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发帖数: 3962 | 2 我来抛砖引玉。现役球员加星号。
1. Larry Bird
2. Scottie Pippen
3. Julius Erving
4. John Havlicek
5. James Worthy
6. Elgin Baylor
7. Paul Peirce*
8. Lebron James*
9. Kevin Durant*
我没有把六步郎和杜阮排在PP之前，是觉得他们
需要证明自己能赢。贝勒爷没有赢。但是他太突
出了。六步郎和杜阮现在的成就还没有超过他。 |
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发帖数: 538 | 3 Very interesting (but very long) story about Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry
if you have time to read it. I feel it's very intriguing even for our
ordinary people's ordinary life.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7887970/the-divergent-caree
Jonathan Abrams on May 4, 2012
NBA executives from nearly every franchise packed a St. Louis gym in
December of 2000 to catch a glimpse at the future. The game at the Shop N
Save–KMOX Shootout — the marquee prep event of the year — featured Eddy
Curry from T... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9546 | 4 The Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Truth
By Bill Simmons on May 11, 2012 4:11 PM ET
After Paul Pierce single-handedly won Game 2 of the Atlanta series, a friend
of mine e-mailed, "Has there ever been anyone quite like Pierce?"
The short answer: No.
The long answer is a little more fun. Statistically, there's never been a
wing player like him. In the regular season, he's already played 37,785
minutes (39th all-time), scored 22,591 points (30th), averaged 22 points a
game (30th), grab... 阅读全帖 |
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s******r
发帖数: 21961 | 5 你居然没有算barkley.
第一届名单：
PF 4 Laettner, Christian 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m) 235 lb (107 kg)
Duke
C 5 Robinson, David 7 ft 1 in (2.16 m) 235 lb (107 kg)
San Antonio Spurs
C 6 Ewing, Patrick 7 ft 0 in (2.13 m) 240 lb (110 kg)
New York Knicks
SF 7 Bird, Larry 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m) 220 lb (100 kg)
Boston Celtics
SF 8 Pippen, Scottie 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) 210 lb (95 kg)
Chicago Bulls
SG 9 Jordan, Michael ... 阅读全帖 |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 6 从hupu上看到一个贴子，作者开发了一种算法，将球星每场比赛的“战斗力”进行了计
算和排名，不是历史地位排名，而是一场比赛的即战力排名。似乎有点意思。作为一家
之言，可以参考看看
http://bbs.hupu.com/4002913.html
基本设定是：算一个球员前1000场平均成绩（不够1000场的算目前场次）；对一些特殊
类型球员场次特殊处理；对73年以前的stl和blk进行假设；对上古时代篮板数打折处理
其余设定和说明可看原帖。
基本计算方法：
1.1000场平均得分乘以1。
2.1000场平均助攻加权乘以2.25。(1次成功助攻能帮助球队得分平均是2.25分)
3.1000场平均篮板加权乘以1.78。（1次进攻球权平均可得1.07分。1次篮板可减少敌队
1次进攻球权，增加我队1次进攻球权，但因为有防守篮板的因素影响，篮板加权不宜比
抄截高，因为防守篮板有某种必然性跟团队性：敌队没进的球，我队抢到防守篮板的机
率就是比较高，这跟团队卡位、人员站位有关，而且抢防守篮板的工作大多是已经设定
给中锋或大前锋优先去抢）
4.1000场平均抄截加权乘以2.14。（1次进攻球权平均可得1... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 35028 | 7
看效率大致就行了，排名不分先后，稍有偏差，但基本靠谱
1-20 超巨
20-50 巨星
50-200 球星
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.25
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.63
7. Chris Paul 25.45
8. Bob Pettit* 25.35
9. Tim Duncan 24.78
10. Neil Johnston* 24.69
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Magic Johnson* 24.11
14. Karl Malone* 23.90
15. Dirk Nowitzki 23.63
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Larry Bird* 23.50
18. Kobe Br... 阅读全帖 |
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m***s
发帖数: 1777 | 8 怎么发挥主力的能力难道不是教练考虑的事？一个老人队非要打炮轰，最后能跑动才怪
Kobe Bryant SG 34
Pau Gasol PF 32
Dwight Howard C 26
Metta World Peace SF 33
Steve Nash PG 38
1997年的公牛
Dennis Rodman 36
Scottie Pippen 32
Michael Jorden 34
Ron Harper 33
Luc Longley 28
有明显区别嘛？ |
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s******n
发帖数: 6806 | 9 scottie 说 老北京 kick 帮主ass,
还吵啥啊 |
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 10 lbj 26+11+13
Jun 15 2003 Tim Duncan 21 20 10
Jun.5 2002 Jason Kidd 23 10 10
Jun.16 1993 Charles Barkley 32 12 10
Jun.21 1988 James Worthy 36 16 10
May 5 1969 Jerry West 42 13 12
Jun.11 1993 Scottie Pippen 15 12 12
Jun.8 1986 Larr Bird 29 11 12
Apr.16 1967 Wilt Chumb... 阅读全帖 |
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M****o
发帖数: 4860 | 11 MIAMI — The New York Times News Service
Published Monday, Jun. 10 2013, 8:01 PM EDT
Last updated Monday, Jun. 10 2013, 8:02 PM EDT
Tracy McGrady’s sleepy eyes always belied his explosive first step and
premier skills. But injury and erosion awakened him to the fickle realities
of fate and left observers wondering if the eyes have turned from sleepy to
sad.
McGrady, 34, would most likely have been in decline at this point in his
preps-to-pros career no matter what, having entered the NBA in 1997.... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5314 | 12 97-98
1 Michael Jordan $33,140,000
2 Toni Kukoc $4,560,000
3 Ron Harper $4,560,000
4 Dennis Rodman $4,500,000
5 Luc Longley $3,184,900
6 Scottie Pippen $2,775,000
7 Bill Wennington $1,800,000
8 Scott Burrell $1,430,000
9 Randy Brown $1,260,000
10 Dickey Simpkins $1,235,000
11 Robert Parish $1,150,000
12 Jason Caffey $850,920
13 Steve Kerr $750,000
14 David Vaughn $693,840
15 Keith Booth $597,600
16 Jud Buechler $500,000
17 Joe Kleine $272,250
18 Rusty LaRue *$242,000 |
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K*4
发帖数: 1808 | 13 Jason Kidd's pick
PG-John Stockton
SG-Michael Jordan
SF-Scottie Pippen
PF-Tim Duncan
C-Shaquille O’Neal
没有远古人物 |
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发帖数: 1034 | 14 MALIBU, Calif. -- Former Chicago Bulls star Scottie Pippen has been named a
suspect after a fight outside of a well-known sushi eatery in Malibu over
the weekend that landed one man in the hospital, according to Sgt. Richard
Pena of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
"Detectives questioned him and released him, pending further investigation,"
Pena said. "They want to question witnesses further.
"At that point, they will make a decision as to whether they have a good
case."
The altercat... 阅读全帖 |
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d***3
发帖数: 81 | 15 比喻不当，皮朋拿的是当时SUPERSTAR的平均工资了。相当于说今天WADE拿1000万，而
LEBRON拿了1亿。 皮朋只是没赶上当时NBA工资狂张的第一波 (以SHAQ的NBA第一个亿元
合同为代表)。记得98还是97全明星赛，乔丹被评为MVP，得了30多万一法拉力，乔老大
力马就转送皮朋
John Stockton
1990-91 - $2,000,000
1991-92 - $2,100,000
1992-93 - $2,200,000
1993-94 - $2,400,000
1994-95 - $2,600,000
1995-96 - $2,800,000
1996-97 - $6,000,000
1997-98 - $5,000,000
1998-99 - $4,000,000
1999-00 - $11,000,000
2000-01 - $11,000,000
2001-02 - $7,000,000
2002-03 - $7,875,000
Michael Jordan
1990-91 - $2,500,000
1991-92 - $3,250,000
1992-9... 阅读全帖 |
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | 16 基本同意，除了98年game6那段，那场比赛皮二哥确实是发挥了传说中数据体现不出来
的作用，只要他在场上，哪怕他只能很艰难地移动好像啥都干不了，但只要他在场上公
牛就能稳住形势，他一下去爵士立刻气势就起来
其他部分尤其是皮二哥的role说得非常好，乔老爷扇子vs乔黑都已经掐了10多年了，能
把皮二哥的作用解释得这么清楚的很少看到。 |
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发帖数: 418 | 17 The Bulls started 12-9 before they turned it
around, winning eight straight and 11 of 12 after they returned home in
December. When Pippen returned in mid January the Bulls were 24-11 and even
after Pippen's return it was still Jordan carrying them
很显然，MJ在公牛中的地位是绝对主导的。Pippen的作用也很重要，作者的观点是如果
没有pippen,MJ也会领导公牛赢得几个戒指
这儿的乔黑还是比较少的。主要目的也是为了提高KB的地位。 |
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s********0
发帖数: 228 | 19 这种讨论没意义，因为历史没有如果。但是乔丹的地位不容质疑，皮蓬的实力也一样不
容质疑。 |
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O****X
发帖数: 24292 | 20 这种肯定式的虚拟语气有啥用啊，跟尼玛说佐敦打网球也一定能拿世界冠军，姚明说自
己能上清华一样。 |
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 21 格兰特能一抓一大把吗？罗德曼能一抓一大把吗？皮蓬能一抓一大把吗？菲儿杰克逊能
一抓一大把吗？
不能。
只有观众能。
1984年，乔丹进入公牛开始NBA生涯。
1987年，格兰特（Horace Grant）和斯科蒂·皮蓬(Scottie Pippen)进入公牛开始NBA
生涯。
1990年，乔丹已经进入NBA六年了，连东部冠军都没有得过，从没有进过总决赛的门槛。
1989年，菲尔·杰克逊（Phil Jackson）被起用为公牛队主教练。
菲尔·杰克逊在执教芝加哥公牛队之前，担任NBA新泽西网队助理教练2年，同时兼做球
员，CBA阿尔巴尼队主教练5年：（1985年获CBA最佳教练）。NBA芝加哥公牛队助理教练
2年。
1991年（90-91赛季），总决赛战胜湖人队，夺得第一个总冠军。 |
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发帖数: 28835 | 23 Scottie Brooks is roasted by OKC media now. |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 24 显然啊 昨天上半场的OKC就四个字 瞎鸡巴打
Scottie Brooks is roasted by OKC media now. |
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b*****o
发帖数: 796 | 25 Thibodeau has been criticized in years past for overplaying All-Star Luol
Deng and, before his string of injuries, former league MVP Derrick Rose.
Now he has come under fire for his use of Butler, even though none of his
players lead the league in minutes played.
[+] Enlarge
Stephen Dunn/Getty Images
Tom Thibodeau pointed out Friday that Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen "
were playing huge minutes" well into their 30s.
"I think you guys watch that," he said. "I think when you look at that, you
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p******a
发帖数: 591 | 26 PER这些大家都知道；下面是季后赛的win share，这眼瞅着就要第一去了，没有大的伤
病，起码还要打7、8年呢。
1. Michael Jordan* 39.76
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 35.56
3. Tim Duncan 34.51
4. Magic Johnson* 32.63
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.46
6. LeBron James 31.27
7. Shaquille O'Neal 31.08
8. Kobe Bryant 28.26
9. Bill Russell* 27.76
10. Julius Erving* 26.89
11. Jerry West* 26.75
12. Larry Bird* ... 阅读全帖 |
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t***c
发帖数: 289 | 27 1 Scottie Pippen $18,083,564
2 Rasheed Wallace $14,400,000
3 Shawn Kemp $12,660,000
4 Damon Stoudamire $12,375,000
5 Dale Davis $7,010,000
6 Derek Anderson $6,495,000
7 Ruben Patterson $4,538,000
8 Steve Kerr $2,406,250
9 Bonzi Wells $2,028,239
10 Zach Randolph $1,019,280
11 Chris Dudley $1,000,000
12 Mitchell Butler $715,850
13 Erick Barkley $638,000
14 Rick Brunson $590,850
15 Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje $332,8... 阅读全帖 |
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n****m
发帖数: 398 | 28 当年公牛想招老北京的时候，这货就不积极，老北京爱来不来。那时候那可以理解，因
为他正处巅峰，老北京来了必然抢尽风头和老大的位置。。。
现在招甜瓜，这货又是不积极（While Rose had went on the record saying that he
wasn’t going recruit Anthony to Chicago），但又向甜瓜展示他还能饭（Rose
went through a private workout to show Anthony that he’s healthy and ready
to compete at a high level next season）。晚餐也不和甜瓜一起吃（After
meeting and discussing the team’s pitch, the group went to dinner at the
Peninsula Hotel in downtown Chicago. Anthony, Noah, Gibson, Thibodeau, Jerry
Reinsdorf, Gar Forman and Scot... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3934 | 29 这两项可能是主要原因吧，这人太全面了。
One of four players in NBA history to lead their team in all five major
statistical categories (total points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals)
in a single season (2008–09 season).[50]
Includes Dave Cowens (1977–78), Scottie Pippen (1994–95) and Kevin Garnett
(2002–03).
One of seven players in NBA history to record 2,000 points and 600 assists
in a single season.[51]
Includes Oscar Robertson (achieved this seven times), John Havlicek (
achieved this twice), Tiny Archibald... 阅读全帖 |
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 30 这个名单？
就说相对大家比较熟悉的Scottie Pippen和Kevin Garnett吧。
乔丹看了一眼包皮和雷阿伦，三人同时点点头。
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Garnett |
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发帖数: 418 | 31 身体素质略逊一筹，但是更为敬业。
攻防兼备.特别是防守能力，在目前小前里稳居前三。
在这个缺乏乔丹级别人物的NBA里，看好他以后比皮蓬更有大的发展空间。 |
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v*r
发帖数: 4532 | 33 别小看皮蓬 乔丹不在 皮蓬也是MVP第三加双一阵 相当于这个赛季的詹姆斯或者浓眉哥
的发挥
当然莱纳德确实牛逼 |
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g*m
发帖数: 4659 | 35 搞笑。mj应该两个名人堂席位，皮蓬那个也是他给的。 |
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 38 搞笑，没有皮蓬，乔丹最多就是个子高点儿的AI而已。 |
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d**********t
发帖数: 20415 | 39 实话实说，皮二凭他的能力进名人堂完全没有问题，当然皮二确实是帮主一手培养的 |
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发帖数: 20415 | 40 卡瓦伊的风格是下一个MJ，而不是皮二，他是进攻的终结者不是组织者，当然这年头想
成为下一个MJ的人无数，能做到多少就看卡瓦伊的努力了 |
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e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 41 现在越来越喜欢他了，低调勤勉攻防兼备没有明显的弱项，也不是那种一切以自己为中
心的drama queen，再过三五年估计就是妥妥的联盟第一人了。 |
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k**x
发帖数: 2611 | 42 第一人没戏，天赋不够。起点比以前的第一人低太多了，没有一进来就大杀四方。 |
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e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 43 三年以后詹姆斯不再prime了，还有谁？今年MVP排名前两的Curry和Harden跟一进来就
大杀四方差的老远了，Harden还打了几年的第六人。 |
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a**********e
发帖数: 418 | 46 皮蓬缺乏的是leadership。这和常在乔丹一起打球的副作用。
水能载舟也能覆舟。 |
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a**********e
发帖数: 418 | 47 名誉和个人能力不一定成正比。
科比的个人能力比LBJ强。但是最后的取得的成就略逊。 |
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M*****4
发帖数: 155 | 49 他跟皮蓬不是一个路子的吧。
防守和篮板他很难达到皮蓬的水准，皮小前大前内线外线都能防；传球和策应也够呛，
虽然不是不可能。
不过中投更稳定，并且就小前而言drive的潜力不错，可以比皮蓬更多地尝试突破 |
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V****n
发帖数: 651 | 50 按：93的NBA是我来美第二年看NBA,92年第一次知道有个乔丹是因为台湾室友是个篮球迷
当时不知道自己见证的史上第一人的巅峰期，只是觉得这个人怎么这么厉害。98年后又
看了几年NBA，越看越没劲，后来终于只看总决赛了。除了帮主，20年来NBA另外一个变
态的存在只有奥胖，但那是暴力的顶峰，不是篮球艺术的顶峰。
http://bbs.hupu.com/13012170.html
Age 28-30 yrs.old
1991 Finals: 31.2 pts, 6.6 reb, 11.4 ast, 2.8 stls, 1.4 blks (55.8% FG) 1992
Finals: 35.8 pts, 4.8 reb, 6.5 ast, 3.5 stls (52.6% FG) 1993 Finals: 41.0
pts, 8.5 reb, 6.3 ast, 2.3 stls (51% FG)
So good I bet he could beat a team of ultimate basketball playing aliens....
.lol
帮主28-30岁的巅峰期头一个三连... 阅读全帖 |
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