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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 2 一个保障人民基本的food shelter and healthcare的国家,就可以让人没有后顾之忧的
去探索自己的最大潜力,发挥了再来回报社会 |
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p********n
发帖数: 1538 | 3 也会让人没有后顾之忧的发挥人性最懒散的一面，将米虫生活进行到底／哦也 |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 4 of course on the top of mimimun it's reward-based, how many people want to
live on minimun living stardand while they have the ability to earn a better
life? |
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L*****r
发帖数: 832 | 5 finished my tax return kakaka loved your outfit today neh chic and comfy :) |
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L*****r
发帖数: 832 | 6 nod nod what an american dream lol... |
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l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 7 反对医改的人到底有几个知道这个医改是改什么的？有几个知道现在是什么制度？
其实我看都是情绪化发泄。 |
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p********n
发帖数: 1538 | 8 哦 我再摇摆中间。 对于取消那个pre exsiting的 还有最大额度的我很认可阿。 |
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p********n
发帖数: 1538 | 9 actually quite a lots:-)
better |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 10 天朝人命简直太勤奋了,一切向钱看,我pf得都不敢回去了 |
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n******h
发帖数: 2482 | 11 Yes. Those are good items, but they are just a few good items tucked in a
hundred bad items. The root cause of our health care problem is cost. How
can a bill increasing even more cost is a good bill? I know, people think
we can always print, until the day we can't. |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 12 basic healthcare should be a right, not a previlege, for everybody. |
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n***b
发帖数: 5914 | 13 that's communism, and it is not written in the US constitution. |
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p********n
发帖数: 1538 | 16 。。。。。。这个只是一个乌托邦。人性决定着共产主义不会实现：－）呵呵 |
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n***b
发帖数: 5914 | 17 right, the ultimate beneficiaries of this bill are the insurance companies
a
How
think |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 19 2000年前很多梦里才有的东西现在都实现了呢,never say never |
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d********0
发帖数: 5142 | 20 不是所有的人都乐意窝在家里的。
确实有那么一些人就是天生工作狂。 |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 21 这个至少50年内实现不了.
到时候科学进步了,一个人工作能养活一万人啥的,也许就真的实现了. |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 22 不要因为你的有生之年实现不了就不去作阿,还有子,孙,曾孙... |
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p********n
发帖数: 1538 | 24 嗯 从你的一向的讨论观点，你属于很理想主义的人：－）理想很美好 |
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p********n
发帖数: 1538 | 26 嗯 多点有理想主义的人好。我老人家属于悲观主义的 |
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n***b
发帖数: 5914 | 28 我老人家属于现实主义的, this bill will just expand the bureaucracy and draw
more blood from the middle class although it serves a good intention to
the public. |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 29 personally i owe you a sorry last time.
draw |
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n***b
发帖数: 5914 | 32 nobody stops you live in your dream |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 34 乌托邦之所以永远是乌托邦，就是因为会打算盘的聪明人太多了 |
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w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 35 那您说说， 石阶上有任何养老制度不是旁氏游戏的嘛？
我国古人都知道年轻人养老人天经地义
您就不能提高一点觉悟？
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l******l
发帖数: 2651 | 36 without check-and-balance, those 乌托邦 are actually devil without revealing
the other side of inconvenient truth. |
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l******l
发帖数: 2651 | 38 Fxxk the 觉悟.
Everyone try his/her best to take care his/herself, and family.
The rest, should be at will, not obligation. |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 39 当然是有很多人打着altrurism的大旗骗钱，这点要火眼金睛
revealing |
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w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 40 您这是和社会脱节的
您有本事就推翻世界任何一个政府， 单干， 实现您的理想
连天朝这样的资本主义原始积累国家，也在做养老计划
最后， 我祝愿您永远健康， 永远不用享受任何福利
good luck |
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l******l
发帖数: 2651 | 41 In medicine, it is feasible to sustain a terminal ill patient's life as long
as the technology allows.
However, by doing so, it wastes a lot of other social resources, which can
never be called fair.
It all comes down to check-and-balance.
At some certain point, someone has to be able to call it quit.
Why would I put all my savings to support a person whose life never make any
impact, who I don't know, I don't care to exchange that I live in a
miserable life at the same time? It does not make se |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 42 以后干脆立法，65岁退休了的生病不治了，反正对社会没有贡献了，好不好，法西斯？
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M*********r
发帖数: 130 | 43 不要问国家给了你什么, 先问问你为国家贡献了什么. (美国一名人名言) |
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 44 what can you do for your country when you are a kid? please tell me |
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l******l
发帖数: 2651 | 45 You earn your credit through your life.
If you use up your credit, then it should depend someone else' good will or
limited contribution of social/governmental benefit.
Definitely not without limit. |
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l******l
发帖数: 2651 | 46 You gets family credit. Your parents save for you. |
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e***z
发帖数: 7126 | 47 你老年纪也不小了，跟那个小屁孩子讲道理不是对牛弹琴么？他明显就是一小酱
我老都懒得搭理
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e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 48 I agree there should be a line due to limited resource, but this line will
be very very hard to difine. just like in 2012, who is eligible to get on
the board?
nillionares?
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M*********r
发帖数: 130 | 49 It should be a right only if government pays for it, or increases tax on
everyone equally. Otherwise, it is a previlege unfortunately. |
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b*******r
发帖数: 6655 | 50 天朝的福利，本来是最公平的，（现在和将来不知道）就是自存自用，国家保底，很低
的一个底。
这个改革，如果只包括pre-existing condition ban，我没有任何问题, 但是应该有
lifestyle discount。
no lifetime maximum我也能接受，其实应该case maximum
强迫买保险完全无法执行，how many uninsured/underinsured drivers on the road?
这个法案，和所有政府重大而空洞的法案一样，毫无细节和可操作性，无非就是一张
空白支票，可以用来支付最卑鄙最无耻的开支 |
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