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m*******r
发帖数: 37
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 气枪可以装消声器么?
1. you need a license for it based on what i read.
2. QB78 has no thread for suppressor. what you can use is resin to glue it
on to your barrel.
3. you can find people to help you on shrouded barrel from Hetzer's link,
but in my memory, it is pretty expensive.
4. but i do see lots of people showing their self-made suppressor in youtube
. some of them are just kids. that makes me very confuse
t******y
发帖数: 5040
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 想买气枪, 大家推荐推荐
前面162楼有兄弟说“消音器自制就行了”,那可不行!你要真做了,你可能就有大麻
烦了!
在米国,用消音器的人,非奸即盗,一准没有好事。所以,需要专门买执照才可以拥有
。你要自装,麻烦就来了。你争辩是没有用的,ATF的方法是把那玩意装到枪上,如果
证明减低了多少分贝的音,您老先生的罪名就坐实了。
大家回头去看看Talon SS为什么要搞一个罩住全枪管的东东(shroud)来降低枪口爆音
?你说他是钻法律的漏掉也成,反正,它的确降低了枪口爆音,第二ATF找不到你的麻
烦,这就成了。
T*R
发帖数: 25894
3
来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 日本人V5~
细节上真是一点儿也不差,连barrel shroud上的小孔和receiver上冲压出来的凹凸都是一模一样。比天朝和棒子水平不知道高到哪里去了。严谨的精神确实值得学习。
l***a
发帖数: 2677
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T3的枪栓是不是没有卸压孔?没有的话炸膛时bolt shroud可能会飞出来打到你脸上
f****a
发帖数: 4708
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 新装了个AR下半身
对啊,那么邪恶的barrel shroud。
p*******f
发帖数: 521
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这也是我想买Marauder的一个重要原因.
Marauder有build-in shroud, 据说声音很小.(PA分类为2-Low-Medium)
我现在的.22 是3-Medium, 虽说不是太响,总是有点担心.
Discovery 是4-Medium-High, 可能很响吧.
k*****G
发帖数: 697
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那就多扯两句:
要Decock,两个条件,hammer击发方式加hammer外置(手能摸着)。
所以非hammer击发(比如Glock Striker)或者hammer内置(shrouded hammer, S&W
642 ),无法Decock,直接dry fire。
SA, SA/DA 之类一般revolver & pistol, thumb decock就可以,例外就是1911,枪店
小二的话就是1911 is not supposed to be decocked. 带一支.45,机锤大开的1911会
不会心里打颤?
.22一般也不能靠dry fire来decock, instructor的原话是:.22 fire pin hits the edge of ammo, dry fire will hurt the fire pin......
有decocker的pistol直接接下,听见hammer重重的响一下,就不见bullet飞出来,哈哈
.........
w*********r
发帖数: 1250
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 去哪里打气枪呢?
快爸兄,这里说的“可以加消音器”似乎有点误导。
美国私人持有消音器应该是非法的,哪个州都不行。至于有些气枪带有消音的设计,那
另当别论。例如Benjamin Marauder全包覆式的枪管(Shroud),或者有些枪口停止器(
Muzzle Brake)设计成有一定消音功能。我感觉消音器在美国有点灰色地带。
不过这个东东,还是不碰为妙。
f****a
发帖数: 4708
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 最后从了Daniel Defense V5 LW 5.56
改叫barrel shroud吧。
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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有的是LEO only, 有的是假的(实际上就是个barrel shroud)
m****s
发帖数: 10867
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我见过的大多都是barrel shroud,好像消音器不会这么大摇大摆的摆出来的
x*7
发帖数: 11281
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copy/paste,后面的讨论很精彩,值得注册了慢慢看
http://www.small-arms.org/showtopic.aspx?topicid=141406
我的Tikka,前一阵子突然发现枪栓尾帽(Bolt Shroud)破了,裂成了两半。我凑合着
用胶水粘好了,又装回去,结果就空枪击发了一下,震动马上又让它裂成了两半。
看来用胶水是不可取了。一定要换一个。Tikka现在在美国归伯莱塔管了,我给他们发
信问了一下,回信说可以去Brownells网站去买,我去看了一下,还真有,不过价钱挺
贵,要40多美元,而且现在没货。
后来上网搜了一下,发现也有不少人遇到同样的问题,其中有个人用的还是223口径的
Tikka,也出现了枪栓尾帽裂开的问题。
后来又看了一下网上很多人对于Tikka的评论,基本上比较一致。就是:优点呢,首先
,这个枪很准,没的说的。其次,价钱不贵;再者,轻便。
缺点呢,也是很明显,塑料部件太多,不够结实。
还有人说Tikka的recoil lug不是焊上的,也不是一体的,比较容易出问题。有人说看
到一个Tikka的recoil lug干脆就掉下来了。
还有人说... 阅读全帖
C*******d
发帖数: 15836
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - Saiga12 还是 Benelli M4
这个是我抓来的,感觉比较的比较全面:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229986
The Model 500 is the "budget" Mossberg.
The 590 series is the beefed-up and "enhanced" Military and Police version.
The Model 500 is available in a wide variety of options including 5 shot or
long 8 shot magazines, and choices in wood or synthetic stocks, pistol grip-
only grips, and other options.
The Model 500 usually has a commercial type blued finish on the steel and a
shiny finish on the aluminum receiver.
The Model ... 阅读全帖
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 又在圣诞树上挂了点MAGPUL的东东
我觉得这个是前后平衡的问题, medium profile? machinegun?枪管, 四面导轨(还
有一段延长的)+手电+bipod, 一头沉啊。一只手拿着能舒服才怪
从来没练过长时间一只手端步枪(没有AR), 但我经常练Mossberg 590(20"枪管/8+1
, 枪管上还有个barrel shroud)weak hand reload/combat reload. 目前的setup就不
太平衡, 前面太重, 而握把还是rifle grip。
pistol grip则可以把重心稍微往前挪并且改变手掌和手指的受力方向, 但mossberg用
pistol grip就没了优势, 所以把管子和弹仓缩短到16“/6+1就容易操纵得多了。
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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because a stock that can retract puts too much power in civilian hands.
Only navy seals are allowed to do that.
The same goes foe barrel shroud,"high capacity assault clips" and cop killer
bullets.
b*****e
发帖数: 5133
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - Buck 110回国成功记
你不会不知道全世界大妈都有这普遍现象吧。大妈们是瞎操心管闲事的中间力量,混得
好些的就会变成Carolyn McCarthy这样连barrel shroud都不知道是何物的人就想要来
管我们的枪。
b******o
发帖数: 5644
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 又长草了,stag arm?
今天看见stag arm有plus package,弥补了了很多atag arm的不足,又动摇了。反正又
不是去伊拉克阿富汗...
Stag Arms standard carbines (Model 1, 2, 2T, 3, 8 and their left-handed
equivalents) feature:
- Carpenter 158 shot peened Bolt with black extractor spring
- Shrouded full circle AR15 bolt carrier with side staked carrier key
- 5.56 NATO chambered barrel with chrome lining, 1/9 twist, double lead
lapped, and parkerized under the front sight base
- M4 feed ramps
- F marked front sight base with taper pins
- Double heatshield handgua... 阅读全帖
x*7
发帖数: 11281
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - [水]白宫旁边那个大坑刚刚填上了
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-big-dig-wr
White House Big Dig wraps up, but the project remains shrouded in mystery
After nearly two years and $86 million worth of major construction, the West
Wing of the White House appears unchanged regardless of whatever has been
built deep underground.
m********a
发帖数: 1312
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 话说Federal Assault Weapons Ban
斑竹刀下留人,我只是想问一下各位老枪,当年这个Ban都是啥内容。咱都讲究防患意
识,一旦真的再来一个assault weapon ban,都有哪些东西会禁售,在最后通过前是否
会彻底脱销。
wiki了一下 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Weapons_Ban
发现上面许多条款跟我们NJ现在的说法也差不太多,除了可能ban更多牌子。
Criteria of an assault weapon
Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to
firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are
fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as '
full-auto', is not required for classification as an assau... 阅读全帖
H****r
发帖数: 16240
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 借人气呼吁一下,规范用语
——子曰:必也正名乎!
这点很有趣;在汉语和英语环境里面,供弹机构在口语中的混淆都成了一种常见现象。
是不是和其历史演进有关系?
英语里,时常可以见到有人张口闭口"clip",然后被人嘲笑。
最著名的是这一段:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U
臭名昭著的反枪政客Carolyn McCarthy在20来秒时候的"high capacity clips"已经是
笑谈了,"barrel shroud"之类也很有意思,但和本主题关系不大,以后再说。
什么是clip呢?
看这几张图:
http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40202&d
以及这段录像:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF21sihEgOU
同样在汉语里,很多人习惯性的就管枪上插的那个供弹装置叫做“弹夹”。
实际上,clip多见于早期中心发火枪械上,中文为“弹夹”。
最常见的叫做stripper cli... 阅读全帖
m********a
发帖数: 1312
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - ebay上居然在卖Assault Weapon AR15 (转载)
看这个Q&A,差点在办公室笑喷了。Assault Rock属于Gear一种,不算跑题。
Q: Can this Assault Rock be submerged for the hydrographics painting
process? I'd like to have it painted multicam to match my plate carrier.
Jan-10-13
A: I am caveman. I speak small words.
Q: Do I need a CRP (concealed rock permit) to carry this device
concealed in Virginia? Jan-10-13
A: Rock Crawlers are exempt from CRP.
Q: Just for truth in lending purposes I have to tell you that it
appears to me to be a Quartz Congl... 阅读全帖
d*******s
发帖数: 15155
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - ebay上居然在卖Assault Weapon AR15 (转载)
咳,你咋转回来了,我发过去调戏伪liberal的。
看回复里顺便调侃了一下shrouded barrel,哈哈
the "shoulder thing that goes up"
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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勃朗宁就是有先见之明, 又细又长的barrel shroud, 最适合thumb over bore, 而且
还是下抛壳, 照顾左撇子和CQB换手。
s**o
发帖数: 340
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 新Tikka T3 Lite, 30-06,$340, 值得买么?
T3的做工太偷工减料,主要的受力部件Recoil lug竟然是用铝合金做的,后坐力作用下
会变形,Sako的是钢制的,所以不要说软点也够用了。好处是出来年头多了,有一定
规模的配件市场。比如那个塑料的bolt shroud打裂了,可以花几十美金换成金属的,
还可以花钱把recil lug换了。
现在美国几家大厂,都按T3的成功经验生产廉价猎枪,Savage Axis, Remington 783,
Ruger American,Marlin x7等,精度都不错,两百多就能买到。T3那个三发一个MOA,
很多猎枪都能做到,现在已经不是多年前信息闭塞的年代,T3可以走下神坛了,这枪卖
三百物有所值,五百多就是宰客了
w*****o
发帖数: 1806
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考虑接下来一阵主打.22,前几天从CDNN抢的,意大利原装货,made by Pietta,
imported under PUMA. Cost是$299 + 19.99 shipping.
MSRP $589. 一高兴抢了两支, 一黑一绿。 昨天刚从FFL拿出来。 但是LP坚决拒绝接
受我的兴趣培养行动......所以打算只留一支啦。 版上兄弟有要的么? 有就原价转了
,不过一定要过一下FFL。外地寄到也可以,不过本地最好。 半自动,mag是30发的,
包括前导轨和前握把,喜欢他的shrouded barrel. 都是全新的,照片懒得拍了。 就是
如图的wildcat版。 pm。
g****r
发帖数: 1607
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 照片:我的四管枪
不会,气枪枪管要细多了,这个枪外面有个shroud, 消音用的,所以看起来粗
s**o
发帖数: 340
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 版上有tikka的同学请进
三十刀的不锈钢recoil lug,五十刀的bolt shroud,加上运费快一百刀了,够坑爹
s**o
发帖数: 340
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 版上有tikka的同学请进
我只是评论一下配件的价格,一个看似便宜的枪,弄一下就不便宜了。你不必激动,我
什么时候说过Sako吗
T3最需要换的就是个塑料的bolt shroud,否则打穿底火或者弹壳head separation时,
高温高压火药会直冲那个塑料罩,能不能挡住我看悬,挡不住就是火药气体加塑料罩碎
片直喷射手的眼睛,颇有点反坦克用的金属射流甲弹的意思
z****2
发帖数: 119
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - S&W 642 vs. Ruger LCR
不好意思,随便查了一下还以为是pistol。说起来bodyguard就是638是吗?638我还打
过,感觉和642非常相似,扳机要比LCR重些。唯一的区别就是638是shrouded hammer,
单双动。642和LCR是hidden hammer,只有双动。638唯一的一点小担心是有人说有可能
hammer会被异物卡住。
现在LCR打了几百发出去,感觉就是recoil比semi更明显。因为枪轻,不会吸能,打完
虎口都会疼。打完.38+P再打几发9mm感觉就太舒服了,recoil完全不在一个等级。
t*****i
发帖数: 668
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Boise State president criticizes BCS
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1153
Associated Press
BOISE, Idaho -- Boise State President Bob Kustra is taking another swing at
the
Bowl Championship Series, this time condemning the system that determines
the
national championship and other postseason games for being allowed to
operate
under a shroud of secrecy.
Kustra dashed off an e-mail to fellow university presidents and conference
commissioners Tuesday, one day after analysts discovered an error in the
final BCS
r... 阅读全帖
H*****r
发帖数: 764
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KNOXVILLE -- One of the most important developments in the University of
Tennessee's lengthy case with the NCAA was former coach Lane Kiffin
receiving a failure-to-monitor charge instead of the Volunteers' football
program.
The university's response to the NCAA, which UT released to the Times Free
Press on Monday, explained the details of why Kiffin, who left UT for
Southern Cal after one season, was given the charge. After receiving the
NCAA's Notice of Allegations in February, UT formally resp... 阅读全帖
G****e
发帖数: 11198
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来自主题: NCAA版 - Ohio 的违反NCAA记录最多
Fast forward 10 years, and a shroud of secrecy surrounds Ohio State's
records of violations.
In the summer of 2002, Derek Morris arrived in town from North Carolina as
one of the country's top football recruits. He left Columbus weeks later
with rumors circulating that he didn't have the necessary academic
credentials to play football.
Records show that boosters, coaches and members of the Touchdown Club of
Columbus gave Morris and his family:
• At least $1,175 in cash.
• Help securi... 阅读全帖
n***s
发帖数: 1257
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最近几次被删贴,虽然表面被说用词不妥(这次一句不说删得不留痕迹),其实根本原
因是说了不合他们意的话。
相反,他们的编辑(Jason Marsteller)以十多年前的兴奋剂事件作为理由,允许读者没
有事实根据的随意诽谤凡是游出好成绩的中国运动员http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/25711.asp:
“We do not allow unfounded allegations of doping within the comment fields
here at Swimming World. However, there are two cases where we allow some
leeway, and they deal with China and Germany.
The reasoning behind this is that both of these countries engaged in
systematic doping, and were caught doing so.
If a count... 阅读全帖
x********o
发帖数: 3525
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来自主题: Travel版 - 大家推荐个show 吧- Las vegas
Top 10 Free things to do in Las Vegas
Yes! There are a lot of things to do for free in Las Vegas. Casinos are
competing with each other to attract customers. To lure people into their
casino, they are willing to spend lots of money on free attractions. This is
one of the things that makes Las Vegas the greatest place on earth to be
entertained without spending any money.
Top 10 things to do in vegas
1. Bellagio Light and Water Fountain Show
Sitting out on the patio of some of Las Vegas's finest ... 阅读全帖
p****s
发帖数: 32405
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来自主题: TVGame版 - sc2 collector edition价钱真高
Rumors of a "World of Starcraft" were jettisoned this week when a Blizzard Entertainment representative revealed that the company's next MMOG (massively multiplayer online game) will be based on an entirely new franchise.
When it is finally released, the new, mystery-shrouded game will end the company's 11-year elaboration of its three mainstay franchises: Starcraft, Warcraft, and Diablo.
On Tuesday, Blizzard rep "Zarhym" posted on the World of Warcraft forums that the new MMOG was already under
id
发帖数: 253
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来自主题: TVGame版 - steam winter sales没看到啥好买的

推荐几个indie的游戏:
Deadnaut:这个还没玩, 看介绍是我的菜。。。以后慢慢琢磨, 不好玩就退了。
D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die -Season One-: 这个玩了一会, 好像很像life is
strange, 不过大多数都是在QTE。
60 Seconds!: 玩了会儿,感觉比较简单, 估计会退货。
Subnautica: 这个游戏不错, 不过还是early access。
Dex: 一直想买个关于cyberpunk的游戏, 但没买, 现在买了, 看了看, 还行,
2D的打架加上不少RPG元素。
Spider: Rite of the Shrouded Moon: 这个小游戏不错, 很适合打发时间。
Renowned Explorers: 这个游戏看上去简单, 其实不然, 好多因素要琢磨, 不过很
好玩, 有过去玩CIV时放不开手的感觉。
现在我大作基本都是cdkey或g2a买了, indie的也基本bundle买了, 有的indie小游戏
bundle没有, 那就在steam sale时入了。
j*****g
发帖数: 622
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来自主题: CouchPotato版 - Bran和Rickon整个一季都没有出现啊!

应该没死吧,根据那个prophecy,
"Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds," she said. "And when
your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your
pale white throat and choke the life from you."
但myrcella怎么能戴上王冠就不清楚了。
b*s
发帖数: 82482
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“The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you,
to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in
tears, and to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters.”

杀人掠妻的事你做的出来么。。。就知道抬杠。。。
b*s
发帖数: 82482
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“The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you,
to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in
tears, and to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters.”
16 million,呵呵……

寒窑连老婆都找不到
n******8
发帖数: 558
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Once upon a time
Once upon a time,
I stepped on half a dime.
For the other half, I searched the playground,
but wished for a pound.
I stumbled and so flied the half dime,
in a curve ended in a lily pound.
I heard giggles as resonating as chime,
before I turned my body around.
It is the girl from my neighbor,
in her hands a snow-white lily flower.
She shrouded me with a smell of thyme,
and left on my bruised lips a taste of lime.
开头是儿歌, 英文版, 我在马路边捡到1分钱, 多了点, 5分钱 :D
k****t
发帖数: 12697
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 这个2B 用户异想天开悲剧了
Hi:
I have received the lens and it is exactly as described, nice piece of kit.
So
I just want you to know that the rest of the story is my own and none of
your
fault.
It so happens that I have a very good Pentax K to Canon EOS adapter and when
I
saw the Rokkor for Pentax K and I saw that you had shaved the back element
shroud so that it clears the Pentax K mirror, I thought, oh, cool, I will
get
this lens, install it with my Pentax K adapter to EOS on my 5D and
everything
will be cool. It will ... 阅读全帖
z**n
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 耶穌基督在印度西藏足跡的追尋
馮 馮
前言:
本文的目的不在於尊佛抑耶,而在於佛耶同尊,並且祝陡鞔笞诮谈用芮泻献鳎纹
碜诮讨g勿再有人互相貶斥攻擊。
佛教主張慈悲佈施,耶穌主張博愛施予,伊斯蘭教亦主張人類都是兄弟應該互相敬愛應
分享施予,儒家主張先天下之憂而憂,老吾老與及人之老,幼吾幼以及人之幼,道家主
張憂難互助……各教都主張孝敬父母尊長,基本上,都是相近的,大同小異而已,為什
麼要生分別之心?為什麼要互相水火?只可說是宗教的本來善意,已被部份人士曲解了
吧!
耶穌說:「天國在你心中」「施予的比受的人更有福」「愛你的親人也愛你的敵人」「
信主得永生。 」
佛陀說:「心淨則佛土淨」「六度萬行,佈施為先 」「怨親平等」「一心稱念阿彌陀
佛,得生樂土」
從這些熟知的經句,不就已經可證佛耶兩教的密切關係了嗎?如果研究深入下去,就會
發現更多的共同點。真理都是相同的,只有緣份不同。
基督教的聖經新約全書,以四大福音稱為基礎,四大福音書,是耶穌基督的及
身親信門徒馬太、路加、約翰、馬可等四位聖徒所寫,記錄下耶穌的言行及寶訓事蹟,
基督教學者與歷史學者公認四福音書是各聖徒親近耶穌的第一手資料,絕對可靠可信,
寫... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 Gay_Criminolgy 俱乐部 】
发信人: msgc (为了下一代免遭变态残害), 信区: Gay_Criminolgy
标 题: Homosexual Couples and Domestic Violence
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jan 1 09:50:10 2013, 美东)
Homosexual Couples and Domestic Violence
A study by the Canadian government states that "violence was twice as common
among homosexual couples compared with heterosexual couples".[1]
In regards to homosexual couples and domestic violence, studies indicate
that as a whole homosexual couples have higher rates of promiscuity than
het... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: WebRadio版 - 5首英俳
以前在别的版发过的,在这儿重新贴一下,算是拜山吧~~
大文豪们轻拍哦
Fog takes him from sight
Lonely road curves, then pure white
Tears freeze on the eave
Burning wood crackles
Vapor dances on my tea
Winter chill shrouds me
How I envy you
Chirping parrots; I'm a bird
Alone in the cold
O ye frozen hills
Kindly do pledge: Bring him back
When the prairie blooms
The void in my heart
I'll seal with snow, till his kiss
Makes me whole again
T****e
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来自主题: WebRadio版 - 5首英俳
雾把他从我的视线里绑架走了
寂寞的道路象蛇,连着远方大片的白
屋檐上谁的眼泪,成冰成雨
Fog takes him from sight
Lonely road curves, then pure white
Tears freeze on the eave
燃木声劈啪
热气荡我茶
冬寒裹我纱
Burning wood crackles
Vapor dances on my tea
Winter chill shrouds me
红嘴绿毛的一对鹦哥
慕煞了我
我是寒冷世界里的一只独鸟
How I envy you
Chirping parrots; I'm a bird
Alone in the cold
寒山同学
你要向我起誓:草原花开的时候
你就把他带回来(盗亦有道,撕票不好)
O ye frozen hills
Kindly do pledge: Bring him back
When the prairie blooms
玻璃心上的小口子
我要用雪把它细细封上,直到一个KISS
让我再一次变得有营养起来
The void in my heart
I'll seal with s... 阅读全帖
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