e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 1 Summary: Best choice is 12GA pump shotgun, loaded with #1 buckshot.
http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm
Shotgun Home Defense Ammunition
(Tactical Briefs #10, October 1998)
For home defense, a shotgun is superior to a handgun in terms of being able
to stop a violent intruder as quickly as possible. A reliable, well-made,
pump-action shotgun can usually be purchased for less than the cost of a
handgun of comparable quality. Also, inexpensive birdshot ammunition,
typically used for trainin... 阅读全帖 |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 2 这篇里面有很多有用的信息：
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2006/10/14/shotguns-for-home-defense
If there is one handheld weapon that is more likely than others to offer a
one-shot stop of a hostile opponent, it would be “the gauge” or “12
banger” as it is known on the street.
One of the things I heard over and over from prisoners was their respect for
and fear of the shotgun. One inmate who was incarcerated for murder and
drug-trafficking charges told me “A determined man with a ‘gauge’ should
not be messed with.... 阅读全帖 |
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P*******o
发帖数: 460 | 3 准备进一支Slug Shotgun with Rifled Barrel，为今年冬天的猎季做准备。虽然在网
上搜到不少东西，但是因为缺乏实践经验，所以想把我找到的列出来请大家伙评判一下
，出出主意。响应版大号召，准备专枪专用。
先说说我想到的需求：
（1）Slug Shotgun with Rifled Barrel，能打sabot slug.专枪用来打鹿或其他大型
动物。预算可以灵活掌握，上限不超过1500刀，两三百刀的我也愿意打，上千刀的咬咬
牙也能买下来，只要物有所值。我主要考虑野外条件相对恶劣，应该买一支可靠性高，
精度好而又比较粗实耐造的枪，太金贵的枪会不会容易磕碰以致影响使用？在精华区考
了一下古，有人曾提到用Benelli的Super Black Eagle或M2 Field有开奔驰车运大粪的
嫌疑；也有人建议一步到位，买能买得起的最好的枪，反正枪投资是一次性的，以后的子弹
费才是大头，不要家里一堆便宜货，却没有一支上台面的枪。两种说法我觉得好像都有
道理。
（2）带Scope Mount base,能装一个光学瞄准镜，因为射程不会太远（150-200码最大
上限？），所... 阅读全帖 |
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a**e
发帖数: 8800 | 4 【 以下文字转载自 GunsAndGears 讨论区 】
发信人: Commissar (柯宓同志), 信区: GunsAndGears
标 题: Colorado bill would ban pump shotgun
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 3 21:34:23 2013, 美东)
One of Colorado’s most popular standard shotguns would be banned under a
bill making its way through the state Capitol.
State Sen. Greg Brophy, a Republican, said a pump or semi-automatic shotgun
— the gun most hunters use in Colorado — could be banned under a bill that
’s already passed the state House. Gov. John Hickenlooper said he will ... 阅读全帖 |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 5 One of Colorado’s most popular standard shotguns would be banned under a
bill making its way through the state Capitol.
State Sen. Greg Brophy, a Republican, said a pump or semi-automatic shotgun
— the gun most hunters use in Colorado — could be banned under a bill that
’s already passed the state House. Gov. John Hickenlooper said he will sign
the ban, CBS Denver reports.
They’re coming after the standard shotgun,” Mr. Brophy told CBS. “
Hundreds of thousands of pheasant hunters are probably go... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 6 Shotgun Ammo Belt in Medium or Large from Galati Gear $12.45 shipped
Link:
http://www.gearhog.com/
Shotgun Shell Belt - Medium - Galati Gear
Quick detachable buckle and quality elastic keepers securely hold your
shotgun shells. Won't shake loose while walking or shooting. Buckle is sewn
on, and not removable. GLSGB
The medium shotgun belt holds 35 rounds and fits 45"-52"" waists.
Shotgun Shell Belt - Large - Galati Gear
Quick detachable buckle and quality elastic keepers securely hold your
shotg... 阅读全帖 |
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 7 "The 870 was the standard military shotgun for many years. When the
military beat the heck out of their 870's and were looking to replace them
they held trials. Remington has the police and civilian market and sells a
great many shotguns, decided that it did not need the military contract
and did not even enter a shotgun for the trials. The Mossberg won the
trials because it was the only shotgun entered. Not to detract from the
Mossberg but it is now being replaced and is one of the shortest liv... 阅读全帖 |
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 8 你哪只眼睛看到我说手枪了？carbine什么意思看不懂？
不知道你说的＂随便一个semiauto shotgun, 8 发， 枪管18.5. 打到渣都不剩＂依据
从何而来．首先容弹量，不加extend tube的我没看到那个枪能装这么多（KSG和UTS我
说过了，那俩除外）．我自己的rem ８７０加了wilson combat的tube，也只能装７发
３＂shot shells，２．７５＂的也许能多装一发，但那个弹丸数少很多．至于打到渣
都不剩，你是好莱坞电影看多了吧，００Buck确实后座比鸟蛋猛，打纸箱子也显得很厉
害，但也就是相当于几发手枪弹罢了，更何况还要命中的前提下．一发miss之后让对方
躲到cover后面shoot back的话，shotgun恐怕都很难有第二次机会了，可怜的容弹量也
会变得很明显。无论是pump shot还是semi auto，影响射速的都是后座抑制，射速和
carbine比起来差得远，除非你不在乎打到天花板上．另外不知道你说的枪管长度意义
何在？是说太长在屋子里不灵活么？如果是为了配合你说＂打到渣都不剩＂，那很抱歉
，这个是滑膛枪，不需要靠管子加速．
当... 阅读全帖 |
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p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 9 在25yard(75ft) 用shotgun slug打了5枪（大弹孔），换手枪上靶都难，然后用
shotgun
sports load打了一枪（就是那些小弹孔）。
今天发现我的打枪极限:
搞了40发9mm, 300左右发.22， 10发shotgun slug，30发shotgun sport load
然后打旁边老人的.45，枪都举不起来了，打一枪后，震的我枪都快丢了，让老人笑话
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发帖数: 4534 | 10 Well put.
There are no magic bullets, all effective man-stopper ammo will penetrate
dry walls.
Typical 12 gauge shotgun and self defense ammo does not have enough spread
in room distance to "cover" a large area, if your muzzle is off by a few
inches, you miss for good.
The rule of thumb for hip-firing a shotgun is when the target is within 7
yard while some police instructor prefer under 5 yard. Further than that one
can easily miss the target if he doesn't aim down the barrel. That pretty
much ... 阅读全帖 |
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p***e
发帖数: 29053 | 11 老婆答应年底买最后一支枪，现有2支手枪，一支.22一支9mm
非常犹豫买shotgun还是rifle好
shotgun是
MOSSBERG PERSUADER（500） SHOTGUN 主要是home-defense
http://www.academy.com/index.php?
page=content&target=products/outdoors/hunting/firearms/shotguns&start=0&
selectedSKU=0350-01883-0411
rifle是MOSSBERG 100 ATR SCOPED RIFLE COMBO
http://www.academy.com/index.php?
page=content&target=products/outdoors/hunting/firearms/rifles_centerfire
&start=0&selectedSKU=0345-01883-3306
或者
REMINGTON 770™ COMBO
http://www.academy.com/index.php?
page=c |
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 12 http://www.thegunsource.com/item/516040__Kel-Tec_Rifles_Shotgun
Specifications
•Keltec® KSG Shotgun
•Manufacturer Number: KSG
•Action: Pump Action
•Caliber: 12 Gauge
•Capacity: 14 Round
•Choke Tubes: Cylinder Bore
•Includes: Basic Sling
•Features:
◦Under Picatinny Rail
◦Top Picatinny Sight Rail
•Sights: None
•Barrel Length: 18.5 Inches
•Overall Length: 26.1 Inches
•Weight (empty): 6.9 Pounds
•Stock: Bla... 阅读全帖 |
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c******n
发帖数: 4965 | 13 http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/p/gunlaws_ca.htm
"
Permit to purchase rifles and shotguns? No
Registration of rifles and shotguns? No
Licensing of owners of rifles and shotguns? No
Permit to carry rifles and shotguns? No
"
does this mean that I can carry a long gun in my car ? ( not even locked in
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a**6
发帖数: 106 | 14
223
that is a Wrong perception. You need to aim the shotgun just like a rifle.
otherwise it will easily miss as rifle. Shotgun shell does not spread like
what you think or like Hollywood movie showing you. At a normal home
defense distance, within 10 yard, normal buckshot would have ~10" wide
spread pattern. That is why it is important to pattern your shotgun with
your choice of defense ammo at the range before put the shotgun to HD duty. |
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j****y
发帖数: 1714 | 15 把自己的老贴加点新东西.
1. 买枪。
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Mossberg Combo $309 @ big 5.
第一天晚上去买被据。
big 5 店小二不看绿卡，要求出示任何州颁发的hunting license 或者 attorney
general 的什么letter.
添的表格有个tricky问题，问如果你非移民签证入的美国，是不是 fall in the
exceptions defined in instructions. 我大概读了 exception,基本是外交官，执法
人员之类。所以回答了no.
店小儿说选了 yes 需要hunting license. 选了 no 需要 attorney general letter.
我没有这些东西，白跑一趟。
回家后下载网上表格仔细研究。
DOJ firm: Firearm transaction record Over the Counter .
http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf
Qu... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 17 说真的,shotgun散布在近距离没有想象中那么大
考虑到近距离无论shotgun还是手枪或者步枪(包括carbine)瞄准都十分容易
"更易命中"恐怕算不上shotgun的明显优势
我的想法里,shotgun最大的优势恐怕还是pump那一下的声音给歹徒带来的震撼
并因此很可能discourage对方,达到不战屈人之兵的最佳效果 |
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i*****0
发帖数: 1113 | 18 今天中午去枪店，想买一只最简单的home defense的12 Gauge shotgun的，本来以为
Mossberg 500， Remington 870等等著名的shotgun就300块出头，结果local 店居然要
$495左右一支。
最后买了店里面标价 $295 的Savage Stevens shotgun Pump action Model 350, 加上
税和document fee 什么的最后出门价$340左右。
这个shotgun怎么样？reliability 可靠性 如何？
谢谢 |
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v*********w
发帖数: 1632 | 19 未入门新手，shotgun枪盲一个，以前在OH的时候和美国学生一起在枪会打的是手枪，
而且是别人的。自己没有枪。
现在在ARKANSAS工作，H1，没有绿卡，刚刚注册的hunter education class，准备考了
hunting license之后买枪，目标用途为打猎加防身。 周末去academy sports看了下，
小二说没有绿卡不能卖枪给我，问他要了表格，仔细阅读了下，发现写明了non－
immigrant 如果有hunting license，是可以买枪的。再问小二，小二说如果有license
，可以卖枪给我，表格中有写明， firearms只能用作打猎的用途。那这种情况，我是
不是买不了手枪？
另外，哪里是最权威的查询自己作为non－immigrant能否买各种枪的机构？
家里装有ADT，看板上大多推荐手枪放卧室，shotgun放楼下。可是俺如果买不了手枪，
那为了防身，shotgun只能放卧室了（如有其他推荐，请不吝赐教）。shotgun的safe都
很大，放卧室确实很占地方，求推荐一个好看，不要太占地方的safe，谢谢。如果不用
safe，怎么存放？
谢谢大家. |
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r*****2
发帖数: 1549 | 20 Exotic Weapons
Exotic Weapons are designed to look, feel and sound overpowered, but to not
actually break the game. We hope these weapons challenge the way players
think about their loadouts and expect their idiosyncrasies to sometimes be a
little frustrating. We find ourselves wanting to collect them all and hope
players feel the same way.
Not all our Exotic Weapons currently live up to this promise. In particular
those weapons received from completing exotic bounties including Thorn and
Bad Ju... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 141625 | 21 在世界日报上看来的，不过牛筋是我一个个字打的，还自我发挥了一点，哈哈：
（一）Take the cake
第一季的X Factor电视歌手选秀比赛节目落下帷幕。在比赛结果出来的前一天，电视新
闻上在谈论这次X Factor选秀，主持人说“Who will take the cake？”，我以为获胜
者可以吃蛋糕，后来才知道“take the cake”是指表现更加出色，也即“谁将是优胜
者”之意。
但在美国俚语中，take the cake也可指“更糟”，譬如I've seen bad grammar, but
this takes the cake，意思是见过语法差的，没见过这么差的。
（二）call the shotgun
那天载儿子和他几个朋友去逛街，一群小孩要上车时争先恐后地说：“I call the
shotgun.”我搞不清楚他们到底在争什么，又看他们用猜拳来决定，猜赢的孩子得意洋
洋地坐进前面驾驶座旁的位置，这才知道他们在争谁坐前座。
为什么前座叫shotgun呢？上网查了才知道，原来这个说法源自西部拓荒时代，那时坐
在驾驶座旁边的人，多半会携带手枪以保护全车人的安全，所... 阅读全帖 |
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G****r
发帖数: 5579 | 22 15:27 GMT
Italy seizes 800 shotguns bound for Belgium – police
Italian police seized almost 800 shotguns bound for Belgium from Turkey on a
truck that arrived in the northeastern port of Trieste, Reuters reported.
Customs rules had not been violated, but the Turkish truck driver did not
have the licenses needed to transport the 781 Winchester SXP shotguns, the
finance police, who are often in charge of port security, said on Thursday.
Pump-action Winchester SXP rifles are made for hunting, but p... 阅读全帖 |
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P**5
发帖数: 7467 | 23 自己造枪很简单
造枪其实是很简单的，材料也很便宜。现在钢铁非常便宜，还没有瓶子值钱。废物回收
的行业，已经不收零碎的废钢铁。你在街上能见到流浪汉捡瓶子，看不到流浪汉偷下水
道的盖子。
枪的结构非常简单，你拆卸几次就明白了。造枪是一个非常简单的体力活。 Shotgun
还没有自行车结构复杂。自己造枪比自己造自行车，容易100倍。如果你能胜任维修自
行车，你就具备一个人造枪的能力。
首先你要选一根枪管。散弹枪的管子，大约要承担20k PSI的压力而不炸膛。 home
depot 的铁管子，只能到大约 8k PSI。 我有一个很简单的解决方法，就是只装填三分
之一的弹药。能想到用 Home depot 铁管子装填 三分之一弹药的，只有我一个。防止
炸膛还有个方法，是我维修自行车减震装置时学会的，就是 nest 枪管，内外两层枪管
，中间是一圈不锈钢弹簧。 这么简单的方法，你为什么想不到，因为你笨的无可救药
，根本不懂自行车。
为了装填方便，需要在铁管开一个方洞，也非常简单。用笔画出大体形状，用我路边捡
来修好的 Bosch 5 inch angle grinder， 配一个3块钱的 meda... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****t
发帖数: 1661 | 24 应该能找到专门打飞碟靶场，google: skeet/trap...,那是为shotgun准备的。一般靶
场，就算允许打霰弹，也会限制只能打固定目标。总得给你个地方pattern你的shotgun
不是。
毛子还有4号的shotgun呢，可惜美国搞不到。12号的对正常人来说没问题。我当年上打
猎课的时候，最后一课上靶场现场教育考核，10岁出头的小朋友（正常体格不是小姚明
那种尺寸）都用12号pump干掉至少一个陶盘子才算过关。 |
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M*j
发帖数: 3534 | 26 民用shotgun，泵动是习惯或者偏好，比如我以后的shotgun也会买泵动
军警用泵动shotgun是什么考虑。 |
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f******u
发帖数: 767 | 27 There are many different kind of alternative shotgun shell for different
situations. Bean bags, rubber balls and even rock salt have been used as
projectiles of shotgun ammo in crowd/riot control and HD situations.
You can put just about anything in a shotgun and call it ammo. Here is a
list of some of the wacky ammunition produced commercially,
Avenger: Hollow steel balls with a low gunpowder load.
Bird Bombs: An explosive payload, which (in theory) detonates on impact.
Roughly equivalent to an |
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T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 28 Kinda of pricy, wondering if it worth it or just redneck YY.
*******************************
Shots Fired will be conducting Tactical Shotgun from 0900-1200 THIS SATURDAY
06/19/10. Cost is 95.00. Location is Duffys Gun Room 15433 Falls Rd, Sparks
, MD. Contact www.shotsfiredonline.com to schedule. Go to services and
select Defensive shotgun. All legal shotguns are welcome (sbr, auto, pump,
field...) this is a tactical course bring eyes, ears, kneepads, proper
footwear is encouraged. prepare to wa |
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S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | 29 28" barrel is for hunting.
a home defense shotgun is more of a riotgun, which is 18" - 20" barrel
unchoked (some call it cylinder choke).
the length of the magazine tube should be up to the length of the
barrel,
which is 7-8rd + 1 in the chamber with standard 2 3/4" shells.
this is my setup:
Mossberg 590, 20" barrel, 8+1. some consider this a little too long for
home
defense, i say let the operator decide what's best for them.
features:
simple bead sight - get a good cheek weld then point and sh... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****9
发帖数: 805 | 30 你确定要打sabot slug？ 那玩意16刀5发, shotgun 100yd那个grouping各种难看即便
是sabot slug，shotgun打猎最远50-100yd. 打猎还是上bolt action吧，价廉物美，除
非猎区只能用shotgun |
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j****y
发帖数: 198 | 31 看来不少人都建议家防应该进Shotgun。
那么既然进了Shotgun就要进行演练。可是附近的Range却不允许使用Shotgun。
类似情况的各位都是如何练习的？非得去打鸭子吗？
先谢过了。 |
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N*********r
发帖数: 1190 | 32 新手打步枪，上来没多会儿就能打个差不多。
新手打手枪，克服后坐力恐惧后（或者换口径）也就能打得基本上靶。
新手上shotgun, 可能一年了，连应该怎么mount怎么瞄准都没搞清楚，shotgun的fit和
身体协调性要求太高了。
btw, shotgun不是设计成这样打的--25米以内放个milk jug然后用birdshot轰中就算的
应该是--
移动靶就是飞碟
固定靶就是25 yard, 10" circle, buckshot， 60% pellets on target |
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g****g
发帖数: 228 | 34 有以下看法希望大家反驳？
1. 如果break in是小偷求财，偷点东西也就算了，用不着shotgun
2. 因为有小孩，shotgun 和子弹分开，但是这样对哪些不只是求财的break in就没有
足够反应时间，还是没用。
就是这shotgun不上膛，小事用不上，大事又来不及，好像一点用都没有。 |
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a**6
发帖数: 106 | 35
From what I have read so far, there are many wrong perceptions about the
shotgun shell penetration and pattern posted here.
First, it needs penetration. The projectile needs to penetrate no less than
12" to reach bad guy's major vital and central nerve system effectively
disabling the bad guy immediately. FBI and ammo manufactures had spent
millions of dollar on researches and testing to come up with the effective
12"-18" penetration guideline. SemperFortis has provided a very useful
penetrati... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 36 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: 民主党傻冒女Wendy Davds连shotgun都不知道怎么拿
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 31 14:54:32 2014, 美东)
So the other night, this would be Tuesday while the majority of the Texas
political press were locked out, the Wendy Davis campaign thought it would
be a good idea to make their candidate look more “badass.”
This is the unfortunate result.
Holding a firearm and looking good isn’t generally a difficult thing to do.
Say what want about Ann Richards, and I was ... 阅读全帖 |
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T****e
发帖数: 77 | 37 我大门到床的距离才约10-12码,10码的散布也就4到6寸吧，但因后座力大准确度受一定
影响，可以认为两者抵消吗？觉得来人到3码的时候shotgun就很难用了，但手枪还可以
马上point and shoot不用瞄准的打一枪。另外在10码及以内射速很重要吧，半自动连
续打应该比较有优势, Shotgun会不会来不及pump? 唯一考虑的就是Shotgun的stopping
power比较好。 |
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h******h
发帖数: 903 | 38 买枪训练一定要跟上。pump虽然多个动作，但是卡壳的概率很低。只要训练跟上，基本
上是非常可靠的武器。但是半自动就不一样了。由于shotgun 子弹的种类和制作工艺的
不同，很多半自动都有挑子弹和不上弹的问题。家防的时候如果发生那样的情况基本上
就是死。所以大家都不推荐半自动shotgun作为家防选择。但是相对小的后坐力和比较
快速的补射能力让半自动shotgun成为打猎和打飞碟的一个好选择。不过要是专门打碟
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a**6
发帖数: 106 | 39 Price tag is not the major factor for defense pump shotgun as long as it
functions reliably. Even sub $200 pump shotgun like Mervick 88 and hawk 981/
982, they will serve you well. It is a defense shotgun; just put a good led
light on it minimized the extra weight.
Save the extra hundreds of dollars on shells and training class to practice
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b*****e
发帖数: 1032 | 40 昨天看了这个入室没成功的帖子：http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/GunsAndGears/31838785.html
心想自己应该买枪家防，有备无患。之前一直想买，但意识不够，平时家里的ADT都天
天用所以没放在心上。昨晚读了版上的很多帖，很有益，目前的计划是一把pump shot
gun, 一把手枪
shotgun 锁定在以下三个：
Winchester SXP defender 12Ga 18寸枪管, 说是不卡壳，很顺华
Remington 870
Mossberg 500
Handgun还没想好是左轮还是半自动。网上看到推荐Ruger P101, S&W 686, Glock 19,
具体大伙给点建议吧。
我已经查好当地的三个卖枪的店，还有indoor range, 计划先去店里时时手感，喜欢的
话当场就买了。然后每隔一段时间用shotgun去打打飞盘，手枪就indoor range练练。
放枪的盒子还没看好，不过买到枪一两天就买的。
本人常年锻炼，买枪就是图个有备无患，reliable最重要，不图fancy. shotgun平时放
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a**6
发帖数: 106 | 41 No need to be arm-chair commando arguing what is correct or not.
One uses a shotgun as HD tool must patent his shotgun with defense shot
shell of choice in the reality fighting distance anyway. Those shot spread
can tell if you need to aim a shotgun of not, even in close quarter.
BTW, the shooter has legal responsibility for every shots or bb including
those miss the target.
Cannot emphasize enough the "most needed professional training"
and practice
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 42 ride the shotgun, call the shotgun, take the shotgun |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 43 I've seen a lot of handgun threads recently, and a few rifle ones...I've
even started a few, but I haven't seen a shotgun thread in a while, so I
figured I'd fire the first round, so to speak.
One thing that's come up frequently, especially in the handgun threads, is
the question, "What's a good gun for home defense?" There are usually a lot
of replies, and at least a couple recommendations for a shotgun as the
ideal home defense weapon.
If a shotgun is your choice, you'd be hard pressed to fin |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 45 Turner's in CA has the FNH Tactical Police Shotgun:
http://www.turners.com/engage/displayads.php
(TPS) for $399.98
Only 225 available, this was difficult to find online to check the price,
the one price I did find was at Davi's for $799 and it was out of stock and
Gunsource.com had it for $759 and was also out of stock.
Given FNH's reputation, I think this is a pretty great deal.
This is YMMV as it is B&M only and a limited supply
From FNH's website:
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s***d
发帖数: 15421 | 47 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: xavierok (Hermes), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Joe Biden: "Buy a Shotgun" - easier to shoot than AR 15
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 2 16:57:45 2013, 美东)
http://youtu.be/jafkVM-jnbE
Great advice from the Vice President: "Get a double-barrel shotgun, Just go
out on the porch and fire two blasts outside of the house..."
And the people's responses are just as good.
http://youtu.be/5EvG9-wf-DA
http://youtu.be/S4VDxj4pPwQ |
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 48 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: Commissar (内务人民委员柯密同志), 信区: USANews
标 题: 禁‘assault weapons"没用吧?凶手用shotgun和.38 revolver
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 18 16:37:21 2018, 美东)
禁什么大容量弹夹也没用。不常练习，不参加射击训练班的根本不懂。除非全部禁枪，
shotgun和.38 revolvers（一般6发）几乎不可能出现在任何禁枪法案上。其实经常训
练的人，就是用19世纪的level action rifles和single action revolvers照样可以造
成极大伤亡。要记得历史第一起校园枪击，凶手是用一支普通栓动猎枪，最常见的
Remington 700，造成极大伤亡。 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 49 So the other night, this would be Tuesday while the majority of the Texas
political press were locked out, the Wendy Davis campaign thought it would
be a good idea to make their candidate look more “badass.”
This is the unfortunate result.
Holding a firearm and looking good isn’t generally a difficult thing to do.
Say what want about Ann Richards, and I was certainly no fan, but at least
she knew how to hold a shotgun without looking silly. She looks pretty beast
here. She looks like someone who... 阅读全帖 |
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