J********e
发帖数: 341 | 1 他们是什么标准认定pattern day trader啊？
我一周就买卖三四次股票，都不是day trade。
就是周五早上看到GS大涨，然后就买了put，结果一直涨，就一直加仓put，总共4次，
在收盘30分钟左右的时候全卖了。难道他们认定这是5次day trade？
难道不是option trading没有次数限制吗？ |
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d****7
发帖数: 2241 | 2 What is the disadvantage of pattern day trader, lyrist 大牛？ Thanks. |
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 3 it has been the way things are since there ever were traders in the agricult
ural markets. welcome to stock board, admin girl. |
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b*******e
发帖数: 6389 | 4 昨天知道，在我开户的券商公司工作了多年的我的对手Trader Michael 辞职离开公司
了，想起来我和他打交道已经有四、五年了，其实还是很想和他说一声再见的。
五年前，当我刚刚在这家券商开户的时候，开始服务我的帐户的是一个年轻的小伙子，
他在公司应当是负责销售和客户服务的。没多久，随着我的资金和交易量的增加，除了
客户服务的小伙子之外，交易员 Michael 开始和我比较经常地打交道。一般来说，关
于帐户里资金的进出和每日利息的入账和支付之类的杂事都是由客户服务来操办的，凡
是涉及到交易方面的各种问题都是由 Michael 来接电话的。
我想在刚开始的那一段时间里，券商公司可能是与我的帐户对赌的，也就是说，把我的
买卖单在公司内部就直接截留了。那段时间，在电话里 Michael 对我的称呼是 Sir,
态度是礼貌中带着冷淡的。经过了大约一年多之后，我觉得券商公司大概放弃了与我的
帐户对赌，把我全部的买卖单都转到背后的投行去了，因为可以明显地感觉到之前和之
后在交易过程中的差别。以前我的买卖交易基本上都是挺顺畅的，后来直到今天，买卖
交易过程就总是磕磕绊绊的，比如在交易平台上点击了买 |
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b******n
发帖数: 61 | 5 I'm a full time self-employed stock trader. I'll move there soon and want
to make some trading friends. Pls. drop me a message if interested. |
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w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 6 像HPQ,CSCO这些"有故事的人"盘后交易量都很大啊
应该不完全是机器人在Trade吧，trader在加班加点? |
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n*******t
发帖数: 1296 | 8 My equity balance is well above the $25000 bottom line restriction, so it's
not a problem for me. I am just wondering if there is any other
disadvantages as being labeled as 'day trader patter', particullarly for tax
purpose. |
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n*******t
发帖数: 1296 | 9 Got it, thanks. Will the tax rate be much higher for a day trader pattern?
(I never hold a stock more than a year) |
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l********t
发帖数: 429 | 10 我收到。
是叫我把trading交给他们trader做。 |
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s*****r
发帖数: 1745 | 12 I am new to this site, wondering are there many full time traders here? |
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m********0
发帖数: 2717 | 13 PM跟trader还是有些区别的。
York
blindness/?scp=1&sq=risk%20jpmorgan&st=cse |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 14 I was actually confused about his real position. The report said in the
first paragraph that he was a "trader" and then said he was not in the spot
trading desk. I did not know if the emphasis was in "spot" or "trading desk." |
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s*****n
发帖数: 5488 | 16 123都不能被叫做trader:)否则门槛也太低了。 |
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m********0
发帖数: 2717 | 17 怎末可能，我把钱放在账户里，不trade，就是top 5%的trader了。 |
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w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 18 I think top trader could make 7 digits in single day.
other
point |
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s*****r
发帖数: 1745 | 19 As for profits, you have traders making dozens of millions in some day in
those big institutions.
I am talking about average JOEs here, bud. |
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w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 21 If DT stock, and if he is good, there is not much reason he play with his
own account and not to go with some firm.
if trade options or futures it is totally different.
retails account usually can't have good enough commission plan and it is a
big portion in active day trading.
there are even some trader just do rebate trading to get exchange rebate and
could make quite some money in the dt.
If he is good making DT with his own account, then he shouldn't be ONLY
making 6 digits in a year. |
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g********5
发帖数: 10335 | 22 Truely, i once several traders DT with their own money, earn 7 digits within
3 months, just beginning from 5 digits.
and |
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m********0
发帖数: 2717 | 23 partially agree.
the reason that traders decide to trade for himself is they become over-
confident with some records in a firm
and prop firm usually takes majority of their profits.
Second reason is spiritual independence.
But it turned out to be a bad change for a lot of them.
I was going to see about rebate trading. This and arbitrage are the safest
way to play.
But most ppl in this game is arrogant to believe she/he is going to
outperform others and win their money.
So majority of them are d... 阅读全帖 |
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m********0
发帖数: 2717 | 24 I am capable of that too.
but the thing is for individuals,
scale up is hard, not only due to liquidity.
one should go for other investment.
There are a lot future traders making 10-100M
turn to other trading vehicles
within |
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m********0
发帖数: 2717 | 25 I am totally a beginner for future. My friend in CA just
met a CMDTY trader in China, temporarily hired by firms here.
Kinda a legend. I hope I would have the chance to learn from
experienced stars some day.
But since there is no definition of inside trading for future,
so I guess network overwhelm everything else. |
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w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 26 这个估计不会是书上的做法，这样得到在帐户上可以出现几千倍的股票价值leverage。
盈利后换成spread领成本跑profit的成本还是需要按照你的起始投入。好像以前这边的
摇女走单c然后换spread，然后又换成反向spread一个股票swing一轮吃出几米。
很多bfly 可以做到0 投入，但不容易上量，没有OEday的单向trick简单。
我觉得个体户trader 做自己帐户的好的还是得靠options。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 27 Your friend's story sound real but his way of trading looks very
conservative since he didn't raise his wager as his capital grows.In another
word, his return is much smaller than those story about how good are traders doing.Yet his success sounds real.
matter
digit
a |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 28 Daytrading can maintain consistency but not at a very high return.
Because:
1. liquidity: when your capital grows big you can't exit fast as needed.
2. Low margin is necessary to maintain consistency.If you use big margin, then your trading is too risky to maintain consistency.
The only trader that was doing good to maintain consistency at very high
return is Livermore, and even he failed at the end. And at his age the
market was much less complicated than today's market. |
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l**********o
发帖数: 9952 | 29 是中国trader过年去了，明天百度就要大涨了，呵呵。 |
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h********r
发帖数: 171 | 30 有没有人了解OptionsXpress? 他家的level I & II是什么价格？这家trader如何？ |
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s*****r
发帖数: 1745 | 31 You will probably end up paying more tax by changing the status from an
individual to a trading firm.
trader |
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a******e
发帖数: 472 | 32 Super Zan! how much you made from stock if you don't mind share with us?
trader |
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Z****g
发帖数: 13731 | 34 平稳的慢牛他们很难赚钱？
问这个是因为曾看到一篇 THE TRADERS ARE BACK 的文章
村长等股市老油条说说？ |
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r*********C
发帖数: 2019 | 35 这几天手痒，买卖多了一些。被TD classified pattern day trader。
我的资金＜２５K。 问一下还可以买卖股票吗？看不懂closing transaction for ９０
days。是不准day trade 还是不准买卖？ |
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M*****8
发帖数: 17722 | 37
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一旦散户们有精准的预测，
墙街就无法有效地大幅度移动价格。
因为那样反而是制造机会给散户套利。
所以墙街必然会缩短价格变化的幅度。
这是可预见的，因为墙街不喜散户赢。
所以目前的猪市，很可能会维持下去，
而这种猪市最适合 Day Trader。 |
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h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 38 三十年经验的老Trader也说对市场的走向没有感觉。Trading的头担心下周一二，市场
的流动性会降下来，引起价格的异常波动。为了防止巨大损失，头叫大家减少仓位，尽
量Reduce Risk。 |
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h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 39 Buy-Side
一个星期前就听说有大投行下令所有的Trader Review 并报告给上级自己的Position
和Risk 的细节，然后Reduce Risk。
好像我们公司的策略是“不求大赚，首要任务是保证不大亏”。留得青山在，不怕没柴
烧。 |
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t***l
发帖数: 3644 | 40 Oops.... It seems the market is really unpredictable.... Just to make sure,
your company's traders reduce positions on equity, right? How about rates,
fx trading? |
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h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 41 30年经验的老Trader 和“来股版3年不到的青蛙们”最大的区别可能就是前者有更多“
Risk Management”的经验，亲身经历过“Black Friday”等各种金融风暴而且成功地
挺过来了。 |
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s*****n
发帖数: 5488 | 42 空仓的着急要冲进去。刚解套的怕再次大跌。今天收盘，人家trader给你打暗示呢。我
看明早肯定要重新测试11k。 |
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b******i
发帖数: 4776 | 43 Traders in the New York Stock Exchange felt the shaking and shouted to each
other, "Keep trading!"
CNN's business correspondent Alison Kosick reported from the floor at 2:20
p.m. E.T. |
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d***s
发帖数: 797 | 44 我刚注册了一个俱乐部,想邀请几个全职交易美股,day trader
起码的要求是:
1)资金至少20万
2)今年至少已实现8万利润
我也附上自己的账户,站内联系. 我基本上每个月都会有几个比较确定的挣钱机会,我会
及时贴出自己的交易,大家可以跟风,当然也希望能跟大家比较确定的机会.
1）俱乐部的成员都是全职交易员，以此为生
2）发帖人将自己的交易记录及时贴出，不解释或少量解释
3）所有成员有至少3年的交易经验，自己决定跟不跟 |
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f******r
发帖数: 437 | 45 难以想象啊， 什么样的day trader有稳定>80K/y的收入， 还需要跟别人的pick? |
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t******t
发帖数: 2404 | 46 day trader才8万/y的收入， 不如硅工呀。硅工还有其他benefits |
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m******g
发帖数: 3667 | 47 请问被broker打成pattern day trader的标志，有什么坏处？ |
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b******n
发帖数: 61 | 48 How many full time traders here? Raise ur hand. |
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p******r
发帖数: 1279 | 49 day traders!
what if you buy and stay under water, will you cut meat before closing? or
just sit tight and wait for another day? |
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m*t
发帖数: 7490 | 50 当然止损了
不止损的都不是trader，是雷锋（巴菲除外） |
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