a**6
发帖数: 106 | 1 The ATI stock pad, like limbsaver, will soften up the felt recoil but not
reducing much. It will not make your 12 ga pump shot like an AR felt recoil
. However, its adjustable stock feature actually works better to shorten
the length of pull to better fit the shooter for the square-up form.
If you don't have medical issue, better spend the effort to train
on how to properly mount and handle the shotgun instead throwing money away.
http://bcove.me/6wjm49np
After tried a few options over the... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****h
发帖数: 1266 | 2 实用射击比赛枪的话，一般cycle部分的部件，根据自身的情况是越轻越好，有利于枪
的快速循环，能加快第二发的瞄准。
但也有不利的地方，1.增加recoil，枪上扬会大些 2.加大frame和slide之间的撞击，
加大损耗。
最好是每个重量都买，一个个试，看哪个最顺手，反正弹簧也不贵。随着射手的水平以
及控制recoil能力的提高，recoil弹簧在保证枪能正常循环下，应该越来越轻。 |
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a**6
发帖数: 106 | 4 楼主说的第一句就是說他的”腰背有毛病”，不是他的肩受不了。什麼
Recoil reduce
device and defense ammo on market 都不能減少12ga的Recoil情度 至not hurting
the back.
If you have medical condition, find some firearms with less recoil that fit
your condition. |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 5 昨天在 calaway demo day 试了几根 iron. apex, xhot, x2 hot. apex 杆头配
recoil 杆身感觉很轻很顺手。
recoil好像是不锈钢与石墨纤维合金。
本来想买一根上场试试。结果 sales rep 查了半天查不到价钱。只好算了。回来网上
一查 iron set $1199. |
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r*****7
发帖数: 574 | 6 SGL21上的stock实在是又长又硬 用着不舒服 打算换个AR Style的stock
请问有没有哪位仁兄用过 Mako Recoil-Compensating Collapsible Buttstock
请问这个Recoil-Compensating影响射击精度吗? 谢谢 |
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S***e
发帖数: 957 | 7 打了25发，威力够大，recoil很厉害，打的时候肩很疼，打完还好。
各位能推荐个好的recoil pad吗？ |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 8 AK/AR pistol和AK/AR長槍的區別是pistol無buttstock和只有短筒，
recoil全靠手？而且也不瞄準的吧？瞄準的話recoil可能打到臉上。有人
打這種槍嗎？ |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 9 看到好几个人说.40S&W P229比P226 recoil小，为啥小枪
recoil会小呢？9mm的有区别吗？ |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 10 看到好几个人说.40S&W P229比P226 recoil小，为啥小枪
recoil会小呢？9mm的有区别吗？ |
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s**l
发帖数: 869 | 11 腰背有毛病。头脑一热买了870 12 gauge家防，然后意识到recoil太大，即使枪托有橡
胶。
请推荐有效的recoil reducer。谢谢！ |
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r****9
发帖数: 4961 | 12 今天试射俺的新枪Ｓ＆Ｗ PD 340. 试了.38 special and 0.357 mag.
枪实在是太轻了。recoil太强了，感觉完全控制不住，每打一枪都觉得虎口阵痛，需要
休息休息才能再打。 尤其是.357 mag. |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 13 或者可以考虑买一件shooting shirt，肩上有放recoil pad的袋子。 |
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s********2
发帖数: 169 | 14 如果整天让slide处在拉开的状态，把cable lock 穿过去，recoil spring 会不会疲劳
？ |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 16 Breast Absorbing Recoil CAR 15 |
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 17 我的Kimber Warrior打了3000多发以后时不时出现release slide以后,第一发压不进膛
的状况,应该是要换recoil spring了.我打230gr的子弹,原厂的spring应该是16 lbs的,
我需不需要换一根heavy一点的弹簧?! 比如16.5 lbs 或者17 lbs? |
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h*********l
发帖数: 615 | 18 我不知道压不进膛是不是弹簧弱了 但是如果常压蛋蛋壳飞到3米开外 你就可以考虑换了
您都打了3000多发还没换(<16磅？) 有人买回来就换了18-18.5磅recoil spring 我个
人经验换了18.5磅后蛋壳在2-3米范围 后坐力更缓和 不过我换上新弹簧后 keep slide
open了一白天把弹簧压稳定
的, |
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d***b
发帖数: 3 | 19 在版上潜水了一段时间了，终于也进了一把神枪P226，
人生第一把枪，是在Buds 买的，上周六从FFL那里拿到枪。
到现在还没拿到靶场去过，就是回家后用snap cap 练习了几下dry fire.
今天把枪拆开看了一下，其他都还好，只是发现 recoil guide rod 看上去很旧，
上面有很多划痕，rod 的顶端顶着Barrel的地方也有磨得很白的印子。
想请问一下大家这样是正常的么？是不是新枪拉几下slide，rod 就会被弹簧磨出印子？
我是不是该去找Sig? 附上几张照片，请大家帮忙鉴定下。。。 |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 20 看review是说.40的snappier，就是快，有暴发性，而.45慢一点，felt
recoil小一点，你们的经验呢？我在考虑入.40还是.45 |
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k**0
发帖数: 19737 | 21 那是AR的recoil buffer tube，设计问题，不能去掉 |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 22 Model 60。打一槍357要不要揉半天手腕？如果參照是full size metal
frame 9mm，model 60 + 357 recoil是兩倍？
把J |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 23 照说是有悖于普遍认为的长管重，recoil小的道理，所以不解呢。
想问问打过两把的是不是这样纸 |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 24 真是felt recoil，每人感觉不同。看来要自己打了才知道啊。 |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 26 照说是有悖于普遍认为的长管重，recoil小的道理，所以不解呢。
想问问打过两把的是不是这样纸 |
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i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 27 真是felt recoil，每人感觉不同。看来要自己打了才知道啊。 |
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D****g
发帖数: 1551 | 29 只打过.40S&W P229和9MM P226. P229 recoil大.
P226 是为 9MM 设计的. P229是为.40S&W 设计的, 优化点不同. 所以我觉得你若玩.
40S&W, 就选P229. |
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m***h
发帖数: 77 | 30 和朋友去了一次室内靶场，试了霰弹枪，猎枪和手枪，回来之后各种研究和纠结。。。
最终想先买长枪，（但是在靶场的时候主要打得手枪，因为第一次打靶长枪太响后座太
厉害了）。主要的考虑是
1，主要是在range玩，打猎或打飞盘的可能不大
2，相比扣扳机听响，更喜欢拉枪栓和撸枪管的感觉
3，不想把自己搞得这儿青那儿肿，能先享受射击的乐趣，不折腾。
4，先买支recoil小的rifle(bolt action)练习和学习，噼里啪啦刷一下存在感。
5，待熟了再买支20G的shotgun，觉得20G也能家防吧...
6，9mm手枪最后总是也得搞一把，HK，226之类的。
7，尽量买好的，说不定老婆也能试试，将来孩子大了送给他也行。
看了http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=56996，倾向于.223 Rem,.243 Win,但是实在是没有任何clue,请问有经验的枪友有什么建议？ |
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j*********t
发帖数: 217 | 31 Remington supercell 或者Limbsaver
也可以考虑recoil reducing stock |
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j*********t
发帖数: 217 | 32 这个没用过，不清楚。不喜欢手枪把。
各种recoil pad都多少有些用，尤其是limbsaver，用了以后肩膀再不肿了 |
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j*********t
发帖数: 217 | 33 老实说，我并不觉的slug的recoil和OO的有啥大差别
从target load到OO是个质变
只要不用slug一点问题都没有，鹿弹鸟弹都不会太伤人，我夏天穿单衣打了九十发
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z***e
发帖数: 5600 | 35 你打1oz #7 1/2 target load能接受后坐力吗？可以的话家防可以买federal premium
reduced recoil flitecontrol buckshots。霰弹枪家防也不用太多练习，打几发熟悉
后座和cycling就成了。平时还是target load打飞碟玩。实在不成就卖了，换20ga的半
自动（导气的比惯性的后座还轻），或者干脆换手枪 |
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u**r
发帖数: 810 | 36 靠谱，小小一个枪托不可能像建筑物的抗震系统一样把能量吸收掉，如果足够大是能够
做到，不过就重的拿不动了。搞得没那么痛，没那么多乌青，就可以了
十分同意 length of pull adjustable 的意义
recoil
away. |
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j*********t
发帖数: 217 | 37 个人不喜欢这个Blackhawk stock，打脸打的受不了。
我用的是Magpul的stock，感觉是这类产品里最好的。LOP也是可调的。
recoil
away. |
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u**r
发帖数: 810 | 38 pistol grip 用在recoil大的shotgun上本身就是概念错误，否则shotgun直接就设计成
pistol grip了。
声明：新手己见不足为参 |
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T******1
发帖数: 158 | 39 TW上的评价：If you like the idea of polyester with the added spin, and
constant stringbed without having to adjust the strings, but you don't have
the batspeed to really make it sing, (If you are currently playing poly and
leaving it in for a month, then this is you), or if you like the idea of
something that performs in a similar manner, but is softer feeling and more
powerful. Try Prince Recoil. I was very impressed with it, and think it will
help a large number of players. On the downside, it is p... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 40 Turner's Outdoorsman has Winchester Winlite Low Recoil 12 Ga #00 Buck for $2
.98 per box, limit 5 boxes per customer, B&M only.
This deal is only good for Wednesday 12/7.
Next best price I found was 4.99 @ midwayUSA.com
Link:
http://www.turners.com/weekly/offthehook_2011-12-07.html
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 41 HANDGUN AMMUNITION:
SELF DEFENSE
Ammunition manufactured in the United States is among the finest in the
world. For intended defensive uses, the gun owner will not go wrong in
selecting ammunition produced by the most widely recognized manufacturers.
These include CCI/Speer, Cor-Bon, Federal, Remington, and Winchester.
Allow no margin for error in protecting one's life. Avoid potentially
unreliable ammunition that is hand loaded, re-loaded, or of dubious quality
foreign manufacture when ch... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 42 by Bruce N. Eimer, Ph.D
The question is often asked, “what is the best handgun for concealed carry?
” There are many valid answers to this question and they usually begin with
, “well, it depends on a number of factors.” However, in my humble opinion
, there is one universally valid answer, and that is, “it is the gun that
you have on you when you need it.” With that said, the purpose of this
brief article is to make you aware of twelve handguns that are so easy to
carry, that there is no excuse... 阅读全帖 |
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 43 Short Action Cartridges
223 Remington
This is an excellent shortrange to a good midrange cartridge.
It's good out to about 600yds, but the wind pushes it around much past that.
The realistic maximum range is 1000yds and there are very few bullets that
will even make it that far.
There are many options in factory made rifles, though most will not have the
proper twists and chambers to make use of the best longrange bullets.
There are many factory match quality loads available.
Cost to reload is l... 阅读全帖 |
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j***n
发帖数: 3786 | 44 Long Action Cartridges
6mm-06
This is an excellent longrange cartridge, but it derives it's performance
from a couple very specific longrange bullets.
It's good to 1000yds, but the wind will be pushing the lighter bullets
around much past that.
The realistic maximum range is 1500yds with 115gr Dtacs.
There are no factory made rifles so this is a custom build proposition.
There are no factory match quality loads available so you have to reload
your own ammo.
Cost to reload is moderate, brass is f... 阅读全帖 |
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h*********2
发帖数: 2508 | 45 有点长，但是挺好玩
After some years now of reading internet bulletin boards, I think I’ve got
the pros and cons of possible SHTF rifle choices figured out. Correct me if
I’m wrong, but the following is my analysis based upon the wisdom of
numerous gun board gurus (you know them, they’re always the first ones to
tell you a particular model gun is “junk” and enlighten you as to why they
have made the only logical purchases)…
The AR 15:
Great, awesome, unbelievable rifle(when it works). Can hit a fly in the... 阅读全帖 |
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c****x
发帖数: 1270 | 46 Possibly the only topic to generate more arguments than politics is the
never-ending discussion of what qualifies as the “best” home-defense gun.
The truth of the matter is, no single shooting solution meets the needs of
every individual or household. Every firearm is an exercise in compromise.
Each platform has limitations to be considered carefully when making a
choice.
Many firearms can be useful for a variety of applications, such as target
shooting, hunting and concealed carry, as well as p... 阅读全帖 |
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i*******8
发帖数: 7955 | 47 The news comes from Destiny 2 project lead Mark Noseworthy, who was speaking
with Finder Australia.
Asked if the precision of mouse aiming might make some challenges easier on
PC than console, Noseworthy says “we’ve thought about that quite a bit..
we may look in a few places where weapons need to be handled differently,
and we’ll treat them slightly differently.
“For instance, there’s no recoil on guns on PC because recoil on the
controller feels really good… With a mouse and k... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****h
发帖数: 1266 | 48 加大recoil spring应当是减轻recoil 更快瞄准,但减慢reload速度。slide backward 可能不到位，造成
退不了子弹，上不了子单。在能上子弹的情况下，recoil spring 越大越好,再加个shock buff.
slidebackward 减少了，forward的力量和行程也减少了。
减轻recoil spring 造成slide向后更快，更猛，recoil增加，容易损害frame. |
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X***y
发帖数: 3947 | 49 这个我也疑惑。我暂时是这么理解的：
recoil感觉大小和recoil本身不是一回事。通常大家都说的是枪口上跳。
扭矩计算好像应该是recoil力x力臂吧？如果看枪口上跳角度来衡量recoil感觉大小的
话，如果假设recoil造成旋转的能量（扭矩）Er一样，那么长枪力臂（Bl）比较长，旋
转角度就小了。
这还没说长枪左手靠前控制和枪托的因素呢。 |
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s*******n
发帖数: 12995 | 50 OK， 做一下简单的算术：
fact 1: .223 55gr 的 recoil energy 是 3.02， .308 150gr 的 recoil energy 是
14.61；
fact 2: Miculek 的 muzzle brake 可以减低58%的recoil;
fact 3: Limbsaver buffer pad 号称可以减低up to 70% 的 felt recoil, 我就打个
折，算40%；
fact 4: enidine hydraulic buffer 也号称dramatically 减低recoil, 但没说多少，
我就算他能减低20%吧，
那么这三样加起来：
(（14.61x(1-0.58))x(1-0.4))x(1-0.20)=2.95 < 3.02
Mission accomplished ! |
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