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Dramaer (不要问我从那里来) 于 (Fri Oct 22 12:02:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
Act 1：1-11 Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven
1In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and
to teach 2until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving
instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3After
his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
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发帖数: 6791 | 2 Acts 5：17-42 The Apostles Persecuted
17Then the high priest and all his associates, who were members of the
party of the Sadducees, were filled with jealousy. 18They arrested the
apostles and put them in the public jail. 19But during the night an angel of
the Lord opened the doors of the jail and brought them out. 20"Go, stand in
the temple courts," he said, "and tell the people the full message of this
new life."
21At daybreak they entered the temple courts, as they had been told, and
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发帖数: 1209 | 3
因为牧师们这样说的。
Harold Wallace Rosenthal: "We are amazed by the Christians' stupidity in
receiving our teachings and propagating them as their own."
Henry Ford: "The Christian cannot read his Bible except through Jewish
spectacles, and, therefore, reads it wrong."
http://www.rense.com/general66/rosen.htm
Will Newman asserts:
The Talmud can never be a source of historic and homiletic keys to
understanding our Messiah because this is what the Talmud says about Christ
and non-Jews:
"Jesus is in hell, b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 4 你的疑问还是建立在你的猜想之上得，耶稣如何复活，或是耶稣复活后是什么状态，这
个石头，白布如何处理等等，都是神的意志，或者也许不是。我们没必要去猜想这些细
节。
如果你真的感兴趣可以在NETbible上看到各种解释。
https://lumina.bible.org/bible/Matthew+28
点右边Constable's Notes。
也可以参考其它福音书的说明。
B. The King’s resurrection ch. 28
The resurrection is central to Christian theology (cf. 1 Cor. 15:12-19).
However the Gospel evangelists did not deal with the theological
implications of the resurrection but simply recorded the facts. The Apostle
Paul wrote much to help us appreciate the significance of this g... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 5 Acts 4:1-22 Peter and John Before the Sanhedrin
1The priests and the captain of the temple guard and the Sadducees came up
to Peter and John while they were speaking to the people. 2They were greatly
disturbed because the apostles were teaching the people and proclaiming in
Jesus the resurrection of the dead. 3They seized Peter and John, and because
it was evening, they put them in jail until the next day. 4But many who
heard the message believed, and the number of men grew to about five
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发帖数: 6791 | 6 acts 6:8-15 Stephen Seized
8Now Stephen, a man full of God's grace and power, did great wonders and
miraculous signs among the people. 9Opposition arose, however, from members
of the Synagogue of the Freedmen (as it was called)—Jews of Cyrene and
Alexandria as well as the provinces of Cilicia and Asia. These men began to
argue with Stephen, 10but they could not stand up against his wisdom or the
Spirit by whom he spoke.
11Then they secretly persuaded some men to say, "We have heard Stephen
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发帖数: 6791 | 7 acts 22:30 Before the Sanhedrin
30The next day, since the commander wanted to find out exactly why Paul was
being accused by the Jews, he released him and ordered the chief priests and
all the Sanhedrin to assemble. Then he brought Paul and had him stand
before them.
评论：罗马军队的指挥官为了弄清保罗被犹太人指控的原因，就让犹太高级别祭祀召开
犹太公会。
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发帖数: 6791 | 8 Acts 23:1-11
1Paul looked straight at the Sanhedrin and said, “My brothers, I have
fulfilled my duty to God in all good conscience to this day.” 2At this the
high priest Ananias ordered those standing near Paul to strike him on the
mouth. 3Then Paul said to him, “God will strike you, you whitewashed wall!
You sit there to judge me according to the law, yet you yourself violate the
law by commanding that I be struck!”
4Those who were standing near Paul said, “You dare to insult God’s high
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发帖数: 6791 | 9 Acts 23:12-22 The Plot to Kill Paul
12The next morning the Jews formed a conspiracy and bound themselves with an
oath not to eat or drink until they had killed Paul. 13More than forty men
were involved in this plot. 14They went to the chief priests and elders and
said, “We have taken a solemn oath not to eat anything until we have killed
Paul. 15Now then, you and the Sanhedrin petition the commander to bring him
before you on the pretext of wanting more accurate information about his
case. We ar... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1203 | 10 1A．耶稣是历史上出现过的一个人
最近我参加在美国中西部一间大学学生联会主办的辩论会，我的对手是一位纽约的
众议院候选人。在她的开场白中，她这样说：“今天历史家们已经承认，耶稣并非历史
人物……。”我简直不敢相信自己的耳朵！（但我也很感谢她会这么说，因为当时在场
的二千五百位学生立刻就知道她事先未对历史进行研究。）正巧我手边有以下的历史资
料，有助于我用来证明耶稣确实在历史上存在过。事实上宣传耶稣是神话故事人物的，
并不单是历史家而已（其中还有几位是经济学家！）
F.F.布如斯（F.F.Bruce）是英国曼彻斯特大学赖兰荣誉教席的教授（Rylands
Professor），也是圣经批判与诠释学的权威，他说得很对：
“有些作家喜欢把基督的存在当作神话人物看待，但他们以历史证据为背景的话，
是不会这样认为的。基督的历史性与凯撒大帝的历史性，在未存偏见的历史家们看来都
是一样可以证实的。因此很少有历史学家会宣传耶稣是神话人物的。”2/119
贝兹（Otto Betz）在其《认识基督》（What Do We Know About Jesus）一书中曾
这样下过结论说：“没有一个严谨的学者会肯定... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 655 | 11 “ 11C.犹太他勒目（The Jewish Talmads）
在犹太他勒目的《耶稣家谱》（Tol'doth Yeshu）耶稣被称为潘特罗之子（Ben
Pandera）。
巴比伦犹太他勒目中亦记道：“………在逾越节的前夕，他们把他挂在十架上。”
犹太他勒目中把耶稣称为“潘特罗之子”（Ben Pandera或Ben Panttere）及“潘
特罗之子耶稣”（Jeshu Ben Pandera）。许多学者都认为潘特罗（Pandera）这个字是
将希腊文童贞女Parthenos一字曲解而来，等于称耶稣是“童贞女子”。一位犹太人克
劳斯诺(Joseph Klausner)说：“耶稣是私生子一事的说法在当时犹太人当中是很普遍
的……”
犹太他勒目中之《智者之书》(Baraila)，其中评语极具历史价值：
“逾越节的前夕，他们把拿撒勒的耶稣(Jeshu)挂在木头上。在此之前四十天，传
令官就宣布拿撒勒人耶稣将被乱石击死的消息，因他广施巫术，以欺骗手腕引诱以色列
人误入歧途。凡知任何有关此人之事的学者均可前来为他辩护，但是他们当时找不到任
何人能为他争辩，于是在逾越节的前夕就把他钉在十字架上了。”（... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2152 | 12 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: erkuai (三天不上bbs,赶得上刘少奇), 信区: Military
标 题: On the Jews and Their Lies, 1543
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 12 23:21:23 2011, 美东)
by Martin Luther (1483-1546)
Translated by Martin H. Bertram
copyright © 1971 Fortress Press & Augsburg Fortress - On the Jews and
Their Lies is from Luther’s Works Volume 47. Augsburg Fortress is the
publishing ministry of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Funded through sales revenue, Augsburg Fortress is called to provide
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发帖数: 12188 | 13 五四有个说法，中华文明缺少两个关键因素：德先生和赛先生，也就是民主与科学。基
本还是靠谱的。
以前我说过，推开科学之门是基督教的有意或者无意的结果。
不但如此，现代民主社会，也是基督教会的产物。
提到民主，大家都想到古希腊的民主城邦和公民大会，后来罗马的代议制（议员，人民
代表，元老院，议员）。其实还有古犹太人的Sanhedrin。但是这些，都是古典世界的
，都是经不起时间的检验，在日尔曼，维京，阿拉伯，突厥的武力面前，都灰飞烟灭了
。就算这些是民主的火种，也是经过教会才保留下来，传到中世纪后期，终于在合适的
时期，在新的时代，又成长壮大了。
请注意：
教会的组织一开始就具有民主的种子。最早，耶稣死后，犹大滚蛋后，代替他的使徒就
是投票出来的。后来主教到教皇必须选举或者推举，即使暗箱操作也是形式民主的。长
老，教友，司铎等一套体系就是一种民主制度。后来的新教更加民主了。长老会，由长
老集体领导，长老也是选举出来。
教会的存在，使得民主一直是一种可能，一个选择，一个option。
另外，基督教不歧视和仇视任何人。基督教一开始就废掉了犹太教的全部禁忌，饮食，
安息日，节日等等。使徒行传里面... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2152 | 14 by Martin Luther (1483-1546)
Translated by Martin H. Bertram
copyright © 1971 Fortress Press & Augsburg Fortress - On the Jews and
Their Lies is from Luther’s Works Volume 47. Augsburg Fortress is the
publishing ministry of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Funded through sales revenue, Augsburg Fortress is called to provide
products and services that communicate the Gospel, enhance faith, and
enrich the life of the Christian community from a Lutheran perspective.
Part I
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发帖数: 18007 | 15 http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-free-4110723-1.shtml
犹太文献记载耶稣·本·潘得拉是耶稣的全名，二世纪希腊哲学家Celsus就认为玛
利亚是被约瑟·本·潘得拉强奸的。
根据犹太文献《耶稣一生》（Toledot Yeshu）的记载，有一个叫做耶书·本·潘
得拉可能就是耶稣，这本书记述说，这个人是玛利亚和罗马士兵约瑟·本·潘得拉（
Joseph ben Pantera）的私生子。不过这个说法有较大争议。
提庇留·朱利亚斯·阿布德斯·潘得拉（拉丁语：Tiberius Iulius Abdes
Pantera，约前22年－约40年），英文译为约瑟·本·潘得拉（英语：Joseph ben
Pantera），一名罗马弓箭手士兵，1859年在德国发现他的墓碑。
他之所以出名是因为有学者认为[1]他就是西元二世纪希腊哲学家塞尔苏斯(Celsus
)笔下的罗马士兵潘得拉，也就是耶书·本·潘得拉（或称耶稣·本·潘得拉，Yeshu
Ben Pandera, Jesus ben Pandera）的父亲。在塞尔苏斯的记述中，约瑟·本·潘得拉
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发帖数: 18007 | 16 约瑟·本·潘得拉及耶稣一生
犹太文献记载耶稣·本·潘得拉是耶稣的全名，二世纪希腊哲学家Celsus就认为玛
利亚是被约瑟·本·潘得拉强奸的。
根据犹太文献《耶稣一生》（Toledot Yeshu）的记载，有一个叫做耶书·本·潘
得拉可能就是耶稣，这本书记述说，这个人是玛利亚和罗马士兵约瑟·本·潘得拉（
Joseph ben Pantera）的私生子。不过这个说法有较大争议。
提庇留·朱利亚斯·阿布德斯·潘得拉（拉丁语：Tiberius Iulius Abdes
Pantera，约前22年－约40年），英文译为约瑟·本·潘得拉（英语：Joseph ben
Pantera），一名罗马弓箭手士兵，1859年在德国发现他的墓碑。
他之所以出名是因为有学者认为[1]他就是西元二世纪希腊哲学家塞尔苏斯(Celsus
)笔下的罗马士兵潘得拉，也就是耶书·本·潘得拉（或称耶稣·本·潘得拉，Yeshu
Ben Pandera, Jesus ben Pandera）的父亲。在塞尔苏斯的记述中，约瑟·本·潘得拉
是耶稣的父亲，耶稣·本·潘得拉是耶稣的一个全名。这个记述和犹太文献是一致的。
[2]
1、生平
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发帖数: 12188 | 17 谈不上排斥。
实际上，犹太人和犹太教在罗马帝国有特殊优待。因为罗马攻打埃及的托勒密帝国的时
候，三角洲的犹太人里应外合了。还自发建立了维持会。帮助罗马镇压当地人的反抗。
希律王带人给罗马带路，打进耶路撒冷（当时在安息的统治下）。犹太人纷纷响应，欢
迎王师。
所以罗马封希律为王，又给犹太人极多的自治权，犹太最高評議会（Sanhedrin）可以
用犹太律法审判犹太人，且对犹太人具有最高终审权（相当于今天给穆斯林以施行沙里
亚法的权利，且是终审权）。所以按照新约说的，犹太人定耶稣死罪，比拉多没有能力
改变。这些权利是其它民族都没有的。犹太人在整个罗马也具有优待。所以犹太人到处
都是。
很多史书都说，犹太人在罗马世界的广泛分布，给后来的基督教传播带来了极大方便。
比如保罗走到哪里，都是先找到当地犹太会堂，在那里宣讲，也住在那里。犹太人到处
都是，也带来了大量的God-fearers，这些gentiles具有犹太一神教的一些基本概念，
心向往之，却又不是犹太人，正好成为基督教最好的粮草。这也是无心插柳。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 18 彼拉多在清洗他的手
我们都知道耶稣（Jesus）为了世人得救，被钉死在十字架上。然而又有多少人知道判
耶稣死刑的人是谁，他最后又得到什么样的报应呢？那么我今天就给大家讲一讲那人的
故事。
判耶稣死刑的人是本丢‧彼拉多（Pontius Pilate又译为般雀‧比拉多），
他于西元26至36年间担任罗马帝国派驻犹太行省的总督。总督拥有指挥军队，管理财政
，铸制通行全省的铜币，征税，审断案件掌管生死等大权。同时罗马帝国为了方便在犹
太地区的统治，还设立了一个分封王希律。而在犹太民众中，犹太教由于被全民所信仰
，也有很大的势力。
当时耶稣的信徒越来越多，引起了犹太教祭司和长老们的妒嫉与怨恨，商议着一定要杀
害耶稣，不然就没人再相信他们，供养他们了。于是他们收买了叛徒犹大，抓捕了耶稣
，将耶稣捆绑到大祭司那里，由祭司、长老和文士们捏造了伪证，并对耶稣进行了非法
审判和殴打。
但是由于在罗马人统治下，犹太教最高评议会（Sanhedrin）没有执行死刑的权利，所
以便把耶稣捆绑到了罗马总督的衙门里，交给了彼拉多审判，他们诬告耶稣煽动民众叛
国，反对向罗马皇帝缴税，希望彼拉多能... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3758 | 19 http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/1932762/jewish/Gr
By Rabbi Jonathan Sacks
There is a fascinating detail in the passage about the king in this week’s
parsha. The text says that “When he takes the throne of his kingdom, he
must write for himself a copy of this Torah on a scroll before the levitical
priests.”1 He must “read it all the days of his life” so that he will be
G‑d-fearing and never break Torah law. But there is another reason
also: so that he will “not begin to feel s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 81 | 20 耶稣是历史上的真实人物
我们在前章《两约之间的犹太民族》一文中提到，仅四百多年间，在巴勒斯坦的犹太地
，孕育了世界上两大宗教──犹太教和基督教。犹太教充其量不过是一个民族的宗教，
而基督教却是个普世的信仰。基督徒，包括天主教徒，占今日全世界人口的三分之一。
耶稣，这位旋乾转坤，影响西方文化，带动世界文明至钜的宗教领袖，除了新约全书以
外，为何没有当时任何记载 事迹的文字材料保存下来呢？
耶稣的一生在尘世间没有留下什麽物质痕迹。 既无凯旋征讨的纪念碑，也无皇宫神庙
可提供考古研究。第一世纪的巴勒斯坦，大众传播远不及今天这样普遍。百姓认字的不
多，会书写的更少。无论芦苇草纸或羊皮，都非常昂贵。一般人也就没有闲钱闲情来出
版一些马路消息。像目前书报摊贩卖的花边新闻小报（Tabloid），如国家询问报（The
National Enquirer）、每日星报（Daily Stars）等等，在耶稣那时代简直是匪夷所
思。也因此，唯有真实可靠的历史古籍，才值得代代相承地抄誊流传下来。
至於治理巴勒斯坦的罗马人呢？他们远在天边，原就对犹太地的事物兴趣泛泛，不会有
人去注意在犹太地一个名不经传的小民，更... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 21 Acts 7：1-53 Stephen's Speech to the Sanhedrin
1Then the high priest asked him, "Are these charges true?"
2To this he replied: "Brothers and fathers, listen to me! The God of glory
appeared to our father Abraham while he was still in Mesopotamia, before he
lived in Haran. 3'Leave your country and your people,' God said, 'and go to
the land I will show you.'[a]
4"So he left the land of the Chaldeans and settled in Haran. After the
death of his father, God sent him to this land where you are now li... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 22 Acts 23:23-35 Paul Transferred to Caesarea
23Then he called two of his centurions and ordered them, “Get ready a
detachment of two hundred soldiers, seventy horsemen and two hundred
spearmenb to go to Caesarea at nine tonight. 24Provide mounts for Paul so
that he may be taken safely to Governor Felix.”
25He wrote a letter as follows:
26Claudius Lysias,
To His Excellency, Governor Felix:
Greetings.
27This man was seized by the Jews and they were about to kill him, but I
came with my troops and re... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6791 | 23 Acts 24 The Trial Before Felix
1Five days later the high priest Ananias went down to Caesarea with some of
the elders and a lawyer named Tertullus, and they brought their charges
against Paul before the governor. 2When Paul was called in, Tertullus
presented his case before Felix: “We have enjoyed a long period of peace
under you, and your foresight has brought about reforms in this nation.
3Everywhere and in every way, most excellent Felix, we acknowledge this with
profound gratitude. 4But in o... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 24 第四课
耶稣基督
━━荣耀的光辉、本体的真象
一、序言
希伯来书作者说：“神既在古时借着众先知，多次多方的晓谕列祖，就在这末世借着他
儿子晓谕我们……，他是神荣耀所发的光辉，是神本体的真象”（1:1-3），有史以来，
再没有比这句话形容耶稣基督的本相更为透彻。
基督教信仰与其它宗教有别，基督是“人”的宗教，离开了“人”，基督教信仰便荡然
无存，这个“人”就是耶稣基督，诚如英国名神学家W. G. H. Thomas言：“基督教就是
基督”〔注1〕，而这个人特殊之处乃是他具备两种属性，一是神性，一是人性，这种神
人二性合在一身，在世上史无前例，亦缺后来之辈，故基督教正是神启导世人的宗教。
二、耶稣基督的史实
耶稣基督是一个历史人物，此事千真万确，无庸置疑，因记载他的史实之书为数不少，
兹分类如下：
A.新约书卷（主后45-95）
1.作者━━共有八至九人，马太、马可、路加、约翰、保罗、彼得、犹大、雅各与希伯
来书的作者，他们全是当代的历史家，半数以上是目击者，他们的记录按现代历史学鉴
别真史与稗史之原则衡量，确是真实历史之文件。
2.文件━━共有二十七本，统称“新约全书”，虽然今日这二十七... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38403 | 25 。。们
Before the Common Era
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Simon of Peraea (c. 4 BCE), a former slave of Herod the Great, who
rebelled and was killed by the Romans.
Athronges (c. 4-2? BCE), a shepherd turned rebel leader of a rebellion
with his four brothers against Herod Archelaus and the Romans after
proclaiming himself the Messiah. He and his brothers were eventually
defeated.
1st century
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Jesus (ca. 4 BCE - 30 CE), in Galilee and the Roman province of Judea.
Jews who believed him to be the... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38600 | 26 2 The Passion of Christ
（Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John）
26 Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed
him over to be crucified.
15 Wanting to satisfy the crowd, Pilate released Barabbas to them. He had
Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.
25 He released the man who had been thrown into prison for insurrection and
murder, the one they asked for, and surrendered Jesus to their will.
1 Then Pilate took Jesus and had him flogged.
The Passion comprises all ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 81 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: someinfo1 (someinfo), 信区: Belief
标 题: 耶稣是历史上的真实人物
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 21 11:24:53 2012, 美东)
耶稣是历史上的真实人物
我们在前章《两约之间的犹太民族》一文中提到，仅四百多年间，在巴勒斯坦的犹太地
，孕育了世界上两大宗教──犹太教和基督教。犹太教充其量不过是一个民族的宗教，
而基督教却是个普世的信仰。基督徒，包括天主教徒，占今日全世界人口的三分之一。
耶稣，这位旋乾转坤，影响西方文化，带动世界文明至钜的宗教领袖，除了新约全书以
外，为何没有当时任何记载 事迹的文字材料保存下来呢？
耶稣的一生在尘世间没有留下什麽物质痕迹。 既无凯旋征讨的纪念碑，也无皇宫神庙
可提供考古研究。第一世纪的巴勒斯坦，大众传播远不及今天这样普遍。百姓认字的不
多，会书写的更少。无论芦苇草纸或羊皮，都非常昂贵。一般人也就没有闲钱闲情来出
版一些马路消息。像目前书报摊贩卖的花边新闻小报（Tabloid），如国家询问报（The
National Enquirer）、... 阅读全帖 |
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