x****z 发帖数: 3473 | 1 spank 定义在此
Few issues polarize parents and caregivers as much as spanking. Everyone
believes discipline is important, but not everyone agrees on the means. In
1996 the American Academy of Pediatrics issued a statement on the subject.
Here are some of its key points:
Spanking is defined as:
physically non-injurious
intended to modify behavior
administered by an open hand to the child's arms, legs, or buttocks
Corporal punishment of children that goes beyond spanking is associated with
long-term n |
|
m****e 发帖数: 1197 | 2 来自主题: EnglishChat版 - spank There's a lot going on this week. Hope my spanks hold up...
How do you translate "Hope my spanks hold up" to chinese?
希望我能挺住? SPANK在这里的怎么直译? |
|
g****n 发帖数: 1786 | 3 http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100412/hl_time/08599198101900
Disciplining young children is one of the key jobs of any parent - most
people would have no trouble agreeing with that. But whether or not that
discipline should include spanking or other forms of corporal punishment is
a far trickier issue.
The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) does not endorse spanking for any
reason, citing its lack of long-term effectiveness as a behavior-changing
tactic. Instead the AAP supports strategies suc |
|
l****e 发帖数: 1627 | 4 you need control sample to make such a conclusion
for those so called "successful because of spanked kids"
maybe they can be even more successful without spanking
any
changing
attest, |
|
d*****r 发帖数: 39446 | 5 【此篇文章是由自动发信系统所张贴】
spank 已经成为本俱乐部的正式成员, 特此通知. |
|
d*****r 发帖数: 39446 | 6 【此篇文章是由自动发信系统所张贴】
spank 已经退出本俱乐部, 特此通知. |
|
s*****y 发帖数: 4595 | 7 just curious: most ppl in our generation got spanked when we were little,
how many developed aggressive behaviors later?
is
behavior |
|
l****e 发帖数: 1627 | 8 my sister got spanked
i didn't
we both turned out to be quite passive aggresive. :p |
|
g********n 发帖数: 2314 | 9 Spanking Laws
State by State — United States statutes as they pertaining to spanking and
child abuse.
Editors Note: This page is continually being updated. This information has
been posted here in order to allow parents to read the state statutes for
themselves and find other pertinent code sections. I could use some help. If
you have the time, please look up the code for your state and e-mail them
to me, I'll add them as soon as they come in. Thanks for any help you can
offer!
Select your state... 阅读全帖 |
|
a***o 发帖数: 54 | 10 http://kidjacked.com/legal/spanking_law.asp
Alabama
[The Code of Alabama 1975]
Parent/guardian/person responsible for care and supervision of a minor/
teacher or other person responsible for care and supervision of a minor for
a special purpose may use reasonable and appropriate physical force when and
to the extent he reasonably believes it necessary and appropriate to
maintain discipline or promote welfare of the child.
§ 13A-3-24. [Criminal Code]
[See also: Endangering welfare of child. Secti... 阅读全帖 |
|
u*****a 发帖数: 6276 | 11 貌似维州可以打!
连维州的老师都可以体罚学生。
Quote:
Over the past several years, I've seen an increase in child-abuse charges
filed against parents arising from punishment that, even as recent as ten
years ago, would have not caught the eye of a prosecutor. For all of you new
parents out there, this is something that certainly needs to be on your
radar.
To be clear, Virginia allows for “corporal punishment.” That means that
spanking and physical punishment is permitted. However, it is limited to “
reasonable” physic... 阅读全帖 |
|
t*********r 发帖数: 2 | 12 Alabama
[The Code of Alabama 1975]
Parent/guardian/person responsible for care and supervision of a minor/
teacher or other person responsible for care and supervision of a minor for
a special purpose may use reasonable and appropriate physical force when and
to the extent he reasonably believes it necessary and appropriate to
maintain discipline or promote welfare of the child.
§ 13A-3-24. [Criminal Code]
[See also: Endangering welfare of child. Section 13A-13-6]
Alaska
[Alaska Statutes]
When a... 阅读全帖 |
|
s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 13 Va. Beach man in spanking case is denied bond
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/05/va-beach-man-accused-spanking-c
The three young women first became involved with a Beach restaurateur now
facing sexual assault and abduction charges because he promised them college
scholarships, room and board and weekly allowances, they testified at a
preliminary hearing in General District Court on Thursday.
But the so-called Spencer Scholarship Program that 54-year-old Henry Allen
Fitzsimmons offered them required... 阅读全帖 |
|
s*********8 发帖数: 901 | 14 It is one of the most controversial methods of child discipline, but
spanking in school -- usually with a wooden or fiberglass paddle -- is still
allowed by law in 19 states. The practice is most prevalent in the Midwest
and South. According to a report from the Juvenile Information Exchange,
more than 28,500 students in Georgia were spanked in 2008, mostly in rural
counties. The number is much smaller in Florida -- around 3,600 last year --
but that's where the issue is getting new attention.
F... 阅读全帖 |
|
f********t 发帖数: 6999 | 15 结了婚有小孩了,找白人老头送上门SM
发信人: subgirl (subgirl), 信区: Sex
标 题: 奴隶秘书
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 3 14:46:33 2009, 美东)
(1)
他叫Daniel,一个年轻、帅气、阳光、充满着活力的Dom。
一年前,曾和他见过面。那时, 我只是曾经坐在他的车里,感受来自他的痛,和
那片刻的温馨。
他是个纯正的Dom,喜欢spanking,也许,还有其他。
我喜欢拥有这种强烈的Dom的本性的人,和他的那次见面,他只是用他的手,将我
的大腿根内侧变得绯红,而当我在他的命令下,把头埋在他的腿上休息时,我感受到了
一种呵护和温馨。
当我厌倦了围绕工具的游戏之后,我希望有一个人,会用他的方式来约束、管教我
,抑或惩罚我。
当我发现了他十分热爱Spank之后,发现了他的无比严厉之后,我是有所恐慌的。
我在enjoy的同时,开始逃离。我逃到遥不可及的地方,消失了踪迹。
(2)
再次遇到他,已经是一年之后。也许我命中注定逃脱不了他的。因为,我本来已经
小心翼翼地绕行,但终究还是落入他手。
“I want to see you... 阅读全帖 |
|
M******d 发帖数: 486 | 16 你父亲下手有点重了。
我支持对撒谎问题、教养问题和工作态度问题方面的不良行为以spanking的方式严格教
育。我认识的一个美国人家里10个兄弟姐妹全部是home schooling,而且一个比一个出
色。我曾经很好奇的问他小时候做错事的时候会不会被爸爸妈妈打屁股,他说"of
course, I got quite some good spanking!"
我儿子是一个super opinionated boy。两岁的时候因为在饭前洗手的问题上和妈妈较
真,愣是把午饭给放弃了。在我认为不可以让步的问题上,我会毫不犹豫地spank他。
我揍儿子最重的一次,是他上pre-school的第二天。到了学校,他说我走的线路不对,
不肯下车,一定要我重新再按他说的路线走一边。我给了他两个选择:第一,马上下车
去上课,下午我来接他时按他的路线走一边;第二,我们马上掉头回家,到家等待他的
就是good spanking。我问了他三遍,回答都是回家接受“good spanking”。接下来的
事你们可想而知。直到今天他还记得那次的spanking有多疼。
我不知道这里的其他爸爸妈妈是怎么想的,我的孩子必... 阅读全帖 |
|
f********t 发帖数: 6999 | 17 那个被抓的中国女人不会是买买提的subgirl吧?
结了婚有小孩了,找白人老头送上门SM
发信人: subgirl (subgirl), 信区: Sex
标 题: 奴隶秘书
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 3 14:46:33 2009, 美东)
(1)
他叫Daniel,一个年轻、帅气、阳光、充满着活力的Dom。
一年前,曾和他见过面。那时, 我只是曾经坐在他的车里,感受来自他的痛,和
那片刻的温馨。
他是个纯正的Dom,喜欢spanking,也许,还有其他。
我喜欢拥有这种强烈的Dom的本性的人,和他的那次见面,他只是用他的手,将我
的大腿根内侧变得绯红,而当我在他的命令下,把头埋在他的腿上休息时,我感受到了
一种呵护和温馨。
当我厌倦了围绕工具的游戏之后,我希望有一个人,会用他的方式来约束、管教我
,抑或惩罚我。
当我发现了他十分热爱Spank之后,发现了他的无比严厉之后,我是有所恐慌的。
我在enjoy的同时,开始逃离。我逃到遥不可及的地方,消失了踪迹。
(2)
再次遇到他,已经是一年之后。也许我命中注定逃脱不了他的。因为,我本来已经
小心翼翼地绕行,但终究... 阅读全帖 |
|
f********t 发帖数: 6999 | 18 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: fuckthrust (...), 信区: Military
标 题: 那个被抓的中国女人不会是买买提的subgirl吧?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 12 12:20:17 2013, 美东)
结了婚有小孩了,找白人老头送上门SM
发信人: subgirl (subgirl), 信区: Sex
标 题: 奴隶秘书
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 3 14:46:33 2009, 美东)
(1)
他叫Daniel,一个年轻、帅气、阳光、充满着活力的Dom。
一年前,曾和他见过面。那时, 我只是曾经坐在他的车里,感受来自他的痛,和
那片刻的温馨。
他是个纯正的Dom,喜欢spanking,也许,还有其他。
我喜欢拥有这种强烈的Dom的本性的人,和他的那次见面,他只是用他的手,将我
的大腿根内侧变得绯红,而当我在他的命令下,把头埋在他的腿上休息时,我感受到了
一种呵护和温馨。
当我厌倦了围绕工具的游戏之后,我希望有一个人,会用他的方式来约束、管教我
,抑或惩罚我。
当我发现了他十分热爱Sp... 阅读全帖 |
|
d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 19 good comments by readers, LOL, 老白就是会装, 不然在外面那么听话的小孩都是天
生的?
--------------------
RDieder Sheik Yerbouti
• 3 hours ago
Along with the cultural breakdown, these kids don't face any punishment at
home. Society has looked the other way on child discipline. I bet their
parents won't do a think let alone spank or smack them with a belt in fear
they might be reported on child abuse. There's a big difference when you
spank or smack your child with belt or shoe, vs going for pure harm. That's
discip... 阅读全帖 |
|
y***d 发帖数: 2330 | 20 大意是说,
4-7 岁,或者 black,spanking 跟之后暴力/反社会倾向减少相关
8-11 岁,或者 white,spanking 跟之后暴力/反社会倾向增加相关
对小于 6 岁的 spanking,没有发现 spanking 助长暴力
在 8-16 岁的单亲家庭,发现 spanking 助长暴力
其资料来源,”Population-based survey data from 1112 children aged 4 to 11
years in the National Survey of Families and Households. Controlled for
several family and child factors including children's baseline aggression."
,不知道是实际是什么方法。
原文看不到,
http://archpedi.highwire.org/cgi/content/abstract/151/8/768
Objective
To cha |
|
o*****e 发帖数: 354 | 21 说到打孩子,我觉得美国人是有不同程度的区分:beat 和 spank
我们好多美国同事都认可:在孩子违犯家规是,spank是必要的。但beat是禁止的。
我觉得必要的时候,小孩子挨打(spank)是可以接受的教育方式。但是父母要分清打
的部位,打屁股可以,不要打其他要害部位,而且要记住是spank的打法,不是beat的
打法。
记得一个美国同事说,现在美国小孩,很疯狂的那些,很多可能就是因为父母没有
spank过,而导致过分“自由”! |
|
h*********e 发帖数: 6997 | 22 我哪里说spanking 和衣架抽是一回事了? 请你认真理解别人的帖子。
我说的是LZ说打孩子的家长无能,这个说法有问题。
多数家长打孩子恐怕都是spanking,而不是衣架抽。
LZ观点一个比较大的弱点就是把她在幼儿园带孩子,和家长管教自己的孩子,混在一起
比较。这两个有何不同我就不多说了,光看这一点,她动幼儿园孩子一个手指头,就可
以被警察带走(而她居然拿没打过幼儿园孩子来标榜自己,有点可笑),家长spank自己
的孩子,很多地方不是非法的,甚至是对教育孩子有利。我不是说spank自己的孩子就
一定好,但从这一点看,就能看出管教别人孩子和自己孩子的不同。LZ自己没有孩子,
她对亲戚的做法不同意,可以理解,但是扩大到对其他家长的评论,就有点不自量力了。 |
|
i**e 发帖数: 19242 | 23 让孩子慢慢明白一个道理
凡事都有规矩,违规都会有consequences
如果你想用spank作为consequences的一部分,也无可厚非
spanking,只有使用过度,大多数时候成了大人的出气和发泄方式的时候,才会有很不
好的负面影响
that said
spanking itself is not enough to teach child the reasons behind NO
要不你想想natural and logical consequences吧
她把饭仍地上,你就的收拾咯
或许你可以把她继续”绑“在high chair上,看你收拾干净,作为一种惩罚/
consequences
同时想一个signal你的好办法?比如,可以用排排手?排排桌子,以引起你的注意?
孩子开口说话之后,类似的事情就好处理多了
spanking 不能教育孩子
只有通过 natural and/or logical consequences
才能让孩子内化 i choose not to behave this way
//参看隔壁”育儿讲座“楼 |
|
k******b 发帖数: 4501 | 24 嗯,看来德州的朋友也得悠着点。 这是部分内容:
But before she was let go, 214th District Court Judge Jose Longoria made it
very clear to her and everyone else that even a simple straight forward case
of spanking is a crime.
“You don’t spank children today,” said Longoria, “in the old days, maybe
we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don’t spank
children. You understand?”
Gonzales answered, “Yes, sir.”
Read |
|
o*****e 发帖数: 354 | 25 估计你是mm吧?这里说spank孩子,我感觉有很大程度上是指儿子,
通常情况下,女儿比儿子要乖巧些。男孩子在有spank可能性的压力下,则会更懂得遵
守规则。如果你有孩子后,遇到乖的儿子,应该说是福分,特别是在他小的时候;如果
你碰到一个bully儿子,你可能得考虑一下spank的了。 |
|
w********t 发帖数: 39 | 26 我家老大,2个月以后就4岁了,越来越担心他的behavior, 越来越像impulsive
ADHD。
1。 做事情不能专心,除非妈妈一直陪着。独立的完成一件任务,专注时间不能超过
5分钟。 感兴趣的东西,除了电视,游戏,其他感兴趣的东西很少。当然电视和游戏
我们是严格限制的。他说他喜欢painting,可让他自己画,如果没有我陪他画,不超过
5分钟,到处都是paint,不是draw something,而是splash。
2。 不follow direction。一样只有我的话他能听一些,因为我会和他reasoning,讲
清楚为什么要这样那样。可在学校老师不会那么有耐心,他就表现得很糟糕。不follow
direction,被老师批评,他就表现得更糟糕,发脾气,甚至打人。
3。藐视大人的权威。 我们以往以说教为主,他的爸爸更是脾气好。 结果发现他最近
特别特别有注意,常常有意地去踩我们的规定底线。这一点我们在改,开始用spanking。
4。特别爱发脾气。 比如昨天我们散步回来。在家门口他往前走了,我帮忙推了一下
他的stroller,他就发脾气丢撞掀翻stroller。 我和他谈... 阅读全帖 |
|
s*****a 发帖数: 1022 | 27 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
caterr (归与不归) 于 (Sun Apr 24 10:06:23 2011, 美东) 提到:
首先,我对自己过于激动地态度表示抱歉,伤害到了一些网友,希望大家能原谅我。其
次,我的愤怒不是针对个人,而是针对这个bbs上长久以来那种幻想通过报警解决问
题的思路,我就很不幸的是这种缺德做法的受害者。当然不是同胞害的,是white
trash.
我讲以下报警之后会发生什么吧。
社工一般是突然上门,如果家里没人才会跟你预约。
上门以后会把每个人隔离开,分头问话,都是一些正常人听了会觉得非常offens
ive的问题:有没有吸毒史,有没有酗酒,有没有精神不正常,是不是在吃药,看到
孩子不乖有没有发疯的感觉,平时说话是不是大声吼叫,你的配偶有没有精神病,有没
有吸毒,有没有酗酒等等。
我被告的不是打孩子,而且我们家孩子都太小,也不怎么会说英语(那时候),所以免
掉孩子脱衣服检查和单独盘问的过程。
全问完之后会仔细察看你家,细到每一间屋,每一个角落,任何一个可能放东西的地方
,(呵呵,还有人说社工上门没... 阅读全帖 |
|
d*********e 发帖数: 123 | 28 感谢分享!的确是很有意思的数据结果。
关于打孩子,估计是指一般意义上的spanking。其实我们在孩子淘气时都会威胁他要给
spanking。他往往就因为害怕而停止做坏事了,也就没有真的打他屁股。偶尔在给了警
告后还不改,会在他屁股上拍两下。哈哈。我估计在美国从来没被spank过的小孩子是
为数不多的。
不过如果说”对孩子将来有影响的压倒性因素”真的是“同学/朋友,学校“,那看来
还是得推娃了。从小就得上好幼儿园,之后是好学校。啊,压力大呀,呀呀呀!!! |
|
w*********e 发帖数: 383 | 29 虽然不能回答楼主的法律问题,但是可以推荐看这个:
http://www.handinhandparenting.org/news/182/64/What-s-the-Probl
解答以下问题,都是根据大量研究的:
What does spanking do to the parent?
Does spanking control a child’s behavior in the short term?
What are the long-term effects of spanking?
What is a parent to do instead?
Staylistening in action: here’s how it can work.
(staylistening 是这个非盈利家长培训中心机构的一个主打方法,经过多年的研究和
运用。) |
|
i**e 发帖数: 19242 | 30 哦
我自己是不会用spanking地,因为我知道我很容易spanking spanking 就从discipline
变成了发泄自己的不满情绪了 :)
偶大概会跟孩子说,走过的路发生过的事情是不能再改变的了,take it and move on
当然也会象你一样,做个让步,还没有发生过的事情,偶们可以打商量
如果以后孩子希望什么,最好事前提出来,事后没人能回天不是? |
|
M******d 发帖数: 486 | 31 trust me, spanking 绝对行之有效. 关键是每次要以爱的方式结束. 每次spank之后,
我一定会告诉儿子爸爸有多爱他, 他有多疼,爸爸就有多疼. 这一点儿子绝对信, 因为
每次他去打针, 或者抹那种很疼的liquid band aid, 我都是让他咬着我的胳膊, 让他
知道爸爸既share他的joy, 也share他的pain.
而且在我们家, 儿子和父母是平等的, 如果他发现爸爸干了坏事,他也可以spank爸爸.
所以儿子一直和爸爸都是好朋友. |
|
a****g 发帖数: 3027 | 32 还有讲了道理之后,要结合spank (我们州适合法的,有的州不合法)。当然spank是尽
量少用,但是有时候要必须用。我们小孩很小特别喜欢摸电源孔,最后只能靠
spank纠正过来。 |
|
|
c*******n 发帖数: 1648 | 34 Court upholds San Jose mother's right to spank daughter
Associated Press
POSTED: 01/23/2014 08:53:42 AM PST | UPDATED: ABOUT 4 HOURS AGO
SAN JOSE -- A California court has sided with a mother who was placed on a
state child abuse database after spanking her 12-year-old daughter.
The mother, Veronica Gonzalez, was reported for child abuse after she
spanked her daughter with a wooden spoon, causing bruises.
The Santa Clara Department of Social Services submitted the incident for
inclusion in t... 阅读全帖 |
|
d*********2 发帖数: 48111 | 35 大部分州适度spank都是合法的。
你周围的老美, 尤其男性, 基本小时候都被spank过, 找个bar和他们喝high了他们
就会坦白了。 而且会有很多bt的联想。 |
|
W*****B 发帖数: 4796 | 36 Moses Farrow Defends Woody Allen, and His Family Pushes Back
Moses Farrow, the adopted son of Woody Allen and Mia Farrow, posted a 4,600-
word essay on Wednesday defending his father against sexual molestation
allegations and claiming his mother was abusive.
In the blog post, titled “A Son Speaks Out,” Mr. Farrow, 40, described
repeated spankings by his mother and other abuse, and what he called “a
deep and persistent darkness within the Farrow family.”
He recalled, too, his version of the event... 阅读全帖 |
|
i0 发帖数: 792 | 37 no spanking
Some studies have suggested that it does not benefit the child, and can
encourage problems like anxiety, alcohol abuse, or dependence and
externalizing problems
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanking |
|
L*******B 发帖数: 837 | 38 该spank就spank,狗和孩子都得教训啊,不管老中老美。 |
|
|
a*****a 发帖数: 19262 | 40 Hello everyone,
Just a friendly reminder that school will be closed on Monday in observance
of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday.
And Friday Funnies to leave you with....
1. A kindergarten pupil told his teacher he'd found a cat, but it was dead.
"How do you know that the cat was dead?" she asked her pupil. "Because I
pissed in its ear and it didn't move," answered the child innocently.
"You did WHAT ? ! ?" the teacher exclaimed in surprise. "You know,"explained
the boy, "I leaned over and went... 阅读全帖 |
|
s******t 发帖数: 12883 | 41 是个美国牧师写的。
他还在书里写小孩子需要一定的spanking. 估计他住在可以合法spanking的州。 |
|
d******i 发帖数: 632 | 42 你这种人就是个搅屎棍子,唯恐天下不乱。 楼主提到孩子身上有伤吗?Spanking在美
国南方的学校里还普遍存在。 你有这个兴风作浪的精力把这些学校都告到supreme
court, 看看人家理不理你。 更不要说在家对孩子spanking了, 至少在纽约州是不违
法的。正如前面一个网友说的,"其实打孩子也许并不是你想象的那样恐怖,我们不做
,但不等于做了就是多错的事情。...." |
|