y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 1 周日第一次跟俱乐部出门野外滑雪，目的地是snoqualmie pass附近的Wright Mountain
。海拔5430英尺，起点在Alpental，途径雪湖和宝石湖两个高山湖泊，全程不到10
mile，海拔高度变化超过3000英尺。从山顶下来的六七百英尺很爽，雪很厚滑起来很舒
服。
几点感受：
1. ski touring和一般的climb/hike时间安排上还是有差别的。要照顾雪况不能出发太
早，时间上也稍微宽裕点。我们8点半出发，两点来钟登顶，在湖边吃饭休息三点多天
都不怎么亮了才往回走。我是有点担心时间不够，不过看领队一点也不着急。后来发现
ski descent就是快，在trail上来的时候走了两三个小时回去一路滑到停车场半小时都
不到。
2.我们的路线要穿越雪湖。因为前一阵子气温较高，有点担心湖面没有完全冻住。领队
说只要上面的雪超过六寸，滑雪板踩上去应该没问题。我们还是选择了最短的穿越路径
，并且队伍分散开。每个人都把包上的带子解开，万一掉到湖里能把包直接扔掉。有人
连靴子上的扣子都全打开了，打算掉下去就直接把靴子踢掉。不过我边走边想，要是真
掉下去了还真很难把脚上的雪... 阅读全帖 |
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c****u
发帖数: 584 | 2 There are too many skis to choose from. K2, Rossie, Volkl, Atomic, Dynaster,
Fisher, Elan, Salomon... Let's share our experience with those skis.
My first one is K2-3. Typical beginner's ski, easy carving, but extremely
unstable at high speed.
Second one is Salomon Axedo 7. I felt terrible on them. Narrow bodys, shallow
side cut made them very tough to start turning.
I am using a pair of Volkl Supersport 4 star. Great skis, nimble and stable.
Hu |
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b*********s
发帖数: 3863 | 3 http://www.sportsknee.com/sports.htm
Ski fitness and conditioning
Do not try to ski yourself into shape. Be in shape before you get to the top
of the mountain. Poor fitness and conditioning are major contributing factors
of ski injuries. Prepare months before your planned ski trip with a good
strengthening and conditioning program. One should utilize aerobic and
stretching exercise which targets the hip and thigh muscles such as cycling,
StairMaster, step aerobics and swimming. Weight training, |
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b*********s
发帖数: 3863 | 4 Helmet and equipment to protect your knees.
Also watch out for others is very important.Defensive skiiing.
During the ski season, more attention is paid to helmets. Experts agree that
wearing helmets isn't a bad idea, however, head injuries account for only 2.6
percent of serious ski injuries. A far more serious problem is knee injuries:
About 1 in 3 ski injuries are to the knee.
In fact, in 1997, there were about 54 million skier visits to ski areas, and
about 135,000 people suffered injuries. |
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b****s
发帖数: 472 | 5 (thanks for qaz and XX)
1144 Ski Run Blvd., South Lake Tahoe, California
$20 for performance ski/day
I've got a bunch of $5 off performance/demo ski coupons,
which makes the total cost $15/day
Let me know if you want some
when you rent your ski, ask for coupons and bring them back |
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b******r
发帖数: 1137 | 6 I have K2 5500 (188) + Salomon S912, and Dynastar SC9 (178) + Look P12. 5500
is beginner-intermediate level ski. I do feel its vibration is quite big on
high speed and jump landing. SC9 is more stiff, but fits my level very well.
it's perfect for New England's icy terrain:) skiing on more advanced skis do
make you feel tired more easily, both because of the stiffness and weight.
it's a trade-off for control. my opinion is that skis don't differ too much,
well, in the same category (comparin |
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Y****6
发帖数: 1235 | 7 attack the steeps:
1. lean forward; it'll feel like you're going ass over teakettle, but an
aggressive lean prevents your skis from skidding out from under you. that
forward thrust puts your weight on your edges, letting you dig in
2. weight and angulate; think 60-40 for weight on your downhill ski
compared to your uphill ski. Keep your knees flexed and point your
shoulders down the fall line, where you should be looking
3. steady now; keep your upper body quiet and arms out in front of you |
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 8 数了数今天晚上是第10次去滑雪。
我今天才发现以前的ski是太短了。前几次都是146cm的，上两次都是153cm，今天试了一
下160cm的，感觉好多了。不光是速度快时稳定性好了，连转弯都觉得轻松很多。奇怪，
长的ski应该转弯困难点不是吗？（我170cm，目前175lb，减肥中。。。）
今天攒了一下RP，前面有个人摔伤了，我拦住一个人让他下去通知ski patrol，然后坐
下来陪伤者聊天，一直等到ski patrol来把她用雪橇拖下山。下来就把patrol的号码记
手机里了，但愿以后用不着。
今天又试了一下那里的黑道，觉得光陡坡问题倒是不大，mogul还是不行，林子不敢试
，慢慢来吧。 |
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d*******d
发帖数: 3382 | 9 买了ski for $179
ski: K2 Comanche
binding: 不记得detail,原价$69
poles: 不记得detail
还没买到合适的boots，ski没有打孔。这副ski怎么样？我买了两年的service，wax,
check之类的，有没有必要？ |
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B*******a
发帖数: 410 | 10 我在chicago，基本都去wisconsin的雪场，现在水平是wi的雪场黑道都可以滑，上个周
末去了granite peak，练了一下跳台，摔得不轻~~~哈哈。本人6ft,165-170lb，本周想
买套装备，不知道有什么讲究的阿？现在快期末考试了，没时间仔细研究，各位大虾帮
忙出出主意阿~~~谢谢
ski的长短很有讲究对不对？我感觉原来租的ski短的速度快，但控制不好，长一点的就
好控制些，所以我prefer长一点的ski，不知道这种说法对不对？ski,boots,binding,
pole的牌子呢？我的预算是一套最好不超过300，最多400。不知道需不需要去local店
里去买，网上呢？最近ebay有30% cashback，在ebay上买装备可行吗？有没有好的店家
推荐的？
多谢多谢~~~~另，怎么发包子？ |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 11 You are a pretty tall guy, and seems pretty experienced, so for super-cut (
shaped) skis get a pair of 170s.
In general skis aren't that big of a deal, the order of importance should be
(from most important to least):
1) BOOTS
2) BOOTS
3) BOOTS
4) Bindings
5) Bindings
6) Skis
Did I mention that a good pair of BOOTS is the most important? :)
Whatever is the *closest* to your feet, is the most important.
Boot > Binding > Ski
Make sure you pick a pair of comfy, form-fitting boot. You will be abl |
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e*******e
发帖数: 1837 | 12 Park skis are softer than carving skis, which means they don't hold their
edge as well on packed-steep/high speed. Go demo a few pairs and see if you
like them.Personally I prefer softer skis since I don't ski on packed runs
much. |
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 13 I have a pair of carving skis (dynastar contact 10) and a pair of twin tip
park skis (nordica super charge ignition). I end up skiing on the twip tip
most of the time although I don't do any park stuff. The park skis perform
reasonably well on crud and powder.
you |
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p*******g
发帖数: 52 | 14 一直在本版潜水。感觉版上的网友似乎都是中西部的，似乎也都互相挺熟。第一次在本
版发帖，想买ski和
boots了。想请教大家。
我是在东北美滑雪，其实只有两年，用的是ski。对滑雪是从最初的畏惧但现在的喜爱
。第一次滑雪是一个人在
蓝道的山顶，最后是人家开着雪地车给我接下去的，非常非常丢人。后来就认识到，如
果克服了坡度上的心理障
碍，基本上黑道和双黑道就不有太大问题。关键在于怎么掌握正确的基本技巧，我认为
这也是高手和一般人的重
要区别，所以即使是在绿道也都能区分水平。我看了一些滑雪教学视频，他们有的四五
个人一起滑就像跳舞一
样，非常又没，我认为这才是滑雪的一个较高的境界。
现在正在努力学习最基本的转弯等技巧，感觉离熟练还差得很远，仅仅是速度快时心里
不再害怕，能很好的
stop和转弯，动作却不完美。希望能和大家交流交流。
当然本贴主要目的是要买ski 和boots想请教版上的高手（自己在这方面是个文盲，本
版的精华区看了两遍，
但是感觉帮助不大）。我的滑雪水平如上所述，身高168cm。想买个intermediate 的
ski。另外东北部滑雪
都知道冰是个大问题。所以，滑雪板选择 |
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w******y
发帖数: 2504 | 15 I just had my new skis adjusted. To be honest, it is really necessary.
Because they can adjust your bindings according to your ski level, your
height and weight. I am a little bit "Hou Lianpi", so I negociated with the
guy to wax my skis without fee, because the adjustment cost me 20$. Haha. Go
skiing this weekend, cannot wait any longer. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 16 alot skiers are very good at golf as well, say bode miller
and alot of golfers are good at skiing too, example, davis love III
bode miller is morning ski, afternoon golf
davis love is summer golf, winter snowboard.
wish i could sat. golf, sunday ski/board //kaka |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 17 我的中级到高级的ski相对软些，可以跳跃的，我的all mountain的ski要硬，我穿All
mountain的跳，太搞笑了，落地时就感觉一震，ski自动脱开boots，两个ski留在了原
地，我自己向前趴下了。。。。。。希望固定器和板别损坏了，想着要不要送去检查一下 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 18 "ski school again"? 你看过"ski school"了？ 谈谈观后感，
找不到ski school again, 你试一下检索“ski school 2" |
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x***k
发帖数: 3311 | 19 INTRODUCTION:
You know you are an old fart (forgive my language, I'm trying to keep it
PG13 so my daughter could read it too) when a dude, from the mitbbs.com/ski
group skiing in Utah in Feb 2009, told you that his dad came to the States
in early 80s too. In your face, dude, ouch…
NEW KID ON THE BLOCK:
Coming from Beijing to the University of Utah in 1986, as a good skater (冰
上小痞子), my Beijing buddy decided to take me skiing in the second winter.
Skiing?! What was that? I only vaguely remembe |
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s******a
发帖数: 317 | 20
ski
.
income
A delightful read, looks like we all have that first time buddy who took(
trick) us to the top of the mountain on our first time, and let us find our
own way back to the bottom. Not sure about your buddy, but my early skiing
days' buddies are all goner now(not skiing anymore). Fortunately,I am now
surrounded with other old guns, couple of them even have a criminal record
as long as you... great job, keep up the skiing and writing... |
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d******a
发帖数: 106 | 21 I am by no means good in the bumps, but I enjoy working on getting better in
it.
If you are going to be spending ALL of your time in the bumps, go with the
twister or the rebellion, they are mogul specific skis (assuming the twister
is the twister mogul version.)
I have the legend 8000 skis. They are relatively stiff and wide for the
purpose of skiing the moguls. But they are excellent, excellent all mountain
skis. Super stable, take on any terran, damp, can't say enough good things
about them. |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 22 我不是这个意思，你不用主观臆断
没做过的事情可以讨论，不过不能像自己做过一样拿出来给别人当经验用。
这个条件下你要非说能ski，那是没问题，不过没什么乐趣
两年前我们去rainier camp muir的时候，比你照片里雪还多，但是中间有很多段都是
露出来石头，尤其是在panorama point和pebble creek之间，只能脱下ski走，穿着ski
boots，扛着ski，从碎石坡上下山并不容易。 同去的有snowboarder，也一样难走。
最后我们从camp muir滑下来，总共用的时间比别人走下来都长。
这样的condition实际上并没有太多的乐趣，要想能够直接滑下来，雪要多很多才行，
如果都到了露台阶的地步，基本上就是这个状况了
过， |
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 23 i suggest buying the boots at local shop first. look for the last year
models which usually come with at least 30% off up to 50% off discount. A
shop with good bootfitting service is the way to go.
if you know what kind of ski you are going to buy, then just figure out the
less expensive way to get it. used demo ski could be an option. you may find
it in ski shops near major ski area or ebay.
boots |
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s******a
发帖数: 317 | 24 我的看图理解是on-piste range 70~85, avg 80， 正如爱动兄所说，趋势是向宽走。
但这个趋势的对象是非竞赛型雪板。竞赛型雪板（不包括mogul, ski jump, ski cross
)应该还是停留在72之下。
本杂志是针对消费者， 因此突出向宽走这个趋势， 所以all-moutain(这个杂志标准是
70% piste, 30% off piste) 腰宽80不过分。
轮胎当中有四季胎，四季胎也叫四季都不太灵的轮胎。个人觉得all-mountain ski也有
在各种雪况都不太灵的嫌疑（本人是all-mountain ski 的长期拥护者）。现在感觉还
是要专，两付板分工要明确，on-piste 75 以下，off-piste 85左右（根据当地学况酌
定）。纯属个人意见。 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 25 Ski版09-10年有奖征文：舞动的雪世界
【征文内容】：
征文可以为文字，图片，或者录像，以记录陈述描绘您舞动的雪世界，飞驰在雪上的心
境，向往和体验，
分享您的滑雪经验。
1、文字：与滑雪有关的征文，文章为５００字以上，不含标点符号，原创。
可以为以下类别，但不限于：
1）滑雪经历和技术的文章
2）印象最深刻的滑雪经历
3）最搞笑有趣的滑雪经历
4）滑雪历险记
5）个人滑雪的一路走来的历程
6）滑雪的爱情故事，艳遇，奇遇
7）滑雪圣地介绍
8）初次滑雪经历
9）滑雪旅程食住宿行娱乐等等介绍
10）滑雪器材维护，购买心得秘诀
11）组织滑雪，团体滑雪的经历分享
2、照片：与滑雪、雪景、滑雪场有关，数码、胶片相机、手机摄影作品均可，每张图
片最好有文字说明，
5张以上，附文字2００字以上，原创。
3、录像：与滑雪有关的摄像，摄像的时间长于１-3分钟，附文字3００以上，摄像的时
间长于3分钟，附
文字1００字以上，原创。
【要求】：
1、所有征文，图片和摄像一律在未名空间Ski版原发表，标题前缀含有
【Ski版】，也就是：
【Ski版】xxxxxxx。 |
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a*****y
发帖数: 367 | 26 Binding是否费和Binding的档次以及安装是否正确有关。
如果只是那种低档的分体式的，直接mount在ski上的，容易磨损。
特例是那种mount在花样或者free ski上的分体式固定器，那个是
专门设计用来跳跃减震的，但是经常用来跳来跳去也磨损快。花样
板很多人都是一个雪季换一幅。
现在不少中高档的固定器都是Mount在垫板上的，垫板厂家已经直
接装在ski上了。这样的固定器质量要好不少，基本板子废了，固
定器还能用。
但是，但是，但是——不要用这种all mountain的固定器经常用来
跳跃，这种固定器不像Free ski bindings那样有减震装置，经常
跳会很损害固定器的。 |
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 27 this is a good start kit:
http://www.mitbbs.com/mitbbs_article.php?board=Outdoors&id=31239503&ftype=3
1. use OTG(over the glasses) type goggle or contect lens
2. Different ppl has different answer. For me, one day is for sure not
enough since I hope to ski in the rest of my life. If you worry that you
cannot ski enough before it closes, go early like 8:00 to get your equipment
rental done before the crowds.
3. ski resorts usually close at 3:30p.m. or 4:00p.m. unless it offers night
ski.
4. for g |
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k**t
发帖数: 1968 | 28 答:全都能租到.但是建议除了skis, boots, 和poles以外,还是自己买,因为租价很贵,
租几次的钱就能买了.等将来喜欢这项运动了,skis, boots, 和poles也最好自己买.
1. 带眼镜的话，goggles的话，怎么办？答: 买那种 OTG goggles.
2. 去ski一天时间够吗，他们雪场是不是差不多4，5点就关门了?
答:一天时间不够,雪场4点关.我们滑了几年了,还觉得时间不够,还在滑.:-) 如果你是
问一天时间能否学会,答案是,取决于你的期望值.
beginner package 到底有什么? 答:beginner package 里有雪票(就是lift ticket),
skis, boots 和poles.
人多的话，有没有优惠? 答:可能有.各雪场不同.这里是Sierra At Tahoe的group
tickets price:
http://www.sierraattahoe.com/info/winter/group-tickets.asp
天气会影响吗? 答:对beginner的雪道来说,不会. |
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d*****g
发帖数: 1538 | 30 其实才刚学，太急进了，下坡时冲的快，不会控制，摔了一大跤，膝盖扭得很别扭，当
时就很疼，不过还能滑下来了。晚上疼得厉害些，走路转身时更疼。不知道值不值去看
医生？我想等过一个星期如果还疼就去看。大家的经验呢？
另外，ski不是应该脱落的吗？之前摔了个小小跤，一个ski都脱了，过不多久摔了这个
厉害的，两个ski倒结结实实的还在脚上。难道得有某个特定的力的方向ski才能脱落吗？ |
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q*n
发帖数: 1203 | 31 发现对boarder来说ski还是很自然的， 基本上下意识的就知道怎么用换重心
和push downhill ski来拐弯，上下半身分离也很自然。第一天就可以试着用平行
ski从蓝道下来的。 上了两个课，还是挺有用的，知道怎么样是正确的姿势，
还有一些重要细节，比如前小腿骨要顶住boots, 上坡ski基本上不受力等等。
现在还比较不出来哪种更喜欢，第二天下午还是忍不住换上snowboard去黑道上
趁着powder练mogual和高速往下冲了几趟。 |
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n*****a
发帖数: 1327 | 32 basically you need to check the condition of the edge and base. if the skis
were kept on groomed, with proper maintain, it can last long time. also,
some skis are old style straight skis; you may want "shaped skis".
used |
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k***z
发帖数: 3522 | 34 没这么困难吧。。。
先把bingding和靴子上的雪清了，ski要往uphill的方向edge一点并且保证与坡平行（
这样你踩binding的时候不会忘下滑），先穿downhill ski再uphill ski ，用ski pole
保持平衡。
速:( |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 35 没用过这个ski，这里是更详细的说明：
The X-Wing 4 + LZ9 is a men's ski from Salomon's All Mountain X-Wing lineup.
The ski is designed with a composite core and monocoque construction,
making it lightweight, responsive, and easy to maneuver. It features a S
chassis that is 72mm wide, making it suitable for skiers that ride 80% on
piste and 20% on ungroomed terrain. The X-Wing 4 + LZ9 includes Salomon's
Lightrak binding system for improved precision and transmission performance.
The ski is recommended for av |
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w**********o
发帖数: 138 | 36 We went to SLC last season and had a blast skiing there. We skied at Alta,
Snowbird and Solitude. They are all good. We booked our hotel and lift
tickets through this web site, http://www.visitsaltlake.com/ski. The superpass is the way to go if you want to do multiple days/resorts, http://www.visitsaltlake.com/ski/superpass/.
The 4th day is free if you buy 3-day superpass and some hotels throw a 4th
night free also.
We paid $80/day for a one bed room suite at Candlewood Suites near Big/
Little C |
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s*****r
发帖数: 100 | 37 Not sure if good deal or not. Just book a trip on New year. Can be canceled
without charge.
Enjoy the sights and nearby slopes of Salt Lake City -- then relax at a 4-
star hotel for $149 per night with a four-night stay. As a bonus, guests
will also receive two ski passes per day ($130 daily value).
Travel weekends Dec. 1 through April 15. Sunday through Thursday stays are $
35 more per night.
This special also includes free transportation via Utah Transit to the
Cottonwood ski resorts just 30 m... 阅读全帖 |
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i*****r
发帖数: 454 | 38 【 以下文字转载自 Outdoors 讨论区 】
发信人: invoker (superuser), 信区: Outdoors
标 题: Warren Miller's Ski/Board Film Returns to NYC
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 19 14:43:53 2010, 美东)
YY snowing...
Date: October 19, 2553 BE 1:33:44 PM CDT
From: @aol.com
Subject: Warren Miller's Ski/Board Film Returns to NYC
To: @aol.com
Dear past attendees of our Warren Miller and Banff shows in New York:
Warren Miller’s newest 2010 film, Wintervention, comes to Symphony Space,
95th and Broadway, 6 PM and 9 PM, Saturday, November... 阅读全帖 |
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y*******o
发帖数: 6632 | 40 thank you so much for your advice.
I am 180cm and 170 pounds. But would the 170cm woman ski also design for big
American girl that around 180cm? I may be too heavy for the skis though.
That is too bad because the ski is discount at 30% original price.
I normally ski on the black slope on east side, so would 170cm be enough for
me? Thanks again. |
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k**g
发帖数: 1558 | 41 硬盒子不行吧，就算oversize了，oversize要交100usd托运。现在看来只能ski bag.问
题是够不够结实，不会把ski压断吧？
下面是UA网上找到的
Allowance/requirements
1 ski bag, containing 1 pair of skis and poles, plus 1 boot bag, containing
boots and bindings only, are allowed in place of one checked bag. |
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N**D
发帖数: 10322 | 42 Dynastar Big Trouble Limited Alpine Skis, 166cm, 124 / 92 / 114mm
and
Dynastar PX 12 Lifter Wide Ski Binding
Binding has been mounted in the ski shop, and waxed, and NEVER uesd
current setup is Type I skier and 26.5 shoe size.
You will need to find a ski shop to adjust for you
sac上买的，从来没用过， mount 之后
成本价，要seattle 附近的
谢谢 |
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s*******r
发帖数: 1285 | 43 I used to use 178 skis or even longer than 180. But modern skis do not need
to be that long. Now 170 AC50 is perfect to me. About skiing bumps, I
found that shorter skis were easier to maneuver. |
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s*******r
发帖数: 1285 | 44 OK, let me answer your question (but I am not a "Da Niu"). About the usage
of poles, it covers a lot of skills, including pole swinging, pole touching,
pole planting, ...etc. Using poles is especially important on skiing bumps
. Since you've never used poles before, I will suggest you start from pole
planting on blue trails. Your level is far away from skiing mogul trails
not even trying it. Skiing bumps is THE most difficult skill of skiing on
piste. With your level, I strongly recommend ... 阅读全帖 |
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O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 45 Dedicated to our upcoming ski trip to Utah:
Alta snow is like an improved version of air: Skiing it is flying without
leaving the ground.
By a ski magazine reader who started skiing at 3 and have skiied all over -
Squaw, Big Sky, Whistler, Jackson. |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 48 再加上昨天的雪况，是还不容易。不过也有人没跳石头啥的，直接滑下来。
是Salomon的BBR skis
"The party includes raffling BBR skis, Rocker2 skis and Alta season passes.
When skiers demo a BBR ski, they’ll get food and beverage vouchers as well
as entry into the Salomon Snow Games, featuring on-snow volleyball, tug-of-
war and three-legged races. The event will also include live music and
appearances by Salomon pro athletes, including local skier Jamey Parks. " |
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e*******r
发帖数: 1433 | 49 improve your skill with the used beginner ski the same length as your height
. When you gain confidence on all kinds of terrain, then you can try to get
new skis, which will be with you for couples of seasons. You don't want to
get rid of the new skis when your skill improved and you don't want to step
on skis with skill level requirement higher than you. |
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r********7
发帖数: 229 | 50 我感觉很好了。120/74/110，对学习carving，对付5inch以下的新雪都应该没问题了。
我的第一副是K2 apache stryker 118/74/103，在东北滑感觉90%的时候都很好。
另外我觉得买新ski的一个好处是，如果滑的不好的话没啥可以抱怨的了：）
从可以从黑道上survive下来到可以carving下蓝道，对我来说有一个huge learning
curve。因为我的是新ski,所以一直都在找自己的原因，而不是埋怨ski而想换另外的，
呵呵。
提醒一下你的这个好像有点rocker,估计是要买稍微长一些的?
我自己180cm,155lb,ski没有rocker,买的是167cm |
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