x***x
发帖数: 784 | 1 unclesam，请问一下，你说的“不能参加考试，除非能搞到律所的雇佣证明。”是从哪
里看到的？我在uspto的网上没有找到这样的说明，谢谢。 |
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a**v
发帖数: 406 | 2 That's a new uspto rule. Only PR and citizen can take patent bar exam.
Otherwise you have to be affiliated with a law firm.
Even you pass the bar exam, if you are no longer employed by a law firm (ex.
quit job and go to a full time law program), your license will be
terminated. |
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d********o
发帖数: 337 | 3
发信人: spinlake (Spinlake), 信区: Law
标 题: Re: 纽约市有什么好的Law School吗？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 4 12:19:21 2008)
People just don't like to use google.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/olia/oed/grb.pdf
Aliens residing in the United States may apply to take the registration
examination. To be admitted to the examination, an applicant must establish
that recognition is consistent with the capacity of employment authorized by
the Unites States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) (formerly U. |
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y********7
发帖数: 29 | 4 "A recognized Bachelor's degree or foreign equivalent will make you a
category A applicant for the patent bar. A few examples of what you will
find under category A are degrees in biology, computer science, electronics
technology, chemistry, pharmacology, physics, and numerous engineering
degrees.
A patent agent does not need a law degree. Both USPTO registered attorneys
and agents can prepare, file, and prosecute patent applications" |
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g******7
发帖数: 2 | 5 目前，我也有关于考试资格的疑问，恳请知情人给你确切的答案。
我在中国是注册专利代理人，现在日本某专利事务所工作，因为所内每年有上百件去美
国的专利申请，所以我的工作内容也有一些答复OA的工作。现在想考美国的patent bar
，并且看了general requirement bulletin for addmission to the Examination For
registration before uspto, and found this:
Any foreigner not a resident of US who shall file proof to the satisfaction
of the OED Director that he or she is registered and in good standing before
the patent office of the country in which he or she resides and practices,
and who is possessed of the qualifications |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 6 Not just any job, but a job that requires to practice before USPTO.
In other words, it should be a patent prosecution related job. |
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d********2
发帖数: 44 | 7 U.S. Constitution
35 U.S.C. sec. ***: US code, federal law by the congress;
37 C.F.R. sec. *.888: Code of Federal Regulations, rules published in the
Federal Register by executive agencies of the federal goverment;
M.P.E.P. sec. *.**(**): Manual of Patent Examing Procedure, just a manual by
USPTO, helpful but does not have force of the law;
It is like the structure of a pyramid; higher, more authoritive; lower, more
detail. |
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m****n
发帖数: 174 | 9 PLI Patent Bar Review Course, Latest Version (May 2008 Edition)
I am selling a complete PLI Patent Bar Review course that I purchased in May
2008 (I passed the exam so I do not need it anymore). Yes, this is the
most recent version available, which is currently tested by the United
States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO)! More specifically, this
Practicing Law Institute (PLI) course prepares you take the PTO exam based
on the 8th Edition, Revision 4. Everything is in good condition.
I pass |
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t**c
发帖数: 13 | 11 Qualifying documentation would show that the USCIS has authorized the
applicant to be employed or trained in the capacity of representing patent
applicants before the USPTO by preparing and prosecuting their patent
applications. Any USCIS approval pending at that time will result in the
applicant's application being denied admission to the examination.
trained不是可以么？我知道OPT身份的training的support letter是可行的。 |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 12 The Question is if your training is USCIS authorized?
The way you described your support letter sounds like it is a letter
provided by your firm. But of course, if you do have "qualifying
documentation showing that the USCIS has authorized the applicant to be
employed or trained in the capacity of representing patent applicants before
the USPTO by preparing and prosecuting their patent applications," it's
definitely ok. |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 13 employment authorization granted by USCIS + proof that your employment
requires you to practice before USPTO |
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b**********n
发帖数: 141 | 14 i think you can take the exam with H-1B but you need to show you are working
in this area from you employer and once you pass you only get limited
registration which means you can only practice with your current employer.
Better check the USPTO rules, like MPEP about this. Official documents are
always more trustworthy. |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 15 做agent不需要JD degree，只需要考一个USPTO的patent bar exam，拿到registration
No，你就是agent了。
agent本身也是一个career，你可以选择一辈子做agent，不一定要上law school。相比
下，agent生活会比较轻松，但是发展上比做attorney要受限一些。
有利有弊，最好按照自己的情况来衡量。 |
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z*********h
发帖数: 133 | 16 关于申请费用，我记得个人申请比coporate申请费用要低（USPTO charges less and I
don't need an attorney). 可能$2-3K就能搞定
但是我不是特别确定 呆会儿去查查 |
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j****i
发帖数: 496 | 18 If you are registered before SIPO and have some working experience, you
might be able to qualify for sitting in the patent bar. Go to the USPTO
website and check for yourself.
No, not without a law degree from the U.S. usually that's a J.D., but a
couple of states allow L.L.M. to sit
for the bar too (NY, CA)
Not at all.
There are requirements to satisfy before you can take the Patent bar. Your
China IP work experience is irrelevant. |
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q**q
发帖数: 5 | 19 俺是新人，把这个版的精华区看了一下，又往前翻了十好几页，学到好多东西，谢谢前
辈了。
在此问几个尚未得到解答的问题：
有关pat bar
1) 请问大约需要准备多少时间？（我普通人，不是牛，考试一般也还好）
2）我在uspto上面不知为何没有找到pat bar考试的入门介绍之类，有人能给我个link
让我看看，让我心里有个数么？
有关tech specialist
我的专业是人人劝退的。。。大家都知道了就不用说了。这年头破专业干点啥都不容易
，所以每条路都试试吧。
我的背景：Phd明年毕业，身份没有问题。学校整体排名top20，生物很强。可惜我烂人
一个，几年混下来，没有啥文章，倒是社会活动一大堆，口语好，写作不差，反正肯定
不是nerd。不过没有任何工作经历，在学校一个帮着工程系教授们commercialize他们
技术的center帮闲了几个月，也做点简单的market research，patent方面小有涉及，
但是几乎等于白痴。
请问：除了好好修改简历coverletter，writing sample，多networking，以及考个bar
以外，我还能做点什么增加自己的分 |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 21 读东西一定要仔细 ：）你的问题文章里就有答案
“而要有资格take patent bar就必须有science或者engineering的背景，对alien来说
当然还要满足身份条件。详细请查询USPTO OED。”
～～～～～～～～～～～ |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 22 读东西一定要仔细 ：）你的问题文章里就有答案
“而要有资格take patent bar就必须有science或者engineering的背景，对alien来说
当然还要满足身份条件。详细请查询USPTO OED。”
～～～～～～～～～～～ |
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p***e
发帖数: 472 | 23 What is the time requirement for completing the registration after passing
patbar exam?
Does it require additional proofs if the registration is submitted within 2
years?
Thanks. |
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l****f
发帖数: 168 | 25 据说uspto会衡量opt时间确定是否批准
不知道筒子们有没有考过
想在暑假利用三个月的opt考不知道可不可以啊 |
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r**********u
发帖数: 22 | 26 看这么多人想转行,也有点心动. 刚刚去USPTO查了一下参加PATENT BAR 考试须知.好象
是必须是公民才可以,是吗?
"Applicants who are not United States citizens and do not reside in the
U.S. are not eligible for registration except as permitted by 37 CFR § 11.6
(c)."
看来绿卡也不行? 我的理解有错么?
另外想请教前辈们都如何准备的,有推荐的参考书吗?
谢谢指点 |
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t*******n
发帖数: 66 | 27 Can I download MPEP from the USPTO website?? Thanks a lot. |
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r***l
发帖数: 298 | 29
Yes, you may apply directly for a patent agent position at a law firm with a
science background and a registration number.
To obtain the registration number, you must pass the patent bar.
To pass the patent bar, you must have GC or citizenship or be sponsored by
an employer in the business of patent prosecution.
Therefore, if you don't have sponsorship, you must have GC or citizenship to
take the patent bar in order to become a patent agent.
For complete information, you may refer to OED/USPTO |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 30 如果是这个情况，那你就报了试试，把能有的证明都附上，看USPTO怎么说了。 |
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r***l
发帖数: 298 | 31 I don't think the market for JD is good, even for now, even for IP.
There is rumor that even the USPTO may undergo hiring freeze this year.
If you are close to graduation, think about bankruptcy practice, perhaps. |
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f******s
发帖数: 72 | 32 自己在家可以用PLI 的homestudy package, 1-3months should be enough.
不知道485pending能否报名考试，打电话到USPTO问问。 |
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r********l
发帖数: 24 | 33 I don't think patent bar exam requires Green Card. I have a friend with F1
visa who passed the bar. I guess unless you want to apply USPTO examiner,
you need to be a US citizen. |
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r***l
发帖数: 298 | 34 you may also try USPTO.
however, there is rumor that they will announce hiring freeze later this
year, except for some shortage areas.
You may need to act quickly.
话,英语，都不错。想作patent方面的工作. 刚刚通过了patent bar 考试，可是没有相
关的工作经验， |
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C*****8
发帖数: 122 | 35 I don't know about USPTO's curren situation, but during the last recession (
'00-'02), they laid off a huge number of examiners. Their policy, as many
federal agencies, was last in first out. |
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r***l
发帖数: 298 | 36 Per my knowledge, during the downturn from 89-93, USPTO laid off people.
I was not aware that they laid off huge number of ppl from '00 to '02,
during which most IP law firms were largely spared.
( |
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z**i
发帖数: 91 | 37 We applied, but is rejected by USPTO. They currently do not have
position for biology. So my husband applied chemistry. However, they said
that my husband lacks some required classes.................................
.....sigh...
Also, my husband said that he wants to go to law school after I graduate and find a job. What do you think
about this?
thanks a lot |
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r********l
发帖数: 24 | 38 Just a quick question: USPTO only hire US citizens, right? For green card
holder, they won't even consider it, right? |
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s**d
发帖数: 142 | 39 那没什么戏，tech trans就是指着corporate law 吃饭的，现在唇亡齿寒了。你让他去
申请USPTO当专利审查员吧。不过他要不是公民，也没戏。 |
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p********i
发帖数: 13 | 40 I did some research on USPTO Examiner, but it's in DC area right? I'm just
worried about what if he got the offer( i'm just assuming he is super super
lucky) and we relocate down there, and he got laid again?! Well, I know
anything is possible... By then, I don't have job neither...scary. Sometimes
I feel so sad that practice music all these years, but I can not even make
enough money to support family...anyway, I will suggest him to apply. He is
citizen, since he was grew up in U.S since he was |
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C*****8
发帖数: 122 | 41 USPTO has satellite offices. I also know people who work remotely.
Relocation may not be required. But it doesn't hurt to check it out.
super
Sometimes
make
is |
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s******t
发帖数: 59 | 42 USPTO也hiring freeze到2012年了，如果是普通的patent examiner，即使以后可以在
家工作，也需要每周至少physically在单位出现一小时。 |
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p***e
发帖数: 472 | 43 刚搬了家，用USPTO网站上的Change of Address for Registered Attorneys and
Agents改了地址，会收到confirmation letter么？还有什么其他的表需要填么？谢谢
。 |
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n**b
发帖数: 74 | 44 请问申请USPTO的patent examiner需要是有绿卡才行吗？用OPT的F1可不可以？
written |
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s**u
发帖数: 137 | 45 有没有人知道实际的例子？看USPTO的文件，关于外国人有个要求是所在国的专利局对
美国的代理提供reciprocal privileges。那是不是就不行了呢？
(c)
Foreigners. Any foreigner not a resident of the United States who shall file
proof to the satisfaction of the OED Director that he or she is registered
and in good standing before the patent office of the country in which he or
she resides and practices, and who is possessed of the qualifications stated
in § 11.7, may be registered as a patent agent to practice before the
Office for the limited purpose of presen |
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X***P
发帖数: 3230 | 46 Difference on what? a better career prospect for working at a small US IP
firm? Really? If you are referring to something on your resume, working
experience at a small US IP firm is really more prestigious than that at a
top 10 Beijing firm? More valuable practicing experience by working at a
small US IP firm? Aren't they both dealing with USPTO? I really don't think
there is any big difference between these two in terms of work.
Work experience at a non-profit organization only matters when you |
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m**w
发帖数: 82 | 48 你如果没有绿卡，又没有H1B签证以及雇主证明你的工作需要practice before USPTO，
那你的申请基本上很难被批准。 |
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m**w
发帖数: 82 | 49 用CPT做summer intern的情况不太了解，听说有人这么做过，具体情况和结果不是太清
楚。
给教授做RA应该是不行。即使是H1B，也必须要在H1B申请时候的job description里面
明确写明工作职责需要practice before USPTO。
ASSOCIATE |
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c*******n
发帖数: 102 | 50 My petition letter is attached. I received approval for the exam after I
sent the letter. Good luck!
January 25, 2010
Mail Stop OED
Director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
P.O. Box 1450
Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
Response Re: USPTO ID # *****
Dear Director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office:
I really appreciate the time you took to review my application. Set forth
below is my response to your letter.
First, I currently work at Technology Transfer office at ***** University as
a stud |
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