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b***i
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来自主题: Running版 - 爱死米猪肉
Remedies: Wear shoes with curved lasts to allow pronation. Lightweight
trainers are often best, as they allow more foot motion. (看来HS4都不行了,
得hattori,宇宙鞋,五指鞋)
Also, check for flexibility on the medial (inner) side of the shoe.
Supinators should do extra stretching for the calves, hamstrings, quads and
iliotibial band.
s********v
发帖数: 288
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可能是supination啊,和我差不多。。。

着的
y**********u
发帖数: 6366
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来自主题: Running版 - Mizuno Ronin 3
穿了一下,感觉还行, heel-to-drop 10mm, 7.3oz
前脚掌比较窄,特别能感觉我的侧面的supination,落地还可以,感觉很容易就拉起脚掌
在trail上跑了一阵,感觉也不怎么磨
和tarther相比,感觉不如tarther舒服,不管脚底,鞋面,都感觉过于硬了
o*******r
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来自主题: Running版 - Mizuno Ronin 3
居然比Tarther硬啊。
一直觉得mizuno的鞋子很软。没想到这鞋这么硬。

穿了一下,感觉还行, heel-to-drop 10mm, 7.3oz
前脚掌比较窄,特别能感觉我的侧面的supination,落地还可以,感觉很容易就拉起脚掌
在trail上跑了一阵,感觉也不怎么磨
和tarther相比,感觉不如tarther舒服,不管脚底,鞋面,都感觉过于硬了
y**********u
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来自主题: Running版 - where to test the pronation?
我好像是supination。。。
而且一直该不过来,准备扔掉tarther了
b*******t
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几个被布置要做的stretch:
clams, quadriceps, supine hamstring, ITB lateral thigh, bent/straight knee
calf, piriformis
其它stretch:
prone quadriceps, hip flexor, standing hamstring, corss over, hip abduction
s******i
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来自主题: Running版 - 磨鞋后跟的问题
我跑也是全掌落地 偏前掌一点
后跟外侧和前掌外侧磨 走路的鞋子比跑步的鞋子磨的更厉害
问过医生 说是supinate的原因
s******i
发帖数: 132
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来自主题: Running版 - 磨鞋后跟的问题

我觉得看人吧 比如很多supinator的pronate是不够的 需要额外的cushion来补足缓解
对膝盖的冲击
s******i
发帖数: 132
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来自主题: Running版 - 【视频】芝加哥elites的慢动作
我又看了一遍
好像大部分人是supinator? 另外elites的后摆腿动作很舒展啊
G***a
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1.B 了解你的落地类型
很多体育教练,运动生理专家,管这个叫biomechanics--了解自己运动动力学最好的办
法,就是观察旧鞋!
对的,越破旧越好。讲一双破旧的鞋,放在一个水平的台子上,别嫌臭,仔细观察,是
内侧磨损多,还是外侧磨损多?足跟在哪里着力多?前面磨损多,还是后面磨损多?两
个脚的磨损的pattern对称吗?
Pronation是指足的轴运动。一直物理上的理想脚(ideal foot)是外侧先着地,然后
很快调整到中部,这样能承受体重的冲击。
而过侧脚(overpronation)是过度校正。刚开始着地的时候,位置大概正常,但是随
着脚在地面的旋转,到了中部,就过度像内侧着地。
八字脚(supination/underpronation)是校正不足。脚跟落地位置是对的,后来就往外
侧倾斜。
下面两张图,从左到右,描绘了外八字(underpronation),正常,和内八字(
overpronation)的过程,第一张图是从上往下看,第二张图显示了轴运动。
我们当中,99.99%的人都没有传说中的理想脚。以至于19世纪一个有理想脚的人,死后
脚被做成了标本,做成计量标准... 阅读全帖
G***a
发帖数: 27294
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1.B 了解你的落地类型
很多体育教练,运动生理专家,管这个叫biomechanics--了解自己运动动力学最好的办
法,就是观察旧鞋!
对的,越破旧越好。讲一双破旧的鞋,放在一个水平的台子上,别嫌臭,仔细观察,是
内侧磨损多,还是外侧磨损多?足跟在哪里着力多?前面磨损多,还是后面磨损多?两
个脚的磨损的pattern对称吗?
Pronation是指足的轴运动。一直物理上的理想脚(ideal foot)是外侧先着地,然后
很快调整到中部,这样能承受体重的冲击。
而过侧脚(overpronation)是过度校正。刚开始着地的时候,位置大概正常,但是随
着脚在地面的旋转,到了中部,就过度像内侧着地。
八字脚(supination/underpronation)是校正不足。脚跟落地位置是对的,后来就往外
侧倾斜。
下面两张图,从左到右,描绘了外八字(underpronation),正常,和内八字(
overpronation)的过程,第一张图是从上往下看,第二张图显示了轴运动。
我们当中,99.99%的人都没有传说中的理想脚。以至于19世纪一个有理想脚的人,死后
脚被做成了标本,做成计量标准... 阅读全帖
y**********u
发帖数: 6366
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来自主题: Running版 - 求教,膝盖内侧痛
我是膝盖外侧疼和麻
感觉是supination导致的。。。
z******o
发帖数: 3285
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你看下你的鞋底 哪边磨的厉害 判断你是哪种;比如我是前掌着地 但是supination严
重 所以我整了saucony的rider 5, 是给neutral的人穿的, 挺舒服的。
z******o
发帖数: 3285
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你看下你的鞋底 哪边磨的厉害 判断你是哪种;比如我是前掌着地 但是supination严
重 所以我整了saucony的rider 5, 是给neutral的人穿的, 挺舒服的。
z******o
发帖数: 3285
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来自主题: Running版 - 该改进一下跑步技术了
某天我们老板和我们讨论跑步姿势。他说supination是好的,脚从外往里滚动,缓解冲
击力,如果不翻反而不好。听了之后我觉得我没必要改变脚掌落地方式,很自然就是外
脚掌先触底,再翻到内脚掌。反正我最近跑步都没什么膝盖问题了。
U******u
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来自主题: Running版 - 该改进一下跑步技术了
你说反了吧,supination是往外滚,踝关节向外弯。
一般人都是外脚掌先着地,再翻到内脚掌,落实后脚踝的角度才决定是什么类型。我的
脚弓是中等高度,我是neutral pronation可以从我的旧鞋上看得很清楚。我一直是穿
neutral的鞋,最近我发现穿一点support的鞋时,我的脚前摆时非常直,不像穿
neutral的鞋时要中间调一下角度。我的感觉,还是要相信别人积累起来的经验。
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 正手问题
是在TW看到的问题,没有人回答,正好我也有同样问题。
"When people say 'drop the racquet', is it dropped using the whole arm?
Elbow? Or just wrist supination?
Should it be a deliberate drop or a gravity drop ? "
s****h
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看脚型?
我Supination,脚偏宽
觉得barricade系列4,5,6很不友好
1,2还行。
不知道7,8如何。
h******n
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 正手引拍到底要不要pronation?
good observation regarding 拍面会朝向后方 or no.
but it is not b/c pronation or supination.
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 最近在体会正手甩鞭感觉
经过一个冬天赛季,volley进步了,正手却退步了。最近在改正手,才慢慢体会到摔鞭
是什么感觉。以前正手没有摔鞭,用太多的arm,racquet drop不够。或者以前的
racquet drop是一个非常僵硬的手臂加手腕动作。最近发现小臂supination, 握拍一放
松,lead with palm, 自然而然形成racquet head drop加甩鞭效果(racquet lag)。不
要考虑球拍在哪里, lead with palm or wrist facing net, 自然而然就有了
buttcap facing net兼甩鞭加速度。天气暖和了希望多练练,看看效果如何。
r**m
发帖数: 446
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 最近在体会正手甩鞭感觉
我觉得“小臂supination”很关键,但是很不直观,有点要打削球的感觉
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 最近在体会正手甩鞭感觉
首先,解释一下为什么grip tension要很松,只有这样,向前挥拍的一瞬间,手臂手腕
已经向前,球拍却由于惯性还lag在后面,这个球拍lag非常重要(右臂自然有些
supination, 有些像向右转门把手,buttcap 自然向球的方向), 这个lag球拍最好不要
是forced的动作。
其次,触球瞬间不要抓紧,手腕千万不要用力。
b*********s
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 正手Drop Phase (黑导请进)
I didn't watch his previous segments or the ones after...
just base on this one, I would say he is right on dropping the racquet at a
macro level. His demonstration is exaggerated, and I do not like how he
dropped the racquet, I would guess he slap the ball more (which could be
seen as 很暴力)。 I also don't agree with him on the pronation as you hit
your forehand up over the ball, but I didn't understand him completely.
Another thing I don't agree with him is dip your shoulder so your swing
traject... 阅读全帖
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 正手Drop Phase (黑导请进)
probably not.
my understanding is:
during take back: a little pronation
drop racquet: supination
swing to contact: nothing
after contact: pronation
b*********s
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 正手Drop Phase (黑导请进)
ic... it's different way of hitting... the way you mentioned seems more
fitting for timed the ball style. I advocate set early and wait for the ball
. So in this case I don't see the point of little pronation before the
supination... why add more motion later when you can do it early. Another
thing with the stroke you are describing is it's easier to getting into that
slap motion stroke, a bit top spin and a bit flat drive (i think many
american player hit this way). I frankly think it's a fitti... 阅读全帖
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 正手Drop Phase (黑导请进)
我的意思是in term of drop racquet时supination的程度挺接近的,其他的确不完全
一样。

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b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 半西方正手处理低球
No, I'm not western. I might be a little extreme semi western, but
definitely not western, which swing motion (forearm supination) is very
weird to me.
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 单反是不是容易伤肘
最近想学学单反上旋,看了很多教程,发现一不小心很容易伤肘,各位单反高手觉得对
不对?
首先单反必须比正手或双反握紧球拍多得多,这样胳膊在击球时就受到很大冲击力。
其次单反的follow through必须直臂,球拍刹不住车,上臂和wrist还会一定程度的
supination,肩膀也会受力,这个follow through的动作比双反或正手的follow
through要手臂肌肉紧张好多,感觉做不好也很容易受伤。
b*e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 单反是不是容易伤肘
最近想学学单反上旋,看了很多教程,发现一不小心很容易伤肘,各位单反高手觉得对
不对?
首先单反必须比正手或双反握紧球拍多得多,这样胳膊在击球时就受到很大冲击力。
其次单反的follow through必须直臂,球拍刹不住车,上臂和wrist还会一定程度的
supination,肩膀也会受力,这个follow through的动作比双反或正手的follow
through要手臂肌肉紧张好多,感觉做不好也很容易受伤。
b*e
发帖数: 3845
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 贡献一正手高级Tip
I think it's because Djokovic's take back, his racquet head is pointing up
to the sky, so during racquet drop, plam (or racquet face) is not exactly
facing ground, there is about 15-30 degree angle facing ground. I think that
should be ok. As long as I don't supinate my arm on purpose, it should be
ok.
x*****n
发帖数: 3422
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因为先需要有一个动作在手腕部lay back储能,然后才能释放出去形成鞭打效果。(如
果直接从slot动作开始,你只能让手腕主动硬坳拍子造成lay back stretch,但这样多
伤手腕啊。)
再强调一下,这个储能动作不主动发力,而且是wrist lay back motion (专业术语叫
wrist extension,不要按字面意思理解),而不是手腕转动(not pronation/
supination)。如果靠手腕转动储能,受伤在所难免。(不要问我怎么知道的,哈哈。)
同意wellmoon说的:“向下的主要目的是为了下个阶段的手腕lay back,也叫pre-
stretch。”
Murray特别明显,请看下面慢动作里:
0:05 时候他的手腕并没有lay back
0:09 wrist snap之后进入slot 手腕lay back
0:10 击球点过后,windshield wiper过程中,手腕基本上没有lay back了
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjyQThnMrhs
x*****n
发帖数: 3422
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Well said.
PS. the motion is actually "external shoulder rotation" (mainly upper arm
motion). Lots of people mistake it with supination (mainly lower arm motion
).

back.
drop
f*******n
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来自主题: Weightlifting版 - P90X Phase III
Day 16: Shoulders & Arms and ARX; 20 min on bike; stretch 10 min
Alternating shoulder presses: 13x20, 12x20
In & out bicep curls: 16x15, 16x15
Two-arm tricep kickbacks: 16x12, 14x12
Deep swimmer's presses: 11x18, 11x18
Full Supination Concenreation Curls: 12x15, 12x18
Chair dips: 16, 15
Upright rows: 12x20, 12x20
Static arm curls: 16x15, 16x15
Flip grip twist tricep kickbacks: 16x12, 14x12
Two angle shoulder flys: 16x15, 18x12
Crouching Cohen curls: 12x15, 13x15
Lying down tricep extensions: 10x
t****r
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Urdhva Dhanurasana (Upward Bow Pose, Backbend, or Wheel)
Step by Step
Lie supine on the floor. Bend your knees and set your feet on the floor,
heels as close to the sitting bones as possible. Bend your elbows and spread
your palms on the floor beside your head, forearms relatively perpendicular
to the floor, fingers pointing toward your shoulders.
Pressing your inner feet actively into the floor, exhale and push your
tailbone up toward the pubis, firming (but not hardening) the buttocks, and
lif
S**********y
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very nice..
有中文可能更好了

Urdhva Dhanurasana (Upward Bow Pose, Backbend, or Wheel)
Step by Step
Lie supine on the floor. Bend your knees and set your feet on the floor,
heels as close to the sitting bones as possible. Bend your elbows and spread
your palms on the floor beside your head, forearms relatively perpendicular
to the floor, fingers pointing toward your shoulders.
Pressing your inner feet actively into the floor, exhale and push your
tailbone up toward the pubis, firming (but not hardening)
j******n
发帖数: 21641
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - Antichrist: A Discussion (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Reader 讨论区 】
发信人: wonderlich (左岸,遁去), 信区: Reader
标 题: Antichrist: A Discussion
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 18 03:25:53 2011, 美东)
Antichrist: A Discussion
Posted In Featured,Web Exclusives
Dense, shocking, and thought-provoking, Lars von Trier’s Antichrist is a
film which calls for careful analysis. This web-exclusive exchange between
Film Quarterly editor Rob White and philosopher Nina Power is meant as a
first attempt at the in-depth debate that this major film deserves.
SPOILER WARNING:... 阅读全帖
m******e
发帖数: 536
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来自主题: EnglishChat版 - 不自由毋宁死
“不自由毋宁死”(give me liberty or give me death)是美国历史上非常经典著名
而且流传久远的一个演讲。是当年美国独立战争时,帕特里克·亨利(Patrick Henry)
在殖民地维吉尼亚议会的演讲,号召美国人为了自由要反抗英国殖民统治。
我教练专门选了个演讲最后的三段作为我的学习资料,尤其是连读,断句,各种语气语
调。我也练习了一段时间,就贴出来了,还有好多问题毛病,大家多提意见。
https://app.box.com/s/q6qnzx8wyh7pbt8budzp
They tell us, sir, that we are weak - unable to cope with so formidable an
adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the
next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard
shall be stationed in... 阅读全帖
G******U
发帖数: 4211
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【 以下文字转载自 loseweight 讨论区 】
发信人: Wensi (文思熊), 信区: loseweight
标 题: 准备减肥,初来这里, 贡献一个解决膝盖问题的办法
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 30 16:09:38 2013, 美东)
年初膝盖问题很严重, 上下楼梯都成问题, 休息三个月没好,去看医生,这个问题叫
Runner's Knee,医生推荐到PT,PT教了我几个简单的动作锻炼腿部肌肉, 一个多星期
上下楼梯都没问题了, 1个月之后球场上飞奔。医生说膝盖问题都可以通过锻炼肌肉来
解决。
锻炼腿部支撑力:
1)Side Lying Hip Abduction 腿侧面肌肉
2)glute bridge march 锻炼hip
缓解腿侧面肌肉紧张:
1) Supine Piriformis Stretch
2) Iliotibial rolling
每项10个一组 一天3组, Stretch那个是每组30秒
youtube可以搜到很多相关视频,就不在这里贴了
G******U
发帖数: 4211
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【 以下文字转载自 loseweight 讨论区 】
发信人: Wensi (文思熊), 信区: loseweight
标 题: 准备减肥,初来这里, 贡献一个解决膝盖问题的办法
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 30 16:09:38 2013, 美东)
年初膝盖问题很严重, 上下楼梯都成问题, 休息三个月没好,去看医生,这个问题叫
Runner's Knee,医生推荐到PT,PT教了我几个简单的动作锻炼腿部肌肉, 一个多星期
上下楼梯都没问题了, 1个月之后球场上飞奔。医生说膝盖问题都可以通过锻炼肌肉来
解决。
锻炼腿部支撑力:
1)Side Lying Hip Abduction 腿侧面肌肉
2)glute bridge march 锻炼hip
缓解腿侧面肌肉紧张:
1) Supine Piriformis Stretch
2) Iliotibial rolling
每项10个一组 一天3组, Stretch那个是每组30秒
youtube可以搜到很多相关视频,就不在这里贴了
w********h
发帖数: 12367
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来自主题: Reader版 - Antichrist: A Discussion
Antichrist: A Discussion
Posted In Featured,Web Exclusives
Dense, shocking, and thought-provoking, Lars von Trier’s Antichrist is a
film which calls for careful analysis. This web-exclusive exchange between
Film Quarterly editor Rob White and philosopher Nina Power is meant as a
first attempt at the in-depth debate that this major film deserves.
SPOILER WARNING: Please be aware that the piece assumes familiarity with
Antichrist and does contain major plot spoilers. For ease of reference, a
synop... 阅读全帖
kx
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来自主题: Thoughts版 - 我好笨啊
http://www.qiji.cn/eprint/abs/171.html
昆虫的振翅飞行原理研究进展
The Improvement of Insects Flight
学生:
北京大学 力学与工程科学系
理论与应用力学专业 98级
程暮林
指导教授:
北京大学 力学与工程科学系
陈滨
摘要
昆虫经过漫长的进化过程,获得了令人惊叹的飞行技巧,其高度的飞行机动性令现
代飞行器黯然失色。随着非定常流理论的完善,人们逐渐认识到非定常效应在昆虫
飞行中起十分重要的作用。实验中前缘涡及其产生机制的发现为解释昆虫是如何通
过振翅产生足够的升力奠定了基础。同时,借助于电子显微镜的帮助,人们认识到
昆虫的翅上存在若干智能微结构(the smart microair vehicles),使昆虫的翅在
振动过程中自动地变形为适当的形状。本文通过综述近几十年,国内外的研究进展
,提出一些尚待解决的问题,希望对进一步深入的研究有所帮助。
Abstract
Insects gain surprising perfect flight maneuverability through long evol
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来自主题: Translation版 - 英译中, 高手看看
1. "He makes the case, unrestrained by deference, that a revolutionary
right-wing movement is out to transform the United States--and its
succeeding, rolling over a supine press and political opposition."
2. "Plutocratic democracy is in the saddle."
大意偶知道。 但人家问偶, 偶说不清楚。 中文是越来越rusty了 :(
这里文学高手多, 多多指教。
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【基要派版本】罗马书2:1-16

8. But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey
unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
"
8. But to those who are contentious, etc. There is some irregularity in the
passage; first, on account of its tenor being interrupted, for the thread of
the discourse required, that the second clause of the contrast should be
thus connected, — “The Lord will render to them, who by perseverance in
good works, seek glory, and honor, and immortality, eternal life; but to the
content... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 讨论一下这道题
Ok,maybe omyh should let us know the correct answer. You opinion is absolute
right in old children or adult patient, but infants have their unique
development milestone.
Checked CDC website and here is the link:
http://ephtracking.cdc.gov/showRbInfantMortalityEnv.action
SIDS is the most common reason caused death in early infancy and that is why
AAP so adopt the supine sleeping position in common primary pediatric
practice.
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不忍心看着你焦急的心情,其实这里很多人都愿意帮忙,但是由于种种原因,无法给你
回复。
就以一般性的回复几句,首先你给的非常有限的病史体检化验结果等等,所以基本上没
人能在这里给你一个诊断。我search了一下,下面是链接以及原文,希望对你能有帮助
。另外,也不要小看国内的医生,有很多是不错的。
点击链接可以发现更多的内容。
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/958739-overview
History
Despite the extensive differential diagnoses of splenomegaly, careful
history taking and physical examination, along with a CBC count and liver
function tests, often help in narrowing the list of possible causes. The
history should include attention to the following importan... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - Found a useful child development milestones chart
Child Development Milestone Chart
Age Physical Development Social and Emotional Development Intellectual
Development Language Development
At Birth Lies in fetal position with knees tucked up. Unable to raise head.
Head falls backwards if pulled to sit. Reacts to sudden sound. Closes eye
to bright light. Opens eye when held in an upright position. Bonds with
mother. Smiles at mother. Beginning to develop concepts e.g. becomes aware
of physical sensations such as hunger. Explores using his... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - CS protocol from one guy from UK
http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/109282/
08/17/11 - 8:40 AM
#1
Hello everyone,
I'd like to share my experience of passing Step 2 CS in the first attempt (
got results today) after 17 days of revision. Internet forums have been very
useful to me during my preparations for all the USMLE exams.
My background
I am a board certified ophthalmologist in the U.K. I went to medical school
in the UK, and graduated 11 years ago. I am of Asian origin and grew up in
Asia. I have not done any gene... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - CK NBME form 2 question
34.
A 57-year-old woman is brought to the emergency
department because of
abdominal pain for 12 hours. Over the past 3 hours,
the pain has become
severe and generalized. Over the past month, she has
had mild upper
abdominal discomfort that is relieved by eating. She
has a history of
recurrent migraines treated with sumatriptan as
needed. Her temperature
is 38.2 C (100.8 F), blood pressure is 170/95 mm Hg,
and pulse is
110/min. Abdominal examination shows mild distention;
there is marked
rigidity... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - CK form 1 block 2 Q18
选A还是E?
Paracentesis 虽说是比较general 的抽液,在这题可以理解为心包抽液吗?
18. A 50-year-old woman has had progressive dyspnea over the past 2
weeks
and constant, sharp chest pain for 4 days. The pain is localized to the
center of the chest and is worse while supine. She underwent a right,
modified radical mastectomy and adjuvant chemotherapy for breast cancer
3
years ago. She has a history of hypothyroidism treated with thyroid
replacement therapy. She has smoked one pack of cigarettes daily for 30
years and drinks t... 阅读全帖
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