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l******m
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来自主题: NCAA版 - ZHUAN: Threeway tie in NCAA poll
有点长, 涉及到KU, UNC, ILLINI AND KENTUCKY. 喜欢的话可以耐心一读, 反正这里也挺
干.
Threeway tie in NCAA poll
By NANCY ARMOUR

(AP) - When high-profile coaches are on the coaching merry-go-round, it
usually means as much mess as success.
One school might thrive, riding a combination of talent and enthusiasm over a
fresh start. For others, though, there's that awkward adjustment period, a few
years when the new and old clash and the win-loss record suffers for it. But
Illinois, Kansas and North Carolina are defying tha
s***p
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5134479
Something sad about ESPN's overnight ratings for Thursday's opening round of
the NFL draft. No, the Sunday Brunch is not talking about the 5.4 metered m
arket Nielsen rating that was up 25.6 percent from 2009 and kicked the stuff
ing out of the NBA playoff ratings from the same night. That wasn't sad, tha
t was wonderful.
But this is what was sad -- the No. 1 market for the draft throughout the en
tire United States of America was, wait for i
b**j
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来自主题: NCAA版 - 昨天auburn没有chant S-E-C
GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Something was missing Monday night.
At the past few BCS title games, the end-of-game procedure seemed set in sto
ne. An SEC team wins the title, and even before the fans of that team break
into their traditional chants, they serenade departing opposing fans with th
e same three letters.
S-E-C. S-E-C.
But when Auburn's Wes Byrum drilled a chip-shot field goal Monday to clinch
the conference's fifth consecutive national title and seventh in 13 years of
the BCS era, Tigers fans n... 阅读全帖
b**j
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来自主题: NCAA版 - 球探就是牛啊
看的都是门道。我们都是看热闹。Joyner's review on Cam Newton:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/columns/story?
ner_kc&id=6178028
(此处删去对提包的不敬评论300字)
There are a wide variety of areas that should concern NFL teams and were app
arent when I went back and reviewed tape on Newton, but the three most signi
ficant are:
1. Footwork
To say Newton's footwork was inconsistent would be giving it credit it doesn
't deserve; it was almost as if this part of his game was an afterthought.
One clear-cut example o... 阅读全帖
b**j
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来自主题: NCAA版 - breaking rumor: aTm 10-2, WV #14
跑去wv的论坛,球迷的第一反应:
I know what I'm praying for tonight.....dear god, please make it happen, tha
t is all.
b**j
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stanford lost the 1999 rose bowl to wisc, so i guess b1g has stanford to tha
nk if msu wins this one
N**D
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Review from amazon: :D
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Made for a man's body, January 12, 2009
By L. J. Walker (Seattle, WA USA) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
This holster accomplishes one goal: to carry my DSLR and a zoom lens without
the encumbrance of a camera bag with a shoulder strap, or of a backpack tha
t I must reach into whenever I need a camera tool. For this, I give the prod
uct an A-.
However, I also have two big complaints.
Lowepro designed t
f********t
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看了一下,我认为评A-(4.5分)很合适。说说她提的两个缺点
1.和胸前东西打架,我个男的没感觉,女士可能会
2.大DSLR+镜头勒的慌。我认为这个理由不成立,大DSLR用的相机包太厚,挂胸前档脚
底视线,很危险,所以不推荐用胸包。

without
tha
prod
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 被打击了

it depends on which biner you are talking about. it you are belaying with a
munter hitch, the biner is not used as a device to change the direction of
force, but rather tha main source of friction to stop a fall.
c******n
发帖数: 4965
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 我也发一个装备贴 呵呵呵呵
我超级耐用的防水Timex 表
I used this watch for 7 years, surprisingly, it worked well all the
time. the core of the watch really stood up to its claim of water-proof-
ness . recently I went into see water surfing with this watch, it never
leaked. Although the core worked fine, the peripheral parts all
disintegrated : apart from the regular 2 times battery change, the
original plastic wrist band broke long time ago, and the current band is
a nylon band with Velcro. recently in water, one of the rollers tha
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 版上有人这样睡过么?
metolius makes poop tubes. you can make your own with PCB pipes.
you can just pee in tha air. when you are standing at the base of el cap,
keep in mind that all that is wet is not rain.
T*********e
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - tie-in knots
Bowline is not hard to tie, indeed. The reason it lost its popularity is tha
t it is not easy to check the correctness. This is especially true for begin
ners.

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c*******r
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - tie-in knots
如果从一开始就教bowline可能也不见得。用的少了就不容易记住。

tha
begin
l****a
发帖数: 73
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女单第三圈对阵表(32强)及比赛时间
<<<<上半区>>>>>
张怡宁 CHN
1 1:00:00 PM - 8/17/2004 (北京时间 19:00)
李春丽 NZL

GANINA Svetlana RUS
2 1:00:00 PM - 8/17/2004 (北京时间 19:00)
柳絮飞 HKG

PAVLOVICH Viktoria BLR
3 1:00:00 PM - 8/17/2004 (北京时间 19:00)
KOMWONG Nanthana THA

KRAVCHENKO Marina ISR
4 1:00:00 PM - 8/17/2004 (北京时间 19:00)
鲍罗斯 HRV

帖雅娜 HKG
5 2:00:00 PM - 8/17/2004 (北京时间 20:00)
托特 HUN

井浚泓 SIN
6 2:00:00 PM - 8/17/2004 (北京时间 20:00)
金英
J********9
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now i understand. but it is good to know tha:)

啊。
v***v
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来自主题: Pingpong版 - 对田径成绩的探讨
赶紧删贴吧。别说二级,那成绩一级标准都超了,国家运动健将了。
亚运会小组成绩,中国国家队员跑1:50没有qualify
Rank Lane Athlete Time Notes
1 8 Sajjad Moradi (IRI) 1:49.05 Q
2 3 Masato Yokota (JPN) 1:49.26 Q
3 2 Sajeesh Joseph (IND) 1:49.58
4 5 Zhang Haikun (CHN) 1:50.01
5 4 Abdulaziz Ladan (KSA) 1:50.39
6 6 Sergey Pakura (KGZ) 1:51.25
7 1 Watcharin Waekachi (THA) 1:52.35
w****1
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来自主题: Running版 - Ryan Hall offically withdrew?
I would say quite the opposite. Ryan Hall began his career as a middle
distance runner (a miler, in fact), and
then found his strength at the half marathon and marathon distance. Samuel
Wanjiru's japanese style training
is focused on long run and long tempo, without worrying much about speed
over short distances at all. In fact,
this is why Japanese elite marathoners consistently do well in the marathon
despite not always having elite
speed over the 5K/10K distance. Put it simply, it appears tha
z***h
发帖数: 164
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来自主题: Running版 - 布什全马3‘44,佩林3’59
There are gaps in evolution theory, but I think it belongs in science
because it is supported to a substantial extent by evidence and there is the
possibility that it can be proved false by new evidence. Of course, one can
argue that all these fossil and DNA evidences are just proof tha God has a
sense of humor and it may even be the truth despite what Occam's razor might
say, but a hypothesis that cannot be proved false does not belong in
science. Put it in religious study or maybe philosophy.
W***i
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来自主题: Running版 - Running Terminology
算了,我还是再贴一遍,
Your friendly beginning runner's guide to .... runner's jargon.
You'll notice we don't have a FAQ here -- that's because we want you to ask
your questions, join in, become part of the community! That said, I am sure
new runners get overwhelmed by phrases we throw around all the time here wit
h impunity; you probably think we're all speaking some strange language. To
follow along here, it's really helpful just to know some general stuff and w
hat terms mean. So in the interest of hel... 阅读全帖
y**********u
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来自主题: Running版 - Running Terminology
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l***h
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来自主题: Running版 - 你们说的MP是什么 ?
marathon pace
跑步黑话大全
Your friendly beginning runner's guide to .... runner's jargon. Cool
You'll notice we don't have a FAQ here -- that's because we want you to ask
your questions, join in, become part of the community! That said, I am sure
new runners get overwhelmed by phrases we throw around all the time here wit
h impunity; you probably think we're all speaking some strange language. To
follow along here, it's really helpful just to know some general stuff and w
hat terms mean. So in the in... 阅读全帖
x***k
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来自主题: Ski版 - 关于滑雪摔伤的问题
Oh, I have a daughter and I knew how you feel.
My daughter is not going with me to ski anymore, one of the reasons she gave
me was that I pushed her too hard.
Like I posted in previous other threads, that once I talked to a ski patrol
he said "Injuries always happen in the last run of the day".
LOL, sorry, but think about it. It makes all the sense.
When you are tired you get injured by loosing control, of course, once
injured, it has to be your last run, ayh?
I hope she is not so scared tha
x***k
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Double posting:
Now I'm going to quote Skiing Magazine's powder specialty skis review:
"If you can legitimately use this ski for everyday skiing, you're probably a
heli guide. For the rest of us, these skis are reserved for two-foot dumps
or more"
Here they were talking about true powder skis with the waist W=110-138cm.
Oh, BTW, the best in Skiing Mag's annual tests (at Snowbird, of course) is
K2 Pontoon 160/130/120, - two years in route. I've seen them at Snowbird,
it was totally odd-shaped tha
q*c
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?????,???Dick Bass??
Snowbird co-founder Dick Bass, known for laughs, adventurous spirit, dies at
85
http://www.sltrib.com/home/2774258-155/snowbird-co-founder-dick
or?fullpage=1
?????,????????????Dick Bass???????????
http://www.sltrib.com/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.Str
?STREAMOID=j9he1xgb3Mfic0utSYFxRs$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYvIzadOpfdnFtQ7mBg33ONxW
CsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo
3h8xh70Y6N_U_CryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg
Photo cou... 阅读全帖
A**d
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TheDutch had a plan. Kick, kick, give the ball to Robben and pray, karate
kick and then kick again(not the ball, but the Spaniards). It threw Spain
off for the most part but they kept enough composure to win it in the end.
It is a disgrace tha De Jong&Van Bommel wernt sent off in almost 120 minutes
of UFC football! Great saves by both Goalkeepers.
Thx to the inept ref who didn抰 have the guts to show 2nd yellow for the
inumerable fouls & Dutch tactics now Spain proved they can overcome scumbag
ta
r*********e
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来自主题: Soccer版 - 迪马特奥终于转正了
Roberto Di Matteo no longer interim
LONDON -- Chelsea handed Roberto Di Matteo the full-time manager's job on a
two-year contract Wednesday, rewarding the Italian for guiding the club to i
ts first European Cup title.
Di Matteo replaced fired manager Andre Villas-Boas for the final 11 weeks of
the season on an interim basis, revitalizing a divided team and turning the
m into FA Cup and European champions.
After weeks of uncertainty over his long-term future, the 42-year-old former
Chelsea midfie... 阅读全帖
K****D
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来自主题: Tennis版 - [合集] 这周打了四次网球
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fuhongl () 于 (Sun Aug 23 19:42:54 2009, 美东) 提到:
这周七天和四个不同的水平相近的partner打了四次网球,分别是周二,四,六,日,总
共六盘。其中两盘打到抢七,一盘7:5,两盘打到6:4.
频率有点crazy了。
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sinopeter84 (klinsmann48) 于 (Sun Aug 23 20:18:32 2009, 美东) 提到:
赞,
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focus (白饭~谈笑退天兵) 于 (Sun Aug 23 20:38:03 2009, 美东) 提到:
我上周七天打了七次,这周六次.
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chen91 (win) 于 (Mon Aug 24 03:55:42 2009, 美东) 提到:
tha
Y**s
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I used a wooden frame when I was small, then my dad put the racket in the
car trunk and after a hot summer afternoon, I took it out and it's
completely warped.
I think that Roddick popularized the super-stiff Babolat rackets. Most
people didn't even know Barbolat made rackets before they see Roddick play
with a weird looking stick and hitting hard serves. Federer used a custom
painted PS85 for a long long time until Wilson custom designed the K90 to
his specs. Are the stiffer frame better tha
r*********x
发帖数: 3016
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来自主题: Tennis版 - Surface of AO/USO/IW?
How about surface of Idian Wells comparing with AO and USO?
I heard tha IW also resurface right before the tournament. Have to play
there this year. Any suggestion?
a*i
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 我告诉你为什么不公平
I am already hurt tha this change of rule could hurt a chinese. seriously.
Tennis is borderless? Give me a break!
s*******t
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来自主题: Tennis版 - ATP vs WTA Forehand
5000转那肯定是弹地以前。这个网站的数据看着还靠谱,discovery还做过节目测nadal
的上旋,不过也是弹地前。
http://www.fawcette.net/2012/02/federer-hits-with-more-spin-tha
慢镜头数一下还挺靠谱,我不会,主要是不知道fps...。你要是碰巧知道了咱们算算,
还挺有趣的。公式就在网上。
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%8B%E8%BD%AC%E5%8A%A8%E8%83%BD
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%BD%89%E5%8B%95%E6%85%A3%E9%87%8F%E5%88%97%
E8%A1%A8
d**********8
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 新鲜出炉奔 (转载)
Very nice play! and I noticed that you like the Head Prestige rackets, one
thought I have is, maybe wrong, Prestige series rackets are good for a full
swing, tha is "L6" means. However your swing is a modern compact type swing,
that is probably why you aren't geneating a lots of power, but able to
counter punch balls back, I would suggest you try the radical series rackets
, which are good for your type swing, you may find lost of control at the
beginnnig, however with tighter string, it should ... 阅读全帖
d**********8
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Good Memory, Bee!
I had lots of them from TW forum as well. ^_^
I am in WNY, courts/membership fee is expensive, my wife sin'thappy for that
, but that is only hobby I choose (give up lots of things), so negotiable!
And you are absolutey right, it is good for one' health, totally worth it.
I saw your play from the vedio you loaded, and I noticed that you like the
Head Prestige rackets, one thought I have is, maybe wrong, Prestige series
rackets are good for a full swing, tha is "L6" means. Howe... 阅读全帖
w***w
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Online poker at risk
http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-news/us-government-won%E2%80%99t-target-payment-processors-online-gambling-states-073008.html
US Government Targets Payment Processors for Online Gambling in States
Submitted by C Costigan on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 21:07.
As widely reported on the Gambling911.com website over the last few days,
Zip Payments, a payment processing solution which handled business for a
number of online gambling establishments, had its funds seized by US
authorities.
Now comes word tha
y********n
发帖数: 2063
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - what can I do?
aggressiver can take down pots in 2 ways, their cards or their aggression. Just like WSOP, jerry yang takes down big pots not by his hands instead by his betting, betting. It is the same in cash game.
And aggressiver can build their image and take small pots. And build big
pots later on when they have a hand. Just like Wsop 2008 champ, many people see he wins when he has a big hand, and people push their chips in with nothing. Why? Because that guy already build his aggressive image. Surely, tha
h******g
发帖数: 100
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 很沮丧
I have reads on them, the guy shove with A5 just shoved A2 and 66 a couple
of hands earlier. The guy call with 77 on the button was really hesitate to
make the call. If he had big A or big pair, he won't make that move. At
tha point, I am getting about 3 to 1 to make the call, besides, I can knock
out 2 players at the same time. I agree it might look like a marginal call,
but when playing a tournament, you have to take a chance once or twice to
be able to win, that's the one chance I took an
p****r
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - log and hourly rate
tha is not my data. it is from that thread. hehe.
I was very lazy to keep log all the time. But my online result is
accurate since data mining website keep them.

me
A***a
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来自主题: Travel版 - 欧洲旅行tip No.2-火车
德法的开车速度快主要还是他们汽车的性能的确好。我每天骑自行车上下班,等红灯时看
汽车,全是BMW、奔驰和雷诺。法国主要是雷诺和标志。我housemates都是德国空军的飞
行员,有一位有一辆BMW6缸的摩托车,银灰色的有2-3米长,真是帅呀!我姑夫在雷诺主
管车型设计,他说高速碰撞实验中车头到方向盘要吸收全部的碰撞能量,使驾驶员无损伤

开始说火车,在德国的ICE是可是上车再买票的,ICE火车(时速280公里)穿越德国直到荷
兰,从早5点开始每1小时一列。准时舒适就是贵,从法兰克福到科隆50分钟就要50欧元。
我从科隆经过比利时到巴黎坐的是THA列车,这是要先买票的。周六日要贵一些,买票时
可以让他们帮你找便宜的时间。我的往返要90多欧元。本来是4小时就到的,但是在比利
时境内停了几次,晚了1个多小时,车上的人都非常生气。巴黎北站的人员忙着给大家发
索赔表格,规定晚30分钟25%,1小时赔50%,2小时赔100%等等。有人从布鲁塞尔到巴
黎看歌剧的,要求赔偿歌剧票等等。车站一片混乱。我回德国后填了表要回了20多欧元到
Credit Card。所以在德法,坐火车一定要保留车票,晚点要向
f**********4
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The continent should be all Europe excluding the island of Britain, Ireland,
Iceland and other smaller ones.
Northern Europe is part of Europe continent. Denmark is well connected by
land with Germany. Topographically, Scandinavia peninsula is of course
connected to other places on the continent, because it is .... a peninsula.
Also, with the bridges running across the Danish Straits, from Copenhagen to
Malmo, it takes only half an hour. So the peninsula is well connected.
Also important is tha
h****i
发帖数: 269
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概括一下,就是这个网站只能订票,如果有任何cancel或是change,第一不能在网上完成,然后你就必须打电话,百分百保证至少在线等15分钟才能跟人说上话,用电脑把你的信息调出来就要再等15分钟,他们客服自己说是因为电脑慢,然后再等15分钟更新信息。而不幸的我最后被转到了orbitz,简直不敢相信我的耳朵。虽然我历经了n多个小时的磨难,结果最后到机场检票的时候,航空公司说没有我们的订票信息,我们不得不再机场现买的票。
后来我试图和他们的supervisor讲话,又给我放到等待上20多分钟,我的信心就这样崩溃了,我真的不相信他们有这样一个supervisor存在,我绝对不相信他们试图帮助解决问题。这样的一个网站连个投诉的email地址都没有,我按着客服调查给的地址发过去,居然被打回来说没有这个地址。
总之一句话,钱到了他们手里就没丁点可能再回来了,不管你坐没坐上飞机。
This was the email I sent to this company, but it was rejected. There is no
way to sent any email to this compa... 阅读全帖
q*******2
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AA's business saver reward ticket is cheaper tha UA: 110,000 vs. 120,000. I
think this is the only advantage AA points has.
d*g
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来自主题: Weightlifting版 - 人体器官衰老时间表[zt]
Just told her your BF could not believe there is a person more beautiful tha
n you, and you want to show him the proof.
h********1
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来自主题: Weightlifting版 - 人体器官衰老时间表[zt]
really??? do you think that may work? have you ever tried that? but i have
to pick the time that she is wearing very tight tank with two narrow strips.
otherwise, her shoulder and arms would be covered.

tha
V*********t
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - [合集] Boston Globe on Lang Lang
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Genesis (LIH) 于 (Fri Aug 22 13:48:43 2003) 提到:
Classic with a twist
21-year-old pianist Lang Lang creates a sensation with his sound and flair
By Richard Dyer, Globe Staff, 8/22/2003
Lang Lang is the most hotly hyped performer in classical music today.
The pianist has just turned 21; his first record for Deutsche Grammophon
(Concertos by Tchaikovsky and Mendelssohn) swiftly moved to the top of
Billboard's classical chart after its release July 15, tha
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来自主题: Collectibles版 - 炒金子的税很高啊。。。。
http://www.nuwireinvestor.com/articles/how-the-irs-taxes-gold-investments-56
249.aspx
How The IRS Taxes Gold Investments
Published on:
Friday, October 15, 2010
Written by:
Keith Fitz-Gerald

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Gold prices keep heading for the sky, with new records being set practically
every month, and pundits predicting that prices will double within five yea
rs. However, is Uncle Sam the one reaping most of the rewards? Wheth... 阅读全帖
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The House on Thursday approved a measure that would repeal the unpopular '10
99' tax-reporting requirement for small businesses included in the national
health-care law.
It passed on a 314-to-112 vote, with all Republicans present as well as 76 D
emocrats voting in favor; 112 Democrats were opposed.
Both Democrats and Republicans, as well as the White House, support repealin
g the provision, which requires businesses to report to the Internal Revenue
Service all purchases of $600 or more.
But th... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: CouchPotato版 - Simon Cowell leaving AI after this season
Simon Cowell leaving 'American Idol'
January 11, 2010 3:58 p.m. EST
(CNN) -- Longtime "American Idol" judge Simon Cowell said he'll be leaving
the popular Fox talent show at the end of the season, the network announced
Monday at the Television Critics Association press tour in Pasadena,
California.
Cowell's popular U.K. talent show, "The X Factor," will be coming to the
United States in 2011 with the acerbic critic in tow, according to Fox.
"I want to leave 'Idol' this year bigger and better tha
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来自主题: Craft版 - New Queen of Ice choker/bracelet set!
i agree,
but then my budget is limited.... I cant work with diamonds or sapphires...
and even if I do, my wirework will
not be a secure way to incorporate these precious gems into my design!
in regards to her willing to pay $20-$40, em, that's actually only the cost
of materials I spent on these
pieces.... so it seems like she forgot to factor in "labor" as well, and if
the piece is made by sapphires or other
precious gems, em, I am not sure how expensive the piece will be!
I appreciate what tha
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I have a pot from All-Clad. It is perfect for soup. It holds the heat so muc
h that even after I turned the stove off it will keep simmering for more tha
n 1 hour. It's a little expensive through.
As for the Yin-Er, you have to buy from China. I tried many Yin-Er in Chinat
own and it remains crisp after hours and hours. But the ones I brought from
China melt in 30 minutes. It has nothing to do with the pot.
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我太笨了。。。中国买的,我妈给买说一定会melt的,美国买的,试了好多种,泡多于
10hrs,减掉梗,炖4-5小时怎么还不烂啊。。。

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