h******n 发帖数: 3599 | 1 Craiglist 上面明文建议你们不要接受 cashier order money order 你们还给楼主出
馊主意?
https://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
Avoiding Scams
Deal locally, face-to-face —follow this one rule and avoid 99% of scam
attempts.
Do not extend payment to anyone you have not met in person.
Beware offers involving shipping - deal with locals you can meet in person.
Never wire funds (e.g. Western Union) - anyone who asks you to is a scammer.
Don't accept cashier/certified checks or money orders - banks cash fakes,
then hold you re... 阅读全帖 |
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d********n 发帖数: 321 | 2 怎么感觉都是SCAM啊。SCAM的几个要素,
1. 有故事,有情节。
2. 没电话,没真相
3. 英国,海外,巨多骗子。
4. 和MONEY GRAM沾边的SCAM也巨多。
仅供参考。 |
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D*****D 发帖数: 472 | 3 about > scams
Personal Safety Tips craigslist help forum
请楼主给大家翻译一遍
http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
You can sidestep would-be scammers by following these common-sense rules:
* DEAL LOCALLY WITH FOLKS YOU CAN MEET IN PERSON - follow this one
simple rule and you will avoid 99% of the scam attempts on craigslist.
* NEVER WIRE FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM or any other wire
service - anyone who asks you to do so is a scammer.
* FAKE CASHIER CHECKS & MONEY ORDERS ARE COMM |
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z**r 发帖数: 365 | 4 http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/12/24/oregon-police-bust-cr
敢用来历不明的GC去店里搬iPhone,胆子真大
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A man in Tigard, Ore., was spotted at the Washington Square mall on Dec. 4
suspiciously buying numerous iPhones with a stack of gift cards, according
to the Portland Tribune. That led investigators to follow him to his car,
where they found Apple Store shopping bags filled with more than 470 iPhones
worth $290,000, and Apple gift cards totaling more than $585,000.
The man followed by police, along w... 阅读全帖 |
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t***y 发帖数: 741 | 5 这个就是scam. 难道scam不就是骗别人的钱吗?
摆脱,你们这些MLM的托,就不要再来变相放毒了。
Each and every MLM is a scam. Period!
Now, stop debating. Period!
传销当然 |
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W****W 发帖数: 508 | 6 yes, it's a scam.
but unlike others,it may not be a identity theft scam.
这个很有可能是靠refer fee来scam的,就是你每填一份credit report,对方就拿一份
refer fee.房子是不存在的。只不过对方靠这个挣钱。
如果你不放心,可以去transunion上面注册,然后让他们所定你的credit report,不允许
任何人查。这个服务大概15块一个月的样子,而且可以拿到所有三家的credit score. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 7 I just figured from the business point of view that they wouldn't
want to go the con-artist way, since if they depend on scamming
to earn money, they won't be able to sustain their business.
It's true that there is a certain level of scamming involved, as
one can see from how hard they do 传销。But still, if their product
is a complete scam, they will run out of customers in short time.
There are only 100 million families out there in USA.
's |
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z****l 发帖数: 5282 | 8 【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
【 原文由 breeze 所发表 】
自己网上去google 吧,unfranchise scam. 其实简单办法,if anything
sounds too good to be true, it probably is. get their company's
name (WFG, WMA, Primerica, Market America) go online and google
"company_name scam"
the results will speak for themselves
disclaimer: 老美有个关于MLM的总结: if you are more
interested in selling membership than selling the product, then
it's probably a scam. not all MLMs are bad, at least not all
of them started bad, but it's like saying not all chi |
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f******k 发帖数: 856 | 9 来美国以后,上过几次当,还好我反应和补救及时,所以没有什么严重的经济损失,但
仍有不少人却已经蒙受了经济损失还没有办法挽救,只能自吞苦水。在此告诉大家几点
我的心得。
美国的coupon,sale以及各种各样的rebate的确是让人高兴,但是也请大家注意莫要贪
图小利而落入骗子的圈套,美国的骗子太多太多了,而且手段层出不穷,防不胜防。以
后大家遇到任何貌似很大的便宜,尤其来自于是不知名的公司或团体,一定要提高警惕
,首先就是通过internet来初步排查是scam的可能性,比如对方提供的任何信息例如电
话号码,地址,公司名称等等,用google来搜索这些信息加上scam关键字,还有一些很
好的网址可以去检测是否有人已经举报过这些公司或者团体,比如http://www.ripoffreport.com
如果有不认识的电话solicitation,一概坚决拒绝。如果初步确认不像是scam的话,想
要继续与对方交谈,也请务必听清对方的每一句话,尤其是当对方刻意加快语速时,更
要留神,不明白可以反复让对方重复或放慢语速,别觉得不好意思,谁都不认识谁。在
没有听清对方所说的内容或者问题之前,不要 |
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fredrick (忽悠儿@Chicago) 于 (Thu Mar 29 02:31:02 2007) 提到:
来美国以后,上过几次当,还好我反应和补救及时,所以没有什么严重的经济损失,但
仍有不少人却已经蒙受了经济损失还没有办法挽救,只能自吞苦水。在此告诉大家几点
我的心得。
美国的coupon,sale以及各种各样的rebate的确是让人高兴,但是也请大家注意莫要贪
图小利而落入骗子的圈套,美国的骗子太多太多了,而且手段层出不穷,防不胜防。以
后大家遇到任何貌似很大的便宜,尤其来自于是不知名的公司或团体,一定要提高警惕
,首先就是通过internet来初步排查是scam的可能性,比如对方提供的任何信息例如电
话号码,地址,公司名称等等,用google来搜索这些信息加上scam关键字,还有一些很
好的网址可以去检测是否有人已经举报过这些公司或者团体,比如http://www.ripoffreport.com
如果有不认识的电话solicitation,一概坚决拒绝。如果初步确认不像是scam的话 |
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s*********t 发帖数: 16647 | 11 明白了,不过即便技术上可行,但是动机呢?
对于普通prepaid gift card,上次有大牛在某贴里说过那些scam的人拿个小仪器偷偷
把卡号扫入软件内,等有人买了激活后,这些人第一时间就得到notification就去冲,
这可以理解
但是香草这种要冲入的卡,那些人挖掉一位数字以外除了损人之外,我还是想不明白如
何获利。特别香草是充值卡,要冲入bb,即便这些人用假ssn搞了n多bb,还是很容易被
track down,一旦买家报告incomm,立马封卡(如果scammer还没冲),或者freeze
scammer的bb卡,scammer根本没有时间套现。这点和前面所说普通prepaid gift card
完全不同,那些prepaid gc卡让scammer是可以通过直接买大量物品甚至money order直
接套现的。
退一万步来说,即便scammer有渠道能够短时间内套现,要利用真正买卡的买家充值前
的时间差,可这挖掉一位数字又有什么意义呢?
看过听过很多种诈骗scam后,居然一直想不透这种scam白香草挖号的意义何在
我看了ft,也还是不太明白,我倒是觉得有种可能就是有一批... 阅读全帖 |
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z****l 发帖数: 5282 | 12 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
newjersey (NJ furniture dealer) 于 (Mon Sep 9 17:11:24 2013, 美东) 提到:
没有正经职业,靠MONEY版捡钱为生。
年过40而不立,心里真是很空。
生活在POINTS的虚拟空间,如同隔绝于尘世。
没有朋友,只有键盘远处,天天要涨价的AIRLINES,日日要点数贬值的旅馆.
这样 的生活没有依托, 真的很空呐。
除了买香草就是卖点数,生活在算计中太不轻松。日日忙碌过15个钟,挣得却过不了
码工,有了上顿不知道下顿,生活悬浮在太空
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Sai (sai) 于 (Mon Sep 9 17:16:05 2013, 美东) 提到:
我想买香草 根本没地方能买。。。
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jiazi (Light be with you.) 于 (Mon Sep 9 17:17:03 2013... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n 发帖数: 8363 | 13
投票 to raise debt ceiling is exactly a 封建 scam in 民主 disguise.
Imagine two guys: They'd love to spend beyond their means but do not
wanna leave a pile of debt to their own kids so they agree to behave.
One day they figure out a "genius" plan to over-spend: "While I do not
wanna steal my kids' money I have no problem stealing from your kids."
"Same here. I'd like to rob your kids if I can get away w/ it."
So they come up w/ this "take off pants to fart" 投票: Do you love to
spend someone else' mon... 阅读全帖 |
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D******e 发帖数: 11265 | 14 ready to short another 1000
hole grassy muddy horse |
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N*****d 发帖数: 9872 | 15 http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/092214/how-selec
Concern areas for trading/investing in penny stocks:
Lacking the stringent regulatory requirements, Penny stocks may not be
listed on national exchanges – a clear indication of the high risks
associated with penny stocks.
Trading occurs on smaller exchanges (like OTCBB and Pink Sheets) which may
not have requirements of returns filing and open information sharing,
keeping investors unaware of the company’s business and prospects
Sho... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********2 发帖数: 85 | 16 Scam, your stock won't able to sell due to no volume , many people already
experience this type of scam before , and lost million , you only lost $30k
! Cong !
My former boss lost $1m on this type of scam, nm, I know so well about it !
In USA otc market , a lot of junk , value at 50c to 5buck, each day volume
either 100shares or 0, it is them ! |
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w**u 发帖数: 1831 | 17 提醒一下lz,最近我们学校发了email通知,说有冒充USCIS的骗子电话,骗取个人信息
和钱财的,希望lz的不是啊!
具体email信息如下:
Dear Stakeholder,
In recent weeks, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) learned
of a new telephone scam targeting USCIS applicants and petitioners. Scammers
are using a technique called “Caller ID spoofing” to display a misleading
or inaccurate phone number in a recipient’s Caller ID. The scammer poses
as a USCIS official and requests personal information (such as Social
Security number, passport number, or A-n... 阅读全帖 |
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a****e 发帖数: 9589 | 18 以下为转贴:
早上一大早太太收到电话,678-980-5206, 声称是IRS美国联邦税赋局的,有紧急的税
务问题需要回复,对方让打530-208-0695号码,找John Anderson. 电话过去,对方说
我们欠IRS$7998税,并且说IRS已经启动法律程序,责令我们必须在9:00AM之前付款,
否则,我们所有的银行账户将被冻结,开车驾照将被吊销,警察会来家里逮捕我们。对
方电话是个印度口音,口气非常强硬, 责成我们必须马上去乌尔马办理电汇手续并要
求马上去,到那里后再打电话告知汇款地址帐号等。 太太说没有那么多现钱,对方问
有多少,答大概2000多,对方说先汇2000他就可以暂停以上的法律执行并安排分期付款
剩余的钱。。。。。电话吵醒了我,我觉得很奇怪,咱也不欠IRS税啊。我家的税很简
单,就俩打工族的工资,而且每年都是H&R Block报的,怎么会欠税呢。咱也没有收到
IRS任何的书面信件说有税的问题啊。于是,上网一查,果然,Scam, 骗局!
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-530-208-0695
I just got a call f... 阅读全帖 |
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i****a 发帖数: 36252 | 19 any email with overly and unnecessary details on personal life is a scam
any dealing with people or merchandise you cannot meet or see is a scam
any offer to send you a over-asking-price check and ask you to refund is a
scam
and i |
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r***r 发帖数: 414 | 20 craigslist 上骗子非常多。 尤其用paypal交易的scam最普遍了。 大家很警惕再正常
不过了。 更何况是这么新的id,上站两次就一个帖子。
这是craigslist上的官方警告,那老太太坚持一手交钱一手交货应该就是因为看了这个:
Avoiding Scams
Deal locally, face-to-face —follow this one rule and avoid 99% of scam
attempts.
Do not extend payment to anyone you have not met in person.
Beware offers involving shipping - deal with locals you can meet in person.
Never wire funds (e.g. Western Union) - anyone who asks you to is a scammer.
Don't accept cashier/certified checks or money orders - banks cash f... 阅读全帖 |
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YaTou22 (丫头妹妹) 于 (Wed Nov 23 12:11:03 2011, 美东) 提到:
Conedison现在在switch一部分Elmhurst的customer的energy provider.新的provider
是independent energy. 如果switch的话,电费从以前的10.1cents 降到9 cents.最主
要的是年底有$200的cash back.
想switch的,问问conedison吧。多了200块钱过新年呢!
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auo (aeiou) 于 (Wed Nov 23 12:19:27 2011, 美东) 提到:
Scam.. 前几个月会有 discount, 后面的。。呵呵。。。
想 cancel? 一年合同的。。那时候..Oh...S..
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b********k 发帖数: 40 | 22 曝光无良建筑工Cyrell Donnell Dietz JR, 这是一个长期系列诈骗者。喜欢说自己信
教,去教会,怕上帝惩罚。其实是毒蛇,满嘴谎言,没有一句真话。
他是地产经纪Yintian "Joe" Zhou的租户兼帮手,由于他推荐我放松警惕,最后被骗。
被骗后我做此人调查,发现他的执照和公司其实很早就由于诈骗被州政府吊销了,而且
政府法院和法律系统正在对他调查。检查他的历史,我还不算被骗最多的,网上显示很
多人被他骗,其中很多中国人。
希望大家不要如同我一样犯错误被骗。认识他知道他底细或被他骗过的,欢迎曝光,欢
迎和我站内联系或电话FIVE-O-3-4O-SIX-EIGHT-OO-ONE。我们可以合作采取法律手段讨
回公道。多人指正可以加速他的恶意欺诈的犯罪调查。
Name: Cyrell Donnell Dietz JR.
Address: 2800 SW 75th Ave, Hillsboro OR 97123
Phone#: (503) 406-5184
Business name: Dietz Construction LLC
License #: 199466
Stat... 阅读全帖 |
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w******y 发帖数: 8040 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Biology 讨论区 】
发信人: wsbioguy (postdog), 信区: Biology
标 题: 看看有些医生是怎么吸血的吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Feb 17 23:14:03 2011, 美东)
111 charged in Medicare scams worth $225 million
MIAMI – Federal authorities charged more than 100 doctors, nurses and
physical therapists in nine cities with Medicare fraud Thursday, part of a
massive nationwide bust that snared more suspects than any other in history.
More than 700 law enforcement agents fanned out to arrest dozens of people
accused of illegally billin... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******4 发帖数: 884 | 24 http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Con-Artist-or-Clever-Old-L
总结一下就是旧金山市里老广东移民SU WAN仗着自己有两套apt building从华人地产杂
志里面找卖方agent
假装说要他们represent她卖房子。见面时候约卖房agent在高级餐厅吃饭,当然吃完是
agent买单。还有叫agent带她去看
牙医,买东西,从日常用品到lv包包,假装说没有带钱包叫agent先付钱。。。。就是
占便宜呗。听说已经这样做了二十年了。。。。
“It’s cold hearted.”
“She’s just a scam artist.”
“I was mad as hell.”
“It’s been happening over and over.”
“I want her to pay for what she did to all of us.”
These are the unexpected reactions to someone you could easily mistake for a
sweet Chin... 阅读全帖 |
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z****n 发帖数: 1627 | 27
也有不死心眼的,比如这个:
Quote from Fatawallet Killer :
A 'heads up' for those men who are considering heading to home depot. Lots
of scams out there, and the following one caught me by surprise:
Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping.
Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't
be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends.
Here's how the scam works: Two seriously good-looking 20-21 year-old girls
come over to your c |
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k***r 发帖数: 4260 | 28 scam seller也想拿到钱吧,在被证明是scam之前
仍然appears to be legit啊,而证明是scam的方法
是收钱后不ship |
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k****t 发帖数: 12697 | 29 吃饱了. 本来是人SCAM, 这变成你SCAM (你还没有人SCAM 的HARD EVIDENCE) |
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h*******e 发帖数: 8370 | 30 你抢版友的deal
这是一
你从来只吃包子,不发包子
这是二
你抢了deal跑去tag,自己把帖子顶到前面,怪谁
这是三(这个我今天下午和你说了)
你自己没几个fb,还要别人先货后款,搞到最后还只愿意付$100 deposit,还是双保险
的paypal +cc都怕得这么厉害
这是四
我觉得吧。
本来不是scam,被你搞成scam了。外加RP值本来就不够……
paypal开case再缓缓吧。别着急。
另外不必给人neg了。如果真的 是scam,那个真付钱的会neg的。不用你来搞。你这个搞了人家说不定给你来个retaliate fb,不划算的。 |
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r*********5 发帖数: 2838 | 31 囧死,anyway,sd上说是scam的居多,怕scam的pass就好
我在ebay上买这种小额scam基本每次都是东西直接被一堆flag掉,钱直接回来
连dispute都不用。。。。 |
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 32 Wedding Photog Scammed Couples Out of $140K, Faces 70 Felony Charges
blob:http%3A//petapixel.com/bf8da093-4729-4925-b22e-b1e59136390f
Wedding photography can be a rough business. And although the photographers
have plenty to worry about (i.e. irate ministers and getting your gear
stolen), clients would do well to be careful too, lest they get duped by con
artists like New Jersey’s Michael De Rubeis.
According to CBS New York, De Rubeis, who also worked under the alias
Michael Distasio, is accuse... 阅读全帖 |
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l**s 发帖数: 20567 | 33 http://www.ottawachinesenet.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=66
本帖最后由 参你一本 于 2014-5-12 15:52 编辑
Overview
a)The intended beneficiary’s financial situation does not match
information provided by the fundraising committee in its public appeal for
donations, i.e., the intended beneficiary’s financial situation does not
justify the need for A public donation campaign. In order to achieve what
the fundraisers INTENDED to achieve (i.e., scamming a large sum of money out
of the public who don’t know the... 阅读全帖 |
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l*r 发帖数: 79569 | 34 不用忙活了,这100%是scam,而且是很老的scam了
scam这种事听白菜的没错 |
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w******y 发帖数: 8040 | 35 111 charged in Medicare scams worth $225 million
MIAMI – Federal authorities charged more than 100 doctors, nurses and
physical therapists in nine cities with Medicare fraud Thursday, part of a
massive nationwide bust that snared more suspects than any other in history.
More than 700 law enforcement agents fanned out to arrest dozens of people
accused of illegally billing Medicare more than $225 million. The arrests
are the latest in a string of major busts in the past two years as
authorities h... 阅读全帖 |
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c****p 发帖数: 6474 | 36 这么多scam的帖子,查查都是从哪些IP登录的,
然后把IP禁掉不行么……
我看我版上常见的几个scam IP的头一个IP段:108,216,24,74。
麻烦站务统计一下,看看都是哪些IP总在发这些东西,
然后严禁从这些IP登录不就得了么?
再狠一点,禁止从穿梭IP注册新ID。
省得一帮版主加站务光为了删和封scam就忙得不可开交…… |
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c****p 发帖数: 6474 | 37 这么多scam的帖子,查查都是从哪些IP登录的,
然后把IP禁掉不行么……
我看我版上常见的几个scam IP的头一个IP段:108,216,24,74。
麻烦站务统计一下,看看都是哪些IP总在发这些东西,
然后严禁从这些IP登录不就得了么?
再狠一点,禁止从穿梭IP注册新ID。
省得一帮版主加站务光为了删和封scam就忙得不可开交…… |
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w*********s 发帖数: 2136 | 38 Jeffry John Aufderheide
vactruth.com
05/25/2010
http://vactruth.com/2010/05/25/vaccines-rockefeller-social-control/
PART I.
History books proclaim with absolute certainty that the pinnacle of public
health is defined by the polio vaccine program. Disease finally conquered by
science. The polio effort was a benchmark for the public to mentally accept
the concept “shots prevent disease.” However, hidden to most Americans
was an elaborate Public Relations scheme being carefully applied by
Rockefell... 阅读全帖 |
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c**********9 发帖数: 77 | 39 Avoiding stomach upsets is a daily battle – washing hands with soap or
rubbing alcohol is your first line of defence. If your child takes special
medication, bring along an adequate stock. Note that rabid animals also pose
a risk. Check with a doctor before departure about the correctly
recommended jabs and drug courses for children in India.
Contaminated food & drink
In past years, some private medical clinics have provided patients with more
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h***y 发帖数: 4936 | 40 美国也有警告了
Be alert to scams tied to Japan relief efforts
Posted: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:00 am | Comments
Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne says people considering how to help with
the earthquake relief effort in Japan should be wary of scam artists
soliciting donations.
Making donations to reputable and established charities is the best way to
avoid being taken by con artists.
Other tips include being wary if a caller asks for a credit card or bank
account number unless you already have giv... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 41 If this deposit is more than a few percent of the total cost, then it's
probably a scam. If the mover didn't give you a written description of how
the deposit can be refunded, then it's probably a scam. |
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x****u 发帖数: 12955 | 43
They are not someone without basic ability to think rationally. They just
got blinded by greed.
The government is guilty of perpetrating a scam, but the people who got
conned deserve no pity. Because they went along with the scam willingly. |
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m**********n 发帖数: 27535 | 44 发信人: OverCloud (天马行空), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Re: 家里电脑被FBI给盯上了,交了200的罚款
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 29 22:38:44 2012, 美东)
FBI Moneypak virus is one more dangerous ransomware that blocks targeted
computer systems and tries to get money from their users. It uses the name
of FBI and blames you for breaking the law by watching and distributing
pornographic content files. According to the message of FBI Moneypak, you
have to pay a fine of $200. It tells you to do that through Moneypak payment
system which ... 阅读全帖 |
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t***h 发帖数: 5601 | 45 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: dean (aa), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 城管钓鱼,老中装修没执照的全逮了。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 23 18:16:05 2012, 美东)
联合城用一个房子吊了十四个。尼玛,以后只有在买卖提用中文了。
Statewide sting targets unlicensed contractors, including a dozen in the Bay
Area
By Natalie Neysa Alund, Bay Area News Group
Posted: 10/19/2012 03:21:32 PM PDT
Updated: 10/22/2012 06:41:38 AM PDT
Related
Oct 19:
14 Bay Area residents arrested in Union City on suspicion of contracting
without a license
Tips from the Contractors Sta... 阅读全帖 |
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t******r 发帖数: 8600 | 47 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: Kurt Schlichter:也许痛苦可以让年轻人下次不再投票让自己当农奴
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 7 14:20:26 2013, 美东)
Maybe Pain Will Teach You Millenials Not To Vote For Your Own Serfdom
Kurt Schlichter | Nov 04, 2013
You Millenials voted for Obama by a margin of 28 percent, which will make it
a lot easier for me to accept the benefits you will be paying for. We
warned you that liberalism was a scam designed to take the fruits of your
labor and transfer it to us, the... 阅读全帖 |
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b******r 发帖数: 1137 | 48 你用的是analogy,我说的是一个对于WFG的fact。
The business itself is not a scam. The way it practices makes it look like a
scam, and indeed it's a little bit shady. The revenue comes from the
commission of selling financial products, not from the $100 one-time
registration fee. A traditional FA shop like Merrill focus solely on selling
, and usually they only sell their own products, so the commission is indeed
a black box to clients. WFG sells products from all major financial
institutes. If you are an educate... 阅读全帖 |
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c******a 发帖数: 4400 | 49 why do someone hate 海外华人 so much, they want to do everything they can to
destroy 海外华人's confidence? They do all they can to bash 海外华人's
existence and make them look bad? If you think so low of yourself, why not
going back China which is just a plane ticket away? Please do not give in to
this kind of shit!!
have hope in yourself! have belief in yourself!
did 海外华人 produce poisonous smog?
did 海外华人 produce poisonous milk and use Di Gou You to make food?
did 海外华人 pollute every single river on the fac... 阅读全帖 |
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