l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 1 明白一点了。就是说如果拿到合同的话undrafted并不亏。但第7轮能被选中能拿到合同
的希望比undrafted大，所以能被draft还是被draft的好。对吧？
每年平均每个队大概有多少undrafted player能进53人大名单？第7轮的大概有多少百
分比的能进？ |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 3 这些队员在以后还有一些人能入选球队甚至成为主力，说不定比有些后几轮的队员还强。
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349363/article/undrafte
Now that the 2014 NFL Draft is in the books, teams are scrambling to sign
the best undrafted rookie free agents. Here is a list of players who have
signed or agreed to terms with teams thus far.
Editor's note: This page will be updated as transactions officially occur,
or are reported by news outlets.
Arizona Cardinals
Northern Arizona RB Zach Bauman; Illinois LB Jonathan Brown; Penn State LB
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 4 I will be happy if he reach John Starks level, which was also undrafted,
signed and cutted by golden states. |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 5 drafted late可以理解，居然undrafted, 还是出乎意料的 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 7 Undrafted表现好了，进53 men roster, 然后合同是可以谈判的吧？7th round多少是不
是都固定了？ |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 8 Giants' 2011 3rd, 4th, 6th, 6th, 6th, and 7th-round picks received bonus of
$575K, 438K, 200K, 330K (yes, this is strange), 79K, and 56K.
Each's annual salary was the league minimum of $375K, identical to that of
any undrafted rookie free agents who made the team.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 9 From twitter:
Andrew Brandt @adbrandt：
I once told an undrafted FA we would sign him for $1,000. He said he didn't
have that much but could get it. I said no, we pay it.
跟状元的千万大合同比，没被选上的真是苦呀。好像记得Kurt Warner电视里对这训练
球员手拿Gatorade喝的场景，半开玩笑的说:当年为了一瓶Gatorrade我都愿意去试训。 |
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 10 对新秀来说，第七轮是不是还不如undrafted?前者也没有保障的合同，反而被选中后不
能和其它队谈合同。 |
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H**p
发帖数: 2504 | 11 加上10个选秀，两个试训的，下周的新秀营有25个人了。根据以往的经验，下面这些人
里很可能有人能入选53人的正式名单。
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Aggressive
Here is the list of the players who have signed as undrafted free agents,
according to The Baltimore Sun:
TE Matt Furstenberg, Maryland
OT Jeff Braun, West Virginia
OT Rogers Gaines, Tennessee State
DL/LB Brandon Copeland, Penn
QB Trent Steelman, Army
RB Ray Holley, Louisiana Tech
DB Brynden Trawick, Troy
TE Murphy Halloway, Ole Miss
DE W... 阅读全帖 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 12 这事大家都不含糊 味精也签了18个
忘了你上次帖子里提没提了
如果两队同时看上一个undrafted 咋办？
先到先得还是啥？ |
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H**p
发帖数: 2504 | 13 是啊，所以前些天看到个帖子说不能想象一下子１０几个新秀，我当时就觉得纳闷，选
秀加undrafted，哪个队训练营里没有１０几个新秀才比较奇怪。 |
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k***r
发帖数: 13724 | 14 shame report里大提特提他已经是八年级生了，本来想先看看他同辈的qb们都混的咋样
，结果发现了这个，也够后知后觉了。
粗略看了一眼，32只队伍本赛季开赛时首发的qb里好像就他一个是undrafted rookie
free agent啊. |
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p***r
发帖数: 4606 | 18 Wynn Deshawn RB Florida (Tryout) Giants?
这人两年前就进NFL了啊,怎么成了今年undrafted了? |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 19 我想如果他知道自己undraft，他肯定会留下。现在的他估计是很懊恼。被那些draft
committee骗了。 |
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d********g
发帖数: 11948 | 20 dan sanzo是三真巴赫
dexter是Dexter Larimore
另外michigan叛徒boren也undraft |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 21 我个人觉得就能不能Make the team而言，第三、四轮以后的Draft和Undrafted Free
Agency没有多大区别。只不过Drafted的队员有一定的底薪而已。好像很多队的首发中
，都有没有被选秀选中的。 |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 22 这么多名将没被draft。
OFFENSE
QB Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin
The buzz: He was a two-year starter for the Badgers and guided them to 21
wins in those two seasons. He completed 68.1 percent of his passes as a
starter, with 32 TDs and 17 interceptions. The relatively high picks total,
along with a lack of arm strength, likely kept him from being drafted.
RB John Clay, Wisconsin
The buzz: Clay is a bruising back who ran for 3,413 yards and 41 TDs in
three seasons with the ground-bound Badgers. But his lack of ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1353 | 23 http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents
Last Updated: May 1, 2012 8:24am eastern
AFC East
New England Patriots (Patriots UDFA Reaction)
Jeremiah Warren, OL, South Florida
Markus Zusevics, OT, Iowa
Marcus Forston, DL, Miami
Brad Herman, TE, Iowa
Matt Roark, WR, Kentucky
Buffalo Bills (Bills UDFA Reaction)
Delano Howell, SAF, Stanford
Nick Sukay, SAF, Penn State
Shawn Powell, P, FSU
Ian Wild, SAF, Mercyhurst
Chris Douglas, RB, Missouri St
Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond
Chris Hill, ... 阅读全帖 |
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M****m
发帖数: 3243 | 24 不认识巴克利吗？去年projected第一qb，结果多打了一年没人要变undrafted
freeagent，在老鹰打第三qb，今天恰逢前面两个都受伤
整楼都没看明白 |
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n******r
发帖数: 4455 | 26 我虎的Anthony Johnson本来预计二三轮
Combine药检出了问题直接undrafted
还是有希望打出来的 |
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d********g
发帖数: 11948 | 27 这两没啥突出的地方 powell最多第六轮 marshall很可能undrafted，速度也不快 不知
道为啥今年跳出来 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 28 i felt jalin marshall is the same as dane sanzenbacher. same height same
speed. dane sanzenbacher did go undrafted but was eventually signed and had
somewhat of an NFL career - so i think jalin marshall should be drafted
since he can do returns and even as a backup of a backup quarterback.
wr |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 29 Jeremy Lin: 5 Reasons He Is the Point Guard of the Future for New York
Knicks
Jeremy Lin's spectacular play in the last two games is no fluke, and the
second-year man is the New York Knicks' long-term solution at point guard.
The former Harvard standout scored 25 points against the New Jersey Nets on
Saturday night, and then followed up his breakout performance with a 28-
point game in his first career start.
Lin has massive appeal because he is the first American-born NBA player of
Taiwanese/Ch... 阅读全帖 |
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m******c
发帖数: 2248 | 30 Warner舞跳的很欢阿，看样子是肉包子打狗了。
Hall快爆发小宇宙把。俺的Fitz就靠你了。
It has been four games for the Cardinals this season without Kurt Warner and
it’s pretty clear that the defending NFC West Champs could use their Hall-
Of-Fame quarterback back. I think everyone knew that a huge void was left
behind when Warner decided to trade in his cleats for dancing shoes, but
things got so bad, so quick that the Cardinals are going with an undrafted
free agent quarterback this weekend.
After Matt Leinart was released, the sta... 阅读全帖 |
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J***o
发帖数: 7166 | 31 Keep Luck and Wilson in the same team equipped with undrafted C undrafted G
undrafted T undrafted RB one decent WR and one decent TE, how abt this? |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 32 Tebow comparisons not fair to Jeremy Lin; he's much better story
Story Highlights
Lin came out of no where in league where players don't come out of no where
Linsanity has swept nation as he's been spactacular in winning his first
four starts。 More apt comparison is to Kurt Warner, but NFL has more hidden
gems than NBA
I suppose it was inevitable that some people would compare Jeremy Lin to Tim
Tebow. This is partly because every sports story these days must be
compared to Tebow, as well as ever... 阅读全帖 |
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e*g
发帖数: 4981 | 33 我觉得更多的是歧视undrafted
历史上好像打出来的undrafted大都是蓝领
更不用说lin还是被火箭裁过的undrafted |
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B*******e
发帖数: 1009 | 34
这事儿绝对是小鸡cocky and arrogant了
另外这场比赛前 鸡爷信心满满说 这周准备的不错 队员们状态很好 希望比赛打得好
这尼玛什么game play?! 不是arrogant是什么？！
tranding mankins之前估计对Josh Kline和Jordan Devey信心满满的 心想顶替mankins
足够了 跟上赛季那个小gronk -- zach sudfeld一模一样 常规赛一大 真刀真枪 全tmd
现行了。。。 OL不行 换来的Tim Wright TE完全都用不上 这就是太cheap了 机关算尽
反误了卿卿性命 好不容易DB draft无数个bust 终于醒悟了 原来最吃的开的OL DL两条
线又开始cheap了 mankins kelly就是如此 看看OL线 除了Kline Devey外 康纳利和温
德尔都是undrafted FA
DL线 Vellano, Chris Jones 不是undrafted 就是从别人waiver上捡来的 稍微连能打
的Siliga是既undrafted又waiver捡来的。。。
尼玛 对比一下Broncos的GM是怎... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 39399 | 35 post season records
Player Catches Yards TDs Draft position
Jermaine Kearse 4 164 2 Undrafted
Doug Baldwin 9 144 1 Undrafted
Luke Willson 6 79 1 5th round
Marshawn Lynch 4 32 0 1st round
Ricardo Lockette 3 31 0 Undrafted |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 36 好RB不需要一定要第一轮啊，看adrian foster, 根本undrafted agent. OL这样的，很
少undrafted变成pro bowler的. top RB里面，低轮次/undrafted的一大把 |
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L****n
发帖数: 173 | 37 i AM talking about NBA. and you are messing up unrelated terms.
renounce and undrafted are both for rookie selection, where "renounce" means
end college early; undrafted means not picked up by any team.
not sure what your "5" means, but it's not related to either waive or buyout.
the
settlement.
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g********n
发帖数: 4809 | 38 是的，虽然极个别的高考500分的，因为各种原因，比如父母双亡，要自己打工养活自
己，而且在一个烂校，无心学习，其实智力比700分的都高，或者有些500分的性格男，
牛逼到有些科目满分，有些科目白卷（比如大牛人老毛），其实能力比700分的高多了。
但是700分的总体而言比600分的智商高，600分的总体而言比500分的智商高，500分的
总体而言又比400分的强的多，这是没错的。个例只是inspiration，就像有undrafted
的大本当全明星，非常的感人和激励。
但是你要做个球队总经理，你敢给一个undrafted，从来没有打过NBA的球员多年
guaranteed contract吗？ |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 39 if downloads are all out, download for FREE here!
http://random.bandcamp.com/track/mega-rans-jeremy-lin-rap
lyrics:
From undrafted to talk of the league
From afterthought to all over TV,
I tell you hard work is the key, but uh
This is what can happen when you dream
I'm Jeremy Lin
6 foot 3, with a 4.2
Grade point average, not vertical
Overlooked by every single team,
But never once did he let it hamper his dream,
First in the gym, last one done
Proving Hard work pays off in the long run
killed em... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****u
发帖数: 648 | 40 Though Jeremy Lin went undrafted and was cut twice this season already, he'
ll actually be a restricted free agent for the Knicks this summer now that
they've decided to keep him past the guaranteed contract deadline.
From Howard Beck of the New York Times: "After going undrafted in 2010, Lin
signed a two-year deal with the Golden State Warriors. The second year
conveyed the early-Bird rights and the restricted free agent status. Those
rights would have disappeared had Lin become a free agent af... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 168 | 41 "He's now tied with Avery Johnson for the most games played by an undrafted
player since the NBA-ABA merger"
有史以来最牛比的undrafted player是谁？林达到Avery Johnson的程度应该问题不大吧 |
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e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 42 平均而言，学历高=智商高，就像虽然有undrafted球员成为全明星，有乐透球员是bust
，但是平均而言乐透签的球员的成就远远高于undrafted的球员。
130的智商可以保证不会40岁不到就破产，而且很多130多智商的拿的比70多万多多了，
Facebook一上世，造就了多少130以上智商的百万和千万富翁？ |
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发帖数: 4434 | 43 84年神迹闪现，但神居然是第三顺位pick的。第一位是大梦，虽然是很强，但整个生涯
只有神探花退役两年才有出头日。榜眼是个水货，生涯10.9-7.5-2.1。史上最彪悍大前
锋巴克利也被一个水货挤到第五顺位。另一个控卫之神John Stockton居然是16顺位
pick的，匪夷所思。
85年的状元是另外一个三大中锋Ewing，那个时代的人都偏爱中锋。诡异的是邮差Karl
Malone是13顺位pick的，这16名+13名，日后居然是历史上最著名的内外线组合，创造
出史上总得分第二名、总篮板第六名、总助攻第一名、总抢断第一名、总得分-篮板两
双次数第一名、总得分-助攻两双次数第一名的记录。能怎么评价爵士呢，天上掉馅饼？
86年的选秀最水了，第一轮pick里只有状元一人打过All Star. 两届ACC年度运动员的
榜眼Len Bias选秀完第二天就因为吸毒过量挂掉了，悲剧玩的真大。大虫罗德曼居然要
到第二轮才被pick。
87年状元是最后一个三大中锋上将先生。二哥皮蓬被3个水货挤到第五顺位。关键先生
Reggie Miller到11位。
88年太一般，没什么好谈的。
89年的状元和榜眼... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 44 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
wosmile (XYZ!!!) 于 (Tue Feb 14 15:05:46 2012, 美东) 提到:
林书豪和姚明的领袖气质:
我一直觉得，看林书豪的比赛，比看 ym 的比赛好看。
仔细想想，其实林的成绩比起一线球星级的 pg 并不会好到那里去。(应该说不如)
那为什麽那些球星得不到如林书豪这般的待遇?
(Larry King, Diane Sawyer 的专访要约，Linsanity 的绰号，球场爆满，
股票逆势上扬等等)
我想林书豪热，不单单是因为林书豪如灰姑娘传奇般的崛起过程，
也包含林的"表演"比 ym 的好看，感染力更强。
这里我指的表演，不仅限於球技或分数上，也包含了他在场上拼命三郎般的努力，
以及他的表情(得分後的拉弓动作，吐舌头等等)，动作等等。
很多评论都说林书豪＂带领＂球队，有＂领袖气质＂，我非常同意！
尼克当时在聮盟里的成绩是8 胜 15 败，毫无气势。
可是因为林书豪的加入，今天已经一堆人在讨论季後赛，还有人已经说到冠军去了。
为什麽会有这样大的改变 ?
那是因为林... 阅读全帖 |
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g***c
发帖数: 11523 | 45 高顺位选秀出来的就是牛逼
打得烂也能捞到大合同
小林最惨，undrafted
怎么努力都没啥用
真正非高顺位打出来的全明星太少了
我能想到的只有停车场？这还是被波波臭骂了几年，但持续培养才出来的
要是碰到其他教练，现在也就是瘦版肥顿的水平
undrafted打到全明星的目前还没有把
就看小林能破这个记录不
当然现在女王的小玲珑很牛逼，第60位选秀，大有希望，可惜女王太弱了 |
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a******n
发帖数: 4290 | 46 我队只能勉为其难，矮子里头拔将军了。
Peyton Hillis是肯定要选的，原价： undrafted; keeper 价格10刀
另外一个选项，正在犹豫中：
1. Danny Woodhead (NE - WR,RB)，他算WR或者RB，如此说来，我是不是肯定不能选他
了？ 如果我保证每场比赛都把他放在WR位置上呢？
2. Jermichael Finley,TE. 原价：15， keeper价搞成18的话，貌似不合算了。
3. Mike Thomas, WR, 原价： undrafted; keeper价：10刀。也不知道合算不合算。
头痛啊，请赐教，鞠躬。 |
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g********e
发帖数: 157 | 47 拍子的Sterling Moore 的故事也不差：
一个Rookie ，以undrafted free agent的身份进入Raider 的practise squad,两
个月后被裁，基本上无人问津。
过一段时间后，拍子的二线伤的伤，裁的裁，于是把他拣起来。客场对野马的常规
赛上，进入比赛名单，并得到出场机会，表现很好。
谁知拍子旋即把他裁掉,于是他又回到家中，没有其他球队把他捡起来。
常规赛最后两场比赛，又被拍子召回，并在最后一场常规赛中发挥出色，当选最后
一周的“Rookie of the week." 他是本年度中所有获得这一荣誉的Rookie 中，唯一一个以
undrafted身份进入NFL的。
季后赛的故事就不用说了，在和乌鸦的最后时刻，打掉了Evans手中的球。这个防
守如果慢了0.1秒，就是一个TD，拍子基本上会因此输掉这场比赛。这个Play 是NFL评
选的拍子本赛季10佳Play 中的No.1。
许多人，包括他自己，直到赛季后期，都很难想象的到：Sterling Moore 将有机
会征战超级碗吧。
此外，St... 阅读全帖 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 48 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
brmj (病人梦见) 于 (Sat Jul 7 16:45:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
必须declare. 没有declare的default to 2011赛季的2nd round and 6th round。如果
是retire/out of season的算你倒霉.... 所以务必重视。
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brmj (病人梦见) 于 (Sat Jul 7 17:42:35 2012, 美东) 提到:
暂定我的keepers:
marshawn lynch (2011 round 3)
reggie bush (2011 round 5)
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francexplosn (黑店) 于 (Sat Jul 7 19:41:40 2012, 美东) 提到:
哈哈哈，为了Lynch，你只好放弃Jordy Nelson了？
我的ke... 阅读全帖 |
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B*******e
发帖数: 1009 | 49 exactly ...
话说为啥都说Pats的OL好？
仔细看看 现在的OL主力一大半都是undrafted
去年的四大主力Matt Light，Logan Mankins，Brian Walters 和 Sebastian Vollmer
一个退役 一个伤了几乎一个赛季了 一个not report 一个只打了一半
去年的主力Center Dan Conlley都改打Guard了 然后现在又伤了
现在的主力Center Ryan Wendell也是个undrafted
唯一顶上来的是二年级生Nate Solder
剩下替补就不说了
不知道为啥都看都不看一个个说Pats的OL好？ |
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b*******n
发帖数: 85 | 50 圣徒队这次选秀的名单：
1轮 15 (15) Kenny Vaccaro FS 6-1 218 Texas
3轮 13 (75) Terron Armstead T 6-5 306 Arkansas-Pine Bluff
3轮 20 (82) Jonathan Jenkins DT 6-3 358 Georgia
5轮 11 (144) Kenny Stills WR 6-1 190 Oklahoma
6轮 15 (183) Rufus Johnson DE 6-6 268 Tarleton State
选秀前，体育分析记者认为圣徒队需要补的漏洞主要有：LT，OLB，Safety, CB, NT.
或者可以说进攻组中只需要LT位置补人，防守组基本上每个位置都需要补。这也难怪，
去年圣徒的进攻全联盟排第二，得分全联盟第三，传攻第一，跑攻倒数八。
防守全联盟倒数第一，总码数破了纪录，跑攻防守倒数第一，传攻防守倒数第二。
我看了去年圣徒的每场比赛，基本上可以说防守组每个位置都可以换人。
二，三月时的多份Mock Draft中，80%的人认为会选Dio... 阅读全帖 |
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