽”予以恶意打压。
但是，对于那些专门解读温家宝“费尽心思、暗有所指”演讲术的人，温家宝“文革”
一席话所暗示的已超出薄熙来倒台事件本身。而薄熙来今后可能面临各种不确定罪名的
指控。
文章根据接近中共高层内部讨论的人士提供的消息称，温家宝曾尝试为六四平反铺平道
路，从而打破中国既定政治规则，并开启他近年来高调提及的政治改革。具体来讲就是
尝试对六四事... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 321 | 12 原文在此，FT记者还真3.19夜里开车到北京各部门转了一圈发现什么事都没有。连法拉利的事都扯上了。
The Financial Times
March 21, 2012 3:25 pm
Beijing on edge amid coup rumours
By Jamil Anderlini in Beijing
The Chinese capital is awash with speculation, innuendo and rumours of a
coup following the most important political purge in decades, with even some
of the most well-informed officials in the dark about what comes next.
Since Bo Xilai, one of China’s most powerful leaders, was removed from his
job last Thursday, the bureaucracy and the publ... 阅读全帖 |
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e**i
发帖数: 1983 | 13 薄熙来（加上周永康？）的败北或许已是定数，不过英文原文已指出是rumor，楼主标题误导，如此急不可耐？！是轮子？嗤笑
原文来源
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/650bb0f6-735f-11e1-aab3-00144feab4
3/21/2012 3:25PM
英文原文
The Chinese capital is awash with speculation, innuendo and rumors of a coup following the most important political purge in decades, with even some of the most well-informed officials in the dark about what comes next.
Since Bo Xilai, one of China’s most powerful leaders, was removed from his job last Thursday, the bureaucracy and the public have ... 阅读全帖 |
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z****g
发帖数: 3340 | 14 SB，我只是引用金融时报的报道。你要智商低就只读相应智商的东西，免得脑子转不过
来。
标题误导，如此急不可耐？！是轮子？嗤笑
coup following the most important political purge in decades, with even some
of the most well-informed officials in the dark about what comes next.
his job last Thursday, the bureaucracy and the public have been on
tenterhooks, awaiting the next twist in the gripping political saga.
week, China’s heavily censored media have not mentioned his name, let alone
provided any clues about what will happen to him.
Twitter-like microblogs, h... 阅读全帖 |
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R****a
发帖数: 6858 | 15 欧洲债务火山又开始井喷了
来源: deewoo 于 2012-04-16 22:29:41 [档案] [博客] 旧帖] [转至博客] [给我悄悄
话] 本文已被阅读：631次 字体：调大/调小/重置 | 加入书签 | 打印 | 所有跟帖 |
加跟贴 | 查看当前最热讨论主题
(发表于美国最大的Financial Newsletter出版商Agora的旗舰刊物Daily Reckoning中
国版）
IMF总裁Lagarde女士可以算是世界上最有品位最有幽默感的乞丐了：在参加世界经济论
坛的时候，她拿起自己的路易斯威登提包对在场的全球政经大佬说：我带着我的小包包
来这里讨点钱使了（I am here, with my little bag, to collect a bit of money.
）。
欧债危机在打上LTRO的创可贴后再次井喷。
四个星期之前，法国总统Sarkozy还热情宣布欧元危机已解，Lagarde女士也附和道：欧
洲的春天就要到了。如果真是这样的话，那么这将是史上最短的一个春天。
如同我在2月18日广州日报撰文写到：ECB 的良好愿景是商业银行从LTRO得到流动性后,... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 16 Landlord praises Bo Xilai's accused wife as 'the perfect tenant'
The British landlord of the Chinese woman accused over the murder of Neil
Heywood described her as the "perfect tenant" and said he never suspected
her of having an affair with the businessman.
There have been allegations that Gu Kailai, the wife of the purged
politician Bo Xilai, and Heywood were romantically involved. One report even
suggested that they carried on their relationship while she was living in
Britain helping her son... 阅读全帖 |
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e**i
发帖数: 1983 | 17 发信人: lblayer (leonis), 信区: Military
标 题: 江泽民北京会见starbucks CEO (Bloomberg News)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 20 01:17:04 2012, 美东)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-20/starbucks-ceo-schultz-
Jiang Said to Surface After Bo Purge to Meet Starbucks Chief
By Bloomberg News - Apr 20, 2012 1:54 AM ET .
Former Chinese President Jiang Zemin met Starbucks Corp. (SBUX) Chief
Executive Officer Howard Schultz on April 17 in Beijing, a person familiar
with the meeting said. Jiang emerged in the capital ahead ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 18 Bo Xilai's wife 'bewitched the men of Bournemouth'
The Chinese politician’s wife accused of the murder of old Harrovian Neil
Heywood had remarkable power over men, claimed those who knew her while she
lived in Britain.
By Richard Alleyne 10:00PM BST 20 Apr 2012
Gu Kailai, 53, a lawyer who is married to Bo Xilai, one of China’s most
powerful men until his recent purge from the party, was described as “
beautiful” and seemed to “bewitch” men and gain their loyalty almost
immediately.
Among them ap... 阅读全帖 |
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l*c
发帖数: 65 | 19 Obama was briefed immediately about death of British ex-pat Neil Heywood,
whose 'killer may have had a plane blown out of the sky'
The US president was told of alleged murder before foreign secretary
William Hague
Decision to inform president so soon after 'killing' is almost
unprecedented
Claims that murder suspect Gu Kailai ordered a plane to be blown up -
killing 112 people
The wife of rising Communist Party leader's political opponent was
target of the explosion
Chinese e... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 30882 | 20
Anyone who disagrees with you is 太偏激, right?
Those who believe in Jesus consider themselves as pepople that will be saved
and look down the other people. So when they don't go well, they attribute
the fault to other people. If they are still going badly, they come to think
that some of the other people are actually devils within human skins and
try to purge the environment. However, the other people around them are just
common persons like themselves.
Who is really 太偏激, you or me? |
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A******r
发帖数: 974 | 21 Original Article
Details Are Refuted in Tale of Bo Guagua's Red Ferrari
Reuters
BEIJING — The tale has taken on mythic proportions in China, tainting one
of the country’s most ambitious leaders and adding fuel to a scandal that
is still unfolding in the halls of power here.
It goes like this: Bo Guagua, the younger son of the leader, Bo Xilai,
arrived one evening last spring at the home of the United States ambassador
to pick up one of the ambassador’s daughters for a dinner date. He was
suppose... 阅读全帖 |
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P******n
发帖数: 18 | 22 看看NYTimes, 薄瓜瓜根本就没有什么豪车泡洋妞。 抹黑薄的手段而已. 中了别人的计了
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/01/world/asia/in-china-details-i
BEIJING — The tale has taken on mythic proportions in China, tainting one
of the country’s most ambitious leaders and adding fuel to a scandal that
is still unfolding in the halls of power here.
Related
On a Tightrope, President Prods China on Rights (May 1, 2012)
Times Topic: Bo Xilai
Connect With Us on Twitter
Follow @nytimesworld for international breaking news and headlines.
Twitter ... 阅读全帖 |
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C****g
发帖数: 2220 | 23 裸官
Moving the family abroad
Hedging their bets
Officials, looking for an exit strategy, send family and cash overseas
May 26th 2012 | BEIJING | from the print edition
THE phrase “naked official”, or luo guan, was coined in 2008 by a
bureaucrat and blogger in Anhui province, Zhou Peng'an, to describe
officials who have moved their family abroad, often taking assets with them.
Once there, they are beyond the clutches of the Communist Party in case
anything, such as a corruption investigation, shou... 阅读全帖 |
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c***h
发帖数: 1862 | 24 也有洋大人抽你的脸。
Google Book Review: 4 Stars
Review: The Vladimirov diaries
Editorial Review - Kirkus Reviews
A first-person view of Sino-Soviet diplomacy during the war years 1942-1945,
when the author was the TASS military expert and Comintern agent assigned
to the mountain headquarters of the Chinese Communist Party. Vladimirov is
blunt in his detestation of Mao as a narrow, chauvinistic Confucian. ""
Everything in him bespeaks a long line of peasant ancestry"" and he is
fondest of ""semi-anarchist... 阅读全帖 |
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y*****y
发帖数: 1208 | 25 all progressive countries in this world, G8 and emerging countries including
india and brazil, have nation wide elections. And only in China, the syste
is still so backward. It is no better than the one in the 60's and 70s.
most transitions had some level of power struggle, purge w intention/
accusation of coup. |
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发帖数: 796 | 26 薄熙来拒不配合调查 打算硬到底？两度绝食 被强制输液
作者: 路透社消息(魏.都.甘.梅) [213412:5092], 12:33:01 02/21/2013:
路透社援引圈内人士消息，前重庆市委书记薄熙来被“双规”以后，已两度进行
了绝食。这位受到贪污、向海外转移资产等指控的前政客在绝食之后受到强制性输液。
消息来源还称，他还被强行送往医院接受了治疗。
据悉，薄熙来拒绝配合调查人员的工作。目前并不知道63岁的薄熙来身体状况到
底如何，他的关押地点具体在何处。人们也不知道他的案件将被何时审理。
China's Bo Xilai not cooperating on probe, been on hunger strike:
sources China's former Chongqing Municipality Communist Party Secretary
Bo Xilai attends a session of the Chinese People's Political Consultative
Confe... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12955 | 27 "64最好的结局就是64镇压学生后，要绝对的、毫不
手软的镇压一批贪官污吏，规模要比镇压学生的更大更持久。"
Impossible. If the government started doing that, it will immediately fall
apart. It would have lost trust in both the people and the bureaucracy.
The corrupt officials who are in danger of been purged will most certainly
have been in contact with US to sell out China in exchange of becoming the
head of a puppet "democratic" government. |
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发帖数: 29576 | 28 http://www.dailydot.com/society/zhu-ling-sun-wei-petition-case/
The heartbreaking saga of Zhu Ling
By Kevin Morris
In a grainy, black-and-white video of her final performance, Zhu Ling sweeps
across the stage in a black skirt and white blouse before taking a seat
behind a guqin, the six-stringed Chinese zither. She's been feeling sick
recently, and you can tell she's a little nervous. But her fingers are
precise. They pluck out a cautious melody.
Zhu has no idea she's been poisoned.
A heavy meta... 阅读全帖 |
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b******3
发帖数: 4385 | 29 i would argue that everything Stalin did associated with purging people is
an extension of the cultural revolution .
末。 |
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l********g
发帖数: 6760 | 30 小男友真爽，wsn从小都在书本习题中度过，羡慕嫉妒恨啊 |
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f***x
发帖数: 3195 | 31 刚来美国时去中国老板家做客，同组一位中国大姐也来了，领着女儿，抱着外孙。中国
大姐的女儿读高中，不理睬在座的所有中国人。男友是个白人小混混。
妈妈似乎责备teenage女儿，要她向叔叔阿姨问好什么的，teenage总是说“no, I do
not want to do that"。 |
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A*******m
发帖数: 2326 | 32 中国国内的孩子，大部分还是很讲礼貌，也很讲服从的
这样其实挺好的
也不知道那些美国teenage girl怎么就那么饥渴
我28岁了还没亲过嘴，她们18岁都搞过了 |
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z***y
发帖数: 13818 | 34 人家自己的人生自己负责, 跟你们有个鸡毛的关系? |
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j*****p
发帖数: 24000 | 35 你也太晚了吧
我20岁就亲过嘴，23岁就搞过了，但是那时10多年前，还算晚的了
去年回国见几个在高中教书的同学说现在的国内高中生也开始搞了，大学就更多了
当然美国这边种都不一样，这边高中生性成熟得应该过正常性生活了 |
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H*********S
发帖数: 22772 | 36 美国这边激素奶激素肉，28岁还不亲嘴盆腔都充血坏死了 |
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d******w
发帖数: 2213 | 38 去教会是双面刃。信也就罢了。不信了就糟了。由信到不信的从来都是更叛逆的。那些
小米国女孩有几个没受过洗，没去过教堂啊。 |
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 40 但愿米国人民真的有良心的觉醒，彻底推翻这种充斥着血腥暴力偏见仇恨的变态暴力文
化传统。 |
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b******3
发帖数: 4385 | 41 If he was not purged by Deng, your dad is a different dad, you may also be a
different you:) |
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S*******T
发帖数: 5156 | 43 这家那几个小孩真是脑残。
这就是人类的本性啊，不管上一代吃了多大苦遭了多大罪，好日子过上几十年下一代马
上就退化了。 |
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m********g
发帖数: 10469 | 44 呵呵，天天能吃饱饭的家能出左逼儿。从古到近莫不如此，小资家庭出来的革命青年和
资本家家庭割裂，推翻自己的父辈阶层，末了把自个都送牛棚里改造 |
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S*******l
发帖数: 4637 | 45 这个写的不错。基本抓住了脉络。
共产主义本质上是一种宗教，本身是一种不可证伪，也不可证实的faith.毛是真诚的相
信这个信仰，并坚决推动他的实践。一次一次的思想改造其实就是convert的运动。其
实是宗教性质的purge。
共运和早起基督教成为罗马国教以后的行为如出一辙。基本都是坚信我掌握了真理，你
们都要学习实践这个真理。 |
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M******8
发帖数: 10589 | 46 http://www.raskb.com/transactions/VOL64/VOL64-3.docx
“You are Dead, the Square is Dead”: The 1989 Chinese Pro-Democracy
Movement
by Karen EGGLESTON
You are dead, the Square is dead.
They say now is a great victory,
thinking that death can protect their criminal existence.
We live on,
We give our hearts to you,the dead ones,
to let you live again through our lives,
to complete the mission which you left incomplete.
by Gu Cheng and Yang... 阅读全帖 |
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a******n
发帖数: 280 | 49 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133462/Obama-briefed-i
Obama was briefed immediately about death of British ex-pat Neil Heywood,
whose 'killer may have had a plane blown out of the sky'
The US president was told of alleged murder before foreign secretary William
Hague
Decision to inform president so soon after 'killing' is almost unprecedented
Claims that murder suspect Gu Kailai ordered a plane to be blown up -
killing 112 people
The wife of rising Communist Party leader's political op... 阅读全帖 |
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L***6
发帖数: 8307 | 50 虎王的意见老僧不敢苟同
你说的TG对外用兵，那还是支撑我的观点啊，就是要保障政权稳定啊。TG刚打下天下的
时候，就像个孤儿给扔到街上，狗屁不会，啥都没有，还有不少人都想灭掉它，比如大
陆留下的N万国民党间谍。TG打朝鲜，就是为了从执政经验丰富的斯大林那边得到一整
套保护自己政权的东西，有武器，有生产线，有工程师专家，还有苏联搞purge的那套
经验，比如秘密监狱，刑讯方法，秦城都他妈的是苏联专家帮忙造起来的，不打朝鲜，
就没有苏联的鼎力支持，就没有TG的稳定政权。当年反右，流放右派，大量折磨死右派
，就是山寨苏联当年的古拉格，还做出了不少改进。
后来几场大仗，本质还是为了政权的稳定，打越南为啥，就是给苏联脸色看，讨好美国
，不讨好美国，哪有10年中西蜜月期，可以大量进口欧洲美国的先进军事装备，包括今
天飞豹还在用的英国发动机！！
政权稳定，是第一位的，为了几个不知名的P民，去闹外交纠纷，去给外国政府脸色，
这种事情TG不会干的，和政权稳定没有一点关系。 |
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