k****t
发帖数: 12697 | 1 you pay commission when you trade etf. if you buy the no load no fee funds
at the funds issuer you don't pay anything. the funds only source of admin
fee is from the ER.
higher turn over ratio? not necessarily. The etf's are traded much more
frequently for sure but the composition turnover is not necessarily higher
than some actively managed mutual funds. turnover means the change of the
underlaying stocks, not the trading of the fund itself.
some ppl prefer eft over the regular mutual funds bec |
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k****t
发帖数: 12697 | 2 SPY turnover is 3%. lower than vfinx (5%).
as I said earlier, the turnover is the fund's underlaying stock composition
change. not trading of the funds. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 3 Lost to index by 2.5% in 2nd quarter.
I turned bearish too early (end of April) and my portfolio was
effectively all cash for the majority of 2nd quarter. The index,
meanwhile, raised 7% in the same period.
My overall turnover during 2nd quarter is extremely low. I probably
made less than 6 trades all together with less than 50% turnover.
As reflected by the chart, as of 06/30/2009, my portfolio is almost
neutral with a tiny bullish flavor.
The market did not go the way I wanted. This 2nd quarte |
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t****g
发帖数: 35582 | 4 科普一下吧。
一个fund的performance可以看他的alpha和beta。这个是以fund的performance为纵轴
，SP500或者更加braod的index为横轴，回归分析拟合出来的结果。
alpha是截距，beta是volatility。
从投资的角度看，alpha就是确定性的跑赢大盘的收益，beta就是短期风险。
不过统计的角度也指出，从长期投资来看，beta越大，alpha也越大；也就是长期投资(
20-30年)，高风险的vehicle的return从统计意义来看更高。这也就是巴菲特为啥说
over diversify is stupidity.
选择ETF, MF或者什么其他的fund，关键看alpha, beta，turnover ratio, expense几
项。比如过去十年，alpha相同，自然beta越低的MF越好。expense ratio看似不大，但
是随着你的投资compounding起来最后总体的expense可能差出上万。morningstar或者
别的地方都有expense ratio在10年左右的total expense的比较。turn... 阅读全帖 |
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 5 VEIPX turnover ratio ~30%, not bad and VWELX? It has 40% in bonds, of course
turnover will be higher, they cannot hold bond forever. 35% STCap unless
you are in the top tax bracket.
bond
Roth |
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t***n
发帖数: 546 | 6 我一般用VTSMX和VEXMX来配平large/med/Small，VTMSX太集中在small cap上了，不是
太好。而且40%的turnover，放在taxable account不好。同理Vanguard Wellesley的
turnover也很高。
和楼上说的一样，VFINX不需要，用VTSMX+VEXMX最好。
VGTSX最好放在taxable account里面，可能有tax exempt，就是在国外交了税的IRS不
再征税。而且应该加大international 的比例。
VWITX是bonds，一定优先放在tax-defer的账上，其次是tax-free，最次是taxable
不是很清楚VWINX的作用是什么。你各种指数基金都有了，不需要这种blend的了吧。
建议 taxable：
VTSMX，VEXMX，VGTSX
IRA
VBIIX 加上VTSMX，VEXMX，VGTSX， 后三种主要用来rebalance
对了，楼主能不能share一下最后总的asset allocation百分比。用morningstar的
instant x-ray就好了。看看最后US/... 阅读全帖 |
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t*m
发帖数: 4414 | 7 Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) and Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX
) have the same expense ratio (0.05%).
Are my following understandings correct?
(1) they are equivalent in a tax sheltered account (e.g. IRA) for long
term investment (e.g buy and hold for >5 years). Although ETF will suffer a
tiny disadvantage because of buy/sell spread and Premium/Discount spread.
(2) In a taxable account, ETF is more tax efficient even for long term
investment (e.g buy and hold for >5 years).... 阅读全帖 |
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 8 What I do not understand is BSJF turnover ratio is 61% according to
morningstar. I would imagine a held-to-maturity portfolio turnover ratio be
very low.
Another issue I have is if something bad hit in the middle of 2015, BSJF
still need to sell its portfolio MtM, rather than holding onto the defaulted
bonds waiting for recovery.
distribution
six
fund |
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 9 What I do not understand is BSJF turnover ratio is 61% according to
morningstar. I would imagine a held-to-maturity portfolio turnover ratio be
very low.
Another issue I have is if something bad hit in the middle of 2015, BSJF
still need to sell its portfolio MtM, rather than holding onto the defaulted
bonds waiting for recovery.
distribution
six
fund |
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b****m
发帖数: 366 | 10 You think BRK is active fund?
Active managers is those who buy and sell frequently, but BRK investment
usually buy and hold for a long time.
What's BRK's turnover ratio?
Same with Ruane's SEQUX, which follow the same value investing principle,
SEQUX has low average turnover ratio 16.52% over the past 3 years.
The difference between WB and us is that he won't need to pay fund managing
fee.
Fee eats up most margin earned by using active fund manager.
closed
seems
the
for |
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g****n
发帖数: 3313 | 11 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: gpsfan (八戒,削她!善了个哉的!), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: 【JOBS】11.01 -- 11.30
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 18 02:52:59 2011, 美东)
以下职位，如果是名校，高分，申请把握会大增，经过内部推荐后，不需要HR
SCREENING, 直接面试。
年底机会不多，大家抓紧。
EMAIL 简历到：GPSFAN#GMAIL.COM
Office Coordinator
The Role:
Company Concierge, a full-time superstar responsible for helping to run the
day-to-day office operations of a fast-growing technology company.
This is no ordinary admin job:
Historically, it has been the entry point to the comp... 阅读全帖 |
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o******g
发帖数: 114 | 12 zhanmajia童鞋的感受基本属实，amazon的名声很好，但是比较好进，在里面呆两三年
正好去FLG。
Amazon的主要问题就是Retail的margin太低，确实开不出好的福利，所以大家容易
turnover，然后turnover又造成oncall的load特重。其实Facebook，Google的也有
oncall，不过由于人员稳定些，系统的bug修好了，所以load不是那么重，然后公司的
福利又好，大家就不complain，形成正循环。这是为啥Amazon的oncall complain特多
，而其他online company的oncall complain较少的原因。
另外提提amazon的技术，amazon的很多business logic的code确实质量不高，但是
amazon的整个platform和dev resource水平是相当相当相当的高（请原谅我用了3个相
当），amazon有这些东西：
1）Apollo deployment system --- 这个可以做到one click deployment 和
rollback，
2）Performa... 阅读全帖 |
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z****e
发帖数: 54598 | 13 it公司都是这样的
区别在于，某些公司三个月review一次，5％－10％的人不合格
而某些公司是半年review一次，10％以上的人不合格
其实turnover rate对于所有公司来说都差不多
netflix的政策很明了吧？看你不爽当天就走人
但是turnover rate跟m$一样，说明什么？
从统计上看，所有it公司都是一样的，只不过参数不同而已
给一个不合格呆着也没啥意思，赶紧找下家
赖着半年凑满一年风险更大，因为最后如果是被赶走的
那就是fired，有可能上黑名单，下家一听说你是被fired
那影响是很恶劣的，所以一旦考核不好，赶紧走人，自己走
，有 |
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m**********t
发帖数: 385 | 14 Organization Description:
Philips Research is the source of many advanced developments in Healthcare,
Lifestyle and Technology. Building on 90 years’experience in industrial
research and our world-leading patent position,we’re dedicated to
meaningful innovations.In the healthcare domain,we are enhancing imaging and
monitoring systems,as well as exploring innovative personal healthcare.In
lifestyle,we’re helping people see, hear,remember and share content,
anywhere and anytime.Our vision focuses... 阅读全帖 |
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w***s
发帖数: 114 | 15 还有那些官方的说法啦，google一下去幼儿园参观对老师该提的问题。就比如老师
turnover啊，教育程度啊，美国这地方，turnover普遍高的很，但如果有个低，要多关
注。学校附属的最好，如果你有这个福气。 |
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y********g
发帖数: 598 | 16 American Junk Food List
* Arby's Apple Turnover
* Arby's Cherry Turnover
* Arby's Cinnamon Twist
* A&W Papa Burger
* A&W Original Bacon Double Cheeseburger
* A&W Original Double Cheeseburger
* A&W Fries (Chili Cheese, Cheese, Chili, Kids Fries, Large Fries, etc.)
* A&W Crispy Chicken Sandwich
* Boston Market Chocolate Cake
* Boston Market Pastry Top Chicken Pot Pie
* Burger King Hash Browns
* Burger King French Fries
* Burger King Sausage, Egg,... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****h
发帖数: 3292 | 17 感谢博士后大牛，让我重新开读这个经典，请教一个问题
根据书上的一小节(如下)，是说明了现在投机者更没有耐心了，还是因为市场更有效率
了(也就是市场价格反映价值更准确了，若有偏差，纠正时间也大为缩短了)？
还是因为有了科技，电脑的出现,交易方式的改变？
Excerpt from
In 1973 when Graham last revised The Intelligent Investor, the annual
turnover rate on the NYSE was 20%, meaning that the typical shareholder held
a stock for 5 years before selling it. By 2002 the turnover rate had hit
105% - a holding period of only 11.4 months |
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d*****d
发帖数: 10658 | 18 哪里查来的？cnbc的网站上显示mcp的机构持有70％。
Top Institutional HoldersConcentration of Current % Held
Top 10 Institutions: Top 20 Institutions: Top 50 Institutions: All:
Low
Avg. Turnover Rating Name Shares Held Position Value Percentage of
Total Holdings
since 5/3/12 % Owned
of Shares
Outstanding Turnover
Rating
Resource Capital ... 13.8M $331,975,835 +16% 14.4% Low
Molibdenos y ... 12.5M $361,500,000 +15% 13.0% --
Morgan Stanley ... 8.7M $207,431,340 +10% 9.0% Low
Pegasus Capital ... 8.0M $269... 阅读全帖 |
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l****n
发帖数: 711 | 19 假设JCP能恢复到11年改革前的水平，从11年2月起连续4个季度report的EPS是1.09， 0
.28， 0.07和0.11，一年的EPS就是1.55
按现在牛市中零售店大约15倍的PE算，股票应该值23
这次增发前有220M股，增发后大约310M股，这样增发后股票应该值16.3
这是turnover完全成功且过程忽略不计的情况
实际上多出了2.2B的债务，短期内不会还，假设利息每年5%,就是每年110M，或者0.
355EPS，算上这个，这股票最多值 11
再加上最近一年烧的1B cash。。。大约相当于$3每股（能这样算不？），就算扣一半
吧，还剩9.5一股
现在turnover成不成还是个未知数。所以说我脚的目前股价还是过高。。。
我也亏废了，想了想，还是那个破增发闹的。这CEO和狗剩勾结，真是无语 |
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p******8
发帖数: 227 | 20 如果我没记错，亚马逊的利润为负2012年度。沃尔玛的turnover 大大低于90天！什么
概念？就是说库存基本不需要成本。这也就解释为啥沃尔玛能开上万家店。为啥其他实
体店不行？为啥亚马逊实体店扩张速度这么慢？原因就在这里。利润率低，turnover低
。外表好看，其实不然。等着吧，有一个大气球吹起来了。 |
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q********g
发帖数: 10694 | 21 又查了一下机构的持仓，68%GRPN被机构持有，这些机构的价格分两类，进的早的持有
价格在5-6，进的晚的价格在10-11。大部分是low turnover的，有些是high turnover
的。现在是8正好在这两部分机构的中间，上下都是2块钱，亏钱的要割肉，赚钱的要止
赢。
03 |
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o****r
发帖数: 132 | 22 另一篇文章。
Talk about a riddle wrapped inside an enigma. Oceanstone Fund (symbol OSFDX)
has delivered awesome gains in recent years, but scant information exists
about its close-lipped manager, James Wang, and his methods. And that
apparently is by design.
Wang declined to speak with us for this article. Before we tell you what we
do know about him, let's review those mind-boggling results. Over the past
five years through April 17, Oceanstone returned 39.9% annualized,
annihilating Standard & Poor'... 阅读全帖 |
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y***n
发帖数: 2318 | 23 "My position on this company and its stock has not changed. I would run to
the nearest exit. Walking is too slow."
"Since December, Tesla has lost two Vice Presidents for Autopilot."
"Having worked with engineers in the past they are indeed prone to wanting
projects they work on to be perfect versus "good enough" to be a viable
source of revenue. But when we are talking a product such as Autopilot that
can cost people their lives no amount of testing and development is enough
until the product i... 阅读全帖 |
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a*******g
发帖数: 3500 | 24 一年180米交易额
然后赚了1.8米一年
这turnover rate
按百分之10收益率算，本金是18米
一年turnover rate是1000%
百分之百short term capital gain tax |
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F***a
发帖数: 525 | 25 turnovers make big differece ...
we have 24 turnovers so far, the highest in NFL ...
yesterday we committed none and we won
hopefully we can keep the momentum going |
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 26 我几年前推荐正puff pastry. 超市冰冻柜有
也可用来做快速的apple turnover
我过去买来做apple turnover. 家里还有一盒几年旧的，得去扔了 |
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g****n
发帖数: 3313 | 27 以下职位，如果是名校，高分，申请把握会大增，经过内部推荐后，不需要HR
SCREENING, 直接面试。
年底机会不多，大家抓紧。
EMAIL 简历到：GPSFAN#GMAIL.COM
Office Coordinator
The Role:
Company Concierge, a full-time superstar responsible for helping to run the
day-to-day office operations of a fast-growing technology company.
This is no ordinary admin job:
Historically, it has been the entry point to the company for smart, dynamic
working students, recent grads, and people re-entering the workforce. Admin
team members have gone on to work in other parts of ... 阅读全帖 |
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g****n
发帖数: 3313 | 28 具体讨论或有问题：
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CCCN.CMAIN/
以下职位，如果是名校，高分，申请把握会大增，经过内部推荐后，不需要HR
SCREENING, 直接面试。
强调一下啊，要名校，英语要好，GPA 要好，这个我没办法，是公司的文化。
年底机会不多，大家抓紧。在美国之外的同学就先别折腾申请了。虽然公司支持H1B
EMAIL 简历到：GPSFAN#GMAIL.COM
Office Coordinator
The Role:
Company Concierge, a full-time superstar responsible for helping to run
the
day-to-day office operations of a fast-growing technology company.
This is no ordinary admin job:
Historically, it has been the entry point to the company for smart,
dynamic
working stu... 阅读全帖 |
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w**o
发帖数: 524 | 29 那叫turnover rate. 你怎么看的turnover rate不高？ |
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d*******1
发帖数: 146 | 30 参看http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/CivilSociety/2227.html
鼓吹别人之前，自己先要动起来。
我所在地： howard county, Maryland.
2012 county population： 299,430
White：62.3%
Black：18.1%
Asian：15.7%
News from arylandreporter.com
Massive turnover in the legislature is expected in the 2014 election, with
at least a third of the 188 Maryland General Assembly seats changing, and as
many as 50 members turning over in the House of Delegates alone.
Nowhere is the upheaval more dramatic than in Howard County, where two-
thirds o... 阅读全帖 |
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l******a
发帖数: 10 | 31 篮球/NBA术语
SA 圣安东尼奥马刺队[缩写]
NJ 新泽西网队
Total 总计
1st 第一节比赛
2nd 第二节比赛
3rd 第三节比赛
4th 第四节比赛
OT 加时赛
Box Score 个人技术统计
Hustle Score 球队技术统计
MIN 出场时间
FG 投篮
FT 罚球
3PT 三分球
OFF 进攻篮板
TOT 篮板总数
AST 助攻
PF 个人犯规
ST 抢断
TO 失误
PTS 总得分
Percentages 命中率
Blocks 盖帽
Statistics 技术统计
Steals 全队抢断总数
Blocks 全队盖帽总数
Turnovers 全队失误总数
Turnovers Points 利用对方失误得分
Fast Break Points 快攻得分 |
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s******g
发帖数: 422 | 32 对于那些个turnover，一开始还以为是湖人2天没事干，力气都用老婆肚皮上了；后来
感觉是骑士更想赢，肯跳，还跳的高，平时那些个传球不会被断成这样。尤其是老鱼，
ｋｂ，ｇａｓｏｌ在一场比赛里都出现这种turnover... |
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w***7
发帖数: 1637 | 33 上一场就没什么turnover。
我决得这种turnover 还是lin没经验，出现两人包夹的场面不知道怎么办，多经历几次
就会好些 |
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d*****s
发帖数: 5610 | 34 http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Aaron-Brooks-332/
Listed generously at 6-1.
However, he couldn’t compensate for his size around the rim. He got to the
rim with little resistance, but wasn’t finishing as consistently as Nate
Robinson or Jose Juan Barea. He doesn’t have touch like Barea or
explosiveness like Robinson, but falls somewhere between the two.
As a point guard, Brooks showed some inconsistency, interspersing his good
decisions with bad ones. His turnover numbers were somewhat mislea... 阅读全帖 |
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B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 35 我有预感Lin明天的turnover要创历史新高，当然也有可能比赛早早失去悬念就没那么
多turnover了。 |
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a****c
发帖数: 339 | 36 http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks
He said Jeremy Lin can play, and that he's the Knicks' point guard of the
future.
But Stephen A. Smith also said the conference-leading Heat "exposed" Lin
during his 1-for-11, eight-turnover performance on Thursday night.
Carmelo Anthony disagreed.
"'Exposed' is too strong a word," Anthony told Smith on ESPN's First Take. "
I think people over-analyze the situation. He's only been two weeks into
this situation. It happened overnight. He was thrown into the... 阅读全帖 |
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l***o
发帖数: 1111 | 37 By HOWARD BECK
The next inevitable phase of the Jeremy Lin story is under way, in which
reasonable doubts and manufactured controversy replace the initial burst of
elation. This is where the mythology fades and the fundamental work for the
Knicks begins.
This is the point when Lin must make the most critical adjustment: from
instant celebrity to enduring basketball star.
Since the Lin-fueled seven-game winning streak that saved the season, the
Knicks have lost four of seven games, while Lin has ... 阅读全帖 |
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l***o
发帖数: 1111 | 38 http://www.msg.com/blogs/alan-hahn/the-knicks-fix-where-has-the
文章开头是knicks输给bucks后melo回答记者的采访视频
The Knicks Fix: Where Has the Swagger Gone?
The clichés come easy after games like this. Some pro athletes have
mastered the art of feigning sagacity, but really what you never want to do
is look like you are an expert at losing.
So what Amar'e Stoudemire should be doing is looking exasperated. Carmelo
Anthony should be furious. Neither one of them have much experience in
losing before they came to N... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 39 The Uncertain Future of Linsanity
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By Jay Caspian Kang
Consciously or not, writing on the Internet is always, in part, about the
Internet. Every meme, news story, and event has its own momentum and it's
nearly impossible to commit anything to print without first taking into
account how, exactly, the topic at hand has been handled by the thousands of
bloggers who hit "publish" before you. And because bloggers are suc... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 40 Jeremy Lin's $25 million offer from Rockets should be no-brainer for rich
Knicks
By Marcus Thompson II m******[email protected]
Posted: 07/17/2012 11:36:55 AM PDT
July 17, 2012 6:38 PM GMTUpdated: 07/17/2012 11:36:55 AM PDT
The New York Knicks are crazy if they don't match the three-year, $25
million offer sheet Jeremy Lin has signed with the Houston Rockets.
I get that it's a pretty big number. I get that the poison pill third year -
- $14.8 million -- is going to b... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****a
发帖数: 453 | 41 But here's the stat that really was a wake up call
Lin TO
Last 9: 2.1
Prior 12: 4
Harden TO
Last 9: 5.1
Prior 12: 2.6
Lin has dramatically cut down on his turnovers while Harden's has increased.
Meanwhile Lin assists have dropped by 3 per game and Harden has stayed
about the same.
What this says is this: Harden is handling the ball a lot more, and isn't
necessarily getting his teammates involved. He is shooting more 3's and
turning the ball over more and scoring a lot less while playing more min... 阅读全帖 |
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m******1
发帖数: 86 | 42 If you watch enough Lakers' game, you will agree Nash is indeed not Nash any
more. Nash can no longer control ball well enough and have tons of turnover
while dribbling, which is a big no-no for starting point guard. What make
things worse is Nash's play making is based on his ball control. This is why
Nash now focus more on setting up rhythm and spot shooting while let Kobe
handle ball around paint area. This is definitely smart move for the team
and Nash himself.
Don't take me wrong, I'm not b... 阅读全帖 |
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h******b
发帖数: 6055 | 44 上场Parker出手很少，但组织进攻超好，助攻多turnover少。 马刺北斗大阵行云流水
，角色球员人品爆发。
这场Parker伤了，速度必然打折扣。 马刺角色球员必然会revert to mean。 老北京
第三场结束后卧薪尝胆，知耻而后勇。
预测热火胜，老北京出手二十五次以上，三十分以上。 Parker命中率四成，assist/
turnover低于2：1。 |
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d*****s
发帖数: 5610 | 45 看Calderon的评论
“Calderon's sparking assist/turnover numbers can also be somewhat deceiving
because they are a product of his low-risk style. He attempted just 80
shots at the rim all season last year and averages only two free throws per
36 minutes for his career. If he drove more often, he might commit more
turnovers,”
Calderon是低风险，回报低的PG，他也不create shots，本来是打SG的，但是教练都是
保守的，所有CEO都是保守的，宁肯给Calderon，也不会给Lin这种的。
Lin现在就有2种策略：
1.如果能降低TO到1.8-2，能控制球从后场到前场，不冲进内线了，助攻个4次场均，然
后传球，3分球命中率40%，就像Calderon那样，我打包票他明... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 692 | 46 从turnover的下降来看，lin还是高智商的。
林自身的条件成不了独孤求败，需要在团体中才能出彩，以前turnover多是缺少队友的
支持和信任。林连着打了很多场的专心传球不投篮。终于让黑白道的伙伴们明白了跟着
林是有好处。这不，队友专心接球了，帮忙阻挡了，助攻和投篮就上来了 |
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发帖数: 20415 | 47 来看看到底是谁睁眼说瞎话，你真是不被打不舒服，那场比赛的game log现在都能找到
，第四节后半段+加时得了快20分？第四节以最后六分钟为界好了，你看看你家LBJ都干
的啥：
Q401:27 LEBRON JAMES#23 F James Turnover : Lost Ball (3 TO) Steal:Parker (1
ST)
Q402:18 LEBRON JAMES#23 F James Running Bank shot: Made (24 PTS)
Q402:27 LEBRON JAMES#23 F James Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
Q403:05 LEBRON JAMES#23 F James Technical
Q403:13 LEBRON JAMES#23 F James Jump Shot: Missed
Q403:38 LEBRON JAMES#23 F James Turnover : Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal:Leonard (1
ST)
一共两分进帐
然后的加时：
1OT00:10.5 LEBR... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1621 | 48 来自主题: Basketball版 - 哈登犯规。 Why didn't Rockets fans show the complete list of the incorrect calls and
non-calls?
00:43.1 Foul: Shooting James Harden Shaun Livingston
[Observable in enhanced video] RHH shows that Harden (HOU) makes contact
with Livingston's (GSW) arm that affects his driving shot attempt.
Video
[Comment: before the play it's GSW 94-93 Hou. So Livingston should have had
2 free-throws and Rockets should have 5 team fouls, Harden's 4th. I don't
think it's a problem to assume that Livington would have made 2 fr... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 268 | 49 看了这场球的朋友麻烦出来说说，为什么追梦这么说？
他说最后那个失误根本不是事儿，这种失误很整场，但是关键不在最后那个失误，关键
在于整场比赛他打的非常差，整场比赛都输在他手里。
"I cost us the game," Green said. "The world will think I'm talking about
that last turnover but I'm not. That happens. I was awful the whole game. I
care about that turnover, but I cost us the game way before then." |
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发帖数: 961 | 50 他其实还好，克雷是打得真烂
[在 shiduo (shiduo) 的大作中提到：]
:看了这场球的朋友麻烦出来说说，为什么追梦这么说？
:他说最后那个失误根本不是事儿，这种失误很整场，但是关键不在最后那个失误，关
键在于整场比赛他打的非常差，整场比赛都输在他手里。
:"I cost us the game," Green said. "The world will think I'm
talking about
:that last turnover but I'm not. That happens. I was awful the whole
game. I care about that turnover, but I cost us the game way before then.&#
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